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    1 Xanya Karda, Ha`dfjrnda? ]binbxiat, Karhc 16, ?7728 3587 a.k.92 YCB HJR_Y5 Mjji kjrndnm.6 HJRNXB@ AY HJRNXB@ YAO@B5 #Dn ndxjn$= Mjji kjrndnm, Tjr Cjnjr.3 YCB ER_T5 #Dn ndxjn$ Mjji kjrndnm.

    4 YCB HJR_Y5 Tj kat wrjhbbi.17 K_. XANMB_5 Kat D wrjhbbi, Tjr Cjnjr.11 YCB HJR_Y5 Tbx.1? K_. XANMB_5 Jlat. Ycanl tj. D hj`iny18 cbar tj. D axxkb tjr kdhrjwcjnbx jn.19 YCB HJR_Y5 D exy yrnbi dy jn. Han tj12 cbar kb jlat.16 K_. XANMB_5 Tbx. Ycanl tj.1=13 XYBVB _JOB@14 Cavdnm obbn wrbvdjx`t x}jrn, rbxkbi ycb?7 xyani ani ybxydfdbi frycbr ax fj``j}x5?1?? H_JXX+BSAKDNAYDJN #Hjnydnbi$?8 OT K_. XANMB_5?9 Q. Xbrmbany _job`, tj }brb mjdnm yj `dxybn yj?2 yawbx ani hjkwarb ycbk yj ycb yranxhrdwy jr ij?6 xjkbycdnm `axy ndmcy. Idi tj cavb a hcanhb yj i

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    j?= ycay.?3 A. D }bny acbai ani D `jjlbi jvbr ycb ??9=

    1 yranxhrdwyx jf Ibybhydvb Ub`dxx dnybrvdb} ++? Q. Tbx.8 A. ++ jlat. ++ rbmaridnm ycb ++ Eanart 14yc.9 Q. Hjrrbhy.2 A. Ani D }ax njy wrbxbny irdnm ycay, xj kt6 ycdnm dx D ycdnl Ibybhydvb Ub`dx }j`i ob ao`b yj

    = xcbi kjrb `dmcy jn ycay ycan kb.

    3 Q. Ani cbx mjdnm yj ob cbrb xjjn, D axxkb.4 A. Hjrrbhy.17 Q. Ycb yranxhrdwy ijbx xcj}, cj}bvbr, ycay tj11 }brb ycbrb. Ani tjr wjxdydjn dx tj }brb ycbrbani1? ycbn `bfy.18 A. Kt wjxdydjn dx D }ax ycbrb irdnm ycb19 vdb}dnm jf ycb vdibj. Ani }cbn ycb dnybrvdb}x yjjl12 w`ahb }dyc ycb dnidvdia` hcd`irbn, D rbkadnbi

    16 jyxdib ycb rjjk }cd`b Kr. Ujnbn ani Ibybhydvb Ub`dx1= hjnihybi ycb dnybrvdb}x }dyc ycb ldix.13 Q. Ani Kr. Xnbiijn ax }b``< dx ycay hjrrbhy.14 A. Cb }ax ++ cb }ax dn ani jy ax }b``. Cb }ax?7 dn ani jy, tbx.?1 Q. A`` rdmcy. ]b`` ya`l yj Ibybhydvb Ub`dx?? aojy ycay.?8 @by kb axl tj df tj cai a hcanhb yj `jjl?9 ay ycb jycbr ycdnmx ycay tj }brb mjdnm yj `jjlay.?2 Tj }brb mjdnm yj `jjl ay ++ jr `dxybn yj Iavb``dnx?6 yawb. Ij tj rbha`` ycay.?= A. Jlat. D }bny jvbr cbr yranxhrdwyx kjrb dn?3 ibyad`. ??93

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    1 Q. Jlat.? A. Xj df tj han rbfrbxc kt kbkjrt rbmaridnm8 bsahy`t }cay cawwbnbi.9 Q. Ycayx fdnb. Di axl ycay tj `jjl ay wamb

    2 ?3 jf Iavb``dnx yranxhrdwy, ani ++6 A. Jlat. Tjrb ya`ldnm jn ycb dndyda` jnb,= rdmcy, Kr. Xanmbr. Ycb E`t dnybrvdb}.3 Q. @by kb exy xbb cbrb, obhaxb ycb njyb xatx4 wamb ?3. Yj yb`` tj ycb yryc, nj} D ijny lnj}17 }cdhc jnb dy }ax. @by kb exy `jjl cbrb. D ycdnl

    11 dy }ax ycb xbhjni jnb.1? A. Xbhjni dnybrvdb}.

    18 Q. Cj`i jn. Ijny mj ant}cbrb tby.19 Nj, D ycdnl dy }ax ycb fdrxy jnb.12 A. Dk jn wamb ?3 jn ycb dndyda` dnybrvdb}.16 Q. Jlat. Dk `jjldnm ay tbxybriatx1= yranxhrdwy, ani ycbrb kxy cavb obbn ++ jlat. Dk13 xjrrt, D kdxrbai dy. Dyx wamb ?9. Ycayx }ct D14 hj`iny fdni dy.?7 Dy }ax `dnb ?3 jf ycb ++ jf tbxybriatx?1 yranxhrdwy, oy dyx wamb ?9 jf ycb jnb Dk axld

    nm?? tj yj `jjl ay rdmcy nj}. Ycayx Iavb``dnx ++ tbx.?8 Ycbrb dy dx.?9 A. Wamb ?9 jn ycb dndyda` dnybrvdb}.?2 Q. Ycayx hjrrbhy.?6 A. Ycayx }cbrb D ak.?= Q. A`` rdmcy. Ani ij tj rbkbkobr ++ tbxybriat?3 D axlbi tj df Iavb``dn yj`i tj ycay Mavdn aniXyar ??94

    1 yj`i cbr ycb xyjrdbx, ani tj xadi ycay }ax yrb.

    ? Ani ycbn D axlbi df xcb cai yj`i tj, Tbac, dyx

    8 `dlb jnb yb``x kb ani ycb jycbr jnb amrbbx yj dy.

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    9 Ani D ob`dbvb tj xadi tj cai yj rbfrbxc tjr2 rbhj``bhydjn bdycbr ot `dxybndnm yj ycb yawb jr6 rbvdb}dnm ycb yranxhrdwy dn jribr yj ibybrkdnb df

    = ycayx }cay xcb, dn fahy, xadi.3 A. Tbx, Dk `jjldnm ay ycay rdmcy nj}, ani ycay4 dx, dn fahy, }cay xcb xadi.17 Q. Jlat. Ani Ibybhydvb Ub`dx, dn tjr11 wrbxbnhb, jn ycay jhhaxdjn + ycdx obdnm ycb =*=*781? yranxhrdwy + jn ycay jhhaxdjn, Ibybhydvb Ub`dx xadi,18 Xj arb ycbt yjmbycbr }cbn ycbt yb`` tj ycdx.

    Ani19 Iavb``dn xatx, Tbac, kjxy jf ycb ydkb.12 Ani Ibybhydvb Ub`dx xatx, Kjxy jf ycb ydkb.16 Jlat.1= Dx ycay }cay ahya``t yranxwdrbi dn ycay13 dnybrvdb}.14 A. Tbx, dy dx.?7 Q. Nj}, D a`xj axlbi tj df Iavb``dn cai ++ ay?1 xjkb wjdny dn ycb dnybrvdb} cai yj`i tj ycay xcb

    ?? }ax a`}atx ot cbrxb`f ay ycb ranhc, ani xcb }axnjy?8 a``j}bi yj ob }dyc cbr kjycbr. Ani tj xadi tj?9 }brb mjdnm yj hcbhl ycb yranxhrdwy yj xbb df ycayx?2 }cay xcb xadi.?6 Ani D lnj} tjrb mjdnm yj axl kb fjr a wamb?= jn ycay, ani obxy `adi w`anx ++?3 A. ]b``, D }bny jvbr ojyc jf kt dnybrvdb}x }dyc??27

    1 cbr, ycb dndyda` ani a`xj ycb fj``j}+w. Ani df tj? han idrbhy kb yj a wamb }cbrb dy xyaybx ycay, D8 }j`i awwrbhdayb dy, obhaxb D hj`i njy fdni dy,

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    9 }cbrb xcb xadi ycay xcb }axny a``j}bi yj xbb cbr

    2 kjycbr. D fjni xjkbycdnm ycay ++6 Q. A`` rdmcy.= A. ++ }ax h`jxb yj ycay.

    3 Q. ]cay wamb idi tj fdni ycbrb. Tj han cb`w4 kb jn ycay. Cj} aojy ycay.17 A. Dk yrtdnm yj fdni dy ktxb`f amadn. Dy kat11 cavb obbn jn ycb fj``j}+w. D ycjmcy D cai dy1? karlbi, oy D ijny. Oy D idi njy fdni dy dn18 bdycbr jnb, }cbrb xcb xyaybi ycay xcb }axny ao`b yj19 xbb cbr kjk.12 Q. Jlat. Oy xcb xadi xjkbycdnm `dlb ycay,

    16 ycay xcb }ax ++ xcb }ax njy }dyc cbr kjk kjxy jfycb1= ydkb.13 A. Nj, }cay xcb xadi }ax, dx ycay dy }ax vbrt14 xb`ijk ycay xcb xa} cbr orjycbrx.?7 Q. Jlat.?1 A. Ycay xcb idi njy xbb ycbk }cd`b ay ycb?? ranhc. Vbrt xb`ijk idi xcb xbb ycbk, obhaxb ycbt?8 }brb }dyc Kdhcab` ani ycbt }brb }dyc bahc jycbr.

    ?9 Q. A`` rdmcy. Cj`i jn jnb xbhjni. @by kb hjkb?2 oahl yj ycay, ani D`` xbb df D han fdni a obyybr?6 qjyb fjr tj jn ycay, jr a wamb jn ycay. D }anyyj

    ?= ij jnb jycbr ycdnm cbrb }dyc tj, df D han.?3 Dx ycdx tjr }dynbxx. ??21

    1 K_. XNBIIJN5 Kt }dynbxx.? K_. XANMB_5 Jlat. Dk xjrrt.8 Tjr Cjnjr, kat D awwrjahc ycb }dynbxx.9 YCB HJR_Y5 Tbx.2 K_. XANMB_5 Ani Di `dlb yj cavb ycdx6 ijhkbny karlbi nbsy dn jribr. Ani bvbn df }b cai

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    = xjkb o`anlx ycbrb, df dyx a`` rdmcy }dyc ycb h`brl,3 wbrcawx }b hj`i kalb ycdx 2786, xj dy }d`` mj }dyc4 Xbrmbany _job`x jycbr bscdody.

    17 Dx ycay rdmcy.11 YCB HJR_Y5 Tbx. Dk }adydnm fjr ycb h`brl1? yj yb`` kb, obhaxb D nbvbr lnj} }cay bscdodyx18 tjvb karlbi ycay D ijny lnj} aojy. D jn`t lnj}19 ycb jnbx ycay tjvb karlbi.12 YCB H@B_L5 Ycayx fdnb.16 YCB HJR_Y5 Ycayx a mjji nkobr.1= K_. XANMB_5 Jlat. Ycanl tj.

    13 YCB HJR_Y5 2786.14 K_. XANMB_5 ]dyc ycb Hjryx wbrkdxxdjn,?7 Kr. Xnbiijn cax nj joebhydjn yj kt wyydnm a o`anl?1 vbrxdjn jf ycdx ++?? YCB HJR_Y5 A`` rdmcy.?8 K_. XANMB_5 ++ ycdx hcrjnj`jmt w jn ycb ++?9 ani }cayx jn ycb jvbrcbai dx }cay dx a`xj karlbi ax?2 2786, oy ycb ahya` bscdody Dk mjdnm yj cani y

    j?6 ycb }dynbxx, df D kat.?= YCB HJR_Y5 Cj} ij tj }any ycb rbhjri yj?3 rbf`bhy }cay ycay bscdody dx. ]cay ij tj }any yj ??2?

    1 ha`` dy.? K_. XANMB_5 Dyx a ydkb`dnb frjk Fborart 18 yj Karhc 18.9 YCB HJR_Y5 Ycanl tj.2 K_. XANMB_5 Ycanl tj.6 K_. XNBIIJN5 Ojo, ij tj cawwbn yj cavb a= hjwt fjr x. Ycanl tj.3 Q. OT K_. XANMB_5 Jlat. Xbrmbany _job`,4 tjvb cai a hcanhb yj `jjl ay ycay fjr a kjkbny.

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    17 A. Tbx, D cavb.11 Q. ]cay tj cavb dn tjr cani ++ obhaxb tj1? cavbny }rdyybn jn dy tby. Dvb mjy dy jn ycb18 ojari. Ycbrb arb ycrbb iaybx ycay arb ytwbi dn jn

    19 ycdx ydkb`dnb. Jnb dx ++12 Han D ojrrj} ycb wjdnybr, df tj cavb dy.16 K_. JSKAN5 Ojo. _dmcy ycbrb.1= K_. XANMB_5 Jc, }b cavb jr j}n. Jlat.13 Ycanlx, }cjbvbr orjmcy ycay.14 Q. Jlat. Jnb ++ ani D ijny }any yj xcdnb ycdx?7 dn ycb hjry rbwjrybrx btbx. Xj }brb jlat, rdmcy.?1 Dk mjdnm frjk ycb yjw. D ijny }any yj ij

    ?? xjkbycdnm }rjnm cbrb.?8 Jnb dx ycb 16yc. Ani }b cavb ?+16, Orai?9 Kd``br Dnybrvdb}, xcj}dnm Fborart ?778, ycb 16yc?2 jf Fborart, ?778. Dx ycay tjr nibrxyanidnm jf

    ?6 }cbn ycay yawbi dnybrvdb} jhhrrbi.?= A. D ob`dbvb dy }ax.?3 Q. Jlat. Ani ycbn }b cavb ?+14 yj ?+?7, }cdhc ??28

    1 dx dn ycb `ayb bvbndnm cjrx jf ?+14 jnyj ycb bar`t? kjrndnm cjrx jf ?+?7 }cbn ycb rboyya` yawb }ax8 obdnm fd`kbi< dx ycay tjr nibrxyanidnm.9 A. Hjrrbhy.2 Q. Jlat. Ani ycbn }b cavb ?+?7, `aybr dn ycb6 iat, }cdhc }j`i ob Fborart ?7, ?778, }b cavb ycb= IHFX dnybrvdb}. Dx ycay tjr nibrxyanidnm jf }cbn3 ycay jhhrrbi.4 A. Tbx, dy dx.17 Q. Jlat. Nj}, }cay Di `dlb tj yj ij, df tj11 }j`i, xdr, dx wy tjr nakb jnhb amadn }cbrb dy

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    1? xatx }dynbxx. Ani D njyb `axy ydkb tj xat18 Xbrmbany X. _job`, ani dy `jjlx `dlb dy xatx19 212.12 A. ]b``, D exy wy kt ojit nkobr ij}n ycbrb.16 Q. Ycayx tjr oaimb nkobr, jr ojit nkobr, jr

    1= xjkbycdnm.13 A. Ojit nkobr.14 Q. Bvbrtojit dn ycb xcbrdffx ibwarykbny cax a?7 idffbrbny nkobr xj tj han fdmrb dy jy.?1 A. Ycayx hjrrbhy.?? Q. Jlat. A`` rdmcy. Nj}, }cay Di `dlb ++?8 }cay Di `dlb yj ij, oaxbi jn tjr dnvbxydmaydjnax

    ?9 ycb `bai dnvbxydmayjr dn ycdx haxb, dx D }j`i `

    dlb?2 tj yj ++ dn mbnbra`, ani ycbn Dk mjdnm yj axltj?6 xwbhdfdha``t. Oy dn mbnbra`, Di `dlb tj yj yrt?= yj wy dn xjkb jf ycb dkwjryany iaybx ycay tj cavb?3 `barnbi frjk tjr dnvbxydmaydjn dn ycdx haxb, xj??29

    1 ycay ycb ert }d`` cavb an diba jf }cay }ax mjdnmjn

    ? irdnm ycdx Fborart ani Karhc wbrdji jf ydkb.8 Jlat.9 A. Jlat.2 Q. A`` rdmcy. Ani ycbn dy }d`` njy xcj} w6 cbrb, oy dyx mjdnm yj xcj} w ycbrb, ani }b``wy= ycay w afybr tj fdndxc.3 Fdrxy jf a``, ij tj lnj} }cbn ycb @dvdnm4 }dyc Kdhcab` Eahlxjn adrbi dn ycb Rndybi Ldnmijk.17 A. D ob`dbvb ycay }ax jn ycb 9yc. 9yc jr 2yc,11 jnb jf ycjxb y}j. Dk njy wjxdydvb.1? Q. Hj`i dy cavb obbn ycb 8ri.18 A. Dy hj`i cavb obbn.

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    19 Q. D`` yb`` tj }cay. Fjr nj}, ycbn, }ct12 ijny ++ jn tjr hjwt, }ct ijny ++ }dycjy16 idrbhydnm dy yj a warydh`ar nkobr, xdnhb tjrb1= njy xrb, }ct ijny tj exy, aojvb ycb mbnbra`

    arba13 jf ycb 8ri, 9yc ani 2yc, wy @dvdnm }dyc Kdhcab`14 Eahlxjn.?7 A. Jlat.?1 Q. Ani ij tj lnj} }cbn ycb Arvdujx f`b} yj?? Kdakd jn Hcrdx Yhlbrx wrdvayb hcarybrbi eby.?8 A. D ob`dbvb dy }ax ycb 6yc.?9 Q. Hj`i dy cavb obbn ycb 2yc. Dx ycbrb

    ?2 xjkbycdnm tj han rbfbr yj yj rbfrbxc tjr?6 rbhj``bhydjn.?= A. ]b``, D }j`i `dlb yj.?3 Q. Df tj cavb dy, hj`i tj ij ycay. ??22

    1 A. D ijny cavb dy w cbrb, ycb ydkb`dnb.? Q. Ij tj cavb a xbhjni yj hjnfbr }dyc ycb8 wrjxbhyjrx. Han tj mby xjkbycdnm ycay }j`i cb`

    w9 tj.2 A. @dlb D xadi, D ijny cavb dy w cbrb.6 Q. Ycayx }cay Dk xatdnm. Ij tj nbbi a= xbhjni. Wbrcawx tj hj`i hjnfbr }dyc Kr. Xnbiijn

    3 ani xbb df ycbrbx xjkbycdnm ycay kdmcy cb`w tj.

    4 K_. XNBIIJN5 ]cay, ij tj }any kb yj17 ybxydft.11 YCB HJR_Y5 ]b``, Hjnxb`, ycb }at tj cavb1? yj ij ycay, bdycbr tjrb wrbwarbi yj mdvb cdk ycb18 ijhkbnyx ycay tj }any cdk yj ybxydft frjk jr19 tjrb njy. Tj ijny axl ycb jycbr xdib yj xyary12 wrjihdnm kaybrda`x fjr tj.16 K_. XANMB_5 ]b``, D idiny kban yj ++ ycb

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    1= }dynbxx }ax dnidhaydnm cb ycjmcy cb cai xjkbycdnm.13 YCB HJR_Y5 ]b``, df cb ijbxny cavb dy, tj14 cavb yj kjvb a`jnm yj ycb nbsy qbxydjn.?7 K_. XANMB_5 Ycayx fdnb.

    ?1 Q. Xj dn jycbr }jrix, }caybvbr tj cavb, tj?? ijny ob`dbvb tj cavb dy dn ycb hjryrjjk< dx ycay?8 }cay tjrb xatdnm.?9 A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy. Df tj cavb xjkbycdnm ycay?2 }j`i rbfrbxc kt kbkjrt, ycay }j`i ob mrbay.?6 Q. ]b`` mj jvbr ycdx }dyc jycbr }dynbxxbx,?= ycbn.?3 Ij tj lnj} ycb iayb jf ycb rbyrn, ycb iayb ??2

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    1 }cbn Kdhcab` Eahlxjn ani ycb Arvdujx hakb oahl yj

    ? Xanya Oaroara ani }bny jy yj Nbvbr`ani _anhc.8 A. D }any yj xat D ob`dbvb dy }ax ycb =yc.9 Q. Jlat. Fborart =yc.2 A. Fborart =yc, tbx.

    6 Q. Xj }ct ijny tj kalb a njyb jf ycay.= Ani exy yj ob h`bar, ax ycb `bai3 dnvbxydmayjr, dyx tjr rbxwjnxdod`dyt yj rbvdb}a``4 jf ycb bvdibnhb, dnh`idnm jycbr rbwjryx ani jycbr17 ycdnmx ycay wbjw`b cavb ijnb dn ycdx haxb< dx ycay11 hjrrbhy.1? A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy. Oy ycbrbx xj khc18 dnvj`vbi dn ycdx, ycay xjkb jf ycbxb ycdnmx, dyx19 obbn a }cd`b xdnhb D cavb rbvdb}bi ycbk.12 Q. A`` rdmcy. Ij tj lnj} ++ xj ycb Arvdujx16 ani Kr. Eahlxjn hjkb yj ycb ranhc jn Fborart =yc.1= ]ax dy dn ycb bvbndnm< ij tj rbha``.13 K_. XNBIIJN5 Tjr Cjnjr, Dk mjdnm yj

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    14 joebhy yj ycb `ahl jf wbrxjna` lnj}`bimb jn ycbwary?7 jf ycb jffdhbr ax yj ycb iayb. Cb }axny ycbrb.?1 YCB HJR_Y5 Xxyadnbi.?? Q. OT K_. XANMB_5 Ij tj fbb` tj han mdvb x

    ?8 a ydkb`dnb jf bxxbnyda``t ++ bar`dbr tj ybxydfdbi?9 aojy xjkb iaybx dn Karhc }cbn tj ob`dbvb ycb?2 Arvdujx }brb ay ycb ranhc.?6 A. Hjrrbhy.?= K_. XNBIIJN5 Ahya``t, Tjr Cjnjr, han D?3 dkwjxb an joebhydjn. Ycdx dx rba``t obtjni ycb ??2=

    1 xhjwb jf idrbhy bsakdnaydjn. D idiny wy ycdx? }dynbxx jn fjr a ydkb`dnb, ani D idiny ycdnl D mjy8 dnyj ant jf ycdx. Ani cb }axny wrbwarbi yj ybxydft9 yj dy, xj D joebhy dyx obtjni ycb idrbhy.2 K_. XANMB_5 D ob`dbvb jn idrbhy cb idi ya`l6 aojy hbryadn iaybx ani ++

    = K_. XNBIIJN5 Hjnnbhybi yj ycb xbarhc3 }arrany.4 K_. XANMB_5 Df cbx njy ycb }dynbxx }cjx17 ao`b yj ij ycdx, }b }d`` hbryadn`t ob ao`b yj ijdy.

    11 D ij ycdnl cb ya`lbi aojy ycb Karhc iaybx bar`dbr.1? YCB HJR_Y5 Cb idi idxhxx ycb ydkb }cbn ycb18 fakd`t cai rbyrnbi frjk Kdakd ani }brb ay ycb19 ranhc.12 Ycb wrjo`bk Dk cavdnm dx, afybr `dxybndnm16 yj a`` ycay ybxydkjnt tbxybriat, Dk njy xrb }cdhc1= jnb jf tj axlbi ycay qbxydjn.13 K_. XANMB_5 D`` yb`` tj }cay }b`` ij,14 obhaxb ++ kat D axl a qbxydjn. Ani D`` }dycira}?7 }caybvbr dx wbnidnm xj D han axl a idffbrbny

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    ?1 qbxydjn.?? YCB HJR_Y5 Tbx.?8 K_. XANMB_5 A`` rdmcy.?9 Q. Xbrmbany _job`, ax a `bai dnvbxydmayjr dn?2 ycdx haxb, }cj ij tj fbb` frjk tjr ibwarykbny

    ?6 }j`i ob obxy ao`b yj wrbxbny a hcrjnj`jmt oaxbijn

    ?= a rbvdb} jf ycb ijhkbnyx.?3 A. ]b``, ycb wbjw`b ycay }brb axxdmnbi yj ycb ??23

    1 haxb, }b a`` }brb fakd`dar }dyc ycb ydkb`dnb. Oy

    ? ycbrb }brb xj kant idffbrbny iaybx dn ycbrb, ycay

    8 Dk fakd`dar }dyc dy ax }b`` ax antojit b`xb. OyD

    9 }j`i `dlb xjkbycdnm w cbrb yj rbfrbxc kt kbkjrtyj

    2 kalb xrb Dk hjrrbhy jn ycb bsahy hcrjnj`jmdha`6 bvbnyx ycay yjjl w`ahb.= Q. Ani tj cavb ycjxb kaybrda`x, oy tj ijny

    3 cavb ycbk dn ycb hjryrjjk.4 A. D ijny cavb ycbk }dyc kb dn kt odnibr.17 Q. Oy tj ij cavb ycjxb kaybrda`x xjkb}cbrb.11 A. Tbx, }b ij.1? K_. XANMB_5 Xj }cay D`` ij ay ycdx wjdny,18 Tjr Cjnjr, dx Dk njy mjdnm yj axl ant frycbr19 qbxydjnx jn ycdx. D }j`i `dlb yj cavb Xbrmbany

    12 _job` rbvdb} ycdx, xdnhb cb dx ycb `bai16 dnvbxydmayjr, xj cb han mdvb x a ydkb`dnb. Anidn1= ycb kbanydkb, df }b han }jrl dy jy }dyc anjycbr

    13 }dynbxx, }b`` ij ycay.14 YCB HJR_Y5 Ycayx fdnb.?7 K_. XANMB_5 A`` rdmcy.?1 YCB HJR_Y5 Kr. Xnbiijn, tj `jjl `dlb tj?? kdmcy }any yj xat xjkbycdnm.

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    ?8 K_. XNBIIJN5 Ak D a``j}bi.?9 YCB HJR_Y5 ]b``, D cavb yj ibhdib afybr tj?2 xyary ya`ldnm.?6 K_. XNBIIJN5 Eimb, D exy }any yj kalb dy?= h`bar ycay Dk njy yrtdnm yj xyjw Kr. Xanmbrx

    ?3 hrjxx, oy ycdx }ax njy ycb wrwjxb fjr ycdx wbrxjn ??24

    1 ay ycdx warydh`ar wjdny dn ydkb. Ani }b cai? dnybnibi yj ij khc ycb xakb ycdnm ay anjycbr wjdny8 dn ydkb, ani ++

    9 YCB HJR_Y5 A`` rdmcy.2 K_. XNBIIJN5 Ani D ijny }any yj ++6 YCB HJR_Y5 D idi amrbb }dyc tj, ycay a `jy= jf }cay }ax obdnm axlbi }ax obtjni ycb xhjwb jf ycb3 idrbhy bsakdnaydjn. Oy tj idiny joebhy, ani D4 ycjmcy ycay }ax fdnb.17 K_. XNBIIJN5 D idiny rba`dub }b }brb mjdnm11 yj w`j} ycdx fdb`i amadn yjiat. Xj D fdmrbi dyx

    1? ydkb yj xyjw.18 YCB HJR_Y5 A`` rdmcy. Xj arb tj mjdnm yj19 axl ++ mj acbai, Hjnxb`.12 K_. XANMB_5 Dk xjrrt. A`` D }ax mjdnm yj16 ij dx axl ycay ++ Dk mjdnm yj jffdhda``t axl, jr jn1= ycb rbhjri axl ycay Xbrmbany _job` rbvdb} cdx13 kaybrda`x. Ani raycbr ycan cj`i x w ay ycdx14 kjkbny, axl ycay cb rbvdb} cdx kaybrda`x ani ycbn?7 axl fjr wbrkdxxdjn yj ha`` cdk oahl xjkbydkb wbrcawx?1 `aybr yjiat jr yjkjrrj}.?? D nibrxyani ycbrb }d`` ob jycbr wj`dhb?8 jffdhbrx, xj }b han hjvbr ycdx. Df dn ycb kbanydkb?9 Ibybhydvb Ub`dx jr xjkbojit b`xb han ij dy, ycayx

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    ?2 fdnb, yjj.?6 K_. XNBIIJN5 Eimb, }dyc rbmari yj ycay?= rbqbxy, hj`i hjnxb` ani D awwrjahc ycb obnhcfjr?3 exy a xbhjni. Dyx a wbrxjna` ycdnm ++ ??67

    1 YCB HJR_Y5 Nj.? K_. XNBIIJN5 ++ ycay tj xcj`i ob a}arb8 jf.9 YCB HJR_Y5 Nj.2 K_. XANMB_5 Tjr Cjnjr ++6 YCB HJR_Y5 Df tjrb ycrjmc }dyc ycdx

    = }dynbxx + tjvb axlbi cdk yj wrbwarb + D`` cavb

    3 cdk xybw ij}n. Df tjrb njy ycrjmc, D }any tjyj4 axl ant qbxydjnx ycay tj cavb.17 K_. XANMB_5 D ak ycrjmc }dyc ycdx }dynbxx11 bshbwy fjr ycb wrbwaraydjn. Ani D nibrxyani }cay1? Kr. Xnbiijn xadi ani }d`` ahhjkkjiayb ycb }dynbxx.

    18 YCB HJR_Y5 A`` rdmcy.19 K_. XANMB_5 Ycbrb dx an dxxb, ani D12 nibrxyani, ani }b`` ahhjkkjiayb cdk.16 YCB HJR_Y5 Tj han ya`l yj bahc jycbr aojy1= ycay.13 K_. XANMB_5 Fdnb.14 YCB HJR_Y5 Ij tj }any yj cavb xjkb?7 rbidrbhy.?1 K_. XNBIIJN5 ]dyc ycb Hjryx wbrkdxxdjn,?? tbx.?8 YCB HJR_Y5 A`` rdmcy. Mj acbai.?9?2 _BID_BHY BSAKDNAYDJN?6 OT K_. XNBIIJN5?= Q. Ibybhydvb _job`, fdrxy a hjw`b jf baxt?3 qbxydjnx fjr tj. Wrdjr yj ycb ydkb ycay tj }brb ??61

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    1 axxdmnbi yj ycdx warydh`ar haxb ++ bshxb kb exy? jnb xbhjni.

    8 Wrdjr yj ycb ydkb ycay tj }brb axxdmnbi yj9 ycdx warydh`ar haxb, cai tj ani D bvbr kby.2 A. Wrdjr yj ycb haxb, nj.6 Q. Nj}, D axlbi tj yj `jjl ay Ibybhydvb= Ub`dxx rbwjry `axy ndmcy, ani xwbhdfdha``t axlbi

    3 tj yj rbvdb} ycb rbwjry }dyc a vdb} ax yj }cbycbr4 jr njy ycay rbwjry hjnyadnbi dnfjrkaydjn aojy yc

    b17 Arvduj hcd`irbn xatdnm ycay ycbt cai xbbn ycb11 rboyya` yawb obfjrb tjr ahya` fdrxy dnybrvdb}

    1? }dyc ycbk. Njy xbbn ycb rboyya` yawb, oy18 warydhdwaybi dn xjkb dnybrvdb}x ycay }b cavb nj}

    19 ha``bi ycb rboyya` yawb. Idi tj ij ycay.12 A. Tbx, D idi.16 Q. Idi ycay rbfrbxc tjr rbhj``bhydjn.

    1= A. Tbx, dy idi.13 Q. Ani idi tj, dn fahy, cavb ycay dnfjrkaydjn14 wrdjr yj ycb dndyda` dnybrvdb} }dyc ycb hcd`irbn.?7 A. Tbx, D idi.?1 Q. Nj}, jn Njvbkobr ycb 13yc jf ?778, tjvb?? yj`i ycb `aidbx ani mbny`bkbn jf ycb ert ycay tj?8 }bny ani warydhdwaybi dn ycb bsbhydjn jf a xbarhc?9 }arrany ycay }ax aycjrdubi ot a Eimb jf ycb?2 Xwbrdjr Hjry, hjrrbhy.?6 A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy.?= Q. Jn ycay warydh`ar iayb, }ax ycbrb a`xj an?3 arrbxy }arrany dxxbi ot ycay Eimb fjr ycb ??6?

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    1 ibfbniany, Kdhcab` Eahlxjn.? A. Tbx, ycbrb }ax.8 K_. XANMB_5 Dk mjdnm yj joebhy ani kjvb yj9 xyrdlb. Joebhy ani kjvb yj xyrdlb jn ycb mrjnix

    jf2 rb`bvanhb ani a`xj obtjni ycb xhjwb jf hrjxx.6 YCB HJR_Y5 Jvbrr`bi. Ycb anx}br }ax Tbx,= ycbrb }ax. Nbsy qbxydjn.3 Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 Nj}, Kr. Xanmbr axlbi tj a4 `jy jf qbxydjnx aojy }cay tj idi frjk afybr tj17 dnybrvdb}bi ycb Arvduj fakd`t jn a hjw`b jf11 jhhaxdjnx nyd` ycb wjdny ycay tj bsbhybi ycb

    1? xbarhc }arrany jn Njvbkobr 13yc. Ij tj rbha``18 ycjxb qbxydjnx.19 A. Tbx, D ij.12 Q. Nj}, }ax ycbrb a ibhdxdjn kaib }dyc rbmari16 yj cj} ycjxb xbarhc }arranyx }brb mjdnm yj ob1= bsbhybi.13 A. Tbx, ycbrb }ax.14 Q. ]ax ycbrb a xyraybmt dnvj`vbi dn ycay.?7 A. Tbx, ycbrb }ax.?1 Q. Ani }cay }ax ycay.

    ?? A. Afybr dnybrvdb}dnm ++?8 K_. XANMB_5 Dk mjdnm yj joebhy. Ycdx?9 ha``x fjr cbarxat, ani dy ijbx njy awwbar yj ob?2 rb`bvany, ani dyx obtjni ycb xhjwb jf hrjxx.?6 YCB HJR_Y5 Ijbxny dy ++ dxny ycay bsahy`t?= }cay tj }brb mjdnm dnyj tbxybriat.?3 K_. XNBIIJN5 Aoxj`yb`t. ??68

    1 YCB HJR_Y5 Jvbrr`bi.? Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 Mj acbai ani yb`` ycb8 `aidbx ani mbny`bkbn jf ycb ert.9 A. Afybr hjnihydnm ycb dnybrvdb}x }dyc ycb2 Arvduj fakd`t, ktxb`f, a`jnm }dyc ycb jycbr6 dnvbxydmayjrx, dnh`idnm ycb I.A.x Jffdhb, kby ani= }b hjnfbrrbi ani }b ibhdibi ay ycay wjdny, `dlb }

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    b3 ij jn xbvbra` dnvbxydmaydjnx, xjkbydkbx, tj lnj},4 }b`` mj dn ani aivanhb frycbr ani dnybrvdb} wbjw`b

    17 yj maycbr kjrb dnfjrkaydjn wrdjr yj xbrvdnm a xbarhc11 }arrany.1? Dn ycdx haxb }b hcjxb njy yj, ib yj ycb18 nayrb jf ycb dnvbxydmaydjn, ani ycb cdmc+wrjfd`b19 haxb obdnm dnvj`vbi }dyc Kdhcab` Eahlxjn. Xj }cay12 }b ibhdibi yj ij dx irjw a xbarhc }arrany ani xb

    rvb16 dy. Ani }b idi dy ycay }at obhaxb df }b }brb yjmj

    1= jy ani hjnyahy wbjw`b wrdjr yj ycay, }b }brb13 hjnhbrnbi aojy bvdibnhb ycay }b }brb `jjldnm fjr14 ycay }j`i hjrrjojrayb ycb xyaybkbnyx jf ycb?7 hcd`irbn }j`i ob ibxyrjtbi jr }j`i njy ob ycbrb,?1 ani dy }j`i hjkwrjkdxb jr dnvbxydmaydjn. Xj

    ?? ycayx ycb rbaxjn }ct }b hcjxb yj xbrvb ycb xbarhc?8 }arrany.?9 Ani ycbn afybr xbrvdnm ycb xbarhc }arrany,?2 jr irdnm ycb xbarhc }arrany xbrvdhb, D }ax ao`b

    ?6 yj ++ ib yj ycb xyaybkbnyx frjk ycb hcd`irbn, D}ax

    ?= a`rbait hjrrjojraydnm xjkb jf ycbdr xyaybkbnyx yj kb?3 ax D }ax }a`ldnm ycrjmc ani xbarhcdnm ycrjmc ycb ??69

    1 cjxb ani ycdnmx ycay ycbt ibwdhybi.? K_. XANMB_5 Dk mjdnm yj kjvb yj xyrdlb ycb8 `axy wary ax obdnm njnrbxwjnxdvb.

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    9 YCB HJR_Y5 Dk mjdnm yj xyrdlb ycb `axy2 waramrawc ycay xyaryx, Ani ycbn afybr xbrvdnm ycb6 xbarhc }arrany.= K_. XNBIIJN5 A`` rdmcy.

    3 YCB HJR_Y5 Ani Dk mjdnm yj aikjndxc ycb4 ert yj idxrbmari ycay xyaybkbny ax a hjnh`xdjnjf17 ycb }dynbxx.11 K_. XNBIIJN5 Tjr Cjnjr, D ijny ++1? YCB HJR_Y5 Dyx njnrbxwjnxdvb.18 K_. XNBIIJN5 Dyx njnrbxwjnxdvb.19 YCB HJR_Y5 Dy }ax njnrbxwjnxdvb ani a12 hjnh`xdjn jf ycb }dynbxx.

    16 K_. XNBIIJN5 Tbx, xdr. A`` rdmcy.1= Q. Nj}, Ibybhydvb _job`, ay ycb ydkb ycay tj13 bsbhybi ycb xbarhc }arrany jn Njvbkobr 13yc jf14 ?778 + jlat. + idi tj, irdnm ycb hjrxb jf ycb

    ?7 bsbhydjn jf ycay xbarhc }arrany joxbrvb, tj?1 wbrxjna``t, joxbrvb dybkx jr ycdnmx ycay tj fb`y?? hjrrjojraybi ycb xyaybkbnyx jf ycb Arvduj hcd`irbn.

    ?8 K_. XANMB_5 Joebhydjn, Tjr Cjnjr.?9 YCB HJR_Y5 Xxyadnbi.?2 Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 Jn ycb iayb ycay tj?6 bsbhybi ycb xbarhc }arrany, idi tj xbb ycb?= kannbqdn.?3 A. Tbx. ??62

    1 Q. Idi tj xbb ycb ordbfhaxb }dyc ycb? wjrnjmrawct.8 A. Tbx.9 K_. KBXB_BAR5 Joebhy.2 K_. XANMB_5 Tbx, joebhydjn. Vdj`aybx ycb6 Hjryx r`b.= YCB HJR_Y5 Tj idiny xat ai`y kaybrda`.3 K_. XNBIIJN5 Jc, Mji. Dk xjrrt, Tjr4 Cjnjr.

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    17 YCB HJR_Y5 A`` rdmcy.11 K_. XNBIIJN5 D ++1? YCB HJR_Y5 _bwcraxb tjr qbxydjn.18 Xxyadnbi.19 K_. XNBIIJN5 ]b``, tj lnj}, tj ycdnl `dlb

    12 a `a}tbr. D rba``t awj`jmdub. D awj`jmdub yj16 bvbrtojit.1= YCB HJR_Y5 Mj acbai.13 Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 Jlat. Idi tj xbb ycb14 ordbfhaxb }dyc ycb ai`y kaybrda` dn dy.?7 A. Tbx, D idi.?1 Q. Idi tj mj yj ycb arhaib.?? A. Tbx.?8 Q. Idi tj xbb ycb elbojs.

    ?9 A. Tbx.?2 Q. Idi tj mj dn ycb hb``ar.?6 A. Tbx.?= Q. Idi tj xbb ycb }dnb.?3 A. Tbx. ??66

    1 Q. Idi tj mj w ycb xyadr}at yj Kr. Eahlxjnx? obirjjk.

    8 A. Tbx.9 K_. XANMB_5 Tjr Cjnjr, D ob`dbvb ycdx dx2 obtjni ycb xhjwb jf hrjxx. D joebhy.6 YCB HJR_Y5 Jvbrr`bi.= Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 Idi tj xyani jn ycb3 `anidnm ani `jjl yj}arix Kr. Eahlxjnx obi.4 A. Tbx.17 Q. Jn ycb iat ycay ycb xbarhc }arrany }ax11 bsbhybi, xdk`yanbjx }dyc ycb bsbhydjn jf ycb

    1? xbarhc }arrany, }brb jycbr xbarhc }arranyx bsbhybi.18 A. Tbx, ycbrb }brb.19 Q. Ani }brb ycbrb dnybrvdb}x ycay }brb ijnb12 xdk`yanbjx jff ycb ranhc wrbkdxbx.16 A. Tbx.1= Q. Ani }cj }ax ycb wbrxjn }cj }ax dnybrvdb}bi.13 A. Ebxx Xa`ax.

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    14 Q. Nj}, ijny yb`` x antycdnm aojy }cay }ax?7 xadi, obhaxb }b`` mby dnyj ycay `aybr. Oy }brb?1 tj dnfjrkbi jf ycb rbx`yx jf ycay dnybrvdb} }cd`b

    ?? tj }brb ay ycb ranhc ycay kjrndnm.?8 A. Tbx, D }ax.?9 Q. ]brb tj wrbxbny }cbn a xbarhc }arrany }ax?2 bsbhybi jn ycb rbxdibnhb jf Karh Xhcaffb`.?6 A. Tbx, D }ax.?= Q. Jlat. @byx ya`l a `dyy`b ody aojy xjkb jf?3 ycb ycdnmx ycay Kr. Xanmbr axlbi tj ycdx kjrndnm ??6=

    1 ani tbxybriat.? Tj }brb axlbi ot Kr. Xanmbr yj rbvdb} xjkb8 xyaybkbnyx }dyc rbmari yj Iavb``dn, ani xwbhdfdha``t9 yj Iavb``dn }dyc rbmari yj ycay wjrydjn jf ycb2 yranxhrdwy }cbrb xcb dx ibxhrdodnm bvbnyx ycay ++

    6 }cbrb cbr orjycbrx arb wrbxbny ani ycbtrb ya`ldn

    m= aojy ycdnmx.3 A. Tbx.4 Q. Ij tj rbha`` ycay.17 A. Tbx.11 Q. Frjk rbvdb}dnm ycb yranxhrdwy, han tj yb``1? x + yb`` ycb ert kjrb dkwjryany`t + yb`` ycbk18 }cbycbr jr njy, frjk ycb rbvdb} jf ycb yranxhrdwyx,19 ycay xcbx rbfbrrdnm yj xyaybkbnyx ycay cavb12 jhhrrbi jn ycb ranhc jr afybr ycbt `bfy ycb ranhc.16 K_. XANMB_5 Dk mjdnm yj ++ Dk mjdnm yj1= joebhy. Ycay ha``x fjr a hjnh`xdjn. Dyx bdycbra

    13 xyaybkbny jf ycb }dynbxx jr dyx njy.14 YCB HJR_Y5 Xxyadnbi.?7 Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 Han tj yb`` frjk a rbvdb}

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    ?1 jf ycb yranxhrdwy ax yj }cbn ycjxb xyaybkbnyx arb?? kaib.?8 A. Nj.?9 Q. Ani exy yj ob h`bar, ycb hjnvbrxaydjnx

    ?2 ycbkxb`vbx, han tj yb`` }cbn ++ ycb hjnvbrxaydjnx?6 xcbx ya`ldnm aojy, }cbn ycbt jhhrrbi.?= A. D han yb`` }cbn ycbt jhhrrbi irdnm ycbdr?3 xyat jn Nbvbr`ani, oy bsahy iaybx, nj. ??63

    1 Q. Nj}, tj }brb axlbi tbxybriat ot Kr. Xanmbr

    ? }dyc rbmari yj }cbycbr jr njy Iavb``dn yj`i tj ycay8 xcb }ax a}arb jf ycb rdnb ojyy`bx dnhdibny. Ij tj9 rbha`` ycay.2 A. Tbx.6 Q. Ani idi tj cavb a hcanhb yj mj oahl ani= `jjl ay ycb yranxhrdwy }dyc rbmari yj cbr xyaybkbnyx3 yj tj aojy ycay.

    4 A. Tbx.17 Q. Ani han tj yb`` frjk a rbvdb} jf ycb11 yranxhrdwy }cbn xcb }ax a}arb jf ycb rdnb ojyy`bx1? dnhdibny.18 A. Dy }ax ++19 K_. XANMB_5 Joebhydjn. Ycay ha``x fjr12 xwbh`aydjn.16 K_. XNBIIJN5 @by kb rbwcraxb dy, Eimb. D1= han wrjoao`t cb`w tj.13 YCB HJR_Y5 A`` rdmcy.14 Q. Han tj yb`` frjk a rbvdb} jf ycb yranxhrdwy?7 }cbycbr jr njy xcb }ax a}arb jf ycb rdnb ojyy`b

    ?1 xwbhdkbn }cd`b xcb }ax ay ycb ranhc jr ++?? A. Tbx.?8 Q. Jlat. D exy cavb a hjw`b kjrb.?9 Tj }brb, tjvb yj`i ycb ert, jnb jf ycb

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    ?2 jffdhbrx }cj dnybrvdb}bi Mavdn Arvduj dn ycb dndyda`?6 dnybrvdb} ani dn ycb fj``j}+w dnybrvdb}, hjrrbhy.?= A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy.

    ?3 Q. Ani irdnm ycb dndyda` dnybrvdb}, Mavdn ??64

    1 Arvduj idxh`jxbi yj tj hbryadn ycdnmx ycay Kr.? Eahlxjn idi yj cdk, hjrrbhy.8 A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy.9 Q. Nj}, han tj ibxhrdob yj ycb `aidbx ani2 mbny`bkbn jf ycb ert }cay Mavdnx ayydyib jr

    6 ibkbanjr }ax ay ycb ydkb ycay tj mjy dnyj ycay wary= jf ycb hjnvbrxaydjn.3 A. Wrdjr yj mbyydnm dnyj ycay arba, }b }brb4 exy idxhxxdnm exy cdx xyat jn ycb ranhc, ani cb17 awwbarbi yj ob, tj lnj}, fdnb }dyc ya`ldnm }dycx,

    11 jwbn, vbrt wjxdydvb.1? Ax D mjy dnyj qbxydjndnm cdk rbmaridnm ycb

    18 ahya` kj`bxyaydjn ahyx ani cavdnm cdk xcarb }dyc19 ycay jwbn`t, dkkbidayb`t njydhbi a kaejr hcanmbdn12 Mavdnx ibkbanjr, ani cb oaxdha``t obhakb vbrt,vbrt16 qdby, fj`ibi cdx arkx, ani exy xnl ij}n dnyjcdx1= hcadr.13 Ani dy yjjl kb awwrjsdkayb`t ybn kdnybx jr14 xj yj rbaxxrb cdk ycay cb }ax ijdnm ycb rdmcy?7 ycdnm. Ani cb, ay jnb wjdny dn ydkb, ldni jf mjya

    ?1 `dyy`b ++ a `dyy`b hcjlbi w. Ani bvbnya``t cb}ax?? ao`b yj mj jn acbai ani idxh`jxb }cay ahyx jhhrrbi.?8 K_. XANMB_5 Dk mjdnm yj joebhy ani kjvb yj

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    ?9 xyrdlb ycb `axy xbnybnhb ax a hjnh`xdjn jf ycb?2 }dynbxx.?6 YCB HJR_Y5 Xyrdhlbn. Ycb ertx aikjndxcbi?= yj idxrbmari ycb `axy xbnybnhb.?3 Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 Nj}, tbxybriat Kr. Xanmbr ??=

    7

    1 axlbi tj xbvbra` qbxydjnx aojy xyaybkbnyx ycay

    ? Mavdn Arvduj kaib yj tj aojy ycb nkobr jf ydkbx8 ycay cb yj`i tj ycay Kr. Eahlxjn kj`bxybi cdk. I

    j9 tj rbha`` ycjxb qbxydjnx.2 A. Tbx.6 Q. Ani ij tj rbha`` ycay jn a hjw`b jf= jhhaxdjnx cb yj`i tj cb ycjmcy dy }ax oby}bbn fdvb3 ani xbvbn ydkbx.4 A. Tbx.17 Q. Ani ij tj rbha`` dn ycb hjryrjjk cbrb cb11 dnidhaybi ycay ycbrb }brb ay `baxy y}j ydkbx yca

    y cb1? }ax vbrt xwbhdfdh aojy ycb dnfjrkaydjn dn }cdhccb

    18 }ax ++ ycb ibfbniany kj`bxybi cdk. Ij tj rbha``

    19 ycay.12 A. Tbx.16 Q. Ij tj fdni ant dnhjnxdxybnhdbx oby}bbn }cay1= cb yj`i tj ani }cay cb xadi dn ycb hjryrjjk.13 K_. XANMB_5 Joebhydjn, Tjr Cjnjr. Ycay14 ha``x fjr xwbh`aydjn ani hjkkbny jn a }dynbxxx

    ?7 ybxydkjnt.?1 YCB HJR_Y5 Xxyadnbi.?? Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 ]brb tj wrbxbny irdnm a?8 hjnvbrxaydjn }cbrb Mavdn Arvduj bsw`adnbi ycb fdvb?9 ani xbvbn ++ ycb fdvb fdmrb ycay cb mavb tj vb

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    rxx?2 ycb y}j fdmrb ycay cb ybxydfdbi dn hjry.?6 A. Tbx.?= Q. Ani }cay idi cb xat dn ycay rbmari.?3 K_. XANMB_5 Joebhydjn< vamb ax yj ydkb. ??=1

    1 K_. XNBIIJN5 Dyx a ++? YCB HJR_Y5 Jvbrr`bi.8 Tj kat anx}br.9 Q. OT K_. XNBIIJN5 Mj acbai.2 A. Irdnm kt dndyda` dnybrvdb} }dyc cdk, cb cai6 yj`i kb ycay ++ ycay cb }ax xwbhdfdh aojy y}j

    = bvbnyx ycay cb rbha``bi jhhrrdnm. Ani cb a`xj yj`i3 kb ycay cb ob`dbvbx ycay dy cawwbnbi oby}bbn fdvb

    4 ani xbvbn ydkbx. Ani cb hj`i njy arydh`ayb17 bsahy`t }cay jhhrrbi, oy cb ob`dbvbx ycay dy11 cawwbnbi kjrb ycan y}dhb.1? K_. XNBIIJN5 Nj frycbr qbxydjnx, Tjr18 Cjnjr.19 YCB HJR_Y5 _bhrjxx.

    1216 _BH_JXX+BSAKDNAYDJN1= OT K_. XANMB_513 Q. Nj}, tj xadi tj }brb a}arb jf ycb rboyya`14 yawb. Cj} }brb tj a}arb jf ycb rboyya` yawb.?7 A. Irdnm dnybrvdb}x }dyc Krx. Arvduj.?1 Q. ]dyc Eanby Arvduj.?? A. Hjrrbhy.?8 Q. Tj cai nj diba }cay ycb rboyya` yawb?9 `jjlbi `dlb ay ycb ydkb tj ya`lbi yj Eanby Arvduj?2 obfjrb Njvbkobr 13yc< dx ycay hjrrbhy.?6 A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy.?= Q. Ani tj idi njy axl ant jf ycb hcd`irbn?3 aojy ycb rboyya` yawb wrdjr yj ycb xbarhc jn ??=?

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    1 Njvbkobr 13yc, ?778, hjrrbhy.? A. D ob`dbvb ycayx hjrrbhy.8 K_. XANMB_5 Kat D exy wy w 2782. Ycayx9 ycb ydkb`dnb ycay ++

    2 YCB HJR_Y5 Tbx, ycayx fdnb.6 K_. XANMB_5 Dyx a`rbait dn bvdibnhb. Exy= xj }b cavb a vdxa` cbrb.3 Q. Jlat. Xj amadn, xbarhc, Njvbkobr 13yc. Ani4 xjkbydkb afybr ycay ++ xjkbydkb oby}bbn Njvbkobr17 13yc ani Eanart 14yc, tj xa} a wjrydjn jf ycb11 rboyya` vdibj, hjrrbhy.1? A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy.18 Q. Ani jnb jf ycb jycbr jffdhbrx xadi, @jjl ay

    19 ycdx, ani cb }ax `jjldnm ay dy jn cdx xhrbbn, ani12 tj hakb jvbr ani `jjlbi ay dy.16 A. Tbac. Dy }ax a IVI, jr vdibj.1= Q. Jlat. Ani ycbn ycb fdrxy ydkb tj }ayhcbi13 ycb f`` yawb }ax Eanart 14yc< dx ycay hjrrbhy.

    14 A. Ycayx hjrrbhy.?7 Q. ]cbn tj fdrxy ++ }cj }ax dy ycay xcj}bi tj?1 ycdx yawb, ot ycb }at.

    ?? A. Ibybhydvb Ojnnbr.?8 Q. Jlat. Xj }cbn Ibybhydvb Ojnnbr xcj}bi tj?9 ycdx yawb, cb ha``bi tj jvbr ani xadi, @jjl ay

    ?2 ycdx, rdmcy.?6 A. Tbac.?= Q. Ani }cbn tj fdrxy xa}, dy }ax raycbr?3 rbkarlao`b, }axny dy. ??=8

    1 A. _bkarlao`b dn }cay }at.? Q. Dk axldnm tj. @by kb axl tj ycdx, ycbn58 Dy idi njy awwbar yj tj ay ycay ydkb yj ob9 hjnxdxybny }dyc }cay tj cai obbn cbardnm frjk ycdx2 fakd`t w nyd` ycb ydkb tj xa} dy.6 A. ]cbn D xa} odyx ani wdbhbx jf }cay cb xcj}bi

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    = kb jn ycay iat, D }ax njy a`arkbi ot ycay obhaxbjf

    3 ++ D rbha``bi }cay Eanby cai yj`i kb dn cbr dndyda`4 dnybrvdb} aojy ycbk obdnm fjrhbi yj ij ycay ot

    17 Idbybr, xj dy }ax njy a`arkdnm yj kb ay a``11 rbmaridnm }cay D }ax xbbdnm ani ycb }at xcb }ax1? ahydnm, df ycayx }cay tjrb axldnm.18 Q. Xj fjrhbi yj xat ycdnmx `dlb Ha`` Kdhcab`19 Eahlxjn iaiit ani faycbr fdmrb, ani a`` ycay.12 A. Bsahy`t.16 Q. Jlat. Ani tj }brbny ++ tjvb xay cbrb1= nj}, tjvb xbbn ycb harix }cbrb ycayx }cay ycd

    x13 fakd`t ijbx. Ycbt ha`` wbjw`b faycbr ani14 kjycbr, ani ycbt yb`` ycbk ycbt `jvb ycbk aniycbt?7 ij a`` ycay, rdmcy.?1 A. Ahhjridnm yj ycb harix, tbx.?? Q. Tj }brbny a}arb jf ycay ay ycb ydkb, }brb?8 tj.?9 A. Nj, D }axny.?2 Q. Xj }cbn xcb bsw`adnbi, ani `aybr ycb ldix

    ?6 bsw`adnbi, Jc, Idbybr kaib x ij dy, tj }brbny?= a}arb ycay ycayx }cay ycbt, dn fahy, idi?3 xwjnyanbjx`t wrdjr yj bvbr kbbydnm Idbybr, rdmcy. ??=9

    1 K_. XNBIIJN5 Bshxb kb.? K_. XANMB_5 Ycay }ax a `jnm qbxydjn.8 K_. XNBIIJN5 Dyx vamb, akodmjx ani ++9 K_. XANMB_5 @by kb }dycira} dy.2 YCB HJR_Y5 A`` rdmcy.6 K_. XANMB_5 D ycdnl dy }ax hjkwjni,= ahya``t. @by kb yrt yj orbal dy ij}n.3 Q. Wrdjr yj ++ `byx wy dy ycdx }at5 ]cbn idi4 tj fdrxy `barn ycay ycdx fakd`t }j`i xbni vbrt17 bffxdvb harix ani `byybrx yj wbjw`b ha``dnm ycb

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    k11 kjkkt jr iaiit, ani yb``dnm ycbk ycbtrb wary jf1? ycbdr fakd`t, ani ycay xjry jf ycdnm.18 K_. XNBIIJN5 Dk mjdnm yj joebhy yj ycb

    19 qbxydjn ax ycdx fakd`t dx vamb. Df cb cax12 xwbhdfdh wbjw`b cb }anyx yj rbfbr yj, D ycdnl cb

    16 xcj`i ij ycay.1= K_. XANMB_5 Dk rbfbrrdnm yj Eanby, Xyar,13 Mavdn ani Iavb``dn, }cjxb nakbx a`rbait xcj} wjn14 ycb harix dn bvdibnhb dn ycdx haxb }dyc rbmari yj

    ?7 Wa`anlbr ani Kdhcab` Eahlxjn.?1 YCB HJR_Y5 Exy a kjkbny. D ijny lnj} cj}?? ycdx cax ibybrdjraybi }cbrb ojyc jf tj arb ya`ldnm?8 frbb`t yj ycb ert aojy tjr qbxydjnx. Xj `byx?9 mj oahl yj ycb ++?2 K_. XANMB_5 Dk xjrrt, Tjr Cjnjr.?6 YCB HJR_Y5 @byx mj oahl yj ycb xwbhdfdh?= joebhydjnx, ani njy rbxwjni yj ycbk. Ycb joebhyd

    jn?3 dx jvbrr`bi. ??=2

    1 Tj kat anx}br nj}. Ani D`` cavb dy rbai? oahl, obhaxb ycbrbx obbn a hjnvbrxaydjn yalb8 w`ahb.9 YCB ]DYNBXX5 Ycanl tj.2 #_bhjri rbai.$6 YCB ]DYNBXX5 Rwjn rbvdb}dnm, afybr ycb= xbarhc }arrany, xjkb jf ycb dybkx ycay }brb xbdubi,3 }cbn D }ax mjdnm ycrjmc xjkb jf ycjxb dybkx, D ran4 ahrjxx xjkb jf ycb harix ani xj fjryc ycay tj cavb17 idxw`atbi cbrb dn hjry.

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    11 Q. OT K_. XANMB_5 Nj}, ycb harix yj Kdxx1? Wa`anlbr, tj }brb cbrb dn hjry }cbn ycjxb }brb

    18 idxw`atbi.19 A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy.

    12 Q. Tj idiny xbb ycjxb harix nyd` a hjw`b16 kjnycx amj< dx ycay hjrrbhy.1= A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy.13 Q. Nj}, tj dnidhaybi ycay tj wrjhbbibi ++14 Kr. Xnbiijn }ax axldnm tj cj} tj wrjhbbibi }dyc?7 ycdx dnvbxydmaydjn. Ani oaxdha``t, tj xadi ycay

    ?1 tj ya`lbi yj ycb fakd`t ani tj idiny ++ tj

    ?? idiny ibvb`jw jycbr bvdibnhb obfjrb mjdnm yj mby?8 ycb xbarhc }arranyx, hjrrbhy.?9 A. Kbandnm ++?2 Q. Dk warawcraxdnm }cay tj }brb xatdnm, ani?6 wbrcawx njy ahhrayb`t, obhaxb tjrb njy amrbbdnm.?= D ob`dbvb dn rbxwjnxb yj Kr. Xnbiijnx?3 qbxydjn, tj xadi jn Njvbkobr 13yc, tj mjy xbarhc ??=6

    1 }arranyx, ani tj wrjhbbibi dn ycay faxcdjn raycbr? ycan mjdnm jy ani dnybrvdb}dnm jycbr wbjw`b, jycbr8 ycan ycb fakd`t, ani D mbxx Ir. Layu, rdmcy.9 A. Ycay dx hjrrbhy.2 Q. Jlat. Ani D yalb dy frjk }cay tj arb6 xatdnm, tj idi ycay, ani D ycdnl tj xwbhdfdha``t= xadi, obhaxb ycdx }ax a cdmc+wrjfd`b haxb, hjrrbhy.3 A. ]cay D kbany dx, dx ycay ib yj ycb nayrb4 jf ycb haxb obdnm a kj`bxyaydjn haxb, ycdx dx njy

    17 xjkbycdnm ycay ++ dyx jy jf ycb jridnart fjr k

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    b,11 ax an dnvbxydmayjr, ycay, jn kj`bxyaydjn haxbx,tj1? ij njy ++18 K_. XANMB_5 Dk mjdnm yj kjvb yj xyrdlb.

    19 Ycayx a narraydvb ani njy rbxwjnxdvb.12 YCB HJR_Y5 Jvbrr`bi. Cbx anx}brdnm tjr16 qbxydjn.1= Q. OT K_. XANMB_5 Mj acbai.13 A. Ycay }b yalb ycjxb idffbrbny`t, ani bahc jnb14 dx iba`y }dyc idffbrbny`t ax far ax cj} far }b?7 wrxb dy obfjrb }b ij a }arrany, obhaxb dy }j`i?1 hjkwrjkdxb bvdibnhb ycay }b }j`i wjxxdo`t `jxb

    df?? }b }brb yj mj jy ani hjnyahy ycb wbjw`b.?8 Q. Nj}, tj jnhb xadi ycay tj }brb hjnhbrnbi?9 aojy, fjr dnxyanhb, ha``dnm ycb Obvbr`t Cd``x?2 Wj`dhb Ibwarykbny, idiny tj xat. Njy cbrb dn?6 ycbxb wrjhbbidnmx, oy wrbvdjx`t. ]brb tj a}arb?= jf ycay. D ijny lnj} df tj xadi dy jr ++?3 A. D ijny lnj} df dy }ax kb. D ycdnl dy }ax ??==

    1 jnb jf ycb jycbr dnvbxydmayjrx ycay }ax axxdmnbiyj? ycay.8 Q. Ani tj }brb hjnhbrnbi aojy ha``dnm ycb9 Obvbr`t Cd``x Wj`dhb Ibwarykbny }ct.2 A. D ++6 K_. XNBIIJN5 Eimb, D joebhy. @ahl jf= lnj}`bimb, wbrxjna` lnj}`bimb.3 K_. XANMB_5 Ycayx fdnb.4 Q. Df tj ijny lnj} ++ tjrb ycb `bai17 dnvbxydmayjr, rdmcy.11 YCB HJR_Y5 Exy a kdnyb.1? K_. XANMB_5 @by kb }dycira} dy.18 YCB HJR_Y5 Ycb joebhydjn dx xxyadnbi.19 K_. XANMB_5 Jlat.

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    12 Q. Dk oaxdnm ycdx qbxydjn jn tjr wjxdydjn16 cbrb ax ycb `bai dnvbxydmayjr. D yalb dy, ax `bai1= dnvbxydmayjr, tj cavb a xat ++ jr tj idxhxx }dyc

    13 tjr xwbrdjrx, oy tj cavb a xat jn }cay cawwbnx14 dn ycb haxb, hjrrbhy.?7 A. Kr. Xanmbr, D cavb a xat dn }cay cawwbnx dn?1 ycb haxb. Oy ycb kamndyib jf ycdx haxb, tj lnj},?? Dk ycb `bai, oy D ijny lnj} bvbrt `dyy`b ycdnm?8 ycay mjbx jn ani mbyx kt awwrjva`. Xj Dk na}ar

    b?9 jf xjkb ycdnmx ycay ijny mj jn jn a rbm`ar oaxdx.?2 Q. ]b``, tjrb a}arb, fjr dnxyanhb, ax tj?6 cavb yj`i x, ycay Kr. Xnbiijn cdkxb`f }bny ij}nyj

    ?= Obvbr`t Cd``x ani idi xjkb dnvbxydmaydjn, hjrrbhy.?3 A. Cb }bny ij}n yj Obvbr`t Cd``x. Oy dy ??=3

    1 }axny fjr dnvbxydmaydjn.? Q. ]b``, xdr, cb }bny yj Orai Kd``brx8 jffdhb ++9 YCB HJR_Y5 Exy a kdnyb, Hjnxb`. D exy2 fbb` ycay ycb bsakdnaydjn dx `jxdnm dyx fjhx.6 Bvbrt ydkb cb anx}brx xjkbycdnm a `dyy`b= idffbrbny`t, tj mj ij}n ycay xyrbby. Ani }brb ++3 D }jnibr df tj hj`i mby oahl yj }cay tj }brb4 axldnm cdk aojy jrdmdna``t.17 K_. XANMB_5 Ycdx dx ++11 YCB HJR_Y5 D ijny ++1? K_. XANMB_5 D han dnidhayb yj ycb Hjry ++18 YCB HJR_Y5 D ycdnl tjrb yaldnm bvbrt xdib19 xyrbby ycay hjkbx w, ani Di `dlb tj yj12 hjnhbnyrayb jn tjr rbhrjxx jf ycdx }dynbxx.

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    16 K_. XANMB_5 Tbx.1= Q. Ycb rbhrjxx, ani ycb fjhx jf ycdx, Xbrmbany13 _job`, dx }cay tj exy yj`i x aojy, tj yj`iKr.14 Xnbiijn, ycdx dx a cdmc+wrjfd`b haxb, ycayx }ct

    tj?7 wrjhbbibi dn ycdx faxcdjn. D axlbi tj aojy ycay,?1 ani tj rbxwjnibi ++?? K_. XNBIIJN5 Joebhy ax a narraydvb.?8 YCB HJR_Y5 Exy axl tjr nbsy qbxydjn.?9 K_. XANMB_5 A`` rdmcy.?2 Q. Ani jnb jf ycb ycdnmx ycay tjr ibwarykbny?6 idi, obhaxb tj xadi ycdx }ax a xbnxdydvb haxb,

    }ax?= njy hjnyahy ycb Obvbr`t Cd``x Wj`dhb Ibwarykbny