Paranormal Press Issue 13 September 2012

The Grey Ghost. RMS Queen Mary

The Southampton Ghost Walks

Plus Psychic Detective

Keith Charles

writes for the Press

EVENT NEWS WITH HAUNTED SOUTHAMPTON.

Haunted Southampton arranges and hosts paranormal investigations

across the South of England.

Working with experienced and knowledgeable psychic

practioners and using our scientific equipment we hope to establish

if indeed these venues are as haunted as they claim to be

Join us for the night , all tickets for our event investigations are

available at the website www.hauntedsouthampton.com

EVENT DIARY

Friday 26th October . 10.30pm - 06am. We investigate Salisbury

Guildhall. With it’s 17th century court rooms, underground cells and

stately rooms , just who is wandering around the premises when the

staff go home ?

Reported to haunted by an old hanging judge , we hope to find out

more answers during the night , can you undertake a lone vigil in the

cells to try and establish who is

Saturday 24th November .

Haunted Southampton takes a trip to Priddy’s Hard , Gosport . For

some two hundred years it was a restricted-access site; first

becoming a fort and then an armaments depot for Royal

Navy and British Army weapons, explosives and other stores. With

various reports of ghosts, un explained sightings we hope to find

out just who is haunting the current buildings now known as the

Explosions Museum. 9.30pm - 04am

Underneath the streets of Southampton is a labyrinth of vaults,

tunnels and secret passages, built within the Medieval period .

Working once again with Official Southampton Tourist Guide

Derek Challaghan , we have established a series of mini

paranormal investigations with access to six of these underworld

areas. Not suitable for any person with mobility difficulties as

entrance to several vaults descends down long narrow spiral

staircases. Investigations start October;

Cost is £10pp and the first two dates will be announced very soon

www.hauntedsouthampton.com

Inside This Issue

Paranormal

Press

September 2012

Issue 13

EDITORIAL

Content

Peter Collins

_ _ _ _ _

Contributing

Articles

Tracy Collins

Keith Charles

Ron Fabiani

Margaret Bartlett

James Lysadrides

Juliet Collins

Lura Ketchledge

Erika Frost

INVESTIGATION SPOTLIGHT

A look at our investigation of Gods House Tower,

Southampton

CURRENT PROJECT SPOTLIGHT

The Southampton Ghost Walks with Haunted Southampton

and tourist guide Derek Challaghan.

GUEST CONTRIBUTOR

Movie producer Lura Ketchledge writes for

The Paranormal Press

THIS MONTHS ARTICLES

We take a closer look at RMS Queen Mary with

paranormal researcher Erika Frost.

Paranormal Press talks to Spiritual Medium, psychic

detective and author Keith Charles.

Readers interest in the paranormal - We asked for your

input about the paranormal and your thoughts - here is

what Paranormal Press reader, Margaret Bartlett

had to say..

Paranormal Press talks - A second interview by journalist

Tracy Collins with Ron Fabiani from TV’s Paranormal

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Paranormal Press Talks To …..

Spiritual Medium & Psychic Detective

Keith Charles - Into the beyond

Our ‘spirit’ is housed within our physical bodily overcoat; some refer to it as the ‘soul’. This spirit is the real you

and retains our life experiences, knowledge, and personality. It is an invisible and real spiritual energy. When the

time arrives our spirit leaves the physical body, journeying on its way home to Heaven unhindered. At the point

just mille-seconds before the impact of physical death, no matter how tragic, the spirit leaves the physical world.

As our spirit journeys to Heaven, we are normally accompanied by a ‘deceased’ relative. My spirit guide Tobias,

and other communicators who have undergone the transition period, have all said there is no pain in death.

When arriving in ‘Heaven’ our spirit is rested for as long as our acknowledgement of death takes. Once this

acceptance of the separation of our physical and spiritual ‘bodies’ has taken place, our spiritual pathway is open.

Many people that have undergone near death experiences (commonly referred to as N.D.E.’s) recall this journey;

likening it to passing through a dark tunnel and coming out into light. None of them have pain, some of them

feel like they are flying, or just travelling along a moving escalator or belt. A friend of mine who had a similar

experience when nearly drowning described his experience as initial panic when trying to swim, then a

transcendental journey through sleep.

Some scientists and non-believers would try and explain these N.D.E’s as the mind creating illusions brought

about by physical and chemical changes at or near the time of death. Medical research into this theory by

Doctors at Southampton has probably established that this not so, they suggest that the alleged chemicals

responsible for those illusions are not physically present at or near death!

The spirit world is all around us, we cannot see it, it is in a different dimension but it is there. Having taken that

step into the beyond, to our new spiritual paradise, our initial phase is the ‘recovery’ area. This is where we are

met by loved ones, and adjust to the realisation that we have crossed over. There are many facets in your

spiritual progression, and each is an amazing step. The initial concept of being aware that we have no physical

body, that now we are almost a transparent energy with the ability to reform ourselves to whatever physical age

in memory we prefer, is some what mind blowing.

Keith Charles

There is no escaping the fact that death will affect each and every one of us

at some time. Social standing, financial wealth, education or upbringing

makes no difference. Death is not the end, but a portal allowing progress

along our spiritual pathway to the place I term Heaven. Whatever your

personal or religious beliefs they are yours! I know that spiritual paradise

exists where families are reunited, disabilities discarded, jealousy’s

abandoned, and health restored and problems resolved.

The 16th November 1994 was the day my son Mathew was killed in a road

traffic accident. Contrary to what some people think, as a medium, I had no

pre-warning or sense of what was to happen, and I was not spared the

trauma that affects us all. I know I will never forget my feelings that day,

some everlasting unwanted memories. I have learned from these, and the

experiences of others who have suffered loss. I have shared in the trauma of

so many similar experiences with other parents and family members during

my time as a police officer and spiritual medium. A death, and passing of a

loved one, can generate a multitude of emotions including sadness, grief,

shock, guilt, denial, resentment, apathy, forgetfulness and anger. None of us

are immune, and there is no magic remedy.

Your spirit refreshed and restored

to full spiritual health with a new

freedom to take advantage of.

Do not be misled that we have

some free licence to paradise without

structure. There is help, discipline and

a process for educating you in this

new home. This help is given freely

and lovingly by your own pre-

deceased family, and newly acquired

spiritual teachers. They nurture and

care for you and offer important help,

in the creation of your new spiritual

progression. Of course there is plenty

of time to meet and reminisce with

loved ones and friends, and Heaven is

a pretty active place.

Once you have exhausted the

pleasures of friends and family you

may wish to explore the many halls of

learning available to you. Remember

there are no clocks or time to restrict

you.

Some choose to help with new

‘spirit’ arrivals, or to work with

babies, children, animals or any task

they wish, including the development

of spiritual skills and knowledge. The

‘spirit’ of miscarriages and termina-

tions also progress to the spirit world.

Here they too grow and progress

spiritually.

When our time comes to pass over,

those younger spirits we knew as

babies or children, will be there to

meet us and we do recognise them.

Progression and a place in Heaven is

there also for those who sadly take

their own life; they also progress in

the spirit world. Physical and mental

disabilities are as I mentioned

discarded, and it is important to know

that all life forms in the spirit world

have the ability to communicate with

us hear on earth. Animals often show

themselves to mediums from their

lofty position in Heaven, and in doing

bring much comfort and reassurance

to those whose physical life they once

shared.

Superb healing pools, wonderful

gardens, spiritual teachers and Masters

are available for your revitalisation

and advancement. Maybe you might

have the opportunity to converse

with a great composer, artist or world

leader?

Should our loved ones wish to

communicate to us that they are in

Heaven and chose to do this through

a medium, there is no time

requirement or restrictions

preventing them from doing so, it

largely depends on how long their

personal recovery process takes.

It is often dependant or affected

by many things, including the nature

of the passing, the beliefs of the

individual, their acceptance of death,

and the speed of their spiritual

recovery. Contrary to some beliefs,

we do not disturb them, for Heaven is

a very active place, we cannot halt

their progression, nor can we hin-

der their recovery. The tranquillity,

love and deep sense of being and be-

longing is what touches the new

spirit.

Communication is their choice; it is

our wish and their ‘doing’.

The process is neither harmful nor

evil, but occurs because of an

invisible tie of love and spirituality.

It is because ‘spirit’ have the ability

to re-create themselves to their

preferred age, that when

communicating and showing them-

selves to mediums that sometimes

they are not initially recognisable to

the recipient of the message.

For example, my own father was

restricted to a wheelchair for the last

few years of his life, and lost his

speech, yet when linking with me he

was standing upright and speaking.

The whole process I consider

another of God’s Gifts a minor

miracle that we may continue to have

contact, whether it be by messages,

thoughts, sense or the visitation in

spirit form of our departed loved

ones.

Keith Charles

Keith Charles is often called

upon by organisations and indi-

viduals to utilise his psychic skills

in an attempt to help solve many

unanswered questions when loved

ones are suddenly taken from us in

mysterious circumstances. Keith

says, “Having suffered personal

tragedy I know the devastating

effects physically and emotionally,

this may have. I never promise

results, but when asked I will do

my best to obtain spiritual

information as accurately and

honestly as possible, in an effort to

bring closure.”

Keith was featured on Granada

Television in the film entitled 'The

Real Life of the Psychic

Detective', which followed Keith

to Buffalo, in the USA, where he

assisted the police department. He

has featured on many British

television programmes, including

'Esther', 'Kilroy', 'Richard & Judy'

and 'Sky Sports'.

Interviews with top radio

personalities such as Steve Wright,

Nicky Campbell, Johnnie Walker

and David Hamilton have been

well received. Keith and David

shared hosting the extremely

popular ‘Healing Hour’ on Liberty

Radio. Other regular radio slots

included Mercury with Kevin

Spector.

During one appearance on Talk

Radio, London, with Russell

Grant, Keith's accuracy was so

stunning the switchboard was

jammed with callers!

We really appreciate Keith

offering us an insight into his

work and if you would like to read

more about his events and ap-

pearances please visit his website

http://www.keithcharles.biz/

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Contact me through my website or directly for

further details about bookings.

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The Queen Mary Psychic & Paranormal Researcher Erika Frost gives The Paranormal Press

an insight to … RMS Queen Mary , Long Beach California

Launched upon 26th September 1934 by her

majesty Queen Mary , the liner was Cunards express

transatlantic passenger ship - with regular crossings

from Southampton to New York. During her long

service the liner carried over two million passengers,

acted as a troop carrier during world war two until

she was sold in 1967 to the city of Long Beach,

California , where she has remained to this day.

The liner has always had stories of paranormal

activity, passengers reporting ghostly sightings and

unexplained sounds , so who best to ask for more

information about these reports that the resident

paranormal researcher for the Queen Mary;

Erika Frost for the last seven years has guided

visitors through the liner for paranormal

investigations, so I asked Erika about her journey

upon the Queen Mary. Erika explained that her

involvement was through a series of events, from

losing her mom when she was a girl to an near death

experience from a car accident. “I've always had an

innate "knowing" of something bigger out there”

So, how does someone manage to secure a job on

board the ship leading paranormal investigations?

Well Erika explained to me that it was an unusual

route to employment “I think it was through a series

of Divinely guided events, lol! I accidentally ran into

the CFO back in 2005 when a friend of mine and I

were exploring the ship at 3am. Through explaining

why we were in places we weren't supposed to be

we started conversation and next thing I know I'm

the ships resident paranormal investigator.”

Having such a unique venue to investigate for the

last seven years I wanted to know what the best

experiences Erika has witnessed, “Being there as

long as I have has given me opportunity to

experience, as well as, witness others experience all

kinds of things, from minor noises to having

physical altercations with things unseen so it's hard

to pick out just one thing - All I can say is that

strange and unusual things happen there all the time.

Thinking about the amount of reported activity on board

I was keen to know Erika’s thoughts about the actual

people behind the ghostly tales. “There are a lot of

reported ghosts, however my experience has led me to

John (an 18 yr old crew member that got caught in door

13 down in the Engine Room). He's a playful "person in

transition" and can be a lot of fun to have around. There

are others but he is the one that I have gotten to know

and understand the most” Erika does not only rely upon

her ability as a psychic but during her investigations uses

scientific equipment to try and make contact with the

ghostly residents on board. I was interested in her

reasons for adopting this approach, “well it helps me

realize I'm not going crazy, she laughed “it confirms the

voices that I hear are out side of me.

Asking if she could give me an example of using the

approach of psychic and Scientifics . “I had an experience

where I heard a little girl calling for her mom in spirit form

so I asked her to show me where she was and at the same

time a friend of mine was working with a Thermal cam.

While I was talking with her his camera caught visual

shoes of hers (little Mary Jane shoes from her time period)

in red, toe to toe, with mine. And then I felt her pass

through me (which was also captured on his camera). It

was the first time I had ever worked with equipment and

up until that time I had always wondered if the voices I

heard were real.”

RMS Queen Mary - at her home in California

By Pete Collins

It really changed my life being able to see on a scientific

piece of equipment what I heard and felt. It also changed

the perspective of my friend. I was no longer the crazy

lady that heard voices”,

So what about the future for Erika, after working on TV

shows as the Sci Fi Channel’s “Ghost Hunters,” the

Travel Channel’s “Most Haunted,” KCAL Channel 9’s

“Lisa’s It List,” “Tyra Banks,” National Geographic and

Discovery’s “Haunted Ships.” She has also been heard

on international radio on “Coast to Coast AM With

George Norry,” Beyond Investigations KBIM Talk

Radio and has been featured in various newspaper and

magazine articles around the world.

Erika talked about her thoughts on this by saying;

“Professionally I have been working on a book about my

ghost hunting adventures and helping the Queen Mary to

re open the Paranormal Research Centre so that others

have a place learn, explore and share what haunts the

dark depths! Personally, My plans are to continue living

in the present for as long as I can because it truly is a gift

to be here and to try and share that thought with as many

people as I can.”

It was a real pleasure to chat with Erika about her role as

The Queen Mary’s resident paranormal investigator. The

investigation tours aboard the liner run every Friday

from midnight. My final thought was a quote from Erika

about her investigation format was the use of both a

psychic and scientific approach. When discussing her

work with those who are scientifically minded she says,

"Together we can learn from each other and come to a

more meaningful and deeper understanding, one that

benefits not only the intellect, but the soul. Maybe we

will then marvel at our own energy, the energy that may

one day be left behind by us all"

RMS Queen Mary. Reported Paranormal Activity

For many years numerous reports of ghosts and

unusual, unexplained activity has been reported ,

here is just some of the onboard sightings and

personal experiences. It has been reported that the

old former playroom on board has the spirits of

children , however whether this a general percep-

tion no one has really established if this is just a

rumour or indeed a source of activity from another

sighting. The original first class swimming pool

area has been noted for noted for many sightings

one in particular is that of a little girl holding a

teddy bear, when any form of interaction is at-

tempted she disappears - maybe back to the play-

room?

Other sightings within the swimming pool complex

on board are those of wet footprints seen around

the pool side, some thing you expect in an area of

water , but the pool has been drained of water for

many years, other people have witnessed the ghosts

of two females in this area and the sounds of

someone splashing in water. The documented death

of a teenager named John Pedder has led to other

stories of ghosts and hauntings. According to the

stories, the boy died on the ship during the 1960's

and is still believed to haunt the ship. He is often

spotted wearing his old coveralls, and walking in

the engine room. The engine room of the Queen

Mary is also rumoured to be haunted. A story sug-

gests that two men were killed in this area when a

door abruptly came down on them. The ghost of

John Pedder is one of those two men.

A ghostly woman in a white dress is often spotted

in the Queen's Salon. And, finally a man from the

1930's who sometimes appears in the first-class

staterooms. This man is believed to be responsible

for wreaking some havoc on guests. He causes the

phone to ring at odd hours, turns taps on and lights

on and off.

You can book your paranormal Investigation with

Erika Frost via The Queen Mary Website.

Queen Mary Tours

The empty first class swimming pool

INVESTIGATION SPOTLIGHT

God’s House Tower, Southampton

Mystery, un explained noises and

sightings of ghostly figures witnessed

within the old Medieval cells - got us

thinking about holding an overnight

paranormal investigations of a unique

building owned by Southampton City

Council - God’s House Tower.

Built in 1417 God’s House Tower once

formed part of the defensive walls

around the city , it’s chequered history

and numerous different roles over the

years gave our two researches plenty to

get their teeth into for what was to

become a night not to forget.

The building is divided up into various

different rooms and not much structural

change has really occurred . Our two

mediums for the night were

Kathy Bavister and Andy Ford , some

of the information they picked up was

quite relevant to the research we had

undertaken . It was of interest that an

impression they had was the building

being used as a hospital or people

inside the building receiving treatment,

although there are no specific records

of this the building next door St Julian's

Church built in the same era was indeed

used as a place known in the olden days

as a hospital.

During the time when the Tower was

used a the city goal, housed within

small six feet by six feet cells was up to

four or five prisoners, conditions were

so bad that various reports criticised the

running of the goal , but this area where

the cells are seemed to be one the most

active parts of the building . During one

experiment and vigil , some thing

happened to which this day causes great

debate with the team and our guests

who helped us undertake the nights

vigil.

Numerous experiments were

undertaken during the night ,

using night vision cameras,

thermal image cameras ,

séances just to name a few.

Different reports of people

hearing a dragging noise , to

footsteps being heard in

rooms was all leading us to

the old cell areas.

God’s House Tower.

Investigation Date. 30/10/2010

Time 10pm - 06am

Haunted Southampton Team

plus 20 guests.

Psychic Team

Andy Ford & Kathy Bavister

God’s House Tower

Having complete un-restricted access to the building enabled us to

undertake some experiments upon the roof. The actual spiral steps

leading to the outdoor areas , numerous people felt quite un easy upon

one particular step , feelings of being sick and dizzy being reported , it

was an area several hours ago when the two mediums walked around

on their own that was noted for potential activity.

There was an impression of a person falling to their death from the

roof, this was from Kathy and during the night the roof area seemed to

be an area where people felt quite un easy - whether this was an

association to the person falling or the fact that it is quite high is always

for debate. However , for most of the people feeling cold and un-easy

upon the third step is of note and interest , yet no explanation can be

offered for this.

The Old Cells;

Myself and a few others decided to start a

vigil in the area where the old cells are

located , this was about 3-15am.

At first it seem quite steady going as we

were asking out for any movement or

interaction with us , having set up a few

temperature and hygrometers within the

room we were surprised to notice a very

quick environmental change in this area.

Research suggests that when any ghosts or

spirits are within close proximity the

temperature will drop and humidity will

increase , this is what was starting to occure.

Within the corner of the room where two old

cells were used during the Victorian times

we could all hear tapping noises in response

to questions being asked , the tapping

seemed responsive , non rhythmic which

should rule out any machinery noise.

Within a time frame of about fifteen minutes

the temperature had dropped by ten degrees

the sound of what seemed to be shuffling

feet was heard from the cell areas and tem-

perature was swinging from hot to cold as if

some thing was moving around us.

Using the thermal image camera we were

able to track the movement of the cold areas

and noting the different swings in

temperature. Asking the person who was

holding the thermal camera to take pictures

of where we could all hear the shuffling I

think we were all a bit taken aback at what

was being revealed to us. The thermal

showed what looked like the outline of a per-

son crouched down in the cell area.

As with all things related to the

paranormal explanations can be

offered to what is occurring as

natural occurrence , the image is

taken in real time and only up-

loaded through Flukes thermal

software - is it the image of a

person in the cells well who

knows , taking into considera-

tion of all the other things

occurring at the same time it is a

picture of interest .

The God’s House Tower investigation was one of those venues

that offered more questions than answers. The audible sounds

heard during the night by many different people was of real

interest . The upstairs corridor that was just wide enough for one

person to walk through was an area of note. Loud thumbing noises

were recorded at least twice during the night - the council staff

who volunteered to stay with us all night had not heard these in

the past , but there again no people have really stayed overnight in

the tower for many many years most probably last time was

during the second world war.

We are still researching the possibility of people falling from the

roof and the Celine , which seemed to come up several times dur-

ing the night either through the use of séance boards and a name

mentioned by one of the psychic mediums when the building was

empty prior to everyone turning up.

The time was right for investigating God’s House, the building is

now being used for storage and no longer open to the public. All

of it’s artefacts have been moved to the new Sea City Museum

and the future of the building remains unclear. I guess one thing

that can’t be moved to the new city museums is the old built into

the walls prison cells and maybe the ghosts of those who were

locked up inside and like to re visit now and again .

Read The Full Report

You Can read the full

investigation report on

line and see more pictures

and outcomes of the

investigation at

Gods House Tower

Read Here

Front Entrance to God’s House Tower

Editors Thoughts

Since the last issue of the Paranormal Press I have been surprised who has

contacted me offering to write articles for the journal. I think it is really good

to network with different people within the industry and to find out different

peoples points of view , different paranormal experiments they are currently

developing and various ways to investigate.

I was recently asked to join a local group of very enthusiastic investigators

who were undertaking an evening vigil in Winchester. I was made very

welcome and enjoyed the opportunity to meet like minded people.

From the very early days of Haunted Southampton time has always been an

issue so, it was nice to have an evening of being able to relax , my appreciation to Mike & Hayley for their

hospitality. It has been great fun talking with Erika about the Queen Mary, some time ago it was suggested

that the liner be towed back to Southampton as a tourist attraction, however the fortunes of The Queen Mary

have turned a corner and the amount of events on board is just amazing, just shows what you can do with a

bit of thought.

The investigations of Season four start on Saturday 8th September. Myself and the team have been working it

seems non stop visiting venues, following up on stories of ghostly activity and planning the next ten events.

On top of that, the arranging of The Southampton Ghost Walks with Derek has really paid off and I hope it is

some thing together we can plan to look at different events to host, the idea of investigating the vaults is

really quite exciting for us, as Southampton has a network of medieval underground areas , reading one

publication recently, it aligned the vaults to the wonderful underground areas of York.

A few thanks to several people over the last few months, to James and Becky whose house is the focal point

for all of our team meetings, sometimes a quick hour meeting leads into us realising the time and it is 1am in

the morning , the agenda seems to get longer and longer so I think I owe them a few pints of milk and a box

of tea bags. I know we are all looking forward to season four , I wonder what paranormal activity can be

witnessed , photographed, recorded and discussed over the next nine months , thank you for your continued

support and we all hope to see you soon for the night in some venue that the owners are reporting ghosts -

well as always together we can offer them a very experienced opinion.

News

Local author James Marsh has a new book due out soon Not a Guide to Southampton . There are a number of

ghost stories within James’s look at the city of Southampton. Hopefully we can have another interview soon

with James to discuss what his new book looks like and its content.

Ghosts in the papers… Is there any truth in the Chinese folklore that during the Zhong Yuan festival the

gates of hell are opened allowing all wandering and suffering spirits to enter the earthy realm? I found this

interesting article within the Malaysian press Read the full article here

Notre Dame, ghost breeding ground ? Some interesting thoughts about universities and alleged hauntings

around the world … Full article here

The Willard Library Ghost Cams were inspired by the question "Is Willard Library Haunted? One of my

favourite ghost cam viewing sites - http://libraryghost.com/

Contributors Erika Frost

Erika Frost is a paranormal media

personality and psychic. She spent

several years working on various

projects aboard the Queen Mary.

www.erikafrost.com/

Penny Legg Andy Ford

Juliet Collins

James Lysandrides

Lura Ketchledge

Ron Fabiani

Writer, Editor, Photographer, Tutor.

I am a British author, journalist and

writing tutor. I also take the

photographs to illustrate my books

and articles. I am the editor of

Bulletin magazine and I tutor non-

fiction students for the University of

the third Age. I am the founder of

Writing Buddies, the group for writ-

ers in Southampton. I run workshops

and give talks on aspects of writing ,

my life and work.

www.pennylegg.com

Psychic Medium

I am an experienced psychic medium

and Tarot reader. I undertake

paranormal investigations and work

as an individual running workshops

and public demonstrations. I also

take personal booking for 1-1

readings.

www.andy-ford.com/

Location Manager - working for

Haunted Southampton Ltd .

Taking the role to source new venues

for the undertaking of various events

and paranormal investigations.

Contact via E mail to discuss venue

location

E Mail Here

Company director at

Haunted Southampton.

Researcher and article writer of

paranormal investigation reports.

Paranormal author and movie

producer based in Kentucky, USA

www.luraketch.com/

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Keith Charles

As well as being a former Metro-

politan Police CID officer, I have

continued to blend both my

Spiritual and material worlds

helping Law Enforcement Officers

and Investigators worldwide. I

love demonstrating my Spiritual

gifts at venues all over the world. I

look forward to meeting you at one

of my events

www.keithcharles.biz/

Ron has been intrigued by the

Paranormal for many years. Since

1987, Ron has enjoyed tours of many

notoriously haunted areas around

Chicago-land. Investigator with

Chicago Paranormal Detectives.

www.chicagoparanormaldetectives.com

Margaret Bartlett

Paranormal Investigator based

in Australia .

Writer of paranormal articles

and investigates with ;

West Australian Paranormal

Researcers

www.waparanormal.webs.com/

Readers Thoughts

Hi , my name is Margaret Bartlett , I go on regular ghost

hunts with a wonderful West Australian paranormal team and

like to do write ups on as many of them as I can. I do write

slightly tongue in cheek but I find that is a nice alternative to

what can be an in-depth topic. I have written previously and

submitted articles for a paranormal magazine.

Now it isn’t every day you can drive past a suburban

cemetery and witness a car park full of black clad, giggling

girls and boys. Of the adult variety of course, we would never

condone having your young children out in the cold, dark

night to go looking for ghosties and ghoulies. And to those

that may offer their little darlings for the purpose of scaring

off any unwanted entities (either of the deceased or living

kind) we wish to thank you in advance and kindly point out

that our own little darlings are on call for such a purpose.

For those that have had the opportunity to tread the late night

board walks with WAPR you would be well versed in the tra-

ditional welcome committee that usually greets you as you

arrive at the night’s location. (For those that haven’t yet had

the experience I would recommend jotting your name down

when you see that familiar hunt roll call, unless of course

you’re out of area. WAPR loves all of their members but

waiting for your plane to arrive at the airport may cause seri-

ous hunt delays and to be honest I don’t think the “hunt, hunt,

hunt” chant can be carried on that long without serious voice

and throat damage).

But back to the story! Imagine if you will, pulling into the

cemetery car park (with the obligatory RRR! Bang noise….

Yes the jerking forward motion must accompany the sound

effect), opening the car door and finding yourself face to face

with team WAPR! (Remember guys not to approach strange

people in dark car parks unless you are familiar with them,

WAPR are recognisable by the shirts they wear which bear

the team name).

For this particular outing core members Mr Gary Anderson,

Miss Monique Pitchford, Mrs Ally Slade, Mrs Amanda

Moloney, Mr Brad Stoneman , Mr Jay Nowicki and the

ghosts and spirits of Rockingham were our hosts. While

Rockingham isn’t our biggest cemetery it can certainly pack a

paranormal punch. Stories of giggling girls, shadow people

and a general uneasiness have accompanied almost all trips to

this site.

Photographs have revealed the unseen and

voice recorders have carried the words of the

departed to the ears of the living. But would the

ghosts of ‘Rocko’ step through the veil once

more for this visit?

After gathering for pre-hunt introductions and

instructions it was time to step over the small

linked chain that ran across the entrance path.

Jokes of having to make a dash back out of the

cemetery and forgetting the chain was there

resulting in a firm face plant were passed

around . Either side of the main path sat

decades worth of headstones. To the right head-

lights from a passing car lit up the darkened

headstones, leaving the rest of the grounds in an

eerie shadow that seemed to creep around those

further in.

Following the brick path the reality of where we

were standing became apparent when a neatly

mounded plot of Earth glimmered into view un-

der the torch lights. To view headstones that

have stood for decades can be awe striking but

here before us was freshly moved earth.

Thoughts and images of a mourning family

walking the same path we had just walked were

not hard to conjure.

The dried wreathe that would have been placed

so lovingly had fallen to the side. Footprints in

the surrounding sand showed the last and very

final walk taken to carry home a loved one.

A second paved path intersected the first, pine

trees lined either side. With the waxing moon

sitting high in the sky the shadows skipped

from between each tree. Camera flashes broke

up the remaining darkness, the occasional gasp

could be heard as something not seen was cap-

tured.

Floating mists across the corner of photographs

(for those interested Amanda captured a very

interesting one and I am sure would be more

than willing to share) were scrutinized. Shots of

random exhales were taken over and over again

in an attempt to rule out any natural cause. A

ghost hunters best friend can be an analytical

mind!

Standing just beyond the intersection point of

the two paths two members had bobbed down

into the excited ‘Did you see that?’ pose.

(For those that wish to assume this position on

future hunts it is best achieved by placing legs

shoulder width apart, bending both knees and

leaning forward as if trying to look underneath a

table from a standing position. If a demonstration

is required I am sure that one of our lovely core

members would be more than willing to oblige).

“Did you see that?”

“You mean that shadow that looked like someone

walking?”

“Yeah that’s the one”

As if a war cry had been sounded they jumped

forward quickly looking for the source of what

they had seen. Nothing. Only the sound of

laboured breathing caused by a mixture of heavy

damp air and excitement could be heard. The only

moving shadows were those caused by the

flickering light of the torches as those close by lit

up the area. Now to be fair if I was a shadow

person and I saw ghost hunters leap at me I would

promptly disappear to. With that in mind perhaps

our first ghostly presence of the night was shy.

The first sightings of the night caused a ripple of

excitement, instinctively falling into small groups

each headed off in different directions. Further

along the main path a gazebo stood with an almost

unwelcoming air. How many broken hearts and

tear stained faces had stood under its shelter could

have been anyone’s guess. The wooden beams

seemed to curl and gnarl under the darkness as if

something foreboding and unforgivable had taken

place to leave a scarring on it.

The far right hand corner of the cemetery sat

further back than any other point. Bordered by a

wire fence strung between pine poles it was by far

the loneliest spot. Just beyond the fence bushes

and trees looked as though they had many secrets

to hide. Somewhere out of sight just beyond the

edges of the bush and trees a railway line lay, only

detectable by the grinding and groans it made

when the large freight trains passed over top of it.

In the far opposite corner to the left of the

cemetery a small group had gathered. It is in this

corner that numerous people have reported the

giggling of a small child. Something that I would

personally attest to having heard on a previous

hunt.

Sitting with hands linked Ally Slade lead the conversation.

To the left of them a small child’s grave sat. K2 meters sat

either side of the small grave in an attempt to gain any kind

of visual proof. Voice recorders were switched on, waiting

for the illusive, silent interruption in the conversation.

“She wants to know where her Mummy is”

Speaking softly as if to her own child Ally explained she

didn’t. For any Mother to listen to the heartbreak in a child’s

voice as she looks for her Mummy , it can be an emotionally

draining experience. The urge to want to hold her and cuddle

her would have to be pushed aside, knowing the only comfort

that could be offered were kind words.

Chitter chatter of children singing, a young boy coming to

comfort the small wee girl when she became sad and wanted

her Mummy, ghostly footsteps and phantom pinches on the

bottom (yes the other side can have a sense of humour) were

passed around the small group. Ally’s voice wavering under

the emotion as the little girl would once more asked where

her Mummy was.

“She says her Mummy is very sick”

“She wants her Mummy”.

With her repeated requests for her Mummy going

unanswered our little visitor fell silent.

With the rest of the chatter finally falling silent Ally made

her way to another area to work with another group, leaving

the small group still seated next to the small grave in awe of

her talent.

The K2 meters that had sat silently suddenly burst into life.

For a minute or two the group became excited that perhaps

there was still something or someone trying to make contact.

Falling silent again our hopes had been dashed. (For the

record Ally made her way back to the group and reported that

the little girl had followed her and she had sent her back to

our group. The time, could be matched to the moments the

K2 had sprung to life).

After an emotionally challenging, cheeks hurting from

laughter, nose chillingly two hours it was time to pack up the

equipment and gather together for pictures and goodbyes

(for anyone that has been before this can take a minimum of

at least another hour. Miss Neeks we are looking at your

giggling ways !).

Final cuddles and kisses goodbye and we were locked safely

back into our cars ready for the trip home where we could

curl up into our warm beds and have dreams of ghostly

visitations.

Current Project Spotlight

The Southampton Ghost Walks Part 2

James Lysandrides

When the opportunity came along to work with Derek

Challaghan for our Southampton Ghost Walk it was

always a thought of the team to consider other options for

people to explore the city.

Our second set of walks and mini investigations takes a

different look into the ghost stories of the city’s

underground vaults -

The Subterranean Mini Paranormal Investigations

We have put together a unique opportunity to explore the

medieval vaults underneath the city streets. Many stories

about the vaults have always interested us as a team so

we would like to undertake a few mini experiments to

find out who is haunting these underground areas.

Tickets can be booked on line or by e mail . To book online visit the Haunted Southampton Ghost Walk page here

Haunted Southampton Ghost Walks or E mail petercollins@hauntedsouthampton.com Cost £10 pp.

You can

Please remember to wear comfortable shoes and bring your cameras , camcorders and a torch, you never know what

you may capture during the investigations.

The walk is led by Derek Callaghan, a professional

Green Badge Tourist Guide and member of the Institute

of Tourist Guiding.

Starting in October we will be offering two dates for these events.

These evenings are not for those who have any mobility difficulty as

entrance to several of the vaults involves deep spiral staircases down

underground , or those of a nervous disposition or suffer from any

forms of claustrophobia.

During the evening we will be visiting three vaults , each having

their own historic tales and ghost stories. Undertaking a few

experiments in each vault we hope to make contact with these

ghostly figures and try to find out more .

Numbers are extremely limited for each event - cost per person £10.

Guest Contributor Writer & Movie Producer Lura Ketchledge writes for The Paranormal Press

Lifeline from Beyond the Grave

Is there a place between the living and dead a sort of vantage point where

your loved ones watch over you after they have died? Before 1994 that

kind of question never crossed my mind.

Back then I knew there was life after death .I knew ghosts were real

and the physical world was a school with mandatory attendance. How I

knew these truths is a long story, a story best told in another article.

I was sick really sick and tired of paying medical bills with money

I didn’t have. My sense of humor was just as shot as my nerves and part of

me wished the process of kicking the bucket would hurry up.

Like a bad novel I was allergic to the only drug prescribed for the

auto immune disease that had taken my youth. I quit my immune

suppressing medication and opted out of chemo drugs all together. The

details of my decline aren’t important. I will tell you I did all the right

things, went to the hospital when I should and kept my doctors up dated on

the dreary, miserable symptoms of my illness. So far I was miserable but

not dying.

When I didn’t think it could get any worse it did. One day like a

light switch being turned on my stomach was hot to the touch and all I

wanted to do was lay on a cold floor on my stomach. After an expensive

round of tests I was told I wasn’t in any danger and other than an enlarged

liver and a bad attitude. So medically speaking I was treading water just

fine.

Two months later I woke up and he was in my room. Not to be too

mysterious the person that came to my room was a relative that I loved and

knew well .A relative that had died a long time ago. He looked the same as

when he was alive down to the plaid flannel shirt he wore and his neatly

pressed paints. I couldn’t move or talk as he walked toward me, my only

reaction was surprise laced with gratitude. More than anything I was

grateful he hadn’t forgotten me. Like a bolt of lightening running through

me I felt his concern for me. Then he put his hand on my belly and said

your spleen, your spleen. Just as he finished those words he was gone and I

was alone in my bedroom with tears streaming down my face.

Part of me didn’t care what he said only that he had come back to

see me. The logical part of me wondered where in my body was my

spleen? Several days later as I was waking up I heard someone whisper

spleen, spleen. A few days later the same thing happened again.

Now I was worried. I could no longer ignore the message, I knew

instinctively it was time to act or I would die. I chose a doctor who knew

that I wasn’t a cry baby about my illness. I flat out told him that I was go-

ing to die if I didn’t have my spleen surgically removed .I joked that it was

a shame that I couldn’t cut it out my self and skip the expensive hospital

bill! Sometimes a little gallows humor injected into a tense, dark subject

doesn’t hurt. I told my doctor in a round about way what had transpired. I

was careful not to mention more than the message. I was quick to cut out

the part where I received a

burst of emotion from the ghost. He

quietly wrote me a physicians order for

the operation .Something told me

inside he had heard stories like mine

before. He was more open to the super-

natural then any doctor I had ever met.

Waking up after the deed had

been done I wondered if the ghost had

done me a favor. I felt like I had been

gutted like a fish and stitched together

bailing wire. I was in hellish pain and

unable to take any pain killers .To

make matters worse my room mate had

pneumonia and guess what I got

double pneumonia too.

After the operation I learned

just how close I had come to dying.

My spleen had been bleeding for

months and formed a large blood clot.

There is no medical reason that my

spleen did not bleed out considering I

was taking blood thinning medication

for the pain. I was thirty four years old

then and would never have seen thirty

five if I hadn’t had my spleen re-

moved.

My doctors had missed what a

ghost did not miss. A ghost that loves

me reached out from beyond the grave

to save my life.

Lura ketchledge

Paranormal Press Talks To……………..

Star of the smash U.S television series Paranormal Cops.

Ron Fabiani

Interview by Journalist Tracy Collins

Journalist Tracy Collins asked Ron about his

journal into the paranormal

In 2003, Ron responded to a 911 call from the

owner of a local bar who was complaining to the

police about some strange goings on in his prem-

ises. Ron attended the call out, and listened as the

bar owner explained he was sick and tired of the

ghostly apparitions that were frightening his

customers away. “I thought it was all a bit over the

top,” says Ron, “but I decided to return to the scene

in my own time with a couple of friends and a Sony

camcorder and just sat there with it. I was

completely convinced nothing would happen.”

But not even the hard-core, tough, but sassy,

Chicago land police sergeant was prepared for what

happened in the bar that night. “I ended up filming

a 3D figure, much like what was reported,” recalls

Ron. “

“I ended up filming a 3D figure, much like what

was reported,” recalls Ron. “ A three dimensional

object that actually interacted with me. It had the

density of black nylon - transparent, but not

transparent, if you know what I mean.

None of us could find the point of origin, explain it

or recreate it. We tried, a lot, returning many times

to the bar, constantly reviewing the video, showing

it to everyone to see who could come up with an

answer, but nobody could figure it out”

In the end, the bar owner barred Ron from the

premises- stating that most of his customers were

of Hispanic descent, naturally superstitious, and it

was in fact Ron and his investigators that were now

causing the problem. “He said we were freaking the

customers out” laughs Ron, “that our presence was

causing more trouble than the ghost because the

Hispanics are a deeply superstitious bunch of peo-

ple, and they thought we were making the situation

worse.

All the staff quit because they were so scared of the

paranormal. He told us to go away and not come

back”.

Not deterred by the embarrassment of being one of the

cops thrown out and barred from the local pub, Ron

was still perplexed by the encounter he had

experienced at the Tapas bar. He says: “I could not

stop thinking if things like this are happening here,

they could be happening anywhere.”

And it was then that the Chicago Paranormal Detec-

tives materialised; a team of fully trained investiga-

tors who would by day be cops, and by night investi-

gate reports of paranormal activity on the streets of

Chicago. “We are all sceptical, but we do all believe

in the paranormal,” says Ron. “There is proof of the

paranormal and that is something that in itself can’t

be explained. Since I have been involved in this job, I

have been forced to rethink everything I ever thought

I knew. This entire field is based on speculation.

I cannot reasonably or realistically tell you what can

or cannot happen. We don’t know the limits, we push

the limits. That’s why and how we investigate. I am

by instinct a policeman. I need evidence. I don’t care

what people say, I want them to show me.”

Despite the locker room humour dished

out by their fellow officers, in 2008 Tom

Froelich, another member of the

investigating team, telephoned Ron about

creating a TV show about the Chicago

Paranormal Detectives. Initially Ron

refused: “I was convinced it would never

go anywhere,” he laughs “but I was

wrong.” Tom persisted with the idea and

Fabs finally agreed-and the hit TV series,

Paranormal Cops, became a reality.

Today the team consists of investigators

Ron, Tom Froelich, Austin Weinstock,

Pete Schleich, investigative assistant,

Scot Ziarko and medium Cindi Muntz.

The team only investigates paranormal

activity on request, and even then all

applications must meet a certain thresh-

old.

And it is one big threshold.

“We don’t just take on anything”,

explains Ron. “We have a strict set of

criteria- for example we won’t carrying

out an investigation in a busy hotel room

because there would be electrical

interference from modern day appliances.

It would affect the equipment we use so

there is no point. Our investigations are

treated like crime scenes. Anything that

could contaminate evidence has to be

eliminated, and if it can’t be, then we

don’t investigate it.”

And Ron, infamous for always having a

cigar hanging from his bottom lip, is not

afraid to admit that he has himself been

spooked by some of the things he has

seen.

“Sure,” he says in his slow American drawl,” I’ve been frightened on

the inside but I don’t show it. It’s a police thing- we disconnect from

emotion. You don’t have the luxury of being able to cry, be sick or

run away screaming like some little girl. I have been intrigued,

unsettled- but I keep it on the inside. When you are in the moment

you just accept what’s going on- it’s beyond comprehension. But,

yeah. I’ve been frightened, sure I have.”

Despite dealing with hardened criminals and paranormal activity on a

daily basis, it is not being shot or coming face to face with a demon

that really frightens Ron.

“My biggest fear is how I can juggle everything, my children are my

main priority and I don’t see them enough as it is.” A father of four,

Ron likes to spend what spare time he does have with his children.

He has also formed a band called Open Key with Austin Weinstock

and performs original rock acoustics. Ron really hopes the band will

take off, and the Chicago Paranormal Detectives are currently in

negotiations with a production company about another TV venture.

“The band is what we hope will really work,” he says “that or TV.

We are geographically limited because we are policemen. We are

tied to the job. I am a policeman and a father. I can’t abandon my

life and have stars in my eyes. I’ll just see what the future holds: I

don’t know. If it all takes off then that’s great, but if it all falls flat,

then, hey, that’s ok too.”

The Paranormal Press - A huge thanks to Tracy Collins for

undertaking the interview ,

Much more information about the team , current news and more can

be found via their website

http://www.chicagoparanormaldetectives.com/

Ways To Contact The Dead

The appliance of science within paranormal investigations By Peter Collins

During any paranormal investigation it would make good practice to

look at the various pieces of equipment used to try and establish or even

discount if any paranormal activity is occurring.

So often I see or am made aware of some thing new coming onto the

market that is supposed to enhance the toolbox of any paranormal

investigator and often I am quite surprised when items are for sale, the

strange price when some thing is labelled for ghost detection. In my

experience often the eyes and ears are the best pieces of equipment ,

however I do enjoy using equipment as I nor the Haunted Southampton

team claim any psychic ability. Here is some of our thoughts about the

specific equipment we use during investigations.

Tips for using Thermal Camera

Make sure you focus the lens using

the adjustable dials.

The Fluke camera can scan an area

in three different palettes easily

selected to suit your likes.

Try and keep the camera still or

move slowly if sweeping an area for

any activity.

When taking pictures of any po-

tential activity try and take two im-

ages for future reference.

Thermal Image Camera

Owning a Fluke thermal camera has enabled us and our

guests an opportunity to investigate venues at a different

level. The camera we use has three different pallet settings

which enable you to scan and record images of areas with

potential paranormal activity.

Thermal cameras enable you to view an area in a spectrum

that is beyond our own eyes, even recording in zero lux

environments. The main focus is to establish heat residue or

examine potential cold areas , some times for a natural

explanation for example if people felt an area was becom-

ing colder - the camera can establish cold air sources or

scan a person to examine exactly if this is a form of

psychological thought of coldness or if indeed temperature

is dropping in a specific area.

Capturing heat residue is also an area you can examine - if

for example is noted for the footsteps of ghosts then any

heat / or indeed cold imprints can be easily recorded.

Often during investigations people have felt they have been

touched - again the thermal camera can establish exactly if

this phenomena is occurring. Although the cameras are

extremely expensive , the benefits to record real time

activity during an investigation saves time and resources as

the on the spot ability to discount paranormal activity is

crucial. There again , the opportunity to capture evidence is

for us fascinating, the cameras are extremely popular for

our guests to use during our events.

The software that comes with all Fluke thermal

cameras is the extra addition to the expense.

Post investigation analysis using the software is

of such high quality, we are often amazed at the

pictures we have captured , are they paranormal

activity ?

Well have a look and see what you think for

yourself.

Are these the footsteps of a ghost ? Taken dur-

ing our investigation of Northwood Manor. The

picture was taken during a vigil within the old

caretakers flat - no one was walking around the

room , so who or what was causing this heat

residue on the floor?

In The Next Issue October , the time for Halloween,

Paranormal Press looks at the myths and legends surrounding this time of year and the different ways it is celebrated

around the world.

Psychic Medium

Tony Stockwell

Talks to the Press

The Edinburgh Vaults

An insiders view into the ghost

stories and reports of ghostly

sightings deep underground the city

of Edinburgh

Investigation Spotlight

We report upon a recent

investigation of ;

Northwood Manor House

Do you have a story?

If you would like to write an article for the Paranormal Press about your experiences of the paranormal please

contact via e mail.

If you own a venue that has any ghostly activity occurring then maybe you would like to share with us or if you

are involved in mediumship , develop different paranormal experiments or just interested in investigating the

world of paranormal experiences we would love to hear about it.

Articles can be sent in “ Microsoft Word Format” and contain about 300 words , any pictures you have or may

want to share then send us a line. Pictures can be sent in either Jpeg or Png format.

Contact here via E Mail

© Paranormal Press is the journal for Haunted Southampton Ltd.

Juliet Writes It Down Thinking inside the box.

The other day I found myself with some free time (a rare occurrence round here) and decided to catch up on some

of the more spooky shows I have recently recorded. Settling upon an American offering that claimed it followed a

panel of experts attempting to debunk various local legends, I snuggled down under the blanket with a cuppa and a

couple of Pete’s legendary bourbons (don’t tell him) to enjoy the show.

Unfortunately at the end of half an hour I was stood on the sofa yelling at the TV – practically jumping up and

down with frustration. The story goes that a local legend in a small town somewhere in the USA tells of a terrible

accident – a school bus full of children broke down on a level crossing and was hit by a high speed train, killing all

inside including the driver. But now it seemed that if your car broke down or indeed stopped on the approach to

the lines, it would mysteriously roll up the incline and across the tracks, ending up well out of harm’s way, with no

visible means of propulsion. If you left the hand brake off.

For the entire second half off the show ( the first half was about eerie lights that appeared in the sky at certain times

in another out of the way town) I watched, increasingly irritated, as they proceeded to roll the car without and then

with occupants across the lines, then cleaned it, did it again and dusted it for fingerprints. Then they rustled up a

large yellow school bus and repeated the whole procedure, with a large advert break in the middle (thank God for

fast forward). Endless repeats of the previous clips followed, and then they dug up the geological reports of the

area in case there was a large deposit of magnetically charged natural material in the vicinity, and then the area was

photographed and checked for EMF readings, and the entire time I was yelling “GET A B****Y SPRIT

LEVEL!!!!” Low and behold they finally get a theodolite and proclaimed that the reason the vehicles magic

themselves across was because the road was actually on a slope downwards, not an incline as it appeared to be and

that the only mysterious force involved was in fact gravity. Wow. It took a panel of ‘experts’ trained in paranormal

investigation to get to the root of that weirdness.

This brings me to the main issue of my annoyance. Not the way that they dragged it out when the solution was

obvious, or that it was a blatant way of filling airtime and making something mundane seem incredible. It was the

way that they assumed that we would sit, mouths open, dazzled by their ‘professionalism’, as if we did not have a

brain in our skulls that made me madder than anything else. There they were checking geological reports and finger

print dusting, thinking themselves right out of their boxes. Taking it for granted that we would sit in awe of their

‘expertise’.

As far as I am aware there are no legitimate university courses, no recognised qualifications and no governing

bodies that allow someone to call themselves a ‘professional’ paranormal investigator. There are no experts in this

field – which actually is not even recognised as a field. Most centres of academia usually laugh someone out the

door if they claim to be a ‘ghost hunter’. What we are and what we do is as an amateur. You can be experienced,

casual or just do it for fun, but we are all trying to make our own conclusions and discover our own proof.

Thinking ‘out of the box’ is a modern buzz phrase for making choices and decisions that are not in the usual frame

of reference. Looking for solutions that would not normally be considered. Being daringly different, quirkily un-

usual. And that is what this show was trying to do – make the self professed ‘experts’ seem like incredibly clever

professionals, thinking out of their boxes.

When all they had to do was be normal and look for the simplest answer – the one inside the box. After all – when

you think about it, who are they trying to convince? Us? Or themselves?

Look forward to seeing you soon on an investigation Juliet