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THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
HONORABLE JANIS L. SAMMARTINO
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE PRESIDING
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, )
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PLAINTIFF, )
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VS. ) NO. 12-CR-0494-JLS
) 11-CR-05297-JLSSEAN MICHAEL PARK, )
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DEFENDANT. )
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ARRAIGNMENT
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REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
FEBRUARY 10, 2012
SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA
GAYLE WAKEFIELD, RPR, CRR
OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
UNITED STATES COURTHOUSE
940 FRONT STREET, ROOM 3132
SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 92101-8900
PH: 619-239-0652
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APPEARANCES:
FOR THE PLAINTIFF: NEAMA RAHMANI
ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY
FEDERAL OFFICE BUILDING
880 FRONT STREET, ROOM 6293
SAN DIEGO, CA 92101-8893
FOR THE DEFENDANT: SEAN MICHAEL PARK
PRO SE
ALSO PRESENT: KNUT JOHNSON
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FEBRUARY 10, 2012
THE CLERK: NUMBER 16 ON THE CALENDAR, 11-CR-5297,
UNITED STATES VS. SEAN MICHAEL PARK, FOR AN ARRAIGNMENT.
MR. JOHNSON: GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR, KNUT JOHNSON.
YOUR HONOR, I FILED A MOTION TO BE RELIEVED AS COUNSEL
ON THIS CASE. MR. PARK HAS VOICED A DESIRE TO GO IN PRO PER IN
THIS CASE.
THE COURT: NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND WE WILL GET TO
THAT.
YOU ARE?
THE DEFENDANT: SEAN PARK.
THE COURT: OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PARK.
AND APPEARING FOR THE GOVERNMENT?
MR. RAHMANI: NEAMA RAHMANI FOR THE UNITED STATES, YOUR
HONOR.
THE COURT: OKAY. VERY WELL. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO,
WHILE YOU'RE STILL PART OF THIS CASE --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT, YOUR HONOR. I ACCEPT YOUR
OATH. THIS JURISDICTION IS IMPROPER. I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
I'M AN AMERICAN WITH CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS RIGHT NOW.
THE COURT: MR. PARK, I'M GOING TO STOP YOU. YOU'VE
BEEN SITTING IN THE COURTROOM WHILE I'VE DONE MY CALENDAR ALL
AFTERNOON, AND YOU HAVE -- YOU ARE NOW -- THERE HAS BEEN AN
INDICTMENT, A SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT --
THE DEFENDANT: IT HAS BEEN RESCINDED AND REJECTED. WE
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DO NOT CONSENT TO THAT, AND IT HAS BEEN INPUT IN THE RECORD
MANY TIMES AND REJECTED. I DID SUBMIT MANY REQUESTS.
THE COURT: SIR, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE. IF YOU
WOULD LET THE COURT RUN THE PROCEEDINGS, THAT WOULD MAKE IT GO
A LOT BETTER.
WE'RE GOING TO START BY GOING THROUGH AND ARRAIGNING
YOU ON THE INDICTMENT THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS FILED IN YOUR
CASE, SIR. SO YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THE CHARGES THAT ARE
PENDING AGAINST YOU, AND THEN WE WILL GET TO ALL THE ISSUES
THAT ARE BEFORE THE COURT AND WE WILL DEAL WITH THEM OR SET
THEM. SO WITH THAT --
THE DEFENDANT: I DON'T CONSENT TO THE CHARGES IN THIS
JURISDICTION AS IT'S IMPROPER, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT STATEMENT.
MY COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK, MR. RAMOS, WILL NOW ARRAIGN
YOU ON THE INDICTMENT.
PLEASE GO AHEAD, ALEX.
THE CLERK: SURE.
SEAN MICHAEL PARK, IS THAT YOUR TRUE NAME?
THE COURT: SEAN MICHAEL PARK, IS THAT YOUR TRUE NAME?
THE DEFENDANT: I DON'T CONSENT TO THIS PROCEEDING
RIGHT NOW, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: OKAY. WHY DID YOU -- WELL, MR. --
THE DEFENDANT: I ACCEPT YOUR OATH OF OFFICE. MR.
JOHNSON WAS TERMINATED BACK ON THE 10TH. WE'VE SUBMITTED ALL
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OUR EVIDENCE TO THE COURT.
THE COURT: MR. PARK, WE NEED TO PROCEED --
THE DEFENDANT: ARTICLE 3, SECTION 2 OF THE
CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT THIS IS NO SUBJECT FOR THIS COURT TO
HEAR THIS.
THE COURT: OKAY. MR. PARK, I APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMENTS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED IN THE PROPER FASHION
THAT WE NEED TO PROCEED IN.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO THAT.
THE COURT: I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND YOUR OBJECTION, SIR,
IS NOTED ON THIS RECORD, AND SO YOU CAN BE CONFIDENT OF THAT.
THE DEFENDANT: I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED THIS INDICTMENT
UNTIL TODAY PROPERLY.
THE COURT: UNDERSTOOD, SIR, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS
WHEN YOU COME INTO THE COURT ON THESE MATTERS. THIS IS YOUR
FIRST APPEARANCE BEFORE THIS COURT, AND AN INDICTMENT HAS BEEN
FILED, AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO READ YOU THE CHARGES AND PROCEED.
SO, ALEX, PLEASE --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO THOSE, BUT I'LL LISTEN.
THE COURT: THANK YOU. IT'S NOTED FOR THE RECORD, MR.
PARK, IF IT'S OF COMFORT TO YOU, THAT YOU OBJECT TO THESE
PROCEEDINGS, SO THAT'S NOTED, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH
IT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO PLEASE PROCEED, ALEX.
THE CLERK: SURE.
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SEAN MICHAEL PARK, YOU ARE INFORMED THAT AN INDICTMENT
HAS BEEN FILED IN CASE NUMBER 12-CR-0494 CHARGING YOU WITH
TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 1623 SUBSECTION (A), PERJURY; TITLE
18, U.S.C., SECTION 1512(C), OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE; TITLE 18,
U.S.C., SECTION 2, AIDING AND ABETTING; TITLE 18, U.S.C.,
SECTION 1001(A)(2), FALSE STATEMENT.
THE GRAND JURY CHARGES: COUNT 1, ON OR ABOUT MARCH
25TH, 2011, WITHIN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA,
DEFENDANT SEAN MICHAEL PARK, IN A CASE BEFORE THE UNITED STATES
DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA,
ENTITLED 13231 SUNDANCE LLC VS. CRONIN, ET AL. 11 CASE NUMBER
11-CV-477-LAB-WVG, KNOWINGLY MADE A FALSE MATERIAL DECLARATION,
TO WIT: THE DEFENDANT EXECUTED A DECLARATION UNDER PENALTY OF
PERJURY OF THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES THAT, IN
DECEMBER 2010, THE DEFENDANT AND HIS TENANTS C.C.,J.E, AND
E.T., ENTERED INTO PREPAID LEASE AGREEMENTS IN WHICH THE
DEFENDANT'S TENANTS PAID SIX MONTHS RENT IN ADVANCE, WHEN, IN
TRUTH AND IN FACT, AS THE DEFENDANT KNEW, IN DECEMBER 2010, THE
DEFENDANT AND HIS TENANTS DID NOT ENTER INTO PREPAID LEASE
AGREEMENTS AND THAT THE DEFENDANT'S TENANTS DID NOT PAY
SIX MONTHS RENT IN ADVANCE; IN VIOLATION OF TITLE 18, UNITED
STATES CODE, SECTION 1623(A).
COUNT 2, ON OR ABOUT MARCH 30TH, 2011, WITHIN THE
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA, DEFENDANT SEAN MICHAEL PARK
DID CORRUPTLY ALTER DOCUMENTS, TO WIT: A WESTERN UNION
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FINANCIAL SERVICES, INC. MONEY ORDER, DATED 23RD, 2010 --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO ALL OF THIS.
THE CLERK: -- J.P. MORGAN CHASE BANK, N.A. 00CASHIER'S
CHECK, DATED DECEMBER 28, 2010, AND RESIDENTIAL LEASE OR
MONTH-TO-MONTH RENTAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE DEFENDANT AND
C.C., J.E. AND E.T., DATED DECEMBER 30TH, 2010, WITH THE INTENT
TO IMPAIR THEIR INTEGRITY AND OBSTRUCT, INFLUENCE AND IMPEDE AN
OFFICIAL PROCEEDING, 13231 SUNDANCE LLC VS. CRONIN, ET AL. CASE
NUMBER 11-CV-477-LAB-WVG, IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA, IN VIOLATION OF 18
U.S.C., UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 1512(C) AND TITLE 18,
UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 2.
COUNT 3, ON OR ABOUT MAY 2ND, 2011, WITHIN THE SOUTHERN
DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA, DEFENDANT SEAN MICHAEL PARK IN A MATTER
WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION, A DEPARTMENT AND AGENCY OF THE UNITED STATES,
DID KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY MAKE FALSE AND FICTITIOUS AND
FRAUDULENT STATEMENTS --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT.
THE CLERK: -- AND REPRESENTATIONS AS TO MATERIAL FACTS
IN THAT HE DID REPRESENT AND STATE TO A FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION AGENT THAT, IN DECEMBER 2010, THE DEFENDANT AND
HIS TENANTS, C.C., J.E. AND E.T., ENTERED INTO PREPAID LEASE
AGREEMENTS IN WHICH THE DEFENDANT'S TENANTS PAID SIX MONTHS
RENT IN ADVANCE, WHEREAS, IN TRUTH AND FACT, AS DEFENDANT THEN
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AND THERE WELL KNEW, THOSE STATEMENTS AND REPRESENTATIONS WERE
FALSE, FICTITIOUS AND FRAUDULENT WHEN MADE, IN VIOLATION OF
TITLE 18, UNITED STATES CODE, 1001(A)(2). DATED FEBRUARY 9TH,
2012.
SIR, YOU ARE FURTHER INFORMED THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT
TO BE REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL AT ALL STAGES OF THE PROCEEDINGS
BEFORE THE COURT.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT.
THE CLERK: YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONFRONT AND
CROSS-EXAMINE ANY WITNESSES WHO TESTIFY AGAINST YOU, AND YOU
HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE WITNESSES SUBPOENA TO TESTIFY IN YOUR
BEHALF.
SIR, HOW DO YOU PLEAD TO COUNTS 1 THROUGH 3 OF THIS
INDICTMENT, GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY?
THE DEFENDANT: I CANNOT PLEAD TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE NOT
BEEN GIVEN FULL DISCOVERY. I WAS JUST HANDED THIS INDICTMENT
TWO, THREE MINUTES BEFORE HE STARTED READING.
THE COURT: UNDERSTOOD.
MR. JOHNSON --
THE DEFENDANT: THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT JURISDICTION FOR
THIS COURT, YOUR HONOR, I'M UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.
THE COURT: THANK YOU. THAT'S NOTED ON THE RECORD.
MR. JOHNSON, LET ME ASK YOU, SINCE YOU HAVE NOT BEEN
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REMOVED BY THIS COURT, AND YOUR WITHDRAWAL HAS NOT BEEN
ACCEPTED AT THIS MOMENT, WOULD YOU AND MR. PARK --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO ANYTHING HE HAS TO SAY ON
MY CASE, YOUR HONOR. HE HAS ALREADY GIVEN ME BACK MY RETAINER
AND HAS TERMINATED HIMSELF AS OF THE 10TH OF JANUARY.
THE COURT: LET ME JUST STOP YOU FOR A SECOND. LET ME
SAY THIS THEN, YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO ENTER A PLEA AT THIS
TIME?
THE DEFENDANT: CORRECT.
THE COURT: WHY DON'T WE ENTER A NOT GUILTY PLEA. YOU
CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THAT IF YOU WANT TO.
THE DEFENDANT: NO, I'M NOT GOING TO ENTER A PLEA.
THE COURT: YOU WANT A CONTINUANCE FOR ONE WEEK TO
ENTER A PLEA?
THE DEFENDANT: I CANNOT PLEAD -- I'M GOING TO NEED
SIX MONTHS FOR MY DISCOVERY. I WAS NOT GIVEN ANY DISCOVERY,
YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: OKAY. I'M GOING TO STOP YOU AND WE WILL
COME BACK TO THIS. THE COURT ON YOUR BEHALF IS GOING TO ENTER
A NOT GUILTY PLEA.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT.
THE COURT: LET'S JUST --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO A NOT GUILTY PLEA.
THE COURT: OKAY.
THE DEFENDANT: THERE'S NO JURISDICTION IN THIS
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COURTROOM TO ENTER A PLEA FOR ME.
THE COURT: LET ME STOP YOU AND TELL YOU THIS, SIR, YOU
COULD HAVE A BRIEF CONTINUANCE TO ENTER A PLEA. I UNDERSTAND
YOU JUST SAW THE INDICTMENT THAT WAS FILED, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE
A LOT SOONER THAN SIX MONTHS. JUST HOLD THAT THOUGHT. DON'T
RESPOND RIGHT NOW.
THE DEFENDANT: I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING.
THE COURT: OKAY, JUST STOP FOR A SECOND BECAUSE YOU'VE
BEEN REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL.
THE DEFENDANT: NO, I'M NOT REPRESENTED.
THE COURT: YOU WERE --
THE DEFENDANT: I AM NOT A FICTITIOUS PERSON. I AM NOT
REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL, AND I OBJECT TO THAT STATEMENT.
THE COURT: I'M NOT SURE WHAT STATEMENT YOU'RE
OBJECTING TO, BUT THAT'S FINE.
THE DEFENDANT: IT'S ON THE RECORD AND IT'S BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE COURT THAT MR. JOHNSON HAS BEEN TERMINATED AS
OF THE 9TH OF JANUARY.
THE COURT: LET ME STOP YOU FOR JUST A SECOND HERE.
I HAVE TO ASK MR. JOHNSON, HAVE YOU WITHDRAWN FROM THIS
CASE, SIR?
MR. JOHNSON: I'VE ASKED THE COURT TO PERMIT ME TO
WITHDRAW.
THE DEFENDANT: I HAVE SOME DOCUMENTATION YOU MIGHT
WANT TO SEE.
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THE COURT: NO, I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY DOCUMENTATION
OTHER THAN WHAT'S BEEN FILED WITH THE COURT, SIR.
THE DEFENDANT: TERMINATION FOR MR. JOHNSON SIGNED AND
DATED JANUARY 18TH, TERMINATION REFUND OF UNEARNED FEES.
THE COURT: OKAY. IS THAT TRUE, MR. JOHNSON?
MR. JOHNSON: THAT'S CORRECT. YES.
THE COURT: VERY WELL. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN, MR. PARK,
WITH REGARD TO THIS? DO YOU INTEND TO RETAIN FURTHER COUNSEL
IN THIS MATTER?
THE DEFENDANT: I WOULD LIKE SOME TIME TO RESEARCH THE
DISCOVERY THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN YET.
THE COURT: OKAY. I UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD LIKE SOME
TIME, BUT THE COURT NEEDS TO KNOW ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER
ATTORNEY REPRESENT YOU? A COUPLE OF THINGS CAN HAPPEN. YOU
COULD HAVE SOMEBODY SUBSTITUTE IN, WHICH MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
DONE. MOST PEOPLE -- IF YOU WEREN'T GOING TO PROCEED WITH MR.
JOHNSON, MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE HAD ANOTHER COUNSEL HERE --
LISTEN TO ME BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING ELSE, MR. PARK. MOST
PEOPLE WOULD HAVE HAD SOMEBODY SUBSTITUTE IN FOR THEM OR THEY
WOULD ASK ME TO APPOINT COUNSEL OR THEY WOULD SAY, AND THIS IS
RARE, BECAUSE IT'S ILL-ADVISED, IT'S ILL-ADVISED.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO IT BEING IN THIS COURTROOM.
IT'S NOT THE RIGHT JURISDICTION.
THE COURT: OKAY, BUT YOU NEED TO LISTEN --
THE DEFENDANT: UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED
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STATES OF AMERICA.
THE COURT: YOU NEED TO LISTEN, MR. PARK. SOMEBODY
COULD SUBSTITUTE IN FOR MR. JOHNSON, OKAY. YOU COULD ASK THE
COURT TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT YOU. YOU COULD
REPRESENT YOURSELF. THE LAST ONE, REPRESENTING YOURSELF, IS
EXTRAORDINARILY ILL-ADVISED. IT'S NOT A WISE THING TO DO.
THE DEFENDANT: I DON'T NEED LEGAL ADVICE, YOUR HONOR,
PLEASE.
THE COURT: OKAY. SO WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION, TO
SUBSTITUTE IN, TO ASK FOR APPOINTED COUNSEL OR TO REPRESENT
YOURSELF?
THE DEFENDANT: I'M REPRESENTING MYSELF, BUT I'M ASKING
FOR TIME.
THE COURT: WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH SOME THINGS. GIVE
ME JUST A MOMENT, IF YOU WOULD.
MR. PARK, HAVE YOU EVER -- AND THIS GOES TO YOUR
SUGGESTION AND YOUR DESIRE TO REPRESENT YOURSELF, MR. PARK.
HAVE YOU EVER STUDIED LAW, SIR?
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO THESE QUESTIONS, YOUR
HONOR, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT JURISDICTION FOR THIS.
THE COURT: THAT IS NOTED FOR THE RECORD, AND NOW WE'RE
GOING TO PROCEED THROUGH THE INQUIRY THAT THE COURT MUST
INQUIRE OF, SIR, IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY
TO REPRESENT YOURSELF.
HAVE YOU EVER STUDIED LAW?
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THE DEFENDANT: I HAVE STUDIED LAW. I'VE STUDIED MY
RIGHTS, AND I'VE STATED MY RIGHTS TO THIS COURT, AND I OBJECT
TO ANY FURTHER CONTINUANCE OF THIS CASE IN THIS COURT BASED ON
JURISDICTION.
THE COURT: I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO YOU HAVE STUDIED
LAW. DO YOU HAVE A FORMAL JURIS DOCTORATE DEGREE FROM --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO THESE QUESTIONS, YOUR
HONOR. I NEED SOME TIME FOR DISCOVERY. I WAS JUST GIVEN,
MINUTES BEFORE, AN INDICTMENT/INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT GIVEN TO
ME FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS.
THE COURT: MR. PARK, THERE IS A PROPER WAY TO PROCEED.
YOU HAVE NOTED NUMEROUS TIMES, INTERRUPTING THE COURT, THAT YOU
OBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION. THAT IS NOTED. THAT'S VERY, VERY
CLEAR, SIR, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME THINGS THAT NEED
TO BE INQUIRED OF WITH REGARD TO REPRESENTING YOURSELF, SIR,
BECAUSE YOU ARE FACING SERIOUS CHARGES, AND I'M GOING TO GO
THROUGH THIS.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO ALL OF THOSE CHARGES.
THE COURT: OF COURSE YOU DO. OF COURSE, YOU DO. THAT
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME, SIR. YOU'RE A DEFENDANT IN THIS
COURT --
THE DEFENDANT: I'M A PROPOSED DEFENDANT. I'M NOT
ADMITTING TO BEING A DEFENDANT. THIS IS A PROPOSED DEFENDANT,
AS MY DOCUMENTS WILL STATE.
THE COURT: SO YOU OBJECT TO EVERYTHING, BUT WE'RE
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GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS, SIR.
SO YOU'VE TOLD THE COURT THAT YOU HAVE STUDIED LAW,
CORRECT?
THE DEFENDANT: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RELEVANCE OF THIS
IS.
THE COURT: IT WILL BECOME RELEVANT IF YOU WILL GO
THROUGH THIS WITH ME.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO THIS.
THE COURT: OKAY. HAVE YOU EVER REPRESENTED YOURSELF
IN A CRIMINAL PROCEEDING BEFORE? SIR, THIS GOES TO YOUR
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE UNDERTAKEN TO REPRESENT
YOURSELF IN THIS COURT, AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE INQUIRY.
THE DEFENDANT: AT THIS TIME I'M ASKING FOR SOME EXTRA
TIME TO DO THIS RESEARCH. I'VE JUST BEEN GIVEN A BOATLOAD OF
INFORMATION AND I MIGHT RECONSIDER, BUT AT THIS TIME I OBJECT
TO ALL OF THESE STATEMENTS, AND I OBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION
UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND YOUR OATH.
THE COURT: I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS BEFORE
YOU EMBARK ON THIS. THAT'S ALL THIS IS ABOUT, MR. PARK. SO
I'M GOING TO TRY ONCE AGAIN TO WORK WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT, BUT
YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH ME IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH THIS.
LET'S GO BACK. HAVE YOU EVER STUDIED LAW?
THE DEFENDANT: I HAVE STUDIED SOME LAW.
THE COURT: OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY FORMAL DEGREES IN
LAW, LIKE A CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEGREE OR A LAW DEGREE, SIR?
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THE DEFENDANT: NO, AND I OBJECT TO THESE QUESTIONS.
THE COURT: OKAY. GO WITH ME AND YOU'LL SEE WHY I'M
INQUIRING IN THIS WAY. HAVE YOU EVER REPRESENTED YOURSELF
BEFORE, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT CONCEDING JURISDICTION, IN A
COURT SETTING SIMILAR TO THIS?
THE DEFENDANT: NO.
THE COURT: OKAY. NOW, YOU WERE JUST READ AN
INDICTMENT THAT WAS FILED AGAINST YOU. YOU'RE NOT CONCEDING
ANYTHING, BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND THESE WERE THE CHARGES THAT
HAVE BEEN FILED AGAINST YOU? COUNT 1, PERJURY. COUNT 2,
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. COUNT 3, FALSE STATEMENTS, ALL IN
VIOLATION OF TITLE 18 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, VARIOUS
SECTIONS. YOU HEARD THAT READ IN THIS COURTROOM, DID YOU NOT,
MR. PARK?
THE DEFENDANT: I DID TODAY, BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND
THE NATURE OF THIS AND I DO NOT CONSENT.
THE COURT: OKAY.
THE DEFENDANT: THE PURPORTED CHARACTER OF THESE
CHARGES.
THE COURT: OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH.
THE DEFENDANT: I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY BONA FIDE
EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY AND I CANNOT --
THE COURT: WE'RE NOT GOING THERE YET. JUST GO WITH
ME. SO YOU HEARD THOSE CHARGES READ. NOW, THIS IS VERY
CRITICAL, MR. PARK, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU WERE FOUND
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GUILTY OF THE CRIME CHARGED IN COUNT 1, THE COURT MUST IMPOSE
AN ASSESSMENT OF $100 AND COULD SENTENCE YOU TO AS MANY AS
FIVE YEARS IN PRISON, IMPOSE A TERM OF SUPERVISED RELEASE THAT
FOLLOWS IMPRISONMENT OF UP TO THREE YEARS, AND FINE YOU AS MUCH
AS $250,000? THAT'S FOR COUNT 1.
WITH REGARD TO COUNT 2, THE COURT MUST -- IF YOU'RE
FOUND GUILTY, THE COURT MUST IMPOSE AN ASSESSMENT OF $100, AND
COULD SENTENCE YOU TO AS MANY AS 20 YEARS IN PRISON, AND IMPOSE
A TERM OF SUPERVISED RELEASE THAT FOLLOWS IMPRISONMENT OF UP TO
THREE YEARS, AND A FINE AS MUCH AS $250,000. THAT'S ON COUNT
2.
COUNT 3, IF FOUND GUILTY, MR. PARK, THE COURT MUST
IMPOSE AN ASSESSMENT OF $100, AND COULD SENTENCE YOU TO AS MANY
AS FIVE YEARS IN PRISON, IMPOSE A SUPERVISED RELEASE THAT
FOLLOWS IMPRISONMENT OF UP TO THREE YEARS, AND FINE YOU AS MUCH
AS $250,000.
I WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE MAXIMUM PENALTIES THAT
COULD OCCUR BASED ON THESE THREE CHARGES IN THE SUPERSEDING
INDICTMENT.
DO YOU ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU WERE FOUND GUILTY OF
MORE THAN ONE OF THESE CRIMES THIS COURT COULD ORDER THAT
SENTENCES BE SERVED CONSECUTIVELY, MEANING ONE AFTER ANOTHER?
THE DEFENDANT: BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS JUST
HANDED TO ME, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS AND NEED TIME TO
GO OVER THIS.
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THE COURT: I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I WANTED YOU TO
UNDERSTAND, FROM THE COURT, THAT THOSE ARE THE MAXIMUMS YOU
COULD BE FACING. SO NOW YOU HAVE HEARD THAT, CORRECT, YOU
HEARD IT FROM THE COURT, TRUE?
THE DEFENDANT: I JUST HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, YES.
THE COURT: OKAY. DO YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR, THAT THERE
ARE ADVISORY SENTENCING GUIDELINES THAT MAY HAVE AN AFFECT ON
YOUR SENTENCE IF YOU ARE FOUND GUILTY? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH
THE FEDERAL ADVISORY SENTENCING GUIDELINES, MR. PARK?
THE DEFENDANT: NO, I'M NOT. THOSE WERE NOT GIVEN TO
ME FROM MY PREVIOUS COUNSEL.
THE COURT: OKAY. WELL, THEY -- OKAY. DO YOU
UNDERSTAND, MR. PARK, THAT IF YOU REPRESENT YOURSELF YOU ARE ON
YOUR OWN. I CANNOT TELL YOU OR EVEN ADVISE YOU ON HOW TO TRY
YOUR CASE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
THE DEFENDANT: YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT IN
THE RIGHT JURISDICTION AND --
THE COURT: STOP FOR JUST A MINUTE.
THE DEFENDANT: THERE IS NO POWER FOR YOU TO EVEN
PROCEED WITH THIS CASE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED
STATES.
THE COURT: AND THAT'S BEEN NOTED, AND IS NOTED AGAIN
ON THE RECORD, SO LET'S GO BACK AND SEE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND
THAT THE ROLE OF A JUDGE IS NEUTRAL? YOU'VE BEEN SITTING HERE
THIS AFTERNOON WATCHING THE COURT'S AFTERNOON CALENDAR. I
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DON'T HELP PEOPLE OVER ON THIS SIDE. I DON'T HELP PEOPLE OVER
ON THIS SIDE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE REPRESENTED BY
COUNSEL OR NOT. SOMEBODY COULD HAVE THE BEST LAWYER, SOMEBODY
COULD HAVE THE WORST LAWYER.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT THAT IT'S IN THIS COURTROOM.
THE COURT: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU NEED TO LISTEN
BECAUSE YOU'RE HEARING SOME THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR YOU
TO UNDERSTAND.
I CAN'T HELP YOU TRY YOUR CASE. I CAN'T SUGGEST TO YOU
WHAT TO DO. I ONLY SPEAK AS CLEARLY AND AS NON-LEGALLY AS I
CAN, AND EVEN THAT SOMETIME'S HARD BECAUSE THE LAW IS THE LAW.
BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR, THAT YOU WOULD BE ON YOUR OWN IF
YOU CHOOSE TO REPRESENT YOURSELF? IT WOULD BE YOU AGAINST
SOMEBODY WHO HAS A LAW DEGREE AND HAS PRACTICED LAW AND HAS
PROSECUTED CASES, LIKE THIS ONE, MANY TIMES. DO YOU UNDERSTAND
THAT?
THE DEFENDANT: I DON'T CONSENT TO ANYTHING THAT HAS
BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE ME WITH THE CAPITAL USES OF MY NAME, THAT
IS NOT ME, AND I DO NOT CONSENT TO THE JURISDICTION OF THIS
COURT AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THE COURT: OKAY. WELL, LET'S CONTINUE ON. YOU'VE
STATED THAT BEFORE, AND SO THE COURT HAS TOLD YOU NUMEROUS
TIMES YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. YOU DON'T HAVE ASSISTANCE, IF YOU
CHOOSE TO REPRESENT YOURSELF.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE FEDERAL RULES OF EVIDENCE?
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THE DEFENDANT: I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT ALL
THE DISCOVERY EVIDENCE YET.
THE COURT: WELL, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISCOVERY
EVIDENCE, SIR, IT'S THE LAW THAT THE COURT USES TO ADMIT --
THE DEFENDANT: AND I OBJECT TO THOSE.
THE COURT: VERY WELL, SIR. SO YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR
WITH THEM IS WHAT I'M GOING TO ASSUME BY YOUR COMMENT.
NEXT QUESTION IS, DO YOU UNDERSTAND --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO YOU ANSWERING FOR ME. I
OBJECT TO THIS CONTINUING IN THIS COURTROOM BASED ON THE
EVIDENCE WE'VE SUBMITTED.
THE COURT: YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE IF
YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT, MR. PARK. THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS
PROCEEDING, SIR, AND THE INQUIRY THAT I'M GOING THROUGH NOW IS
DESIGNED TO ASSIST YOU TO KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ON
YOURSELF OR HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE. YOU MAY THINK IT'S VERY
HELPFUL TO YOURSELF TO JUST REPEAT, "I DON'T AGREE. I DON'T
CONSENT. IT'S NOT ME." WELL, MR. PARK, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU
THAT'S BEEN NOTED. IT COVERS THIS ENTIRE PROCEEDING, IF YOU
WISH, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TRY TO FOCUS ON WHAT I'M SAYING
BECAUSE THIS IS EXTRAORDINARILY SERIOUS, SIR, AND IF YOU WANT
ME TO GO BACK AND READ THE MAXIMUM PENALTIES AGAIN, AND TELL
YOU AGAIN THAT THESE COULD BE STACKED ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER,
SIR, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE THE BASIC COMMENT THAT YOU
DON'T AGREE, YOU DON'T SUBJECT, YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S
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JURISDICTION HERE IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL. SO IF WE COULD JUST
CONTINUE ON, I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR
YOU TO THINK ABOUT HERE.
SO I ASKED YOU IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE RULES OF
EVIDENCE.
THE DEFENDANT: I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER
ANYTHING THAT -- OTHER THAN SECONDS BEFORE.
THE COURT: THE RULES OF EVIDENCE WILL NOT BE PROVIDED
TO YOU. THE SENTENCING GUIDELINES ARE NOT PROVIDED BY MR.
JOHNSON OR THE GOVERNMENT. THESE ARE DOCUMENTS AND LAWS THAT
WE USE EVERY DAY IN PREPARING TO GO FORWARD ON CASES, AND IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT YOU REALIZE THAT BECAUSE THE PERSON YOU WILL BE
UP AGAINST KNOWS ABOUT THE SENTENCING GUIDELINES, KNOWS ABOUT
THE FEDERAL RULES OF EVIDENCE. SO LET'S CONTINUE.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE RULES OF EVIDENCE GOVERN
WHAT EVIDENCE MAY OR MAY NOT BE INTRODUCED AT A TRIAL, THAT IN
REPRESENTING YOURSELF YOU MUST ABIDE BY THOSE VERY TECHNICAL
RULES AND THEY CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE RELAXED FOR YOUR BENEFIT;
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO THOSE STATEMENTS AS THIS IS
NOT IN THE RIGHT JURISDICTION.
THE COURT: OKAY. LET'S CONTINUE.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE FEDERAL RULES OF CRIMINAL
PROCEDURE?
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO THAT.
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THE COURT: DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE RULES GOVERN
THE WAY A CRIMINAL ACTION IS TRIED IN FEDERAL COURT, THAT YOU
ARE BOUND BY THOSE RULES --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT THAT I AM BOUND BY THE RULES
OF THIS COURT. I'M AN AMERICAN WITH FULL CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS, POWERS, AND THIS COURT HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER ME AND
NOTHING TO OFFER ME.
THE COURT: LET ME CONTINUE, PLEASE.
THE DEFENDANT: UNDER ARTICLE 3, SECTION 2 OF THE
CONSTITUTION AND THE ELEVENTH AMENDMENT THAT PRIVILEGE WAS
TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS COURT.
THE COURT: VERY WELL. LET ME CONTINUE THOUGH.
I MUST ADVISE YOU, MR. PARK, THAT IN MY OPINION A
TRAINED LAWYER WOULD DEFEND YOU FAR BETTER THAN YOU COULD TRY
TO REPRESENT YOURSELF. IT APPEARS, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVEN'T
BEEN WILLING TO ANSWER THE COURT'S QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE
WITH THE COURT WITH REGARD TO YOUR ABILITY TO REPRESENT
YOURSELF OR YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THESE THINGS, IT APPEARS THAT YOU
MAY NOT HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE
NECESSARY. YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH COURT PROCEDURE OR THE
RULES OF EVIDENCE, AND I WOULD STRONGLY --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT THAT YOU'RE ANSWERING FOR ME.
THE COURT: SIR, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU NOT TO INTERRUPT
ME. I'M NOW SPEAKING. IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT YOU -- WHAT YOUR
POSITION IS, SIR.
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SO YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE RULES OF EVIDENCE.
YOU'VE ACKNOWLEDGED AS MUCH. I STRONGLY URGE YOU NOT TO
REPRESENT YOURSELF.
IN LIGHT OF THE PENALTY THAT YOU MIGHT SUFFER IF YOU'RE
FOUND GUILTY, AND IN LIGHT OF ALL THE DIFFICULTIES OF
REPRESENTING YOURSELF, DO YOU STILL WISH TO REPRESENT YOURSELF
AND GIVE UP YOUR RIGHT TO BE REPRESENTED BY LEGAL COUNSEL?
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT. I DO NOT -- I WOULD LIKE
SOME TIME AND A CONTINUANCE TO GO OVER THE DISCOVERY THAT I WAS
JUST GIVEN.
THE COURT: LET ME ASK COUNSEL IF HE WOULD LIKE TO
COMMENT.
MR. RAHMANI: YES, YOUR HONOR. YOUR HONOR, MR. JOHNSON
IS MR. PARK'S FOURTH ATTORNEY IN THIS CASE, AND THAT'S JUST
DURING THE PRE-INDICTMENT PHASE. MR. PARK IS NOT AN ATTORNEY.
HE HAS NO FORMAL LEGAL TRAINING, AND, OF COURSE, DISCOVERY HAS
BEEN PROVIDED TO MR. PARK'S ATTORNEYS. WE'VE HAD FACE-TO-FACE
MEETINGS WITH MR. PARK AND HIS ATTORNEYS. WE'VE DISCUSSED THE
FACTS AND THE ALLEGATIONS IN THIS CASE.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO THIS.
MR. RAHMANI: THE GOVERNMENT --
THE COURT: YOU KNOW, MR. PARK, YOU'RE GOING TO SING
THE SAME REFRAIN THIS AFTERNOON, BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED
TO TALK. WE ARE ALWAYS RESPECTFUL IN THIS COURTROOM, AND I'M
SUGGESTING TO YOU THAT YOU NO LONGER INTERRUPT EITHER THE COURT
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OR COUNSEL.
GO AHEAD.
MR. RAHMANI: YOUR HONOR, THE GOVERNMENT REQUESTS, IF
MR. JOHNSON DOES SUBSTITUTE OUT, THAT SHADOW COUNSEL BE
APPOINTED. MR. PARK HAS REPRESENTED HIMSELF BEFORE. HE
REPRESENTED HIMSELF IN A CIVIL CASE BEFORE JUDGE BURNS. THE
ALLEGATIONS IN THIS CASE ARE THAT HE PROVIDED FALSE DOCUMENTS
AND TESTIMONY IN THAT CIVIL CASE, AND THAT'S THE BASIS FOR THE
CHARGES IN THIS CASE, SO I DO BELIEVE, BASED ON MR. PARK'S
CONDUCT IN THAT CASE, HIS CONDUCT BEFORE THIS COURT AND BEFORE
MAGISTRATE COURT, THAT SHADOW COUNSEL IS APPROPRIATE. I DON'T
BELIEVE HE HAS SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE TO PROCEED PRO PER, AND THE
GOVERNMENT WOULD REITERATE ITS REQUEST THAT COUNSEL BE
APPOINTED.
THE COURT: SHADOW COUNSEL.
MR. RAHMANI: SHADOW COUNSEL, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: WE SOMETIMES CALL IT ADVISORY COUNSEL --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT.
THE COURT: -- ADVISORY COUNSEL, STAND-BY COUNSEL,
SOMETIMES IT'S CALLED A CONSULTANT FOR THE COURT. OKAY.
UNDERSTOOD.
LET ME ASK MR. JOHNSON. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU WERE
INVOLVED IN THIS CASE, MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO
ACCEPT AN APPOINTMENT AS SHADOW COUNSEL, STAND-BY COUNSEL,
ADVISORY COUNSEL, CONSULTANT TO THE COURT OR NOT IN THIS CASE,
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GIVEN WHAT YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, SIR?
MR. JOHNSON: I THINK NOT IN THIS CASE, GIVEN WHAT I
KNOW AND GIVEN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. PARK THAT WOULD NOT BE
HELPFUL, I THINK.
THE COURT: OKAY. SO YOUR REQUEST TODAY IS THAT THE
COURT JUST RELIEVE YOU IN THIS MATTER -- OR ACCEPT THE FACT
THAT YOU'RE NO LONGER IN THIS MATTER, ACCEPT YOUR WITHDRAWAL.
MR. JOHNSON: YES, YOUR HONOR, TO GRANT MY MOTION TO
WITHDRAW, YES.
THE COURT: OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR REQUEST.
THE DEFENDANT: YES. I OBJECT TO MR. JOHNSON
TRESPASSING ON MY CASE ANY LONGER. HE'S ALREADY BEEN
TERMINATED.
THE COURT: OKAY. WELL, THERE'S --
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO SHADOW COUNSEL.
THE COURT: DO YOU UNDERSTAND THERE ARE GOING TO BE
SOME DIFFICULT MOMENTS IN REPRESENTING YOURSELF AND STAND-BY
COUNSEL IS THERE IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, IF YOU WANT TO USE
SOME ASSISTANCE. IT'S CALLED SHADOW COUNSEL, STAND-BY COUNSEL,
ADVISORY COUNSEL. IT'S A RESOURCE TO YOU, MR. PARK, I THINK
MAYBE I COULD BEST PUT IT THAT WAY. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE
CONCEPT I'M TRYING TO CONVEY?
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT TO IT, ANY SHADOW COUNSEL, BUT
I DON'T -- I DID HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.
THE COURT: OKAY. WHAT'S THE GOVERNMENT'S POSITION ON
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WHERE WE GO FROM HERE?
MR. RAHMANI: YOUR HONOR, WE HAVE A MAXIMUM TRIAL DATE
OF MARCH 21ST.
THE COURT: I THINK IT'S MARCH 23RD NOW.
MR. RAHMANI: OH, MARCH 23RD?
THE COURT: I THINK IT'S MARCH 23RD.
MR. RAHMANI: IN ANY EVENT, YOUR HONOR, IT DOES NOT --
GIVEN THE SPEEDY TRIAL ACT, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT MR. PARK IS
CERTAINLY WILLING TO WAIVE ANY OF THOSE RIGHTS. THE GOVERNMENT
WOULD ASK THAT TRIAL BE SET BEFORE THE MAXIMUM TRIAL DATE.
THE COURT: WELL, I'M GOING TO APPOINT STAND-BY
COUNSEL, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE NAME, ALEX, OFF THE LIST.
THE CLERK: SURE.
THE COURT: I'M GOING TO ACCEPT -- GRANT THE MOTION TO
WITHDRAW, MR. JOHNSON.
MR. JOHNSON: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR A MOTION HEARING
DATE IN THIS MATTER, AND THE REASON I SAY THAT PAPERWORK HAS
BEEN FILED BY MR. PARK. IT'S BEEN RECENT. IT'S HARD TO
DISCERN THE NATURE OF WHAT IT IS. I'M INCLINED TO CONSTRUE IT
AS A MOTION TO DISMISS. I THINK WHAT WE NEED IN THIS MATTER IS
A TRIAL DATE, AN IN LIMINE DATE, A MOTION HEARING DATE, AND
IT'S ALL IN FAIRLY QUICK ORDER.
BUT, ALEX, WHO IS NEXT?
THE CLERK: DONALD LEVINE, PHONE NUMBER 619-615-6200.
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DONALD LEVINE.
THE COURT: HE IS APPOINTED, MR. PARK, AS ADVISORY,
STAND-BY COUNSEL. THE GOVERNMENT REFERRED TO HIM AS A SHADOW
COUNSEL. I REFERRED TO HIM AS A RESOURCE.
DID YOU GET HIS NAME AND NUMBER, SIR?
THE DEFENDANT: I WROTE IT DOWN.
THE COURT: OKAY. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A MAXIMUM
TRIAL DATE IN THIS MATTER. I THINK I DO HAVE A MOTION ON FILE
BECAUSE I'M CONSTRUING --
YOU FILED A LOT OF PAPERS, TRUE? WE COULD AGREE ON
THAT, RIGHT?
THE DEFENDANT: YES.
THE COURT: YOU FILED SOME PAPERWORK. I'M NOT REALLY
SURE -- I HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH TIME TO SIT DOWN AND ACTUALLY GO
THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT MY SENSE OF IT IS BASICALLY A LITTLE BIT
ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU SAID THIS AFTERNOON. HE'S
OBJECTING TO JURISDICTION, OBJECTING TO A LOT OF THINGS,
OBJECTING TO BEING HERE. SO PUTTING IT IN A PARLANCE THAT WE
WOULD NORMALLY USE, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THAT'S A MOTION
TO DISMISS, WHICH MEANS --
THE DEFENDANT: IT IS.
THE COURT: -- YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO FILE A RESPONSE,
AND THE COURT'S GOING TO GET TO RULE ON IT.
SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED WILL BE A MOTION HEARING DATE,
THEN MOTIONS IN LIMINE, AND A TRIAL DATE, ALL BEFORE WE GET TO
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THE MAXIMUM TRIAL DATE, WHICH I'LL DOUBLE-CHECK BUT I THINK
IT'S MARCH 23RD, WHICH ISN'T FAR AWAY.
MR. JOHNSON: YOUR HONOR, ONE THING IS THAT MOTIONS
WERE FILED UNDER A DIFFERENT CASE NUMBER. THERE'S A NEW CASE
NUMBER NOW. I THINK WHEN THE CASE WAS INDICTED IT LOOKS TO ME
IT'S GOT A 12 NUMBER, AND NEITHER MR. PARK NOR THE GOVERNMENT
ADDRESSED THIS, BUT I'M ASSUMING HE WANTS ALL HIS MOTIONS AND
HIS FILINGS TRANSFERRED FROM ONE CASE TO THE OTHER.
THE COURT: THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, THAT WAS AN
IMPORTANT POINT.
EVERYTHING THAT WAS FILED IN THE 5297 CASE NOW NEEDS TO
BE FILED IN THE 0494 CASE, ALL MOTIONS, YOUR PAPERWORK, SIR,
BECAUSE THERE'S A NEW CASE.
THE DEFENDANT: I OBJECT. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE
FILED HAVE -- SOME HAVE BEEN REJECTED AND SOME HAVE BEEN
PURPOSELY NOT ADDED TO THE DOCKET, I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE
RECORD, AND WE DO HAVE THAT IN THE EXHIBITS.
THE COURT: SIR, I'M GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT AND EXPLAIN
TO YOU, WE DO THINGS BY CERTAIN PROCEDURES. I REJECT DOCUMENTS
EVERY DAY FROM LAWYERS, AND IF YOU CHOOSE TO REPRESENT
YOURSELF, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CHOOSING TO DO,
WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF MR. LEVINE, WHO WILL BE YOUR STAND-BY
COUNSEL, I WILL CONTINUE TO REJECT THOSE DOCUMENTS BY THE SAME
STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES THAT I ALWAYS HAVE. IF DOCUMENTS HAVE
BEEN REJECTED, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN REJECTED BY ANYBODY. SOME
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DOCUMENTS THOUGH -- THE DOCUMENTS I'M TALKING ABOUT HAVE BEEN
ACCEPTED, SO I HAVE DOCUMENTS FROM YOU, SIR, THAT HAVE BEEN
ACCEPTED THAT I'M CONSTRUING AS A MOTION TO DISMISS, BUT MR.
JOHNSON IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WE STARTED OUT WITH AN
INFORMATION. NOW WE HAVE AN INDICTMENT. IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT
NUMBER. YOU NEED TO REFILE UNDER THE NEW NUMBER. ANYBODY
WOULD HAVE TO, MR. JOHNSON WOULD, ANY LAWYER.
THE DEFENDANT: WE'VE BEEN FILING UNDER THE NEW NUMBER.
THE COURT: PARDON?
THE DEFENDANT: WE HAVE BEEN FILING UNDER THE NEW
NUMBER.
THE COURT: UNDER THE 494 NUMBER?
MR. JOHNSON: I THINK HE'S JUST CONFUSED ON THAT POINT.
HE DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS EVEN A NEW CASE NUMBER. I DIDN'T
MENTION IT TO HIM. IT'S IN THE INDICTMENT IS ALL.
THE COURT: SO YOU'VE GOT TO FILE UNDER THE INDICTMENT
OTHERWISE THE MOTIONS DON'T GET HEARD.
I DON'T PRACTICE LAW. I AM LIKE THE REFEREE ON THE
FIELD. I'M LIKE THE REFEREE ON THE FIELD. I'M NOT FOR ONE
TEAM OR THE OTHER TEAM. I'M JUST HERE CALLING THE BALLS AND
STRIKES, MR. PARK, I MEAN, THINK OF IT THAT WAY. SO THAT'S WHY
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE STAND-BY COUNSEL TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT
I'M SAYING.
BUT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS
CLEAR AS I CAN, YOU NOW NEED TO FILE EVERYTHING UNDER THE
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INDICTMENT THAT WAS FILED BECAUSE THAT'S GOT A NEW NUMBER, AND
IT'S THE WAY THINGS WORK.
THE DEFENDANT: THE INDICTMENT I WAS JUST SERVED TODAY.
THE COURT: YES, SIR.
THE DEFENDANT: I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT HAD A DIFFERENT
NUMBER. YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE COURT: OKAY. SO --
MR. RAHMANI: AND, YOUR HONOR, I APOLOGIZE --
THE COURT: THAT'S OKAY. GO AHEAD.
MR. RAHMANI: THE GOVERNMENT'S JUST FILED A MOTION FOR
RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY. I'LL MAKE SURE TO FILE THAT IN THE
INDICTED CASE AS WELL.
THE COURT: OKAY. VERY WELL. SO YOU NEED TO REFILE AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE, MR. PARK. YOU'RE GOING TO FILE.
BUT LET ME GO BACK TO SOMETHING. I'VE GONE THROUGH A
LITANY OF QUESTIONS WITH YOU, MR. PARK, WITH REGARD TO YOUR
BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING TO REPRESENT
YOURSELF. I WANT TO GO BACK AND SEE IF YOU STILL WANT TO DO
THAT, SIR, IN LIGHT OF OUR DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON. DO YOU
WANT TO GIVE UP YOUR RIGHT TO BE REPRESENTED?
THE DEFENDANT: AT THIS TIME I OBJECT, AND I AM
REPRESENTING MYSELF.
THE COURT: OKAY. AND YOUR DECISION IS A VOLUNTARY
ONE, SIR?
THE DEFENDANT: YES.
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THE COURT: OKAY. AND I WILL SAY THAT YOU HAVE MADE A
KNOWING AND VOLUNTARY WAIVER OF YOUR RIGHT TO COUNSEL AND I
WILL LET YOU PROCEED, BUT I HAVE APPOINTED STAND-BY COUNSEL.
YOU CAN THINK OF IT ANOTHER WAY AS A LITTLE BIT OF A SAFETY
NET.
THE DEFENDANT: I CAN'T BE REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL
BECAUSE I AM -- I'M NOT A CORPORATION. I'M A LIVING MAN.
THE COURT: WELL, YOU CAN TALK TO MR. LEVINE, MR.
LEVINE IS JUST THERE AS A RESOURCE. HE'S NOT REPRESENTING YOU.
YOU'RE REPRESENTING YOURSELF BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE ASKED
TO DO, AND -- BUT HE'S THERE AS A SAFETY NET. HE'S THERE AS
STANDBY. HE'S THERE AS SHADOW COUNSEL. THERE ARE A LOT OF
DIFFERENT WORDS, BUT WHAT IT MEANS IS WHEN THE GOING GETS
TOUGH, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO DO IT, WHICH MAY
HAPPEN, YOU CAN ASK MR. LEVINE FOR SOME ADVICE AND SOME
THOUGHTS.
SO I WANT TO SET SOME DATES IN THIS MATTER, GIVEN WHERE
WE ARE, AND I KNOW MOTIONS WILL BE FORTHCOMING, AND I HAVE ONE,
COUNSEL, THAT I'M DEEMING -- WHICH WAS ACCEPTED BY THE CLERK'S
OFFICE AND NOT RETURNED -- OR DISCREPANCIES, I DO BELIEVE, AND
WE'LL DEEM THAT A MOTION TO DISMISS. SO LET'S SET A MOTION
HEARING FOR THAT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO FILE A RESPONSE.
MR. RAHMANI: CERTAINLY, YOUR HONOR. I HAVEN'T
RECEIVED THAT DOCUMENT SO I DON'T KNOW IF MR. PARK --
THE DEFENDANT: IT WAS SUBMITTED TODAY.
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THE COURT: OKAY. WELL, YOU'LL BE FILING YOUR
DOCUMENTS WITH A COPY TO THE COURT AND A COPY TO COUNSEL.
SO HOW SOON CAN WE SET THE MOTION HEARING DATE? MAYBE
WE SHOULD DO IT BASED ON THE TRIAL DATE, ALEX. IF WE HAVE A
MAXIMUM TRAIL DATE --
THE DEFENDANT: I WOULD REQUEST SOME TIME TO GET MYSELF
UP TO PAR WITH THE DISCOVERY. I STILL DON'T BELIEVE I'VE
RECEIVED ALL OF THE DISCOVERY.
THE COURT: OKAY. LET'S STOP RIGHT THERE AND ASK WHAT
THE DISCOVERY IS IN THIS MATTER AND HOW VOLUMINOUS IT IS,
COUNSEL.
MR. RAHMANI: YOUR HONOR, IT'S 51 PAGES. IT'S NOT VERY
VOLUMINOUS.
THE COURT: ARE YOU PREPARED TO TURN IT OVER?
MR. RAHMANI: YES, YOUR HONOR. WE HAVE TURNED IT OVER,
AND I'LL TURN IT OVER DIRECTLY TO MR. PARK AS WELL.
THE COURT: SO MR. JOHNSON HAD IT.
MR. RAHMANI: YES, YOUR HONOR. THIS WAS A
PRE-INDICTMENT CASE SO DISCOVERY WAS PROVIDED AT THE TIME
WAIVER STAGE.
THE COURT: AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS. THERE ISN'T
ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE TO DISCLOSE, SIR?
MR. RAHMANI: I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I'LL CERTAINLY
DOUBLE-CHECK.
THE DEFENDANT: ANY VIDEOS OR AUDIOS OR ANYTHING? I
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HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING.
MR. RAHMANI: YOUR HONOR, THE PRIMARY DOCUMENTS IN THIS
CASE ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS THAT MR. PARK FILED HIMSELF IN THE
CIVIL MATTER, AND THE TESTIMONY THAT HE GAVE IN THAT CIVIL
MATTER, WE PROVIDED THOSE DOCUMENTS AND THAT TRANSCRIPT TO MR.
PARK.
THE COURT: LET ME JUST STOP, MR. JOHNSON, DID YOU
RECEIVE FULL DISCOVERY IN THIS MATTER ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT
GOVERNMENT COUNSEL IS SUGGESTING?
MR. JOHNSON: I RECEIVED I THINK IT WAS 51 PAGES, YES.
THE COURT: AND IS MR. PARK IN RECEIPT OF THAT?
MR. JOHNSON: I E-MAILED IT TO HIM, YES.
THE COURT: OKAY. SO YOU --
THE DEFENDANT: I NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING. HE ASKED
MR. RAHMANI FOR THE DISCOVERY EVIDENCE WHEN I ASKED HIM THAT I
DIDN'T RECEIVE IT BEFORE -- YOU KNOW, AFTER TRYING TO GET ME TO
SIGN A PLEA AGREEMENT.
THE COURT: OKAY, LET'S DO THIS, LET'S -- MR. RAHMANI,
YOU DOUBLE-CHECK ON EVERYTHING. AND MR. JOHNSON, YOU E-MAIL IT
AGAIN TO MR. PARK. EVERYBODY MAKE SURE THAT MR. PARK GETS IT.
I THINK YOU MAY ALREADY HAVE IT, BUT IN AN ABUNDANCE OF
CAUTION --
THE DEFENDANT: I DO NOT HAVE IT.
MR. RAHMANI: YOUR HONOR, I'LL PRODUCE ANOTHER SET THIS
AFTERNOON.
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THE COURT: OKAY, AND SO HE'LL HAVE IT FORTHWITH.
MR. RAHMANI: YES.
THE COURT: OKAY. VERY WELL. SO LET'S SET A MOTION
HEARING ON THE MOTION TO DISMISS.
MY MAXIMUM TRIAL DATE AGAIN, ALEX, WOULD --
THE DEFENDANT: CAN I GIVE YOU THIS BECAUSE I DON'T
KNOW IF YOU RECEIVED A COPY OF WHAT WE FILED TODAY THAT I GAVE
MR. RAHMANI RIGHT NOW. IT IS A MOTION TO DISMISS AND TO QUASH
THE SUMMONS AND COMPLAINT.
THE COURT: I HAVE IT.
THE DEFENDANT: YOU GOT IT, OKAY.
THE COURT: THESE ARE COMING TO ME, MR. PARK, AND MR.
RAHMANI, AND MAYBE DISCREPANCY BACK, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
PROCEED IN SOME FASHION TO MAKE SOME FORWARD MOVEMENT HERE. DO
YOU UNDERSTAND?
MR. RAHMANI: YES, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: I MEAN, THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THE WAY
YOU'RE FILING THE DOCUMENTS THAT CAUSE THEM TO BE
DISCREPANCIES. I CAN'T SIT DOWN AND TELL YOU HOW TO FILE THEM
PROPERLY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S COME TO ME, BUT IT COMES
TO ME WITH A SHEET THAT ASKS ME TO REJECT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT
PROPERLY DONE.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, LET'S START WITH THE TRIAL DATE
AND BACK OUT OF THIS. SO THE TRIAL DATE NEEDS TO BE BY THE
23RD I SAID, CORRECT?
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MR. RAHMANI: YES, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: THE 23RD OF MARCH, WHICH MEANS WE BASICALLY
NEED TO START IT ON MONDAY, THE 19TH OF MARCH, RIGHT, ALEX?
THE CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT, YOUR HONOR, AND YOU ARE
DOUBLE SET.
THE COURT: I'M REAL BUSY THAT DAY, BUT ASSUMING WE GO,
I'LL KEEP THIS ONE. SO LET'S SET THE TRIAL. IS THIS A JURY
TRIAL?
IT'S A JURY RILE TRIAL, RIGHT, MR. PARK?
THE DEFENDANT: YES.
MR. RAHMANI: I DON'T BELIEVE MR. PARK HAS WAIVED RIGHT
TO JURY, SO I DO BELIEVE --
THE COURT: I DON'T BELIEVE SO. SO THIS IS A JURY
TRIAL, ALEX, SET TO BEGIN MONDAY, MARCH THE 19TH, AT 9:00 A.M.
THE DEFENDANT: WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY GRAND JURY
INDICTMENT YET. IS THAT WHAT THIS WAS JUST GIVEN TO ME TODAY
BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. I GUESS THAT'S
WHAT THIS IS. SO YOU'RE GIVING ME ONLY A FEW WEEKS TO GO OVER
ALL THIS DISCOVERY AT THIS LATE OF NOTICE?
THE COURT: WELL, I'M SETTING DATES RIGHT NOW IS WHAT
I'M DOING, AND SO WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO.
THE DEFENDANT: OKAY.
THE COURT: SO TRIAL'S GOING TO BEGIN MARCH 19TH. MR.
RAHMANI, HOW LONG A TRIAL IS THIS? I'M PRETTY QUICK WITH JURY
SELECTION, AND INSTRUCTING, AND ARGUMENT. I WILL SET TIME
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LIMITS ON ARGUMENT. I WILL PERMIT SOME LIMITED VOIR DIRE, IF
REQUESTED. BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK FOR THE GOVERNMENT'S
CASE-IN-CHIEF, SIR?
MR. RAHMANI: YOUR HONOR, NORMALLY I WOULD SAY THIS IS
A TWO-DAY JURY TRIAL MAXIMUM, BUT, GIVEN THESE UNIQUE
CIRCUMSTANCES, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL PROCEED AS QUICKLY AS WE
NORMALLY DO.
THE COURT: SO I'M GOING TO HOLD FOUR DAYS FOR THIS
MATTER.
NOW, MAYBE WE COULD SET A MOTION HEARING TOGETHER WITH
IN LIMINES.
MR. RAHMANI: THAT WOULD WORK, YOUR HONOR.
(DISCUSSION HELD OFF THE RECORD.)
THE COURT: I'M LOOKING AT, COUNSEL, MARCH THE 2ND FOR
MOTIONS AND MOTIONS IN LIMINE.
MR. RAHMANI: THAT WORKS, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: AND WHAT TIME WOULD THAT BE, ALEX?
THE CLERK: 2:00.
THE COURT: AT 2:00 P.M. I WANT ALL MOTIONS, MOTIONS
IN LIMINE, AND OPPOSITIONS, I WANT THEM INTO THE COURT A FULL
WEEK IN ADVANCE OF THE MARCH 2ND HEARING -- THAT GIVES ME
ADEQUATE TIME -- OR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE'LL HAVE A JURY UP
HERE ON MONDAY, THE 19TH, AND BE SET TO GO.
I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYTHING FROM THIS AFTERNOON.
LET ME JUST GO THROUGH BECAUSE I'VE GOT A LOT OF PAPERS HERE.
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I'VE RELIEVED MR. JOHNSON. I'M PERMITTING YOU TO
SELF-REPRESENT. I'VE APPOINTED STAND-BY COUNSEL.
MR. RAHMANI: YOUR HONOR, THE ONLY OUTSTANDING ISSUE IS
JUST TO DISMISS THE INFORMATION CASE WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
THE COURT: OKAY. THE UNDERLYING CASE, WHICH IS THE
5297 CASE, IS DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE, UNDERSCORING THE
FACT THAT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE REFILED IN THE 0494 NUMBER, IF
IT'S TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS MATTER.
SO I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYTHING. THE MOTION HEARING,
THE MOTIONS IN LIMINE, MARCH 2ND AT 2:00 P.M. THE TRIAL BEGINS
MARCH 19TH, JURY TRIAL.
MR. RAHMANI, MR. PARK, EVEN THOUGH I'VE RELIEVED YOU,
MR. JOHNSON, IS THERE ANYTHING ANYBODY CAN THINK OF THAT WE
NEED TO GO OVER? I THINK THIS SETS THIS ON A COURT. IF
ANYTHING COMES UP, SINCE YOU'RE REPRESENTING YOURSELF, YOU CAN
TALK TO MR. RAHMANI, HE CAN TALK TO YOU, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE,
AND WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE.
YOU'LL SEE THAT MR. LEVINE GETS THE FILE?
MR. JOHNSON: I'LL COPY HIM WITH MY E-MAIL.
THE COURT: YOU'LL COPY HIM WITH AN E-MAIL SO HE KNOWS
WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THE COURT WILL NOTIFY HIM AND TELL HIM
HE'S BEEN APPOINTED IN THIS CAPACITY, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
(DISCUSSION OFF THE RECORD.)
THE COURT: OH, THANK YOU. IN ADDITION, BECAUSE THERE
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WERE TWO CASES, THE BOND THAT WAS POSTED IN THE 5297 CASE WILL
CARRY OVER TO THE 0494 CASE. YOU WILL REMAIN ON BOND, MR.
PARK, ON THE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
AND I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING FOR TODAY
UNTIL WE MEET FOR THE MOTION HEARING.
MR. JOHNSON: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. I APPRECIATE YOUR
ASSISTANCE, MR. RAHMANI. MR. PARK, THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF BREAK. WE'LL BE IN RECESS
FOR A FEW MINUTES. THANK YOU.
MR. RAHMANI: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
(THE HEARING CONCLUDED.)
C E R T I F I C A T E
I, GAYLE WAKEFIELD, CERTIFY THAT I AM A DULY
QUALIFIED AND ACTING OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER FOR THE UNITED
STATES DISTRICT COURT, THAT THE FOREGOING IS A TRUE AND
ACCURATE TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCEEDINGS AS TAKEN BY ME IN THE
ABOVE-ENTITLED MATTER ON FEBRUARY 10, 2012; AND THAT THE FORMAT
USED COMPLIES WITH THE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNITED
STATES JUDICIAL CONFERENCE.
DATED:_______________ /S/ GAYLE WAKEFIELD
GAYLE WAKEFIELD, RPR, CRR
OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
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