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South Road Upgrade – Croydon Station Community Liaison Group (CLG) Meeting No. 3 Record

MEETING Croydon Station CLG (South Road Upgrade Project, Torrens Road to River Torrens)

DATE 2 October 2013

VENUE South Road Upgrade site office, 194 Torrens Road, Renown Park

IN ATTENDANCE Community members: Ivana Kotasek Alaisdair McLean Kim Sofo Geoff Fussell Jack Humphries (for Klaus Frolich) Meshelle Wheare Bridgett Minuzzo City of Charles Sturt: Mike Blythe (for Phil Hewitt ) Cr Craig Auricht

DPTI: Desmond Khoo Amanda MacGillivray Aspect Studios: Tim Conybeare Peter Phillips Kath Moore & Associates: Karen Collins

APOLOGIES Leigh Dalwood, Kath Moore, Klaus Frolich, Phil Hewitt,

PREVIOUS MEETING RECORD 11 September 2013

AGENDA 1. Welcome, introductions & apologies 2. Review of the meeting record actions of 11 September

- Copies of PowerPoint presentation to be sent to M Wheare, B Minuzzo and C Auricht - Members who have not provided contact details for wider publication by DPTI, please do so ASAP - An options paper on alternative designs for Croydon Station to be provided to CLG members - T Conybeare’s presentation to be uploaded on the project website by 20 September - Members to present their feedback on engagement with community members (time allocated further in the

agenda) - CLG members wants to use the project website to promote opportunities for the community to engage with them

will need to contact DPTI to discuss - Schedule of meeting dates up to January will be issued to the CLG members (see bottom of the agenda)

3. Feedback from CLG members (White board discussion) - What does good design and Croydon’s heritage mean to you? - What does the concept of a linear park mean to you? - What would be a good use of the open space underneath the rail bridge structure

4. Urban Design Principles


5. Other business - Community Open Day 26th October planning logistics i.e. times, promotion of the event, staffing, refreshments, how to collect feedback

6. Actions before the next meeting 7. Meeting Schedule

- Tuesday, 22 October - Saturday, 26 October – Community Open Day - Wednesday, 20 November - Wednesday, 11 December - Wednesday 29, January – Community Open Day ‘twilight’ event

8. Next meeting 9. Thank you and close

AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION ACTION / NAME

2 Meeting record 11 September 2013 accepted. Previous action items still outstanding:

- some members still have not provided contact details for wider publication by DPTI; members to be emailed a reminder

- an options paper on alternative designs for Croydon Station to be provided to CLG members is still being developed

- members to present their feedback on engagement with community members

A MacGillivray L Dalwood Refer Agenda Item 3

3 Feedback from CLG members on three core areas: - What does good design and Croydon’s heritage mean to you? - What does the concept of a linear park mean to you? - What would be a good use of the open space underneath the rail bridge structure?

K Sofo / I Kotasek - 50% of respondents supported an overpass, 32% did not, 18% were undecided - Design and Croydon heritage:

o enhance heritage (bricks and stone, work by local artists etc) o soften structures with vegetation o capture the history (e.g. migrant heritage, heritage pathway).

- Linear park: o green space.

- Open space: o theme of “Build on it” o keep it flexible o integrate open space with station (e.g. train viewing platforms from playground)


o pros and cons of providing public toilets discussed by group. - Refer Attachment A for presentation.

B Minuzzo - Design and Croydon heritage:

o Village character (e.g. pedestrian focused) o vertical elements should be structurally strong but visually light o colour, mosaics, greenery o maintenance constraints discussed by group.

- Linear park: o safe movement of pedestrians and cyclists.

- Open space: o theme of “Quirky, different & fun” o maintain “village” character (e.g. traffic calming) o keep it flexible o include green space.

- Refer Attachment B for notes. A McLean

- Design and Croydon heritage: o low impact (visually) o respect the past o make it feel safe.

- Linear park: o open and green.

- Open space: o access for all (incl. cars, pedestrians and cyclists) o more BBQ facilities o sporting facilities (e.g. bocce).

J Humphries (nb not community feedback but personal thoughts) - Design and Croydon heritage

o avoid solid structures lacking in aesthetics (e.g. Glenelg tram overpass) o recognising elements of the current local community (e.g. Islamic College, local identities) through

urban design and public art o recognising Indigenous Australians – the “first people”.

- Linear park: o encourage fitness activities (for adults, particularly the elderly).

- Open space: o encourage community interaction (e.g. community gardens / veggie swap meets).

B Minuzzo to provide DPTI with her notes


G Fussell - Design and Croydon heritage:

o residents currently directly adjacent to the rail corridor value the “quietness” of their street (in regards to traffic), and the screen of trees creates a strong sense of neighbourly community

o recognition of Richard Day and his family (after whom many of the local streets through Croydon are named) nb two small cottages for the underprivileged commissioned by Richard Day are to be demolished as part of this project

o maintain or replace trees adjacent to rail corridor, subject to constraints imposed by future electrification of the rail line.

- Open space: o limit provision of car parking to the western end of the rail overpass o Removing the level crossing at Queen Street is a good thing, but would like to see something else

to help reduce vehicle speeds through the area. M Wheare

- Design and Croydon heritage: o heritage means primarily the people and the energy of those living here o Croydon has never been mainstream (i.e. “quirky”) o the suburb is always open to change - industrial, then family and now migrants; a “place to start

your life” o a sense of creativity and entrepreneur-ship amongst business owners.

- Linear park: o “linear” park is not a term necessarily understood by people.

- Open space: o plan for “quick wins”, with pockets of different areas to attract various groups (e.g. residents,

business, schools, sporting clubs) o these groups could potentially take ownership of these areas and be responsible for maintenance o use of technology for social interaction (e.g. scrolling twitter feed) o flexible open plaza (e.g. open-air art gallery, resting places, pop-up opportunities for complementary

businesses (e.g. art classes, ice creamery) o nature attracting features (e.g. gardens, bird baths).

C Auricht - Croydon has minimal green space, so preference for more community-orientated land uses, as opposed to

commercial - need to ensure community "owns" the space; it is for the people - opportunities to incorporate pop-up markets etc within new green spaces - pop-ups would only require a permit from Council.

B Minuzzo to provide T Conybeare a paper about Richard Day DPTI to note


Final comments: - How do existing businesses see themselves linking in with the station and under-croft development, if at all?- Overarching themes include: heritage, greenery, diversity, innovation and energy - Potential for an interactive display to capture the heritage of the area.

For consideration

4 Urban Design Principles: T Conybeare presented the draft Guiding Principles relating to the macro-environment, the structure, and the open space and streets. Refer Attachment C. Feedback from CLG members.

- positive - needs to include a statement about sustainable design (i.e. future maintenance, responsibilities)

T Conybeare to further refine the Guiding Principles for presentation at Community Open Day (refer Agenda Item 5).

- Workshops – make sure they are focussed on not just talking about it, but getting the people in the area involved in creating the art etc. Invite them along whether they use the space or not e.g. Islamic school doesn't currently use the space, but invite them to be involved and ask what they would like to see included.

Tim's team will work on analysis and further refine the information, to present it at the next meeting in preparation for open day.

T Conybeare to provide DPTI with presentation T Conybeare

5 Other Business: Community Open Day (26 October 2013)

- A draft of the Open Day invitation flyer was tabled for discussion (refer Attachment D). - It is anticipated that the flyer will be distributed via letter drop to properties in the vicinity of the park, and via

CLG members. - Amendments to the invitation flyer include:

o Modify title to “Croydon Station Upgrade” o change to a three hour session, from 10.30am-1.30pm o inclusion of a graphic (e.g. photo of the park with station in the background)

- Advertising for the event (in addition to community letter drop) may include: o signage at the park and rail station o inclusion in school newsletters

- Resources to be developed include: o information flyer o panel boards outlining the guiding principles o panel boards displaying precedent images and their relationship to the guiding principles; this may

include provision of coloured sticker ‘dots’ so community can highlight which ones they like / not like

A MacGillivray coordinating T Conybeare to present at the next meeting


o blank plans of the open space area, so community can “build their vision” for the site o general feedback forms (to cover more general South Road Upgrade concerns) o wet weather plan (e.g. marquee)

- CLG members to actively assist on the day to help encourage community involvement and to help capture community feedback.

New neighbour to South Road concern re: asset safety G Fussell raised a community concern regarding safety of large assets (e.g. caravan and boat) for new neighbours to South Road Precinct website M Wheare raised possibility of a “Queen Street Precinct website” for advertising and promotion of events

- would require someone to take ownership for development and promotion - C Auricht commented that traders could create their own organisation and coordinate between themselves.

Public enquiries to CLG members If a CLG member gets a question from the public that they cannot answer, forward it to Amanda MacGillivray and she will advise of a response.

To be referred to South Road Upgrade CLG All to note

6 Actions before the next meeting: Not discussed. 7 Meeting Schedule:

- Tuesday, 22 October - Saturday, 26 October – Community Open Day - Wednesday, 20 November - Wednesday, 11 December - Wednesday 29, January – Community Open Day ‘twilight’ event

9 Meeting closed at 8.10pm NEXT MEETING: Tuesday 22 October at 6pm – at South Road Upgrade site office.

CROYDON STATION CLG NO 3 – 2 OCTOBER 2013 ATTACHMENT A – PRESENTATION (K SOFO AND I KOTASEK)

Community Feedback (K Sofo & I Kotasek)

11/10/2013

1

Community Survey

Queen Street and Railway StationQueen Street and Railway Station and Facebook

28 responses received+ 3 comments on Facebook

• Visitor 5

• Local 19

• Business 3

• Other 1

11/10/2013

2

Q. 1 Do you support the construction of a Croydon Station Overpass?

• Yes 14

• No 9

• Unsure 5

Q 2What material should the Overpass be made of? Stone Steel Bricks Concrete Glass Other• Natural materialsNatural materials

• Mix of all but architecturally amazing design that integrates with the heritage feel

• Steel, bricks, concrete, stone, glass go well with Croydon area

• Incorporate garden

• Key themes: Bricks, garden and good design

11/10/2013

3

Q3 What design would you like to see for the Overpass i.e. features, ideas, functions, style• Heritage reflected design

• Lift not too close to the residential area

• Sculpture

• Accessible to all (including wheelchair)

• Incorporate local art, including street art, mosaics, signs, hanging gardens and water wise plants

• Art deco design with heritage feel and invisible technology

• Must fit into the cultural heritage vibe

• No modern steel structureNo modern steel structure

• No generic design

• Green walls and mosaics

• Growing climbing vines amongst the bricks

• Street are and graffiti and murals• Street are and graffiti and murals

• Industrial quirky design

• Modern design with steel

11/10/2013

4

• Contemporary, classic and dateless

• “I love my birthplace of Adelaide, but don’t make it too Adelaide”

• A healthy blend of materials using 21st and 20thA healthy blend of materials using 21 and 20century design to balance the suburbs and their heritage and contemporary 2013 design

• Ensure the structure is not overpowering and oppressive. Provides privacy for local residents

ll h l h h l h• Ideally it should echo the prevailing architecture of the district

• Noise suppression

• Have the pillars reflect the buildings of the area. Feature stone façade with brick corners

• Heritage style in keeping with the area

• Respect surroundings

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Q4 What ideas do you have for the Undercroft – the space beneath the Overpass?• Open space, greenery and balanced with the

t tnew structure

• Keep the playground and build on it and the existing feel of the community and businesses

• Public toilets

• Week end markets, farmers exchanges, craft , g ,markets

• Viewing platform for trains from playground with ropes, slides, climbing structure

• More greenery, shade cloth, spaces for young adults

• Open space, murals, reduced speed to 25 around playground and children crossing

• Open space and well lit

• Tennis courts, mosaics, smart wall garden

• No generic design

• Greenery, trees, plants, flowers, vines around pillarspillars

• Public are design incorporated with the business precinct

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• Sails, more picnic area, more tables, natural open space

• Soccer space, bike paths

B tt b k tb ll t d t• Better basketball courts and nets

• Slides and obstacle course, spider climbs

• Dog friendly and separated from children area

• Monkey bars, tennis courts, netball courts, more shade sport areamore shade, sport area

• Invest dollars into good design and architect

• Secure bike parking and bike lockers

• Multipurpose area

• Parking space

• Extension of the parkExtension of the park

• Removal of crossing infrastructure at Queen Street/Elizabeth Street to remove the hump

• Increase the size of the park and playground

• Large grass space

T bl / d b d d i i• Table/ground board game area done in mosaics

• Collect a brick from each demolished house and feature in underpass

11/10/2013

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• Photos of demolished houses embedded in pillars

• Heritage pathway using bricks from d li h d h i h b ddemolished houses with street number and owners name. Like immigration museum

Facebook feedback

• What does good design and Croydon’s h it t ?heritage mean to you?

• What does the concept of a linear park mean to you?

• What would be a good use of the open space underneath the rail bridge structure?underneath the rail bridge structure?

11/10/2013

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• I see Croydon's heritage as old houses, stone fronted bungalows. With a strong migrant heritage, particularly Greek and Italian.

• I think there should be different sections. Some for car parking and also expanding the existingfor car parking and also expanding the existing playground. Also like to see areas for ball games and quiet seating

• I consider a linear park to be a green space running through a suburb

• When I think of Croydon's heritage I think of the old stone buildings mixed with modern art andold stone buildings, mixed with modern art and cafes. Id like to see the upgrade incorporate that and keep the old mixed with new feel

Any other general comments?

• Beware of cheap and nasty pop ups. Retail has to be complimentary to the existinghas to be complimentary to the existing businesses

• Awareness of fragility of existing businesses i.emajor disruption could be catastrophic for some businesses

P th b i th t th• Preserve the businesses that are there

• Concerns about Graffiti

• Beware of malfunctioning lifts

11/10/2013

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Summary

A Croydon Train Station that is built to reflect and enhance the local heritage using bricks and stone in its construction and incorporating a strong focus on vegetation to soften the impact of the new structure. Building on the existing open space and playground aspect around the Station providing an open flexible green space, using water wise native low maintenance vegetation with a range of playing fields both active and passive to be enjoyed by all the community. The structure p j y y yand the green space should be fully integrated with the wider residential community, the existing business precinct and be welcoming to and enjoyed by all those who come to this area.

CROYDON STATION CLG NO 3 – 2 OCTOBER 2013 ATTACHMENT B – NOTES (B MINUZZO)

Community Feedback (B Minuzzo)

Community consultation, Elizabeth Street Caf6 strip, September 2013.

Liaison Group member: Bridgette Minuzzo

lssues/Options

ls i t real ly necessaryto do such a large scale restructure of the road?

Suggestion to look at the options: Widen South Road, extra lane both ways to accommodate traff ic,

relocate power underground, remove al l Stobie poles and have a str ip in the middle of the road to

turn r ight from.

Suggestions: leave level crossing as i t is. Put al l of the roador the rai lway under South Road at this

point .

Make vert ical elements structural ly strong but visual ly l ight and aesthetical ly pleasing.

Colour, mosaics or grow vines up the pylons. lnclude a budget for upkeep of any plantings.

Village character of main street-

Croydon and part icularly El izabeth and Queen Streets have a pedestr ian focus.

The train boom gates act as a car traff ic calming mechanism, making cars stop and slow down.

lf there must be an overpass:

Safe walking and cycl ing is paramount, retaining the vi l lage nature of the area.

Dual use roadway, slow speed of cars.

Park/open space

Flexibi l i ty best for publ ic open space areas

Plantings and a green space, shade trees, vines, hanging garden

Something fun and excit ing activi t ies l ike a giant double sl ide/sl ippery dip coming down from the

platform, so you can race someone or get a thri l l after a day in the city. Also a f ireman's pole,

c l imbing wal l , g iant swings suspended.

European example of swings in a bus stop instead of seats, making commuting fun.

A handball court, that can be used for bal l games or general bike/ scooter r iding/rol ler skating or

games.

Bungy jumping, f lying fox, trampoline ( in ground) sea saw or other spinning movement play

equipment , ver t ica l c l imbing rope net or monkey bar wal ls .

Area f lexible so there is room for venders or pop up market. Some power pointsand l ights.

CROYDON STATION CLG NO 3 – 2 OCTOBER 2013 ATTACHMENT C – DRAFT GUIDING PRINCIPLES PRESENTATION (T CONYBEARE)

draft Guiding Principles

ASPECT Studios Pty Ltd ABN 11 120 219 561

Croydon OverpassGuiding Principles

www.aspect.net.au

Croydon Overpass Guiding Principles

• An integrated design approach - achieving functionality, whilst embodying local character and striving for innovation

• A whole of community contribution to and shared responsibility for Croydon’s future

• A place that supports the unique diversity and vibrancy of the Queen Street precinct

• A safe and accessible place that offers choice of sustainable mobility and contributes to the health and well-being of the community

• A place that improves biodiversity, reduces our ecological footprint and provides an opportunity for people to connect with nature

Macro

www.aspect.net.au


• Form and scale should be complementary to the quiet residential character of the neighbourhood in which it is located

• Choose materials that acknowledge that most views of the bridge will be from up close

• Acknowledge heritage character whilst incorporating new materials and forms

• Bridge height and alignment must consider shadowing of open space of adjacent residences

• Station (and station access) design should have a strong connection to the ground/Queen Street to maintain the important intensity of movement and activity at this location

• Pedestrian and bike link (Greenway) will have logical and practical connections for users

• Incorporate ‘green infrastructure’ and integrated public art

Structure

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• Build upon the vibrancy and diversity of the Queen Street precinct and Croydon community as a whole

• Provide a mix of active spaces (eg. Youth space, family recreation, learn to ride) with unstructured passive spaces (eg. Quiet contemplation, gardens, beaches)

• Ensure all space is multi-use, and is designed for flexibility and adaptation

• Acknowledge the potential for the space to be a key attractor, bringing people into the community

• Incorporate space for community events/pop up cafes/markets

• Provide an integrated street and park environment that gives priority to pedestrian and bike movement

• Design for activation, improved safety and to reduce potential for undesirable activities

• Improve biodiversity through incorporation of extensive plantings with integrated stormwater management

Open Space & Streets

CROYDON STATION CLG NO 3 – 2 OCTOBER 2013 ATTACHMENT D – DRAFT TEXT FOR COMMUNITY OPEN DAY (26 OCTOBER) INFORMATION FLYER Torrens to Torrens Croydon Station Upgrade The Croydon Station Community Liaison Group invites you to come and see our ideas and share your thoughts to help define the future vision for the elevated rail line and the new Croydon Station and surrounds. We’ll be in the Croydon Playground Reserve, Day Terrace, Croydon between 10.30 am and 1.30 pm on Saturday 26 October. We look forward to seeing you then. For further information contact a member of the Community Liaison Group (see the DPTI website: www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/south_road_upgrade/torrens_to_torrens) for details or call the project line on 1300 794 899.

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