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Personal Danger Horaries © 2002 J. Lee Lehman, PhD Rules for Danger (Lilly 414) If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. Is the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. Returning from War or Voyage (Lilly 367) If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good with a good planet dignified If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail Disposition of the Moon shows result Evil planets in 8th are not good. Returning from the War (Lilly 367-8) Lord of the Ascendant combust is bad If Lord of 7th be with a good planet, and the Lord of the 1st with a bad one, person doesn’t die, but is impedited Lord of the 1st afflicted by a malefic, but a benefic in the 1st, there will be wounding in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in loss. or in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in wounding. Evil planet or Sun in the 8th, or Sun conjunct Ruler of 7th = death.

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Personal Danger Horaries

© 2002 J. Lee Lehman, PhD

Rules for Danger (Lilly 414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real.

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real.

❚ Is the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune.

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real.

Returning from War or Voyage (Lilly 367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good with a good planet dignified

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good.

Returning from the War (Lilly 367-8)

❚ Lord of the Ascendant combust is bad❚ If Lord of 7th be with a good planet, and the Lord of the

1st with a bad one, person doesn’t die, but is impedited❚ Lord of the 1st afflicted by a malefic, but a benefic in

the 1st, there will be wounding❚ in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in loss.❚ or in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in

wounding.❚ Evil planet or Sun in the 8th, or Sun conjunct Ruler of

7th = death.

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Safe to go on businesstrip? (Lilly 414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. (Mars is separating from the South Node and the Moon is combust.)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. (Does not apply.)

Safe to go on businesstrip? (Slide 2)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. (Mars applies to Jupiter, but is disposed by Saturn)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. (Does not apply)

Safe to go on businesstrip? (Comments)

❚ I have difficulty seeing Mars in Capricorn separating from as being in danger.

❚ The trip itself is ruled by exalted Jupiter, but with right at the cusp

❚ This, taken with the poor 2nd House makes me think this is a bad idea as a business trip.

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Safe to go on businesstrip? (Lilly 367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good (Mars is exalted, separating from )

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail (Venus is peregrine)

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result (Mercury is in Triplicity, but trine )

❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good. (does not apply)

Safe to go on businesstrip? (Lilly 367-8)

❚ None of the considerations apply.

Is it safe to fly? (Lilly 414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. ( is in Triplicity but Retrograde and the Moon is weak.)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. (Does not apply.)

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Is it safe to fly? (Slide 2)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. (applies to and to by antiscion)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. (Does not apply)

Is it safe to fly?(Comments)

❚ This chart doesn’t look unsafe, but like a hassle. This was a family visit, and the problems could be there.

❚ With Mars conjunct the Ascendant, and Neptune in the 1st, there will be problems.

❚ The Querent opted not to go, but the flight had no problems.

Is it safe to fly? (Lilly 367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good (Saturn is mixed: Triplicity but Retrograde)

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail (Moon is weak)

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result (Moon is weak, but applying to benefic first)

❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good. (does not apply)

Is it safe to fly? (Lilly 367-8)

❚ in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in loss. Does Neptune here produce the same result?

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Safe to fly to Montreal?(Lilly 414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. ( is exalted and the Moon is weak.)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. (Does not apply.)

Safe to fly to Montreal?(Slide 2)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. (Does not apply)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. ( applies to by antiscion)

Safe to fly to Montreal?(Comments)

❚ The conjunct the Ascedant doesn’t look like a good idea, along with in 1st.

❚ This was a business trip, and with the 10th House Ruler combust and retrograde (although possibly rendered by ), this is a little iffy. in 12th isn’t great either.

❚ Querent opted not to go. Flight was safe.

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Safe to fly to Montreal?(Lilly 367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good (Jupiter is exalted but in 8th House)

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail (Moon is weak)

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result (Moon is weak)

❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good. (does not apply)

Safe to fly to Montreal?(Lilly 367-8)

❚ or in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in wounding. Here we have Pluto and South Node.

❚ Evil planet or Sun in the 8th, or Sun conjunct Ruler of 7th = death. Here we have Sun conjunct Mercury, Ruler of the 7th.

Will my husband be safe?(Lilly 414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. ( [turned Ascendant Ruler] is in Triplicity and the Moon is weak.)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. (Does not apply.)

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Will my husband be safe?(Slide 2)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. (Does not apply)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. (Does not apply)

Will my husband be safe?(Comments)

❚ Didn’t like in his 1st House. Metaphorically, this comes to his Ascendant in 3° - trip was to last 2 days. Don’t extend the trip!

❚ This was a 3rd House trip for him: hence, there could produce some problems.

❚ This was a business trip, so dignified ruling his 10th was good.

Will my husband be safe?(Lilly 367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good (Moon is weak)

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail (Saturn is in Triplicity, but cadent)

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result (Moon is weak)

❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good. (Neptune)

Will my husband be safe?(Lilly 367-8)

❚ Evil planet or Sun in the 8th, or Sun conjunct Ruler of 7th = death. Neptune is in the 8th; Sun is conjunct Saturn, but out of sign.

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Airline job? Safety? (Lilly414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. ( is weak; the Moon is weak.)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. (Does not apply.)

Airline job? Safety? (Slide2)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. (Sun applies to Jupiter)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. (Sun applies to Mars)

Airline job? Safety?(Comments)

❚ Hard to view this as dangerous with Conjunct Ascendant - but on the other hand, that puts at the Portals of Death.

❚ is a benefic, but it also rules the 8th.❚ She took the job, but left it shortly

thereafter with no consequences for her safety. (Was oto with a 9/11 airline.)

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Airline job? Safety? (Lilly367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good (Sun is weak, in partile trine to )

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail (Saturn is peregrine)

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result (Moon is weak, applying to Jupiter, but in 8th)

❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good. (does not apply)

Airline job? Safety? (Lilly367-8)

❚ If the Lord of the 1st afflicted by a malefic, but a benefic in the 1st, there will be wounding The Sun is just separating from Pluto and applying to Uranus; the North Node is in the 1st House.

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Moscow trip? (Lilly 414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. ( is exalted; the Moon is weak, Void and in the 29th degree.)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. (Does not apply.)

Moscow trip? (Slide 2)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. (does not apply)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. (Mars applies to Jupiter)

Moscow trip? (Comments)

❚ Moon is also Ruler of the 8th, and debilitated.

❚ Bottom line from the trip (2nd) looks mixed - and it was.

Moscow trip? (Lilly 367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good ( is exalted, but will be opposed by )

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail (does not apply)

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result (Moon is weak, combust and in 29th degree)

❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good. (does not apply)

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Moscow trip? (Lilly 367-8)

❚ or in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in wounding. They are both in the 1st.

Job at Pentagon? (Lilly414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. ( is exalted; the Moon is weak.)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. (Does not apply.)

Job at Pentagon? (Slide 2)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. (does not apply)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. (Mars applies to Jupiter)

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Job at Pentagon?(Comments)

❚ This looks much worse than the Moscow chart with the at the Ascendant-Descendant axis

❚ The Moon is in a partile trine to Saturn

Job at Pentagon? (Lilly367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good ( is exalted, but will be opposed by )

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail (does not apply)

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result (Moon is weak, and partile trine Saturn)

❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good. (does not apply)

Job at Pentagon? (Lilly367-8)

❚ or in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in wounding. They are both in 1st. Furthermore, Pluto is conjunct the 1st House cusp.

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Safe on Friday? (Lilly 414)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is unfortunate, the danger is real. ( is in Triplicity; the Moon is weak.)

❚ If the Moon or the Lord of the Ascendant is in the 12th (unless leaving), the danger is real. (Does not apply.)

Safe on Friday? (Slide 2)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Fortunes, then the danger is only apparent, unless received by an Infortune. (applies to by antiscion)

❚ If the Ascendant Ruler applies to Infortunes, then the danger is real. (does not apply)

Safe on Friday?(Comments)

❚ Chart looks fine for safety, but high on the Clueless Scale

❚ Moon in the 8th shows concern aout death, not death itself.

❚ It was safe on Friday.

Safe on Friday? (Lilly 367)

❚ If Lord of Ascendant is strong, outcome is good ( is in Triplicity)

❚ If Lord of 7th be strong, and the Lord of the 1st not, party returns with trevail (does not apply)

❚ Disposition of the Moon shows result (Moon is weak)

❚ Evil planets in 8th are not good. (does not apply)

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Safe on Friday? (Lilly 367-8)

❚ in the 1st, or conjunct Ruler of the 1st results in loss. Neptune and Uranis in the 1st.

Comments on Danger Delineation (Lilly 414)

❚ Having one positive hit is too common to be definitive

❚ Having two hits also does not always produce danger

❚ Probably have to have the whole system to really be convincing about danger.

A Ship at Sea...

❚ For questions about whether a vehicle is safe, use Lilly’s Rules for shipwrecks: Sign ascending and the Moon signify the

Ship; the Ruler of the Ascendant the passengers (p 157)

Not good to have relationship of 1st to 8th, as in malefic in 1st related to 8th or Ruler of 1st in 8th!

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Volvo reliable and safe?

❚ Venus, ruling the Ascendant, is in Libra❚ Jupiter is just rising❚ No malefics in the 1st❚ Saturn is trining Ascendant, but dignified

House safe w/o stormshutters in HS 2001?

❚ Safety of a house is a 4th House matter❚ Using ship at sea idea, Uranus is in the

4th, but otherwise no malefics❚ No malefics aspects the 4th House cusp❚ Moon applies only to a sextile of Mars and

a trine to Uranus - but partile trine Jupiter❚ Saturn, ruling 4th, is dignified