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SHS REVIEW NEWSLETTER | Issue 1 1
SHS Review
Newsletter
5 October 2015
IN THIS ISSUE…
Writers @ SHSU by Angela Shackelford
Interview with Dr. Chen Ching-In Chen is the author of The Heart's Traffic (Arktoi/Red Hen Press, 2009) and a genderqueer and multi-genre writer. Born of
Chinese immigrants, they are a Kundiman, Lambda and Callaloo Fellow and a member of
the Macondo and Voices of Our Nations Arts Foundations writing communities. Dr. Chen is teaching their first semester at Sam Houston
State University.
What tends to be the subject of your
writing? Does it change often?
I tend to write about the intersections of
communal history, memory and identity.
For instance, as a Chinese American poet
who really had to dig hard to learn about
the history of Asians in the United
States, much of my writing in that vein
circles around that process of
uncovering stories and histories which
aren't readily available.
I've always written about these subjects,
but the more I've written about them,
the deeper I've been able to go in
exploring what I might think or want to
say about them.
I've heard other poets say that writing
your first book is like shedding your first
layer of skin – it's easier to come to what
you're writing about intuitively. In the
next project, however, you may still be
circling around similar obsessions, but
trying to approach it from a different
vantage point or perspective. I'd say that
my writing changes in that way – I may
be writing about a similar subject or
obsession, but I'm trying to place myself
in a different position, to see the
questions I'm asking from other
perspectives, to learn something new
from my writing. The way that I do this is
often to write against my own familiar
tendencies. I think about what strategies
I'm currently choosing in my writing and
perhaps too comfortable with (for
instance, relying on breaking the line
against grammar) and what I might be
avoiding and assign myself a writing
prompt which forces me to try what I'm
avoiding and avoid what I'm relying on.
2. What sparks your creativity and
inspires you to write? (Can be people,
places, or events)
When I was a younger spoken word
poet, I wrote whenever I felt like it, but
mostly when I was processing some
intense emotion. I often went months
without writing – and for a stretch of
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three years, when I was the Director of
Programs at a community-based non-
profit in Boston, I wrote once a year only
when I went on a writing retreat. I found
that the energy it took to run
community programs and create
programming like film festivals or
community discussions or work with
young people around a community
issue, took similar energy to writing and
I had nothing left at the end of the day
to give to a poem. In that time period, I
also felt stuffed with words and
emotions which I couldn't release – and
as I got more serious about my writing
as a practice, I realized that it was a form
of meditation for me, a way of making
sense of the world and how I belonged in
it. There's a moment which happens
when I really get into the writing flow,
when time seems to suspend and I am in
the process of just creating. I realized
that this process was a way of sitting
down with myself, of cultivating my
inner landscape – and it was as
necessary as eating breakfast or having
coffee, and I felt not quite right when I
wasn't in that practice. I also realized
that it is a practice – and if I wanted to be
serious about it, I had to be in
conversation with other poets and
artists by reading and experiencing their
work and responding to it. Now, that's
often how I get a spark if I'm stuck in my
practice – I will pick up a random book
and pick any line and respond to it.
3. Why do you choose poetry in order
to express yourself artistically? Do you
dabble in other creative areas?
If I look back on my past undergraduate
writer self (I graduated from Tufts
University in 1999), I was more
concerned with telling stories I hadn't
heard growing up and wanted to be in
the world. I actually hated poetry
because I didn't quite understand it (in
the way that I had been taught to read it
in high school). After I graduated from
college, I went to work for a few years at
a community non-profit organization in
San Francisco's Chinatown and
Visitacion Valley and I commuted a lot –
from where I lived in Oakland to San
Francisco and on the bus from
Chinatown to VV – and had short bursts
of time to write, but not the longer
attention span I felt necessary to write
prose.
I also went to community events and
started going to spoken word shows
with artists such as I Was Born with Two
Tongues, Eighth Wonder and Youth
Speaks, and marveled at how much
these performance poets could move
their audiences with such a short
amount of time, typically less than three
minutes. At the non-profit I worked at,
those who did legislative advocacy work
wrote pages and pages of background
information and press releases, but may
not have moved anyone to do anything.
At the time, I thought that performance
poetry was an inspiring way to have your
voice and ideas heard.
I slowly learned how poetry incorporates
many of the other art forms such as
storytelling, movement, music and
visual art. It was matter of other poets
showing me the landscape of what was
possible in contemporary poetry and the
roots of that work in the past as well.
Poetry has very rich traditions to pull
from – and I'm constantly learning more
about these traditions.
I'm very interested in blurry writing,
meaning writing which crosses genres. I
completed my Master of Fine Arts at the
University of California at Riverside
which required all of us to take classes
cross-genre. It was also a very special
program because half of the workshops
were in what you might typically find in
creative writing programs (fiction, non-
fiction, poetry), but half of the
workshops were focused around writing
for the Performing Arts (playwriting and
screenwriting). I actually took at least
one workshop in every genre the
program offered because I wanted to
see what strategies other genres could
bring to my primary genre, poetry.
Because of my performance
background, I had noticed how much
cross-over there was between poetry
and playwriting. I was able to explore it
at UCR because UCR had a special class
where plays written by MFA writers were
staged by undergraduate directors and
performed by undergraduate actors. I
was able to stage one of my poems from
my first book, The Heart's Traffic: a novel
in poems, as well as a collaborative play I
wrote with another writer. The staging,
especially seeing the visions the
directors had of my work and hearing
how the actors performed my words,
helped me re-vise that work.
4. Why did you choose to become a
creative writing professor?
I'm happy to be at Sam Houston, doing
one of the few jobs where I get to do
what I love – talk and think about writing
and poetry! For me, teaching is always a
conversation – and I learn from the
exchange in the classroom, which keeps
me fresh in the field of creative writing
and literature.
5. In your formative years, did you
picture yourself becoming a poet?
I was interested in being a writer from
the time I was young, but I never
thought I would be a poet. When I was
an undergraduate student, I was an
English major, but I also double-majored
in International Relations and thought I
would go abroad to do international
development work. But right after I
graduated from college, I did a year in
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AmeriCorps, through the National
Conservation Corps. I was placed in
Denver, Colorado and we were sent in
teams around the Midwest to complete
short-term projects. I was a first-grade
reading tutor in inner-city Detroit,
worked on constructing trails in the
Rockies in Colorado, worked at a school
for at-risk high-school girls near Denver,
maintained trails in Indiana (near John
Cougar Mellencamp's house), among
other things. Through this process, I
realized I most enjoyed working with
other people and that there was a lot of
work to improve communities within the
United States which I could be part of.
So I stayed in the United States and then
fell in love with poetry while doing that
community work.
6. What advice would you give to
aspiring writers?
This is pretty common advice – but it's important to read widely, especially
work you would not normally be drawn to or choose because it expands your sense of what's possible in your own
writing. In the early days of writing, it was easier to put myself in a class and get a reading list from the instructor. As I've developed my practice, I have a
sense now of how to read more widely
on my own and how to teach myself how to analyze a poem and how it's working.
Also, I would recommend being open to trying a wide variety of writing
strategies – so that you can develop your own internal editor and get to know who you are as a writer.
For a sample of Dr. Chen’s writing, visit:
http://thediagram.com/10_2/chen.html
5,000 Translations
last call at the money-saving bar story about a darter
in the Vegas night club so green tired I bit the Berlin beer Two lies
already see violet from night a martyr
sable and curls silver A goldeye mother did not die
Three fictions fifteen others shot in dahlia heat Jimmy Carter
to preside against the murderous time True I claimed the ones who cried
Who hit lonely lightning yellow stem fire pretending smarter
to unclaim Who easy to hold the tent large for public fry
When I see the fruits of this page please not not that abandoned monster
because as soon as they see others grow they count the clock chime clock ….
from Milwaukee I asked the wasted question does this tent really hold my
heat Who can write this poem and counting which of my skin absorb this father
and my crime