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RICH GALEN

March 13, 1981

We went and had coffee early in the morning.

When Rich came in, he asked Leslie what the news was on the problems.

"Nothing in Ind1.anapoli,s but it was page one in Fort Wayne."

Rich said "So Fort Wayne is ablaze. We've had some week." I said,

"Aren't you glad you have a six year term so that all the crap will die out."

"You are exactly right. Our whole strategy is based on the fact that

we have six years. Dan's first reaction was to hold a press conference, get

all the papers together and deny the whole thing. He was mad as hell. I

tried to calm him down and told him he didn't need to do that. I thought

we could see what happened and that we had plenty of time to deal with it

gradually. The thing first broke in the Wilmington Delaware paper which has

been after Tom Evans. Then not much happened with Tom. Railsback held a

press conference, apologizing, asking his wife to forgive him and promising

to cooperate. On Friday, the dam broke. Between 10 and 5, I had 63 calls

from the press~ On Saturday, I had two calls and this week I have had

very few calls. They shot way up and then right down again. Then Phil

Crane demands an investigational sex for votes in Washington. Thanks a lot.

Phil! So it's still in the papers. Any newspaperman who says he has to talk

to Dan has been allowed to talk with him. We have not announced that everyone

is welcome, but we haven't stopped anyone either. We're trying to steer

a middle course between Railsback's mea culpa and a refusal to talk about it.

(I had mentioned Stewart ~hl(1'\ ) Dan has told the media people everytliing

he knows. And when they come back for a second interview I told them that he

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has told them everything he knows. And he has. I say to these newsmen in

private. "What's with all this righteous indignation. I've seen you guys

on the campaign trail and you're like a bunch of horny shriners. Let's walk

through this thing hypothetically. You go to Florida with some congressmen

for a meeting and the room reservations get screwed up so you have to double

up. You are eating dinner and someone comes by and introduces you to a

beautiful lady friend of his. You say hello, they leave and you say who was that

good looking woman? You don't see them again. Later in the evening you find

out that they are booked into the same house with you. What do you say? Oh,

my god, pack my bags. I'm leaving. Think back to your college days. I've

talked with Dan a lot about it and he didn't have anything to do with the

woman. We're hoping someone will get caught on video tape with his pants

down and then the whole thing will go away. I must say Marilyn has been a

saint through all this. She even offered to testify. 'I can tell them he's

no good after 10:00 p.m.' We have had 7 letters on the subject from the

constituency in one week. But in Washington everyone wants to be Bob Woodward.

Maybe I shouldn't have let the Post reporter in. They had it allover the

front page with pictures on the second page. But we have a long time to deal

with it. That's the difference between Evans and Railsback and us. They had

to do what they did--go on TV and deny it--because they are already running

for reelection."

"We are all learning about the Senate. Everything about the House and

Senate is different. They are like two different countries. It's like going

to the Canadian parliament. The other night I took home the book on Senate

.procedure. Nothing about the procedures are the same. You don't even clear a

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press release over here the way you do in the House. And the demands are

incredible. For me, it's the phone calls. I can't get over the phone calls.

I told the communications people that I want a headset. My arm gets tired

holding the telephone all day. With a headset I could at least type while

I'm on the phone. It affects all of us. Cynthia (Senator's personal

secretary) has to tell Nancy to cut off her calls. She can't even get a letter

typed. Everyone wants to talk to the Senator. One of the decisions every

office has to make is who is going to get through to the Senator--constituents,

for example. Not every constituent who comes through can see the Senator, or

else he'll never do anything else. We talked about it and Dan said he would

set aside some time everyday for constituents on a first come first serve

basis. So we set 4-5 every afternoon and told people that they could come

by then and see the Senator if they wished. Well, that didn't work out,

because there's a basketball game in the House gym every afternoon at that

time. So we made it 5:15 - 6:15. So the constituents came, and on one of

~ r / the first days, they were filling the office and spilling out down the corridor.

Dan came through his private office door and said "What the hell are all those

people doing lined up i~ the corridor. I said, 'those are your constituents.'

You represent eleven times the number you ,",0" VIIt ~vt 1('(.

't.~cf\t Cl d,qy / used to. ~e you used to have ~.

A And the demands on him have not multiplied 11 times, they have multiplied 1000

times. All the trade associations that are interested in the work of his

subcommittee want to see him and have him come to their receptions. Instead

we. -of dealing with 2 TV stations and 3 newspapers, 9fte now deal. with TV stations

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and newspapers. That's just in the state. Newspapers allover the country

" want to write about him, too."

"He loves it. He's getting the feel for the place and digging into his

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committee work. Over in the House, when he saw the first ray of sunshine he'd

be out on the golf course. But he's not doing that. He's had an incredible

amount of information pushed at him and he's trying to absorb it. He's

attending all his meetings. Except for one week of vacation at Thanksgiving

he's been in the office every day. You can see him down on the floor talking

to the other Senators. He's not rushing into foolish things. He's said he's

not going to speak up in the AS Committee for 6 months, while he's learning.

The other day Senator Stennis--the most senior man in the Senate, I guess--

threw his arm around him and told him that he had a great career to look

forward to in the Senate and how lucky he was. I think he feels that way, when

too. His mind is working and he's getting more interested in things than/he

was in the House. When we were campaigning, we didn't think of that. I don't

think we knew what kind of Senator we were foisting on the people of Indiana.

It's a lot more fun getting into office than it is being in office. That's

drudgery. fWM. Frankly, we wondered whether he would take to theJSenate p~e

he got here. But he has. AlrI think we're going to have us a Senator."

U He said, too, with respect to Dan's career. Marilyn has been very

supportive. ~She's very smart, she's a lawyer. She enjoys going to things

1 0k ° 1 h ° f Elo b h T l' ° She l1°kes good'~s l1°ke 1 e spec1a s oW1ngs 0 1za et ay or s mOV1es. -==

that. Why shouldn't she? She's been five years without a husband. She's

been great. But she could bring the whole thing to a screeching halt with

one word."

Re Lugar" relationships - "We've had a few problems with bruised aad egos,

but nothing serious. By March or April, we'll start cutting back our speeches

in the state, because the Lugar campaign will be on. We've had that under-

standing from the first minute we talked about the relationship. Also we

have tried to stay out of each other's committee area. If we want to make a

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statement on foreign affairs we'll put it out under the Armed Services Com-

mittee. If he wants to make a statement about Labor matters, he'll put it

out under the Banking Committee. That way, we'll both keep our expertise,

neither of us will step on the others turf. Since we're bound to disagree

down the road, it's helpful if we don't fight on the same turf."

" He said staff was not settled. Mark Miles went back to Indiana. A

couple of the LA's are in the ~I don't know whether I want to stay in Washington'

syndrome."

Re Lugar staff relationships - "I walked into the Lugar office and said

can anyone find me a senator that looks like Chuck Grassley?" They said

'do you want to hear the jokes about the 19th hole.' 1 said, 'No thanks,

I've got enough troubles. '"

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