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Omnipotence paradox The omnipotence paradox is generally summed up by the phrase or some form of the phrase "Can God create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it? ". Either God can or can't create the rock. If he can create a rock so big he can't lift it then he's not omnipotent because he can't lift it. If he can't create a rock that big in the first place then he's still not omnipotent. Contents [hide ] 1 Accidental vs. Essential Omnipotence o 1.1 Accidental Omnipotence o 1.2 Essential Omnipotence 2 Moral Limitations o 2.1 God's Free Will o 2.2 God's Nature? o 2.3 Standard of Morality 3 Omnipotence vs omniscience 4 Swinburne's definition o 4.1 Countering Swinburne Accidental vs. Essential Omnipotence The omnipotence paradox may be resolved by stating that God is either accidentally or essentially omnipotent.

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Omnipotence paradoxThe omnipotence paradox is generally summed up by the phrase or some form of the phrase "Can

God create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?". Either God can or can't create the rock. If he can

create a rock so big he can't lift it then he's not omnipotent because he can't lift it. If he can't create a

rock that big in the first place then he's still not omnipotent.

Contents

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1   Accidental vs. Essential

Omnipotence

o 1.1   Accidental

Omnipotence

o 1.2   Essential

Omnipotence

2   Moral Limitations

o 2.1   God's Free Will

o 2.2   God's Nature?

o 2.3   Standard of Morality

3   Omnipotence vs omniscience

4   Swinburne's definition

o 4.1   Countering

Swinburne

Accidental vs. Essential Omnipotence

The omnipotence paradox may be resolved by stating that God is either accidentally or essentially

omnipotent.

Accidental Omnipotence

An accidentally omnipotent God could resolve the paradox by creating a rock so heavy that he can't

lift it and thus, ceases to be omnipotent. In other words, because this God is "omnipotent", this God

can make himself "not omnipotent" anymore. However, one could argue that it's hard to tell if a god

of this sort was ever truly omnipotent or just in possession of great power. One way to reconcile this

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is to suggest that the God is really omnipotent. But just as many of us will not want to drive a knife

through our eyes, God too may not choose to make himself not omnipotent anymore, although he

has the ability to do so. Again, the point that God is not truly omnipotent can be raised. This point,

however, commits the No true Scotsman fallacy. Put simply, an accidentally omnipotent God IS

omnipotent and can thus make himself not omnipotent anymore.

Essential Omnipotence

Essential omnipotence states that it is impossible for the god to be non-omnipotent. Some theists

may argue that God is not "absolutely omnipotent" but is merely "omnipotent". This is an extremely

dishonest use of words, for omnipotence is suppose to be the highest possible attainable state of

power in which the being can acheive anything, and adding the term "absolutely" means nothing.

One can say that God is "absolutely absolutely absolutely omnipotent", which gives a similar empty

effect. Nonetheless, according to Peter Geach, if Y is absolutely omnipotent, then Y "can do

everything absolutely. Everything that can be expressed in a string of words even if it can be shown

to be self-contradictory," Y "is not bound in action, as we are in thought by the laws of logic." (See

Wikipedia: Omnipotence Paradox) On the other hand, being merely "omnipotent" means that Y will

be subjected to the laws of logic. "Absolute omnipotence" will put Y in a precarious position of falling

straight into the omnipotence paradox. Mere "omnipotence", however, shows that Y is unable to

acheive everything anymore, as there is something that Y cannot do, which is to defy the laws of

logic which it has supposedly created formerly. The term "omnipotence" used to described Y will thus

be very misleading.

Moral Limitations

Even if we grant that God can do all things except those which are "logically impossible", there still

seem to be limits on God's abilities in practice, though not prohibited by logic. Can God act in a way

that is evil? By definition, God is supposed to be omnibenevolent, so the answer should be no. Yet

people can do many things that are evil, so clearly being evil is logically possible, but God

supposedly cannot do it. People can commit imperfect acts, so it is logically possible. However, God,

a perfect being, cannot do so, therefore he is not omnipotent. The "ability" to do imperfect things

goes against what we define as perfect. But isn't God who defines perfection? If it is so, then the

statement "god is perfect" is meaningless. As an inductive case, we can say that perfection does not

exist (god created imperfection apparently), therefore God does not exist. There is always room for

improvement, except in the case of a perfect being. However imperfection gives us willpower to act

and improve, which God cannot possess. If God's activity is asserted, then perfection must be

eliminated.

God's Free Will

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Apologists may respond to the above argument by stating that it isn't that God can't do evil, it's just

that he always uses his perfect free-will to choose not to. This, of course, raises the question of why

God didn't create humans the same way. It would be a good solution to the problem of evil.

God's Nature?

Another answer to the above argument is the assertion that being good is "God's nature," and He

can only do things that aren't against His own nature. At this point, the concept of omnipotence starts

to get completely fuzzy. "God's nature" appears to be defined as "the things that God is capable of

doing." In this case, the claim of omnipotence is nothing more than the tautological statement, "God

can do all things that God can do." Under this usage, people are also "omniscient."

The fundamental problem may be that the concept of being all-powerful is ill-defined and lends itself

to equivocation.

Standard of Morality

A third answer to the above: Because God is the defining standard of morality, anything that God

does is good, regardless of how horrendous the same action would be if it were conducted by a

human. This neatly resolves the omnibenevolence issue, but does not address omnipotence.

Omnipotence vs omniscience

An omnipotent god is further confused when it is also granted omniscience, that is knowledge of all

things past, present and future. If a god knows what is going to happen in the future, it is not able to

omnipotently change that future because it is limited to what it knows will happen. If a god can

omnipotently change that future then that god can not have known the future in the first place and is

therefore not omniscient.

For example, the omnipotent and omniscient God at Time X speculates that Scenario A will occur 10

minutes later. 5 minutes later, one then wonders whether this God can cause Scenario B, instead of

A, to occur after another 5 minutes. If he can, then he is no longer omniscient; if he cannot, then he is

no longer omnipotent.

One must note that omnipotence can easily lead to omniscience. An omnipotent god has the ability

to do anything with the unlimited power of his, that is, he can gain the knowledge of all things past,

present and future. As such, this may be considered as another form of the omnipotence paradox.

One can then ask the question, "Can an omnipotent God make himself omniscient?" If yes, then

there exists a contradiction, as mentioned above. If no, then there is something that God apparently

cannot do, which is to make himself omniscient, and he thus ceases to be omnipotent.

Swinburne's definition

Richard Swinburne invented the following definition of omnipotence in an attempt to define this

paradox out of existence:

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"A person P is omnipotent at a time t if and only if he is able to bring about any logically

contingent state of affairs x after t, the descriptions of which does not entail that P did not

bring x about at t. This is subject to the restriction that a person is no less omnipotent for

being unable to bring about a state of affairs if he believes that he has overriding reason not

to bring it about. So, God is omnipotent even if he is unable to do what he believes wrong.

The paradox of the stone has false premises."

Countering Swinburne

Swinburne's argument depends on linear time, or at least the ability to describe events in a

linear fashion. Furthermore, the concept of a "Logically contingent state of affairs" presumes

that person P is subject to the laws of logic - as the alleged creator of the universe that contains

these laws, one would presume that God also created these laws and retains the ability to alter

them.

The premise of the stone-paradox is not whether god chooses to do only what he considers

right. The paradox is arises when determining whether god is CAPABLE of performance.

Performance is inconsistent with the logic of this universe. God could not simultaneously

maintain the laws of this universe AND break the paradox.

Expanding this argument, we can further state that God cannot create even a single atomic

particle without violating the logic of this universe, and thus demonstrating a flaw in his alleged

omnipotence.

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