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QuestionsandAnswersAboutTMS(TranscranialMagnetic
Stimulation)
ByLouisB.Cady,M.D.founderandCEO,CadyWellnessInstitutewww.indianatms-cadywellness.com
www.cadywellness.com
@LouisCadyMD@TMS4depressionCadyWellnessInstituteFanpagewww.facebook.com/cadywellness
1. WhatisTMS?
a. TMSisarguablythebestandmosteffectivetreatmentformajorclinicaldepressionanditworkswithminimalsideeffectsandno
medicationswhichhavetobetakenintoyourbody.
b. ItwasFDAapprovedthreeyearsago,andisindicatedforuseafteronefailedtrialofanadequateantidepressant.
i. Theadvantageofstartingafteronefailedtrialsisthatdepressioncanberesistanttotreat,andthebettingoddsare
thatforeveryonechangeofmedicationfromthefirstone,
youroddsofsuccessgodown
1. (Odds:a. 27.5%cureforfirsttreatmentb. 21.2%afterfirsttreatmentc. 16.2%aftersecondtreatmentd. 6.9%afterthreeprevioutreatments)
2. Howdoesitwork.a.
TMSworkslikechargingacordlesstoothbrush,usingamagneticfieldinthetreatmentheadofthedevice(likethechargingbaseofthe
electrictoothbrush)toinduceanelectriccurrenttoflowinyourbrain
cellsrightundertheskull(orlikeelectricityflowingtothebatteryin
thehandleofthetoothbrush).
i. ThisusesMichaelFaradaysprincipleofelectromagneticinduction.
b. Thesmallcurrentflowthatisinducedinbraincellscausesalocalreleaseofneurotransmittersparticularlyserotonin,andalsohas
effectsatmoredistantlocationsinthebrainviarelaystations.
c. Inthisway,themagnetonthesideofthepatientsheadhasimmediate,localeffects,aswellasdeepbraineffects.d. Itisthelocalanddistantreleaseofneurotransmittersthatcausesthetreatmenteffect.
3. Howlongdothetreatmentstake:a. AfullcourseofTMS,doneaspertheFDAlastfor30treatments,
givenM-F,sixweeksinarow.
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b. Eachstandardtreatmentlasts37minutes.
4. Aretheresideeffects?a. Therearenosignificantsideeffects.Inthefirstweek,thereisa
littlelocalscalppainandirritation,aswellasthesensationofa
headacheunderthetreatmentcoilallofwhichresolvebythesecondweekoftreatment.
b. Therearenosideeffectsinthebody,suchasbeingdopedup,havingadrymouth,orhavingsexualdysfunctionallcommon
sideeffectsofantidepressants.
5. Howwelldoesitwork?a. TMSappearstobeaseffectiveasthebesttreatmentin
psychiatry,withnoneofthesideeffects.Itdoestakelongerto
work,however.
6. Howsoondopeopleseeresults?a. Somepeopleseeresultsinaslittleas12weeks.b. Mostpeoplefeelsomethingby23weeks.c. Almosteveryoneisfeelingbetterbythefourthweekoftreatment.
7. WhenshouldTMSbeused?a. Thelabelingisafteronefailedtrialofanantidepressant.Inpractice,
becauseoftheexpenseofthetreatment,itshouldbeconsideredafter
23failedtrialsofantidepressantswheretheyeitherhavent
worked,orhavestoppedworking.
8. DoyoudoitdifferentlyatCadyWellnessInstitutethanintheclinicaltrials,andifso,why?
a. Yes.b. Theclinicaltrialsweredonetoestablishthatthistreatmentworked
betterthanplacebo,orfaketreatment.Assuch,theonlythingthat
wascaredaboutwassettingituptotellthetwodifferenttreatmentsapart.
i. Tothisend,allantidepressantswerestoppedtotallybeforethetrialbegan(puttingthepatientsatriskofslippingevenfurtherintodepressionbeforetheclinicaltrialbegan).
ii. Further,thetreaterwasforbideentotalktothepatientforfearofcontaminatingtheeffectsofthetreatment.Theonlyrequirementwasthatthepatienthadtostayaway.
c. Howwedoit:i. IkeepthepatientonbaselinemedicationwhilestartingTMSto
avoidslippagepriortotreatment.
ii. Thepatientisengagedinvigoroustalktherapybythetreatingstaffwhilereceivingtreatments.Thistakesadvantageofthe
extra-receptivestateofthebrainduringtreatments.
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iii. Wealsopayattentiontothyroid,adrenal,andsexhormonesaswellasallmedicalissues,andeitherstabilizethemorreferthe
patientforstabilizationbeforeandduringtreatment.
iv. Inthisway,weareusingafullcourtpresswhereliterallyeverythingthatcanbedoneforthepatientisbeingdone.
9. Whyistreatingdepressionimportant?
a. Misery:i. Patientstellmeitslikebeinginthepit.ii. Theveryfactofexistenceistremendouslypainful.iii. Patientslosetheirfamilies,theirjobs,andtheirlives.iv. Theycanbecomemiserablepeoplesunkintothemselves.
b. Tragedy:i. Depressionisrelativelyeasytotreatwiththemedicationswehavenowandastepbystepplantogetpeoplebetter.
c. Stats/economic:i. ProjectedtobeleadingcauseofdisabilityinUSii. Amongthetopthreeworkplaceproblemsiii. FirstChicagoCorporationstudydepressionaccountedfor
morethanhalfofallmedicalplandollarspaidformentalhealth.
iv. Indianaranks39outof51states(39thfromthebestorleastdepressed,11fromthebottom).
d. (suicideand7rule):i. 7%ofthepopulationwillhavedepressioneachyearii. 1outof7previously(now1outof6)peoplewill
experiencedepressionatsomepointintheirlivs(National
instituteofMentalHealthStudy)iii. 1out7withRECURRENTmajordepressioncommitsuicideiv. 70%ofsuicideshavedepressionv. 70%ofsuicidesseetheirprimaryMDswithin6weeksof
theirsuicide.
FormoreinformationcontactthestaffatCadyWellnessInstituteat
frontdesk@cadywellness.comorvisittheirwebsites.TheTMSwebsiteiswww.indianatms-cadywellness.com.Thanksforreading!