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   Addarizzi de Ragazzo o  I do have an approach too that Jesus might have been a psychonaut.

 A person sensitive to his emotional and cognitive inner workings, like us, who, apart from other awesome discoveries, "sensed" the being,

that we two call God (cause we're already culturaly biased), who we both had experience with.

That would make him an important figure, familiar to fellow psychonauts, but still not non-magickal in an atheistic understanding cause we

do - as you too confirmed - find very questionable events on our lifespan surface.

 Yet looking at him from such a paradigm angle the whole mind-taste of him drastically differs from the dogmatic approach that I feel is

forced down my throat - that demands unquestioning acceptance of the conclusions that someone else has come up with and decided I

should adapt.

 24 minutes ago

 Addarizzi de Ragazzo 

o  Other paradigm that I have that has the god concept mentioned and redefined in it, was the one that came up to me from the mix of that

"The Extended Mind" lecture I was wholeheartedly recommending you, the quantum physics finding (double slits experiment the most, for

proving that the whole act of observing changes the world on quantum level) and my concept of the universe as a fractal *infinity*, both

3d as zoom-in/zoom-out.

 12 minutes ago

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o   You'll zoom out and zoom out from the place you're standing in, you'll fly out the planet, then the solar system, then the milky way, then

the whole 'visible universe', then you'll keep zooming out and see that faaar away there are similiar 'visible universe'balls like that...

[remembering how matter is made 99.99% out of empty space and that distances from electrons in an atom are such as of single grains

of rice travelling at different orbits around the whole area of a stadium - and the next 'atom' being where the next stadium is]

... you'll realize they too look just like atoms, then you'll keep zooming out and out, till you finally fly out of an item (or a being) that the

atom composes.

So we arrived into the 'macro' world, one level above, to which we are a quantum level world.

Now, knowing the actual discoveries made that prove the whole act of observation changes quantum level worlds, we have our 'god'

there. Probably unaware one. Even of his god-dom as well as of our existence.

 And seeing how the minuter the bodies are the quicker their processes seem to develop, our 'millenia' might be just a fraction of a fraction

of a second to him. He probably wouldn't notice our existence anyway.

 about a minute ago

 Addarizzi de Ragazzo 

o  But, that's the catch here, when it comes to 'eternal' life promised by the religion.

If the "External mind" lecture shows us our mind (being a cloud of electric discharges to picture it ) can literally leave our cranium, it gets

you thinking.

How the ancient, primitive nations would describe a 'zoom-out' direction? It's even hard to do in our times.

Would that be surprising if they tried to, pointing upwards? As to show where 'the God' resides at?

If us, being in him - his macro "HIM", whether just by living in a particle inside his body, or just on a object inside his 'cloud of electricity'...

our mind being the same stuff - tiny discharges of electricity, compared to his BIG ones,

religious people could aspire to join in HIS cloud, and become a particle of it. a part of it.

To become part of his 'charge" of his 'cloud'. Therefore, probably, adapting his timeframe, or granting your mind the same lifespan.

 You just have to become a part of a tiny charge inside the mind of the 'god' - the mind in the macro world, one, two, three (or ad

infinitum) level higher.

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