PARIS REPORT Liat Westland launches ATP A.129 link · 2019. 3. 9. · A.129 link Agusta's and...

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PARIS REPORT Agusta/ Westland confirm A.129 link Agusta's and Westland's intention to team up in a joint A.129 Mangusta project was confirmed at the Paris Air Show. At a joint press conference Agusta chairman Rafaello Teti and Westland chairman Sir Basil Blackwell an- nounced the start of a feasibility and predefinition study of a version of the A.129 which could be used by both the Italian and the British Armies. The programme, which has the backing of both the Italian and British Governments, follows the signing of a memorandum of understanding (MoU) by the two companies about a month ago, to seek closer co- operation in the helicopter field. Sir Basil, whose company was put up for sale last week following a takeover bid by Alan Bristow, declined to talk about Westland's problems except to say that Bristow was saying that he held 16 per cent of Westland shares, while Westland claims that Bristow holds only 3 per cent. Sir Basil also insists that there would still be room for Westland's Lynx 3 attack- helicopter programme. He pointed out that the Lynx 3 has side-by-side seating and could carry nine or ten troops, while the A.129 was a tandem two-seater aircraft. "There is no total overlap between the two," he said. Sir Basil added that the Lynx 3 was demon- strated to an unnamed poten- tial customer the day before the press conference. Teti said that if the four European helicopter com- panies—Westland, Agusta, MBB, and Aerospatiale— could work together, especially in the Nato arms field, they could represent a major challenge to the heli- copter industry of the United States. "We should at least be deal- ing on an equal footing with the Americans. Some people think this is just dreaming, but I think that if we persevere we can achieve .FLIGHT International, 8 June 1985 This Agusta proposal for a light-transport variant of the A.129 would carry eight troops and fuel for 2 5hr. Mission gross weight would be 4,300kg, and maximum speed would be 151kt. The A.129LTH would hover out of ground effect at 3,950ft in ISA + 15°C. Agusta also proposes a naval A.129 called Gannet. Modifications include a radar nose and night-vision system. Gannet mission gross weight would be 4,000kg, and the tandem two-seater would cruise at 120kt for 3hr results," said Teti. The A.129 programme will not be exclusive to the Italian and British firms, although they will be the major contractors. Sir Basil said that getting four countries together from the start was a complex business; two could just about manage it without injury to either. Deliveries of the A.129 to the Italian Army are expected to begin at the end of 1986. Four prototypes have com- pleted flight-testing and the fifth is undergoing ground tests. Teti said that represen- tatives from Agusta had recently been to Abu Dhabi to discuss possible sales of the aircraft. He said that a lot of interest had been shown in the A.129 and altogether there were "four or five" nations which had expressed "serious interest". "The A.129 is a very complex machine, but there are some people who will buy it for a status symbol even if they cannot fly it," he said. Dassault shows strike Alpha Jet Dassault's Alpha Jet Lancier front fuselage mockup shows a longer nose to accommodate an air-to-air, air-to-ground radar, plus forward-looking infrared blister, and a wide-angle Hud behind a new one-piece windscreen. Liat launches ATP Caribbean-based Liat, a loyal customer of British Aero- space, has now placed the first orders for the new 64-seater BAe ATP Advanced Turbo- prop regional airliner. The contract, for two of the type with options on a further two, was signed at Le Bourget by Liat's chairman, Russell Kellman, and BAe chief Sir Raymond Lygo. The total order, including options and spares, is worth £35 million. Liat will have received the last in an order of four new BAe Super 748s by the end of next month, but these will be traded-in for the ATPs as they are delivered in 1987-88. Indications are that traffic growth, currently running at 12 per cent a year, will continue, thus fully using the 64-seat capacity of the larger aircraft. The carrier is retaining two of its older 748s until the end of this year, when the first two of an order for five de Havilland Canada Dash 8s arrive. All five will be operat- ing by June 1986. Liat is disposing of its remaining Islanders, though it will retain a few DHC Twin Otters. Operations manager Capt Arthur Foster says that the airline's advertising slogan will be "The newest fleet in the Western Hemisphere". Liat has not been profitable for some time, but prospects look better. It intends to pay for the ATPs, apart from exchanging the 748s, by what Sir Raymond Lygo refers to as "a hire-purchase arrange- ment"—payment out of operating revenues. The airline will be pressing, as it did successfully (with BAe's help) over the new 748s, for whatever British Government financial assistance it can obtain. As Sir Raymond says: "The Treasury has to be convinced. There is no problem with the Foreign Office or the Trade Department". He believes that BAe has reason to congratulate itself for achieving a launch sale which, in this kind of market, has been made an unusually long time in advance of the first flight.

Transcript of PARIS REPORT Liat Westland launches ATP A.129 link · 2019. 3. 9. · A.129 link Agusta's and...

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    Agusta/ Westland confirm A.129 link Agusta 's and Wes t l and ' s in ten t ion to t e a m up in a jo in t A.129 M a n g u s t a project was confirmed at the Pa r i s Air Show.

    At a jo in t press conference Agusta cha i rman Rafaello Te t i a n d Wes t l and cha i rman Sir Basil Blackwell an-nounced the s t a r t of a feasibility and predefini t ion s tudy of a version of t he A.129 which could be used by b o t h t he I tal ian and the Br i t i sh Armies . T h e p rogramme, which has t he backing of bo th the I ta l ian and Br i t i sh Government s , follows the signing of a m e m o r a n d u m of unde r s t and ing (MoU) by the two companies about a m o n t h ago, to seek closer co-operat ion in t he helicopter field.

    Sir Basil, whose company was pu t up for sale last week following a takeover bid by Alan Bristow, declined to ta lk about Wes t l and ' s problems except to say t h a t Bris tow was saying t h a t he held 16 per cent of Wes t l and shares , while Wes t l and claims t h a t Br is tow holds only 3 per cent.

    Sir Basil also insists t h a t there would still be room for Wes t l and ' s Lynx 3 a t tack-helicopter p rogramme. H e poin ted out t h a t the Lynx 3 has side-by-side seat ing and could carry n ine or t en t roops , while the A.129 was a t a n d e m two-seater aircraft. "There is no to ta l overlap be tween t h e two," he said. Sir Basil added t h a t the Lynx 3 was demon-s t ra ted to an u n n a m e d po ten-t ial cus tomer t he day before t he press conference.

    Te t i said t h a t if t he four European helicopter com-panies—West land , Agusta, M B B , a n d Aerospat ia le— could work together , especially in t he N a t o a rms field, they could represent a major challenge to t he heli-copter industry of t he Un i t ed S ta tes .

    "We should a t least be deal-ing on an equal footing wi th the Americans . Some people t h ink th is is jus t dreaming, bu t I t h i n k t h a t if we persevere we can achieve

    .FLIGHT International, 8 June 1985

    This Agusta proposal for a light-transport variant of the A.129 would carry eight troops and fuel for 2 • 5hr. Mission gross weight would be 4,300kg, and maximum speed would be 151kt. The A.129LTH would hover out of ground effect at 3,950ft in ISA + 15°C. Agusta also proposes a naval A.129 called Gannet. Modifications include a radar nose and night-vision system. Gannet mission gross weight would be 4,000kg, and the tandem two-seater would cruise at 120kt for 3hr

    resul ts ," said Te t i . T h e A.129 p rog ramme will

    no t be exclusive to t he I ta l ian and Br i t i sh firms, a l though they will be t he major cont rac tors . Sir Basil said t h a t get t ing four countr ies together from the s ta r t was a complex business; two could jus t about manage it wi thout injury to ei ther .

    Deliveries of t h e A.129 to t he I ta l ian Army are expected to begin a t t he end of 1986. Four pro to types have com-pleted fl ight-test ing a n d the

    fifth is undergoing ground tes ts . T e t i said t h a t represen-ta t ives from Agusta had recently been to Abu Dhab i to discuss possible sales of t he aircraft. He said t h a t a lot of interest had been shown in t he A.129 a n d al together the re were "four or five" na t ions which had expressed "serious interest" .

    " T h e A.129 is a very complex machine , bu t there are some people who will buy it for a s ta tus symbol even if they canno t fly it," he said.

    Dassault shows strike Alpha Jet Dassault's Alpha Jet Lancier front fuselage mockup shows a longer nose to accommodate an air-to-air, air-to-ground radar, plus forward-looking infrared blister, and a wide-angle Hud behind a new one-piece windscreen.

    Liat launches ATP Caribbean-based Liat , a loyal cus tomer of Br i t i sh Aero-space, has now placed t h e first orders for the new 64-seater BAe A T P Advanced Turbo-prop regional airl iner. T h e contrac t , for two of t he type wi th opt ions on a further two, was signed a t Le Bourget by Lia t ' s cha i rman , Russell Kel lman, a n d BAe chief Sir R a y m o n d Lygo. T h e to ta l order, including opt ions and spares, is wor th £35 million.

    L ia t will have received the last in an order of four new BAe Super 748s by the end of next mon th , bu t these will be t raded- in for the A T P s as they are delivered in 1987-88. Indicat ions are t h a t traffic growth, current ly runn ing a t 12 per cent a year, will cont inue , t hus fully us ing t h e 64-seat capacity of t he larger aircraft.

    T h e carr ier is re ta in ing two of i ts older 748s un t i l t he end of th i s year, when the first two of an order for five de Havi l land C a n a d a D a s h 8s arrive. All five will be operat-ing by J u n e 1986. Lia t is disposing of i ts remain ing Is landers , t hough it will re ta in a few D H C T w i n Ot ters .

    Opera t ions manager Capt Ar thu r Fos ter says t h a t t he air l ine 's advert is ing slogan will be "The newest fleet in the Wes te rn Hemisphere" .

    Liat has no t been profitable for some t ime, bu t prospects look bet ter . It in tends to pay for the A T P s , apa r t from exchanging the 748s, by wha t Sir R a y m o n d Lygo refers t o as "a h i re-purchase a r range-m e n t " — p a y m e n t out of opera t ing revenues. T h e airl ine will be pressing, as it did successfully (with BAe 's help) over t he new 748s, for whatever Br i t i sh Gove rnmen t financial ass is tance it can obta in . As Sir R a y m o n d says: "The Treasury has to be convinced. T h e r e is no problem with t he Foreign Office or t he T r a d e Depa r tmen t " .

    H e believes t h a t BAe has reason to congra tu la te itself for achieving a launch sale which, in th i s k ind of marke t , has been m a d e an unusual ly long t ime in advance of t he first flight.