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    FIRST PUBLIC EXAMINATION

    Honour Moderations in Classics Courses IA and IC)

    PLATO, EUTHYPHRO AND M E N 0

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    Answ er Q uest ion 1 and TW ot hers

    Marking scheme: Question 1 10 o f overall mark for each translationnd for each commentary (total50 ); other questions, 2 5 each.

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    TRANSLATE and write critical comments on TWOof the following passages,of which a) may not be one,and, WITHOUT TRAN SLATING, write criticalcomments on athird, which may if you wish be a).

    SOCRATES: Then the divinely approved is not holy, Euthyphro, nor is the holy

    EUTHYPHRO: Howso Socrates?SOCRATES: Because weve admitted that the holygets approved for the reason that

    EUTHYPHRO: Yes.SOCRATES: But then again the divinely approved, because itgets approved by the

    gods, isdivinely approvedby this very act o fapproval: t is not the case that itgetsapproved because itsdivinely approved.

    divinely approved, as you say, but its differentfrom this

    its holy, but its not because itgets approved that its holy. Right?

    EUTHYPHRO: That is true.SOCRATES: But i f the divinely approved and the holy were really the same thing,

    Euthyphro my friend, then: i) i f the holy weregetting approved because o f itsbeing holy, then the divinely approved too would begetting approved because ofits being divinely approved; whereas ii) i f the divinely approved weredivinely approved on account o f tsgetting approved by the gods, then the holywould be holy tooo account o f tsgetting approved.

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    A fine wine is one that all wine experts approve of. Does this definitionsuffer from the same problems as Euthyphros definition of the holy d o vas w hatever all the gods approveo f ?

    Does the fact that M eno cannot define excellencefid p ~ how that he doesnot know what it is?

    Is Socrates right that those who desire bad things thinking them to be good infact desire good things Meno 77e3-4)?

    How much of the theory of recollection could you believe if you did notbelieve in reincarnation?

    Ifsom eone asks you the same things many times and in many w ays, youmight become moreconvinced that your answ er is right, but you wont

    necessarily come tok n o w hat it is. Discuss.

    If I do not know what a thing is, how should I know whatsort of thing it is?Meno 7 1b3-4). It looks as if we must considerof w hat sort something is

    when w e dont yet knowwhat it is Meno 86e1-2). Does adoption of thehypothetical method involve dropping the earlier principle that you cant knowwhat sort of thing something is if you dont know what it is?

    Is excellence knowledge?

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