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quantum matter on a classical spacetime as a fundamental theory André Großardt Queen’s University Belfast Corfu, 27 September 2017

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quantum matter on a classical spacetimeas a fundamental theory

André GroßardtQueen’s University Belfast

Corfu, 27 September 2017

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quantum matter in the gravitational field

external gravitational field

1/c

G

ℏnonrel. class.mechanics

Newtonian Gravity

Special Relativity

QuantumMechanics

General Relativity

rel. QFT

General Relativity

rel. QFT

QFT on curvedspacetime

Newton + QM→ tested!

?

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quantum matter in the gravitational field

external gravitational field

1/c

G

ℏnonrel. class.mechanics

Newtonian Gravity

Special Relativity

QuantumMechanics

General Relativity

rel. QFT

General Relativity

rel. QFT

QFT on curvedspacetime

Newton + QM→ tested!

?

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quantum matter in the gravitational field

external gravitational field

1/c

G

ℏnonrel. class.mechanics

Newtonian Gravity

Special Relativity

QuantumMechanics

General Relativity

rel. QFT

General Relativity

rel. QFT

QFT on curvedspacetime

Newton + QM→ tested!

?

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quantum matter in the gravitational field

external gravitational field

1/c

G

ℏnonrel. class.mechanics

Newtonian Gravity

Special Relativity

QuantumMechanics

General Relativity

rel. QFT

General Relativity

rel. QFT

QFT on curvedspacetime

Newton + QM→ tested!

?

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quantum matter in the gravitational field

Colella, Overhauser, Werner (1975)▶ external field (Earth)▶ Newtonian gravity

iℏ ψ =

(− ℏ2

2m∇2 −mgx)ψ

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the gravitational field of quantum matter

quantum matter as gravity source

1/c

G

General Relativity

rel. QFT

“QuantumGravity”

???

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the gravitational field of quantum matter

What is the gravitational field of a superposition state?

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solution 1: quantised gravity

In analogy to electrodynamics:The field sourced by a superposition state is itself in a superposition⇒ superposition of two spacetimes

Problems:

▶ Nonrenormalisability of gravity as a field theory:→ gravity must be different in some respect→ there is no fully consistent theory of quantum gravity (yet?)

▶ How to identify points in different spacetimes?→ quantum matter on curved spacetime is not a conceptuallyconsistent theory even in the Newtonian, low energy limit of thedouble slit experiment

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solution 2: semi-classical gravity

▶ Quantum fields living on spacetime and dynamics of spacetimeare two conceptually very different things

▶ Take (classical) GR seriously(and leave it to experiments, at which point it might brake down):spacetime is a 4-dim. manifold with quantum matter living on it

Rμν −12Rgμν︸ ︷︷ ︸

spacetime (class.)

E=

8πGc4 Tμν︸ ︷︷ ︸

matter (quantum)

▶ Quantisation of gravity: spacetime is “quantum” in some wayAt low energies: gμν = ημν + hμν with “quantum field” hμν(x)

▶ Gravitisation of QM: replace Tμν by a classical object, e. g. ⟨Tμν⟩

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newtonian semi-classical gravity

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the schrödinger-newton equation

In the weak-field nonrelativistic limit: ρ = mψ†ψ

Rμν − 12Rgμν =

8π Gc4 ⟨ψ| Tμν |ψ⟩ → ∇2V = 4π G ⟨ψ| ρ |ψ⟩

Hint = − 12∫d3r hμν Tμν → Hint =

∫d3r V ρ

Results in the Schrödinger-Newton equation (here for one particle)

iℏ ψ(t, r) =(− ℏ2

2m∇2 − Gm2∫d3r′ |ψ(t, r

′)|2

|r− r′|

)ψ(t, r)

⇒ Nonlinear Schrödinger equation

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many particles to centre of mass

Realistic systems for testing SN are not single particles:

iℏΨN(rN) =[−

N∑i=1

ℏ2

2miΔri + Vlinear(rN) + VG[ΨN(rN)]

]ΨN(rN)

VG[ΨN(rN)] = −GN∑i=1

N∑j=1

mimj

∫ ∣∣∣ΨN(r′N)∣∣∣2∣∣∣ri − r′j∣∣∣ dV′N

Centre of mass equation (approx.), separation ΨN = ψ⊗ χN−1:

iℏ ψ(t, r) =(

− ℏ2

2M∇2+Vext.lin. − G∫d3r′

∣∣ψ(t, r′)∣∣2 Iρ(r− r′))ψ(t, r)

Iρ(d) =∫d3xd3yρ(x)ρ(y− d)

|x− y| (where ρ is given by∣∣χN−1

∣∣2)9

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experimental tests

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inhibition of free expansion — wide wave-functions

wave-function≫ particle size ⇒ ρ ≈ δ(rcm) ⇒ Iρ(d) ≈ 1/ |d|:

iℏ ψ(t, r) =(− ℏ2

2m∇2 − Gm2∫d3r′ |ψ(t, r

′)|2

|r− r′|

)ψ(t, r)

0.5 1.0 1.5r � Μm

50

100

150

Ρ � mm - 1

t = 40000 s

t = 20000 s

t = 0 s

0.0 0.5 1.0 1.5r � Μm0

50

100

150

200

250

300

Ρ � mm - 1

t = 40000 s

t = 20000 s

t = 0 s

ρ = 4π r2 |ψ|2 for masses of 7× 109 u and 1010 u

Problem: time scale (order of hours!)11

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inhibition of free expansion

For narrower wave-functions (here O(10 nm) ≲ particle size):approximate ODE (assume: Gaussian wave-packet remains Gaussian)

d3

dt3 ⟨r2⟩ = −3ω2

SN f(⟨r2⟩)ddt ⟨r

2⟩

0 50 100 150 200 250 300t / s

0.005

0.010

0.015

0.020

0.025

0.030

Δ < r 2 > / %

0 200 400 600 800 1000t / s

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1.0

1.5

Δ < r 2 > / %

rel. deviation from standard Schrödinger evolution for m = 109 u and 1010 u⇒ 1% deviation after 200 s → maybe in space?

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tests with optomechanics i.) spectrum

ℏω0

ℏω0

without self-gravity narrow wavefunction intermediate wavefunction

ωTransition

2ω0

ω0ω0 + Δω

2 ω0 + 2 Δω

ω0 + Δω01

ω0 + Δω12

ω0 + Δω02

~(n+½)/ω0

n = 0

n = 1

n = 2

~M5/3

~M5/3

~(n+½)/ω0

~(n+½)/ω0

~fn/ω0

~fn/ω0

~fn/ω0

~M5/3

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tests with optomechanics ii.) squeezed state

Yang et al. PRL 110 (2013) 170401

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localised states in crystalline matter

d

R

σ

a

ρnucl

ρ

▶ the relevant radius is σ(localisation of the nuclei)

▶ effective mass density ρnucl∼ 103ρ

▶ ωSN =√

Gmatomσ3 ∼

√Gρnucl

∼ 1 Hz for osmium

Need ground state cooling for:mass ∼ 1015 u (μm sized) particle

trapped at O(10Hz)

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conclusions

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what would we test?

▶ Testing the Schrödinger-Newton equation is feasible▶ However, only tests the specific semi-classical coupling

Rμν −12Rgμν =

8π Gc4 ⟨Tμν⟩

▶ Other approaches for semi-classical coupling possible:∙ Source gravity from stochastic CSL collapse events1

Rμν −12Rgμν =

8π Gc4

(⟨Tμν⟩+ δTμν

)→ yields linear master equation (no superluminal signalling problem)→ experimental predictions less clear (has free parameters)→ stochastic field of unexplained origin

∙ Stochastic gravity2

1 Tilloy & Diósi, PRD 93, 024026 (2016)2 Hu & Verdaguer, Living Rev. Relativ. 11, 3 (2008)

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Thank You!

Questions?

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additional slides

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difficulties with semi-classical gravity

▶ An instantaneous collapse violates divergence freedom ofEinstein’s equations

▶ A macroscopic superposition of here and there “collapses”in the middle (rather than 50:50 here or there)

▶ With the standard collapse: faster-than-light signalling

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difficulties with semi-classical gravity

▶ An instantaneous collapse violates divergence freedom ofEinstein’s equations

▶ A macroscopic superposition of here and there “collapses”in the middle (rather than 50:50 here or there)

▶ With the standard collapse: faster-than-light signalling

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difficulties with semi-classical gravity

▶ An instantaneous collapse violates divergence freedom ofEinstein’s equations

▶ A macroscopic superposition of here and there “collapses”in the middle (rather than 50:50 here or there)

▶ With the standard collapse: faster-than-light signalling

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inhibition of free expansion, scaling law

In the wide wave function limit: one-particle SN equation

0.5 1.0 1.5r � Μm

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Ρ � mm - 1

t = 40000 s

t = 20000 s

t = 0 s

0.0 0.5 1.0 1.5r � Μm0

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t = 40000 s

t = 20000 s

t = 0 s

ρ = 4π r2 |ψ|2 for masses of 7× 109 u and 1010 u

▶ For a mass of ∼ 1010 u and a wave packet size of about 500nm asignificant deviation is visible after several hours

▶ Scaling law: with ψ(t, x) for mass m, a solution for mass μm isobtained as μ9/2ψ(μ5t,μ3x) ⇒ e. g. 1011 u at 0.5 nm wouldshow an effect in less than a second but must remain in widewave function regime (Os at 1010 u has 100nm diameter)

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realistic model for time evolution

Assumption: a Gaussian wave packet stays approximately Gaussian

The free spreading of a Gaussian wave packet and spherical particlecan be approximated by a third order ODE for the width u(t) = ⟨r2⟩(t):

...u(t) = −3ω2SN f(u(t)) u(t)

with ωSN =√Gm/R3 ∼

√Gρ, initial conditions

u(0) = u0 , u(0) = 0 , u(0) = 9ℏ22m2 u0

−ω2SN g(u0)u0 ,

and the functions (with u in units of R)

f(u) = erf(√

3u

)+

√u3π

(u− 7

2 − 324− 162u− 35u4 + 70u570u4 e−3/u

)

g(u) = erf(√

3u

)+

√u3π

(23u− 3+ 486+ 105u3 − 70u4

105u3 e−3/u)

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short time expansion

u(t) ≈ u0 +12 u(0) t

2

▶ exact without self-gravity term▶ deviates from usual evolution by dependence on g(u0) in

u(0) = 9ℏ22m2 u0

−ω2SN g(u0)u0

▶ stationarity condition u(0) = 0 yields (pessimistic) estimate forthe scales where self-gravity becomes important

▶ Assume osmium particle initially trapped with ω0⇒ characteristic time scale τ = ω−1

0 , u0 = 3ℏ τ/m▶ u(0) = 0 determines characteristic (m, τ) graph▶ limit g(u) → 1 for u→ 0 yields τ(m) = const. for large m

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evolution time and mass requirements

green line intuitively: free wave-function would have increased by25% but maintains its width due to self-gravity 24

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mass density dependence of sn

For a homogeneous sphere:

Iρ(d) = −M2

R ×

{65 − 2

( d2R)2

+ 32( d2R)3 − 1

5( d2R)5

(d ≤ 2R)Rd (d > 2R)

▶ different behaviour for narrow and wide wave functions▶ enhancement of O(103) for narrow wf. in crystalline matter

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material choices

ωSN =

√Gmatomσ3

Material matom / u ρ / g cm-3 σ / pm ωSN / s-1

Silicon 28.086 2.329 6.96 0.096Tungsten 183.84 19.30 3.48 0.695Osmium 190.23 22.57 2.77 0.996Gold 196.97 19.32 4.66 0.464

Note: ωSN enters squared in the evolution equation⇒ osmium two orders of magnitude better than silicon

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experimental setup (proposal)

xz

y

b c

e

d

a

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