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PRINCETON CONFERENCE

May 20, 2009

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FIRST QUESTIONFIRST QUESTION

Is Stuart Altman really a Fascist?

The right-wing blogosphere has labeled him thus because he defends cost effectiveness analysis.

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STUART, THE COMMIE ProPAC APPARATCHIK

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WORKING UNDERCOVER

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FINANCING HEALTH SERVICES

Uwe E. Reinhardt,Princeton University

The 16th Annual Princeton Conference

“How Will We Meet the Health Service Needs of an Aging America?”

May 20-21, 2009

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Session III: Financing health services: Current and Future trends

In the United States, we know that most people ultimately rely on Medicare and Medicaid for health services and long term care. Based on current CMS projections, the current financial model is not sustainable. What are the most reasonable options for financial reform? Are bundled payments the way of the future? Can we look to the private sector for help? What has the VA done and can we learn anything from their experience?

THE ASSIGNMENT TO OUR PANEL:

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I. THE SUSTAINABILITY OF MEDICARE AND MEDICAIDI. THE SUSTAINABILITY OF MEDICARE AND MEDICAID

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November, 2007

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2050

38%

SOURCE: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8758/11-13-LT-Health.pdf

13%

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REAL GDP PER CAPITA 2008 AND 2050 (1% Annual Growth)

$0

$10,000

$20,000

$30,000

$40,000

$50,000

$60,000

$70,000

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REA

L G

DP

PER

CA

PITA

NON-MEDICARE&MEDICAID MEDICARE&MEDICAID

$47,500

$72,200

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SOURCE: CMS Data & Statistics.

y = 16575e0.0198x

R² = 0.9932

$15,000

$20,000

$25,000

$30,000

$35,000

$40,000

65 70 75 80 85 90 95 00 5

REAL GDP PER CAPITA 1965-2007

Implies 2% annual growth

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REAL GDP PER CAPITA 2008 AND 2050 (1.5% Annual Growth)

$0

$10,000

$20,000

$30,000

$40,000

$50,000

$60,000

$70,000

$80,000

$90,000

$100,000

2008 2050

NON-MEDICARE & MEDICAID MEDICARE & MEDICAID

$47,500

$88,850

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MY CONCLUSION

I take it that by “sustainability” we do not mean “economic sustainability” but “political sustainability”, that is, willingness to pay taxes to care for the health care of the elderly.

Or do we mean by “sustainability” that we cannot afford anymore the “overuse, misuse and fraud” we believe is rampant in US health care – for old and young?

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0%

10%

20%

30%

40%

50%

60%

70%

80%

1 6 11 16 21 26 31 36 41 46 51 56 61 66 71 76 81 86 91 96

YEARS AFTER 2007

% O

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d = 1% d = 2.5

PROJECTED U.S. HEALTH SPENDING AS PERCENT OF GDP

Health spending grows 2.5% points faster than the rest of GDP

Health spending grows 1% point faster than the rest of GDP

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Secretary of HHS David Petreaus

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II. THE FINANCING OF HEALTH CAREII. THE FINANCING OF HEALTH CARE

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TAXESTAXES

WAGEWAGE

CUTSCUTS

INSURANCEINSURANCE PREMIUMSPREMIUMS

FEEFEE--FOR

FOR--SERVIC

E

SERVICE

CAPITATIONCAPITATION

BUDGETS

BUDGETS

ROAD MAP FOR FINANCING HEALTH CAREROAD MAP FOR FINANCING HEALTH CARE

User fees (Out of Pocket Spending)User fees (Out of Pocket Spending)

BUNDLED BUNDLED

PAYMENTSPAYMENTS

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TAXESTAXES

WAGEWAGE

CUTSCUTS

INSURANCEINSURANCE PREMIUMSPREMIUMS

FEEFEE--FOR

FOR--SERVIC

E

SERVICE

CAPITATIONCAPITATION

BUDGETS

BUDGETS

ROAD MAP FOR FINANCING HEALTH CAREROAD MAP FOR FINANCING HEALTH CARE

User fees (Out of Pocket Spending)User fees (Out of Pocket Spending)

BUNDLED BUNDLED

PAYMENTSPAYMENTS

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III. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREIII. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREA. Medicare: the A. Medicare: the ““big dumb price fixer.big dumb price fixer.””

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Relative Profitability across DRGsCardiac DRGs

-15

-10

-5

0

5

10

15

20 DRG 104DRG 105DRG 107DRG 109DRG 516DRG 517DRG 518DRG 116DRG 121DRG 122DRG 127DRG 138

Percent Expected Profitability

DRG

Surgical DRGs Medical DRGs

Source: MedPAC

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III. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREIII. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREA. Medicare: the A. Medicare: the ““big dumb price fixer.big dumb price fixer.””

B. Private insurers: Smart price negotiators?B. Private insurers: Smart price negotiators?

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III. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREIII. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREA. Medicare: the A. Medicare: the ““big dumb price fixer.big dumb price fixer.””

B. Private insurers: Smart price negotiators?B. Private insurers: Smart price negotiators?

B. The new panacea: Bundled paymentsB. The new panacea: Bundled payments

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Rummaging through the Prometheus Payment® Inc. website quickly makes it clear that developing Evidence Based Case Reimbursement (ECRs) payments is a technically difficult as well as politically difficult.

Bundled payments are designed to trigger clinical integration of the delivery of care across ambulatory and inpatient sites.

But that implies a redistribution of cherished professional and economic privilege.

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EXAMPLE

Bundling radiologists, anesthesiologists and pathologists (the RAPs) as well as convalescent care into the DRG payments to hospitals.

How easy would that be?

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III. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREIII. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREA. Medicare: the A. Medicare: the ““big dumb price fixer.big dumb price fixer.””

B. Private insurers: Smart price negotiators?B. Private insurers: Smart price negotiators?

B. The new panacea: Bundled paymentsB. The new panacea: Bundled payments

C. Clinically Integrated Health CareC. Clinically Integrated Health Care

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HEALTH “SYSTEMS” AS A SET OF SILOS

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

AMBULATORY

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

INPATIENT

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

NURSING HMHM

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

HOME CARE

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

OTHER

FROM A TALK GIVEN 15 YEARS AGO:

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LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

AMBULATORY INPATIENT NURSING HM HOME CARE OTHER

CONSOLIDATION JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT

INTEGRATED LEGAL STRUCTURE

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HARVESTING A LITTLE “SYNERGISM”

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

AMBULATORY INPATIENT NURSING HM HOME CARE OTHER

INTEGRATED LEGAL STRUCTURE

Firing a few hapless accountants

INTEGRATED ADMINISTRATIVE STRUCTURE (INCL. ACCOUNTING)

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LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

AMBULATORY INPATIENT NURSING HM HOME CARE OTHER

INTEGRATED LEGAL STRUCTURE

INTEGRATED ADMINISTRATIVE STRUCTURE (INCL. ACCOUNTING)

HARVESTING MORE SIGNIFICANT “SYNGERISM”Eliminating duplicative clinical programs

Creating market muscle (monopoly power)

INTEGRATED ECONOMIC STRUCTURE (INCL. MARKETING)

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LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

LEGAL

ADMIN.

ECONOMIC

CLINICAL

AMBULATORY INPATIENT NURSING HM HOME CARE OTHER

INTEGRATED LEGAL STRUCTURE

INTEGRATED ADMINISTRATIVE STRUCTURE (INCL. ACCOUNTING)

INTEGRATED ECONOMIC STRUCTURE (INCL. MARKETING)

ATTEMPTING THE REAL McCOY:

Genuine, patient-focused clinical integration

CLINICAL CLINICAL CLINICAL CLINICAL CLINICALGENUINE, PATIENT- FOCUSED CLINICAL INTEGRATION

So far this is mainly a blueprint.So far this is mainly a blueprint.

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III. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREIII. PAYING THE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CAREA. Medicare: the A. Medicare: the ““big dumb price fixer.big dumb price fixer.””

B. Private insurers: Smart price negotiators?B. Private insurers: Smart price negotiators?

B. The new panacea: Bundled paymentsB. The new panacea: Bundled payments

C. Clinically Integrated Health CareC. Clinically Integrated Health Care

D. A Modest ProposalD. A Modest Proposal

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A MODEST PROPOSAL

1. Require that hospitals use the DRG system as a relative value scale for all patients.

2. Allow hospitals to set their own conversion ratios.

3. Require hospitals to charge the same fees to all payers.

4. Start bundling in the RAPs and convalescent care.

5. With most of inpatient care bundled in this way, expand the system to embrace more and more of care in other setting.

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If you think this would be politically too difficult, what makes you think imposing bundled payments on the American health system – that collection of separate fiefdoms -- would be any easier?

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Mazel tov!

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