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I remember a commercial years ago that fea-
tured two guys driving along a roadway; win-
dows down, arms resting on the doors enjoy-
ing the fresh country air and sunshine. The
commercial indicated that they were driving for
several hours before they pulled into a service
station. When they got out the car and met at the
back you saw that the driver was sunburned on
the left side of his face and left arm while the
passenger was sunburned on his right side. After
staring at each others strange tan lines, they
swapped seats and drove off.
As a teen, I often sported what was referred to in
the Midwest as a “farmer’s tan”. Perhaps you
were somewhat more sophisticated than I in
which case you may have called it a “golfer’s tan”
or ’tennis tan”. No matter, the look is all the
same; a tan line that ends where the sleeves and
collar of the shirt end.
I guess I could just go shirtless while washing the
car to even out the tan and ensure that it goes all
round but there are two reasons that won’t work.
First is that a car should never
ever be washed in direct sun-
light. And second is that no one
should be subjected to seeing
me wash a car without a shirt
on!
Owners of convertible Thunder-
bird don’t have to worry about
this. If they want to, they could
tan all over without difficulty.
No, this burden falls squarely
on us hardtop and landau own-
ers. It is just something we will
have to live with.
That, and having to have some-
one drive our cars at times, so,
you know, we can ride as a pas-
senger and get some sun light
on our right side.
Enjoy the rest of your summer!
Tom
Driver’s Tan
News from the Northwest Vintage Thunderbird Club
September 2019
Volume 36, Issue 9
Thunderbird Flyer
The Myth of “Numbers Match-
ing”
2
Why Are Japanese Renting Cars
But Not Driving Them
3
Oil Pressure Gauges
and how they work
4
NWVTC Summer Picnic
was a great success
6
Courtesy of Ananth Hirsh and Yuko Ota via johnnywander.com
During the winter months we will be holding clas-ses for members to obtain a judging certificate from VTCI.
This is a great way to get to know your Thunder-bird better or to find out more information on other model years.
Watch for dates and times in future newsletters.
Photos courtesy of VTCI
A : Ralph, thanks much for your very interesting letter. First and foremost, I was totally unaware of the issue you have brought forward con-cerning “numbers matching” Fords. So first
and foremost, thank you for your letter informing my readers of this and also for the link to the Vintage Thun-derbird Club that goes even deeper into the issue.
Although I certainly feel your pain, everything I’ve dug up since your letter pretty much comes down to the truthfulness of the owner. Now with this said, many collector car owners don’t know about this Ford reality either, as there is a segment of the hobby where so called “enthusiasts” buy and sell for profit more so than for the love of owning a classic or muscle car. I’ll admit most are true-blue car lovers, but I hear you loud and clear as to overuse of the words “numbers matching,” etc. when it comes to Ford vehicles, the televised auc-tions and car collector magazines. I thank you very much for your impressive input on this situation in our hobby.
I dug up some information from Barrett-Jackson TV, and have found that as you mention in your letter, they in-deed do employ certain classic car professionals to make sure the cars they put into their auctions are in-deed authentic as to what the owner says the car is. These “verification pros” personally inspect each car to make sure that the seller does not make exaggerated claims. To get further input, I contacted Mike Joy, he the lead race announcer for FOX TV’s NASCAR television coverage and also a highly respected host and lead analyst of the Barrett-Jackson televised auctions. Joy was quick to admit your letter raises several interesting points and he told me that Barrett-Jackson indeed em-ploys certain individuals who inspect Fords, Pontiacs, MOPARS, Corvettes, Camaros, and so on for authentic-ity. Additionally, both Barrett-Jackson and Mecum al-ways go with the information supplied on the owner-card and only make a change if one of the professional verifi-ers finds a conflict between what they find on the car and what the owner supplied on the information card. I then asked Joy what “numbers matching” means to him:
“To me, ‘numbers-matching’ is shorthand for ‘this car still has its original engine.’ The best way to prove such a claim is with factory or dealer paperwork tying this engine to this car or chassis. There are alternate ways, such as a verifiable unbroken chain of ownership, with statements from each owner that the engine was never replaced. A similar problem exists with claims of ‘actual miles.’ Here again, paperwork is the key to establishing provenance,” Joy explained.
In ending, thanks Ralph Mahtar and Mike Joy for your expert enlightenment on what is a very interesting sub-ject.
-- Greg Zyla writes weekly for More Content Now and other Gatehouse Media publications.
To read the unedited article, click on this link.
The Myth of “Numbers Matching”
Q : Hello Greg and I just read your column on clones, replicas, recreations, tributes, and fakes. I don’t disa-gree with any of your points regarding what consti-tutes a fake car.
I’d like to add something, however, as in my opinion there is a much larger and more hobby damaging issue regarding the use of phrases like “numbers matching,” “factory installed,” “born with,” or “original” when describing Fords. The truth is that, ex-cept for the Mustang Boss 302′s, there is no such thing as a matching numbers Ford.
To explain, Ford did not stamp a number on any part that re-lates to the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) of the car. They only had a date code cast into the part. So, the only thing that can be determined as true is if the engine has a casting date that is after the build date of the car, then for certain the engine could not be original to the car. If the date code is before the build date of the car, then it MIGHT be original.
But since there is no Ford documentation that exists to prove an engine, transmission, etc. is original to the car, any such claim is a false, misleading and fraudulent claim made by unscrupulous sellers to inflate the perceived value of the car they are trying to sell.
From repeated years of TV programs, both auction and restora-tion type shows, magazine articles, private listings on many websites like eBay, Hemmings and so forth, car folks have tak-en this myth as fact. I think that’s the definition of propaganda -- a statement that is repeated so often that it is accepted as fact without benefit of proof. See this link from the Vintage Thunder-bird Club of America for more on the Ford numbers matching issue.
This “matching numbers” dilemma damages the hobby because a beginning collector who has heard the hype for years on TV auction and collector car broadcasts as well as in print will be-lieve these falsehoods because of the assumption of the credi-bility of the source.
I am a seasoned collector, but my pursuits have been Chevro-lets. I bought a 1965 Thunderbird convertible at the Mecum auction in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, in 2015. The car was not listed as a numbers matching car so I didn’t do any research on the subject before the purchase. It wasn’t until I got the car home and tried to find a number on the engine to see if the car I bought was numbers matching or not. When I could find no number I did the research only to discover there is no such thing as a matching numbers Ford. I, too, had believed the repeated reference to number status that I had heard and read so many times. A car can be advertised as “date code correct” or “period correct,” but not “numbers matching” or any of the other phrases conveying the same message. While I don’t dispute the idea that a car with its original drivetrain is probably worth more to a collector than a car with replacement parts, the idea that the various auction companies continue to accept consignments with these questionable quotes and possible lies (from the own-er of the cars) is disturbing.
Have a great day and thanks for helping get the word out about these matching numbers untruths.
-- Ralph Mahtar, Richmond, Virginia
“...I hear you
loud and clear as
to overuse of the
words “numbers
matching,” etc.
when it comes to
Ford
vehicles…”
Page 2 Thunderbird Flyer
This article was edited from an automotive Q/A column from 2018. It discusses a problem that I have heard repeated many
times concerning the phrase “numbers matching”. There are also references a VTCI article on the same subject. Editor
N ew directives from
the White House
order that 25% tar-
iffs already being
imposed on $250 billion worth
of Chinese goods be increased
to 30% on October 1. The sub-
ject goods have been divided
into three separate groups. The
so-called “List 1” and “List
2” goods are valued at $50
billion and include some miscel-
laneous metal and rubber parts
for auto equipment, machinery,
tools and measurement devic-
es. “List 3” imports cover about
$200 billion worth of goods
including most auto parts, from
engines and metal fasteners to
tires and brake pads.
List 4 imports are scheduled to
go into effect on September 1
and December 15 on an esti-
mated $112 billion and $160
billion worth of Chinese goods,
respectively. Originally targeted
as 10% tariffs, they will now be
15% tariffs when imposed. The
List 4 products cover a wide
range of finished consumer
products such as cell phones,
laptops, computer monitors,
video game consoles, and cer-
tain toys, footwear and cloth-
ing.
All the tariffs are being imposed
as an incentive for U.S. and
Chinese officials to negotiate
six separate trade documents
covering agriculture, services,
non-tariff barriers, currency,
intellectual property rights and
forced technology transfers and
cybersecurity. The most recent
trade talks have not yielded
significant results.
From the SEMA website
Not long after, other car-sharing
operators confirmed that the
same thing was happening with
its own services, prompting one
company, Times24 Co., to con-
duct a survey to find out how
people used its vehicles.
The results showed that, indeed,
some people were using the cars
for a whole range of purposes.
All without putting any miles on
the clock.
One respondent said they rented
a car “to eat a boxed meal that I
bought at a convenience store
because I couldn’t find anywhere
else to have lunch,” while anoth-
er said: “Usually the only place I
C ar-sharing services
are becoming increas-
ingly popular in Japan,
but it has emerged
that some people who rent the
vehicles don’t actually drive
them anywhere.
So what’s going on?
It turns out that for some folks,
the cars, which can be found
around cities and rented by the
minute via a smartphone app,
provide an ideal private space
for napping, working, charging
tech devices, listening to music,
watching movies, storing bags,
and chatting with friends,
among other activities.
The unexpected behavior was
first spotted last year by car-
sharing operator Orix Auto Corp.
After examining its rental data,
it noticed that some of its
230,000 registered users were
paying for the cars but not go-
ing anywhere.
can take a nap while visiting
my clients is a cyber cafe in
front of the station, but renting
a car to sleep in is just a few
hundred yen [several dollars],
almost the same as staying in
the cyber cafe.”
NTT Docomo, which in addition
to its telecoms business also
finds time for a car-sharing
service, said that some people
use its vehicles “to watch TV in,
get dressed up for Halloween,
practice singing, rapping and
English conversation, and even
do facial stretches said to re-
duce the size of their face.”
That last one comes as some-
thing of a surprise, but presum-
ably the vehicle’s rear view
mirror comes in handy for such
endeavors.
In Japan, car-sharing services
similar
to Car2go and Maven cost
around $3.60 for 30 minutes.
Further Tariff Increases Coming For Auto Parts
Why Are Japanese Renting Cars But Not Driving Them
Page 3 Volume 36, Issue 9
With most city folks taking the
train or bike to downtown areas,
escaping to your own car simply
isn’t an option. Therefore, if
you’re suddenly overcome with
the need for a nap, or want to
eat your lunch in your own pri-
vate space — or even stretch
your face for half an hour — then
a comfy seat courtesy of a car-
sharing service seems like a
good idea.
Of course, the overwhelming
majority of people in Japan still
use such services for getting
from A to B … instead of just
napping in A. One operator said
around 15% of it members use
its car-sharing service for activi-
ties other than driving, with the
trend continuing to grow.
By Trevor Mogg via Digital
Trends website
L ooking at the array of instruments that Ford
placed on the Thunderbird, the oil pressure
gauge has to be the most important one. The
gauge provides an indicator of the engine's
health so you or your mechanic can look for problems
before a breakdown happens.
Although Thunderbirds throughout the years came with
a variety of engines, they share an electrically powered
oil pressure gauge. This gauge indicates the oil pres-
sure in the engine.
A threaded hole is created in an oil passage which al-
lows a sensor to be screwed into it. The threaded end of
the sensor is hollow where oil under pressure can enter
the sensor. The oil pushes against a diaphragm which
slides an arm (or wiper) along a metal blade creating a
variable resistor. One end of the blade connects to a
pole on the outside of the sensor which is wired to the
gauge on the in-
strument panel.
With the sensor
and gauge con-
nect to the cars
ground, electricity
flows through this
loop and the vari-
able resistance
inside the sensor
affects the read-
ing on the oil
pressure gauge.
More oil pressure
decreases the
resistance in the
sensor causing
the oil pressure
gauge to read
higher; decreas-
ing oil pressure
produces higher
resistance and
lower indications
on the gauge.
The current pass-
es through a wire-wound coil mounted around the
needle's pivot and produces a magnetic field that moves
the needle across the calibrated scale of the gauge.
How far across the scale the needle goes - what reading
it gives - depends on how much current flows through
the gauge.
Sometimes, a modified Thunderbird will have an oil
pressure gauge mounted directly on the engine where
the sensor just described would be. These are
mechanical gauges which operate differently. Oil
under pressure still flows into the gauge but ra-
ther than pushing on a diaphragm, it goes into a
small, curved metal tube. The tube is mechanical-
ly attached to the needle showing on the face of
the gauge. As oil pressure increases, the tube
tries to straighten and moves the needle to high-
er pressure indications. When oil pressure de-
creases, the tube returns to its preformed curve,
moving the needle to a lower reading.
A common problem that occurs with an electric
oil indicating system is sensor failure. Since the
internal workings of the sensor are mechanical, it
can wear out over time. Another problem is that
the electrical contact pole at the top of the sensor
may become contaminated with engine fluids or
the wiring may just become brittle and crack with
age causing
intermittent
electrical prob-
lems. Cleaning
the contact or
replacing wiring
should solve
these prob-
lems.
If you have a
gauge that is
not indicating
at all, it may be
gauge itself.
The indicator
needle is
moved by a very
delicate coil
and contami-
nants entering
the gauge may
affect operation
over time. In
any case, it is
important to
take care of oil
pressure indicating problems sooner rather than
later. Oil is the lifeblood of your Thunderbirds
engine. Without a way to know if you have it, you
are taking a big chance of harming the engine.
Words by Tom Przedwojewski Graphic courtesy of How A Car
Works website.
Oil Pressure Gauges
How far across
the scale the
needle goes - what
reading it gives -
depends on how
much current
flows through the
gauge.
Page 4 Thunderbird Flyer
The variable resistor inside the sensor is moved as oil pressure varies
in the engine. Inset photo is sensor for 1964-1966 Thunderbirds.
178 lighting modules each
house 36 LEDs. Lighting chang-
es are affected by the
Willamette River’s speed,
depth and temperature.
The base color is deter-
mined by the water's
temperature. The tim-
ing and intensity of the
base color's changes,
moving the light across
the bridge, are deter-
mined by the river's
speed. A secondary
color pattern is deter-
mined by the river's depth,
that changes on the two tow-
ers and the suspension ca-
bles.
Old Portland Tilikum Bridge
T his installment of Old
Portland continues
with Portland bridg-
es. The Tilikum
Bridge, albeit one of Port-
land’s bridges, is a unique
bridge for this series.
First unique item is that the
bridge is only four years old.
Opened in 2015, it doesn’t
really fit the model of “old” for
Portland.
The second unique item is
how the bridge is lit at night.
Page 5 Volume 36, Issue 9
T-Bird Talk
Meeting Minutes and
Club Information
Lastly, the bridge was de-
signed for an extension of
MAX’s Orange Line. Portland
Trolley, busses and emergency
vehicles as well as pedestrians
and bikes use the bridge.
What about driving your Thun-
derbird over it you ask? Not
possible, Tilikum Bridge is not
open to private vehicles!
So, keeping with Portland’s
inclusive spirit, Tilikum Bridge
lands a spot in our Old
Portland series!
Attendance: Tom, Diane and Danielle Przedwojewski, Eric Johansson, Vicky, Steve and Anna Wimsatt, Mark and Debbie Ha-
worth, Matt and Tammy Truax, Griff and Karen Truax, Bob and Fran Peters, Mike and Nancy Hinsch, Bruce and Terri Barton,
Blake and Stephanie Boyles, Dave and Barbara Coles, Carol Garnett, Dennis Tokstad, Kim Thanh, Joe and Pauline Engert,
John and Judy Calkin, Mike and Yan Connor, Ron and Julie Escano, Lindy Anderson and Wayne, Joe Tanous, John and Noel
Ingram, Al and Esther Menashe.
A meeting was conducted during the Summer Picnic that occurred September 1st, 2019. New club member Joe Tanous was
able to drop by for a little while but had to leave early. Lindy Anderson and her friend Wayne were also present to check out
the club and the members.
Old Business: Tom recapped the completion of another successful Sizzlin’ Summer Car Show. A contribution to Make-A-Wish
Oregon was also made which put the club in the category of Wish Grantor. The club will be recognized with a
plaque.
Club members enjoyed the Spring Cruise and are anticipating the Fall Cruise. Look for details in group emails
and/or the newsletter.
New Business: The VTCI 2020 International planning committee has finalized the schedule of events for the event that will
happen from August 11-16, 2020. Club members will be asked to assist in the day to day activities as we get
closer to the event.
Vicky reported the finances for the club. Several deposits were made to secure dates and venues for the upcoming 2020 In-
ternational. Be aware that the club’s balance will be dropping quite a bit in the upcoming months as further
deposits are made for the various events and functions for the International.
Next meeting is Thursday September 19th, 2019 at Bird Nest.
T he club’s Summer Picnic was hosted at Matt
and Tammy Truax’s house on September 1st,
2019. This is the third time they have enter-
tained the club and I don’t think that anyone
was disappointed.
Twenty families responded to the invitation for the pic-
nic. While the club provided the BBQ, everyone brought
items to pass and, as usual, there was plenty to go
around. Some-
day I will try to
get a picture of
the spread laid
out for the
group rather
than filling my
plate! If you
haven’t been
able to attend
one of these
picnics in the
past, you must
try to make it
next time!
Members
brought out
fifteen of their
Thunderbirds
and, even
though I have
seen them
before, I am
always im-
pressed when
we can group
them together
like this. I am
grateful to be a
part of NWVTC
and that the
members enjoy
the opportuni-
ties that the
club makes to get these wonderful automobiles
out into the public.
An abbreviated meeting was held and the short
comments from that meeting can be found under
T-Bird Talk on page 5.
Joining us were long time members Dennis and
Kim that most of us haven’t seen for awhile were
there as well as new (and potentially new) mem-
bers
Joe,
Lindy
and
Wayne.
Hopeful-
ly we
will see
them
and all
the
other
mem-
bers
that
could not
attend at
other
club
events in
the fu-
ture.
Words by
Tom Przed-
wojewski
Photos by
Ron
Escano
NWVTC Summer Picnic
Page 6 Thunderbird Flyer
Thunderbird Trivia answer on back page
The Thunderbird and Corvette started out as competing models in the 1950’s.
Comparisons between the two soon disappeared as the models aged but
Thunderbirds surpassed the Corvette in this specific comparison from 1981
to 2011. What was the area that Thunderbird’s exceeded Corvettes?
Top: The Truax Homestead
Bottom: NWVTC cars staged at the pic-
nic
Top: 15 Thunderbirds and one lone
Galaxy viewed from the deck
Bottom: NWVTC members having fun!
Page 7 Volume 36, Issue 9
Taking Wing
Things to do and places
to go with your T-bird
Club Activities September 1st (Sun) Summer Picnic and Regular Club meeting, Truax Residence 12p-3p
September 19th (Thu) Regular Club meeting, Bird Nest, 1091 Willamette Falls Dr. West Linn, OR
October 17th (Thu) Regular Club Meeting, Bird Nest, 1091 Willamette Falls Dr, West Linn, OR
VTCI Regionals and International
May 2020 South Central Regional, New Orleans, LA
August 12th-17th, 2020 VTCI International, Portland, OR
Further information at www.vintagethunderbirdclub.net
Local Activities
September 6th (Fri) Silverton Flywheels First Friday Crusie-In, Silverton, OR
Further information at (503) 302-3471
September 14th (Sat) Columbia City Celebration 7th Annual Show & Shine, Columbia City, OR
Further information at (503) 396-5658
September 20th-21st (Fri-Sat) Harvest Swap Meet, Chehalis, WA
Further information at ccvac.com
September 29th (Sun) October Canby Swap Meet, Canby, OR
Further information at fords50s.com
The ideal length for an automotive radio antenna is a related to a proportion (1/4)
of the length of the frequency of the signal that the antenna is trying to receive.
Automotive antennas are a compromise to work for both AM and FM reception.
Let's say you are trying to tune in a station transmitting on 680 kHz on the AM
band. This means that the frequency is 680,000 hertz or cycles per second. Trav-
elling at a speed of 186,000 miles per second the math (below) works out to an
antenna length of just over 361 feet! That just won’t work for a car so manufac-
turers put the longest antenna they could on the cars to receive AM stations. Or
just relied on the local station to have a strong enough signal to receive.
The ad for the COILTENNA (right) attempts to give an antenna the ability to act
as a much longer antenna, allowing you the chance to tune in stations that were
farther away.
Here is the math if you are interested: 1/680,000 cycles per second = 0.00000147
seconds. One quarter of that is 0.0000003675 seconds. Radio waves travel at
186,000 miles per second so 186,000 x .0000003675 seconds = .0684 miles or
about 361 feet.
Email: [email protected]
Find us on the web at
www.nwtbirds.org
The announcement for the 2020 International will be appear-
ing in the VTCI SCOOP in the Sept/Oct edition and con-
tinue till the event date in August. Registration forms are
available there and will be on the club website soon.
A form letter introducing the event and how to become involved
with it is finished. All club members can be involved in finding
interested people, businesses and organizations that would con-
sider joining us during the International. Email Tom or Bob
([email protected]) for the letter.
Northwest Vintage
Thunderbird Club
Officers
Passing Lane Fun stuff from along the
road
Tom Przedwojewski 360-513-6923 cl
President [email protected]
Eric Johansson [email protected]
Vice President
Mark Haworth [email protected]
Secretary
Vicky Wimsatt [email protected]
Treasurer
Club Gear
We have contracted with Stitch ’n Embroi-
dery in Oregon City for
club members to have
most anything they
could use to have the
club logo embroidered
on it; shirts, sweats,
hoodies and jackets or backpacks. Check
out their site and then call to see if it can
be produced!
It was the amount of vehicles stolen! According to the National Insur-
ance Crime Bureau, during the 30-year period from 1981-2011, a total
of 179,625 Ford Thunderbirds were reported stolen in the U.S. and
Puerto Rico compared to 90,427 Corvettes. The model year Thunderbird
most often stolen: 1978.
Thunderbird Trivia Answer