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MOTAUNG Peter. Toronto. PA MP AL LI S John. L o n d o n .
MOTSEPE Jackie. Lusaka. P A M P AL LI S Karin. L o n d o n .
MOTSUMI. Maz i mbu. PASE Zandisile. Maz i mbu.
MNTAMBO M a - M s r c y . Maz i mbu. PATEL* Ra^hi d. L o n d o n .
MPEHLE Fezile. Mazimbu. PAUL Simon. Amsterdam.
MQOTSI Livingstone. L o n d o n . PAULSEN. See Cas.
MSIMANG Mendi. L o n d o n . PAYNTER Leiih y . Toronto.
MSOMI* Welcome. Berli n . PHAHLE Rose Innes. L o n d o n .
MTEMEIJ J c f x . B e r l i n . . PHILLIPS M a u d . L o n d o n .
MVUSI* Linda. H a r a r e . PILLAY* Vella. L o n d o n .
NAICKER George. Lusaka. RABALAO Li v y . Ottawa.
NAICKER* Prenaven. Harare. RADISI P e t e r . Stockholm.
NAICKER Saru. London RAHDA*. Harare.
NATDOO Indres. Berli n . RAMAPHOSA* Freddy. Maz i mbu.
NAIDOO* Phyllis. Lusaka. RAMSAMY* Sam. L o n d o n .
NAIDOO* Shantio. L o n d o n . R AN DEREE* Claire. Berlin.
NCHABELENG* Johnny. Amsterdam. RANKOE T h a n d i . Osl o.
NEAME Sylvia. Berli n . REDDY* Freddi e. Oxford.
NGCOBO* Lauretta. L o n d o n . REVOW Mi ke. Toronto.
NGELEZA* Tembeka. L o n d o n . ROSEN Mi c k y . Toronto.
NGOZI* Mike. Stockholm.
NHl ABATHI Buras. Maz i mbu. SACHS* A1 bi e. Lui loan ■
NJOBE Makhunga W. Dakawa. SACHS * Mi c h a e l . Maz i mbu.
NKABINDE Fanny. T or or. t c . SASOV Dunya. New York.
NKADIMENG* Gloria. Maz i mbu. SANJAY Bobby. Amsterdam.
NKADIMENG Mo. Mazi mbu. SAUL Mongezi. Berlin.
NKADIMENG Solly. Mazimbu. SC HL AP OB ER SK Y * John .L o n d o n .
NKOBI* Thomas T. Lusaka. SCHOON* Mari us. L o n d o n .
NKONDO Zinjiva. 1 u s s k a . SCHUBERT Michelle. Copenhagen
NODUMEHLEZI* MaAfri. Amsterdam. SEDIBE Aubr y . Berlin.
NTULI* Pitika. L o n d o n . SEGAL* Ronald. London.
NTULI Sifisc. Toronto. SELBY A r n o l d . Berlin.
NXUMALO Doctor E. Maz i mbu. SEL.EBI Tshepo. Maz i mbu.
NZO Regina. Mazimbu. SELLO* Gwendolin. M*z i mbu.
SEPTE MB ER * Denn i s . Maz i mbu.
OSMERS John. L o n d o n . SERAJE B e r t . B e r 1 i n .
SFROTE* P e a r l . Maz i mbu.
P a g e 6
SEROTE* Wally. l.rndon.
SET' 0G0 Evalina. Lusaka.
SEXWALE* Bunie. The Hague.
SEXWALE* Matsobane. The Hague.
SHABANGU Moses. Mazi mbu.
SHANGE* Sixhulu. New York.
SHEARING* Clifford. Toronto.
SHER* Anthony. L o n d o n .
SHIKISA The troupe L o n d o n .
SHORE Larry. New York.
SILAYELO Gifford. Lusaka.
SILWANA Zoni. Mazifr.tu.
SIMONS* Ray. Lusaka.
SINGH Eric. B e r l i n .
SIPHIWE. Amsterdam,
SLOVO* Gillian. L o n d o n .
SLOVO* R o b y n „ L o n d o n .
SLOVO* Shawn. L o n d o n .
SMITH Earl. L o n d o ,
STEVENSON* Peggy. L o n d o n .
STOFILE* Joyce. Harare.
STOFILE* Mongezi. H a r a r e .
STRACHAN* Bridget. Harare.
STRACHAN* Garth. Harare.
STRAUSS* A m o r . Amsterdam,
SU9AYEK0 Clifford. Lusaka.
TABELA Adelaide. Lusaka.
TAMBO Adelaide. L o n d o n .
TAMBO* D a l i . L o n d o n .
TAMBO* Oliver R. L o n d o n .
TAMSEN Ernie. L o n d o n .
TAMSEN Liese. L o n d o n .
TEMPLE* Matthew. L o n d o n .
THEMBA Noma T. Toronto.
THORNE Steve. A m rtcrdam
V A LLY* Saeeda. Copenhagen.
VANIA* Zatocn. Toronto.
VAN R ENSBURG Patrick Mazimbu.
VIKALALA* Thabisile. Los Angeles.
VILEIKA* Nandi. Stockholm.
VUNDLA Mfundi. New York.
WEISS* Ruth.
WILLIAMS* Diana.
W ILLIAMS Shepherd,
WIL LI AM S Willie.
WINB UR G Terence.
WOLPE Anne Marie.
WOLPE Harold.
WOLPE* Nicholas.
WOLPE* Peta.
WOLPE* Tessa.
XULU*
YENGWA
ZUNGU
Z e b u l o n .
Edith.
Yelledth C.
Harare.
Lusaka.
tfa£ i nibu.
Maz i mbu.
Stockholm.
L o n d o n .
L o n d o n .
L o n d o n .
L o n d o n .
Londoi i
B e r 1 in.
L o n d o n .
New York.
P a g e 7
THE SOUTH AFRICAN "EXILES' C O L L E C T I O N”.
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1. The "Exiles Collection" c o nsists of a pproximately 725 verbatim
interviews with South Africans in exile, made between 1989 and 1991. An
unknown number of those interviewed have since returned, temporarily or
permanently, to South Af’-ica.
A list of naifPr. of those interviewed is attached - see Appendix h .
2. "Exiles" have been loosely defined for purposes of these interviews as:
people who left South Africa because of apartheid, with the intention of
returning as soon as conditions in the country made it possible for them to
do so. Some have since acquired citizenship in the co u ntries of their
ex i 1 c .
3. The interviews took place at vari ou s towns in the following countries:
Britain. Canada. Denmark. Germany (FRG and G D R ) . Holland. Mozanmbique.
Norway. Sweden. Tanzania. U.S.A. Zambia. Zimbabwe. The towns where the
interviews took place as listed in Appendix A are not n ec essarily where the
person interviewed was resident at the time.
4. Only approxi ma te ly half of fhp original a u di o-cassette recordings of the
interviews are now still extant. All the interviews, whether audio-cas-
^ettes are extant or not, have been transcribed v erbatim onto computer
discs. The collection co mp ri se s fourteen 3 inch diam. and fourteen.
5.25inch diam discs.
5. The tr an scriptions are unedited and uncorrected, and contain the
interventions and promp ti ng s of the interviewer as well as the responses.
The computer print-out of the entire collection runs to approxim a te ly 6,500
pages of typescript at an average of ap proximately 260 words per page.
6. In g e n e r a l , the following questions were asked of those interviewed,
more by way of prompting than interrogation:
What circumst an ce s led you to leave South Africa?
How did you leave, and when?
What has happened to you since then?
How do you feel about your experience of ev.il 3?
P a g e 1
A f t e r P r i m e M i n i s t e r D e Klerk's- s p e e c h of F e b r u a r y 2 n d , 1991 o p e n e d t h e
p r o s p e c t of -* ^ s f e r e t u r n f r o m e x i l e , a n o t h e r q u e s t i o n w a s a d d e d :
W h a t ? r r y o u r f e e l i n g s a b o u t g o i n g b a c k ?
7. A s m a l l n u m b e r of t h e i n t e r v i e w s h a v e b e e n s h o r t e n e d * t;Jited, a n d
a r r a n g e d f o r p u b l i c a t i o n in a b o o k n o w iri t h e c o u r s e of p r o d u c t i o n .
P u b l i c a t i o n is e x p e c t e d t o w a r d s t h e e n d of 1992, u n d e r t h e p r o v i s i o n a l
t i tle: " T h e Rif t . Thr? S o u t h A f r i c a n E x i l e E x p e r i e n c e " . P u b l i s h e r s :
J o h n a t h a n Cap e . T h e p e r s o n s w h o s e i n t e r v i e w s a r e c o n c e r n e d a r e i n d i c a t e d
w i t h an a s t e r i s k on A p p e n d i x A.
S. T h e e n t i r e c o l l e c t i o n of a u d i o - c a s s e t t e s a n d c o m p u t e r d i s c s is b e i n g
o f f e r e d t o p u b l i c b o d i e s a n d / o r i n s t i t u t i o n s f o r s a f e - k e e p i n g in s u i t a b l e
a r c h i v e s , w h e r e t h e m a t e r i a l will r e m a i n a v a i l a b l e f o r p e r u s a l or s t u d y by
b o n a - f i d e r e s e a r c h e r s , s t u d e n t s or i n t e r e s t e d m e m b e r s of t h e p u b l i c .
R i g h t s t o t h e r e p r o d u c t i o n or p u b l i c a t i o n of a n y or all of t h e m a t e r i a l in
t h e c o l l e c t i o n a r e s p e c i f i c a l l y e x c l u d e d f r o m t h i s o f f e r , a n d wi l l r e m a i n
s u b j e c t t o p r i o r a g r e e m e n t b e t w e e n t h e h o l d e r s of t h e a r c h i v e s a n d m y s e l f
or m y a g e n t s .
H i l d a B e r n s t e i n .
□ Id H o u s e F a r m ,
D o r s t o n e .
E n g l a n d . H R 3 6BL.
F e b r u a r y , 1992.
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6A.
THE SOUTH AFRICAN "E X ILE S ' COLLECTION". APPENDIX
B R U T U S May. L o n d o n .
Name: R e c o r d e d at: B R U U N - M E Y E R M a r g i e . T o r o n t o .
B U R R O U G H S * Ann. L o s An j: 1 :
A B E L S O H N Ala n . T o r o n t o .
A K E R M A N A n t h o n y , A m s t e r d a m . C A R I M « H a j o o . T o r o n t o .
A I N S L I E * Ros. L o n d o n . C A R I M * Mac. T o r o n t o
A S M A L * T o r o n t o . C A R L S O N * J o e l . N e w Y o r k .
C A S * Fr. C a s i m i r . H a r a r e .
B A R M A N I A * Z u b e i d a . T o r o n t o . C A W T H R A * G a v i n . L o n d o n .
B A S K I N D * John. N e w Y o r k . C E L E * G r a c e . O t t a w a .
B A T J I * S t o v e . M a s i mbu. C I L L I E R S * E v e r t . N e w York.
B E C K * D e r r i c k . A r h u s . C L O E T E G r a c e . O t t a w a .
B E C K * E l w y n . A r h u s C O E T Z E E * Djrl. E n g l a n d .
B E C K * R o l a n d . A r h u s C O L M A N N e v i l l e . N e w York.
B E C K * P a s c a l . A r h u s C O M N I N O S S t e l i os. Maz imbu.
B E C K * R o l a n d . A r h u s C O T T O N * Jot. Maz i m b u
B E L L * T e r r y . L o n d o n . C R I E L A r c h i e . T o r o n t o .
B H A Y A T * F a t i m a . T o r o n t o . C R O N I N G e m m a . H a r a r e .
B H A Y A T Ha m i d T o r o n t o . C R O N I N * J e r e m y . H a r a r e .
B H A Y A T N a e e m a . T o r o n t o .
B H A Y A T Zabi e. T o r o n t o . D A S I L V A R o s e m a r y . T o r o n t o .
B I S M I L L A H Joan. G u e l p h . D A V I S # Jenni-fer. N e w York.
B I S M I L L A H Dr. G u e l p h . D A W E T I * L u n g i . Maz i mbu.
P T Z 7 C > I J o h n . T o r o n t o . D E M B O J a n i c e . T u r o n t o .
B I Z Z E L L M a g g i e . T o r o n t o . D E N N I S * E m i l y . D a k a w a .
B O I P E L O K a g i s o . M a r i rrbu. D E N N I S * O s w a l d . D a k a w a .
B O N G A T h a m i . H ? r a r e . D I A R * P r a k a s h . O t t a w a .
B O N G A Vu y i si wa. L o n d o n . D I L I M E N I * Z o l e k a . Maz i mbu.
B R O D I E Ka m i . M a z i mbu. D I N A T H R a m n i t . L o n d o n .
B R O W N * A n g e l a. L u s a k a . D I P H A L E * J o y c e . O t t a w a .
B R U C E C h e r v l . A m s t e r d a m . D O S S A N T O S # P a m e l a . M a p u t o .
B R U C E I a n . A m s t e r d a m . D U L L A Y F r i t z . A m s t e r d a m
D U L L A Y M a la. A m s t e r d a m
D U M A Enoc. S a n Franc:
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D U M A K U D E * T r .a l iD U M A S I * Jane.
D U N C K L E Y * S i m o n .
D U P L E S S I S * Esau.
D U T O I T * B e t t y .
N e w Y o rk.
D a k a w a .
A m s t e r d a m .
L e y d e n .
L o n d o n .
I S R A E L S T A M
I S R A E L S T A M
G e r r y . T o r o n t o .
Sc.lly. T o r o n t o .
E G G E N H U I Z E N * T o i n e . L o ndon,
J O H N S T O N A n t o n . S t o c k h o l m .
J O N A T H A N S t a n l e y . T o r o n t o .
J U R G E N S C a t h e r i n e . A m s t e r d a m .
J U R G E N S R i c h a r d . A m s t e r d a m .
F AIRWE.'VHER Joan. O t t a w a .
F R E E M A N B a s i l H a r a r e .
F E I N B E R G B a r r y . L o n d o n .
G A B O O D o o g l e s G.
G A L E T A * H o t e p .
G C A B A S H E T a n d i .
G I L D E R * B a r r y .
G I N W A L A * F r e n i ,
G O L D B E R G D e n n i s .
L o n d o n .
N e w Yor k .
A t 1 anta.
H a r a r e .
L o n d o n .
L o n d o n .
G O L D B L A T T P h y l l i s . L o n d o n .
G C C M O v E n c c M.
G R A Y * M a d i .
N e w Yor k .
S t o c k h o l m .
G U M E D E * Joe, N e w York.
G W A N G W A * J o n a s . L o n d o n .
H A I N * P e t e r . L o n d o n .
H A N S E N * J o h n . C o p e n h a g e n
H A L L A n d r e w . L o n d o n .
H A L L * Eve. H a r a r e .
H A L L * Ton y . H a r a r e .
H A N E K O M D e r e k . H a r a r e .
H A N E K O M Tri s h . H a r a r e .
H A R T M A N * Da v i d . T o r o n t o .
H O D G S O N R i c a . L o n d o n .
H O D G S O M * Tani a. L o n d o n .
H O F F E N B E R G * R a y m o n d Ox -f or d .
H O L M A N J o n a t h a n . Maz i .T.bu
H U D D L E S T O N * T r e v o r . L o n d o n .
K A J E E K a j a n .
K A J E E K a m o o .
K A S R I L S A n d r e w .
K A S R I L S C h r i s t o p h e r
K A S R I L S * E l e a n o r .
K A S R I L S * R o n n i e .
K E A G I L E M p h o .
K E N T R I D G E E l a i n e .
K E R K H O F Ian.
K G G S A M A k g a u g e l o .
K H A N Y I L E E l e a n o r .
K H A Y A * T h a m i .
K H O T S O .
K I T S O N N o r m a .
K L E I N S C H M I D T * H o r s t .
K O C H G r a h a m .
K O T A N E Sam.
K O T A N E J. S e e C u t t o n
K O T Z E * H e l e n .
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KUMAL.O* D u m i s a n i .
K U N E N E * L a m a k h o s i .
K U N E N E * M a t h a b o .
K U N E N E * M z i s i .
L A G U M A B a r t o .
L A G U M A B l a n c h e .
L A G U M A E u g e n e .
L A N G H e a t h e r .
L A N G A * M a n d l a .
A m s t e r d a m .
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L o n d o n .
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Maz i mbu.
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L E V I N R A D N o r m a n . L o s A n g e l e s . M A T T H E W S G i 1b e r t . S t o c k h o l m .
L E V I T A N * E s t h e r . H e r e f o r d . M A T U T I * G e r t r u d e . S t o c k h o l hi.
L E W I N * H u g h . H a r a r e . M A Y S O N C e d r i c . L o n d o n .
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M B A T H A Da v i d . Mazi mbu.
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M A F A J E * T h o k o . T o r o n t o . M B I T Y A N A B l y t h . N e w York.
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M S O M I * W e l c o m e . B e r l i n . F H A H L E R o s e Innes.
M T E M B U Jeff. B e r l i n . . P H I L L I P S M a u d .
M V U S I * L i n d a . H a r a r e . P I L L A Y * V e l l a .
N A I C K E R G e o r g e . L u s a k a . R A B A L A O Li v y .
N A I C K E R * P r e n a v e n . H a r a r e . R A D I S I P e t e r .
N A I C K E R S a r u . L o n d o n . R A H D A * .
N A I D C C I n d r s s . B e r l i n . R A M A P H O S A * F r e d d y .
N A I D O O * P h y l l i s . L u s a k a . R A M S A M Y * Sam.
N A I D O O * S h a n t i e . L o n d o n . R A N D E R E E * C l a i r e .
N C H A B E L E N G * J o h n n y . A m s t e r d a m . R A N K C E T h a n d i .
N E A M E S y l v i a . B e r l i n R E D D Y * F r e d d i e.
M p o r m n * i a u r e t t a . L o n d o n . R E V O W Mi ke.
N G E L E Z A * T e m b e k a . L o n d o n . R O S E N M i c k y .
N G O Z I * M i ke. S t o c k h o l m .
N H L A B A T H I P u r " , Maz i mbu. S A C H S * A1 bi e.
N J O B E M a k h u n g a W. D a k a w a . S A C H S * Mi c h a e l .
N K A B I N D E F a n n y . T o r o n t o . S A G O V D u n y a .
N K A D I M E N G * G l o r i a . Maz i mbu. S A N J A Y B o b b y .
N K A D I M E N G Mo. M a z i m b u . S A U L M o n g e z i .
N K A D I M E N G S o l l y . Ma z i mbu. S C H L A P O B E R S K Y * J o h n
N K O B I * T h o m a s T. L u s a k a . n m innkivOUrf I'JUl'iTT M a r i u s .
N K O N D O Z i n j i v a . L u s a k a . S C H U B E R T M i c h e l l e .
N O D U M E H L E Z I * M a A f r i . A m s t e r d a m . S E D I B E A u b r e y .
N T U L I * P i t i k a . L o n d o n . S E G A L * R o n a l d .
N T U L I S i f i s o . T o r o n t o . S E L B Y A r n c l d .
N X U M A L O D o c t o r E. Maz i mbu. S E L E B I T s h e p o .
N Z O R e g i n a . M a z i m b u . S E L L O * G w e n d o l i n .
S E P T E M B E R * D e n n i s .
O S M F R S John. L o n d o n . S E R A J E UtSi L. mr r n n r r v• _> 1_1 \L-f i P e a r l .
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A m s t e r d a m .
T o r o n t o .
L o n d o n .
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L o n d o n .
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S t o c k h o l m .
H a r a r e .
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T o r o n t o .
T o r o n t o .
L o n d o n .
Maz i mbu.
N e w York.
A m s t e r d a m .
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. Lui id o n .
L o n d o n .
C o p e n h a g e n .
B e r l i n .
L o n d o n .
B e r l i n .
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M a z i m b u .
B e r 1 i n .
M a z i mba.
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S E X W A L E * Buni r>. T h e H a g u e . V A N R E N S B U R G P a t r i c k Maz i mbu.
S E X W A L E * M a t s o b a n e . T h e H a g u e . V I K A L A L A * T h a b i s i l e . L o s A n g e l <
S H A B A N G U M o s e s . M a z i m b u . V I L E I K A * N a n d i . S t o c k h o l m,
S H A N G E * S i x h u l u . N e w Y o r k . V U N D L A M f u n d i . N e w Yor k .
S H E A R I N G * C l i f f o r d . T o r o n t o .
''HER* A n t h o n y . L o n d o n . W E I S S * Rut-!.. H a r a r e .
S H I K I S A T h e t r o u p e L o n d o n . W I L L I A M S * D i a n a . L u s a k a .
S H O R E L a r r y . N e w Y o r k . W I L L I A M S S h e p h e r d . Maz i mbu.
S I L A Y E L O G i f f o r d . L u s a k a . W I L L I A M S W i l l i e . Maz i mbu.
S I L W A N A Z o n i . Maz i mbu. W I N B U R G T e r e n c e . S t o c k h o l m
S I M O N S * Ray. L u s a k a . W O L P E A n n e M a r i e . L o n d o n .
S I N G H Eri c . B e r l i n . W O L P E H a r o l d . L o n d o n .
S I P H I W E . • A m s t e r d a m . W O L P E * N i c h o l a s . Lui idui i.
S L O V O * Gi 11 i a n . L o n d o n . W O L P E s Pata. L o n d o n .
S L O V O * R o b y n . L o n d o n . W O L P E * T e s s a . L o n d o n
S L O V O * S h a w n . L o n d o n .
SM T 'rH Ear l . L o n d o , X U L U * Z e b u I o n . B e r l i n .
S T E V E N S O N * P e g g y . L o n d o n . Y E N G W A E d i t h . L o n d o n .
S T O F I L E * Joyce. H a r a r e . Z U N G U Y e l l e d t h C. N e w York.
S T O F I L E * M o n g e z i . H a r a r e .
S T R A C H A N * B r i d g e t . H a r a r e .
S T R A C H A N * G a r t h . H a r a r e .
S T R A U S S * A m o r . An^t-n-d^m.
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T A B E L A Adel mi dr L u s a k a .
T A M B P A d ^ 1 ? i d e . L o n d o n .
TAM^H-* Dali. L o n d o n .
T A M p n * O l i v e r R. L o n d o n .
T A M S E N E r n i e . L o n d o n .
T A M S E N L i e s e . L o n d o n .
T E M P L E * M a t t h e w . L o n d o n .
T H E M B A N o m a T. T o r o n t o .
T H O R N E S t e v e . A m s t e r d a m .
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1. T h e " E x i l e s C o l l e c t i o n " c o n s i s t s of a p p r o x i m a t e l y 3 2 5 .verbatim
i n t e r v i e w s w i t h S o u t h A f r i c a n s in e x i l e , m a d e b e t w e e n 1 9 8 ? and 1991. An
u n k n o w n n u m b e r o-f t h o s e i n t e r v i e w e d h a v e s i n c e ^ t u r n e d , t e m p o r a r i l y or
p e r m a n e n t l y , to S o u t h A f r i c a
A li s t o-f n a m e s o-f t h o r p i n t e r v i e w e d is a t t a c h e d - s e e A p p e n d i x A.
? "Eviler." h a v e b e e n l o o s e l y d e f i n e d for p u r p o s e s of t h e s e i n t e r v i e w s ass
w h o le f t S o u t h A f r i c a b e c a u s e of a p a r t h e i d , wilii Lite i n t e n t i o n of
r e t u r n i n g a s s o o n a s c o n d i t i o n s in t h e c o u n t r y m a d e it p o s s i b l e for t h e m to
do sc. S o m e h a v e s i n c e a c q u i r e d c i t i z e n s h i p in t h e c o u n t r i e s of t h e i r
ex i 1 e .
3. T h e i n t e r v i e w s t o o k p l a c e at v a r i o u s t o w n s in t h e f o l l o w i n g c o u n t r i e s :
B r i t a i n . C a n a d a . D e n m a r k . G e r m a n y (FRG a n d G D R ) . H o l l a n d . M o z a n m b i q u e .
N o r w a y . S w e d e n . T a n z a n i a . U . S . A . Z a m b i a . Z i m b a b w e . T h e t o w n s w h e r e t h e
i n t e r v i e w s t o o k p l a c e as l i s t e d in A p p e n d i x A a r e n o t n e c e s s a r i l y w h e r e the
p e r s o n i n t e r v i e w e d w a s r e s i d e n t at t h e tim e .
4. O n l y a p p r o x i m a t e l y h a l f of t h e o r i g i n a l a u d i o - c a s s ^ t t e -ecorriings of the
i n t e r v i e w s a r e n o w s t ill e x t a n t . All t h e i n t e r v i e w s , w h e t h e r a u d i o - c a s -
s e t t e s a r e e x t a n t nr n n t . h a v e b e e n t r a n s c r i b e d v e r b a t i m o n t o c o m p u t e r
discs. T h e c n l ’r r t i n n c o m p r i s e s f o u r t e e n 3 in c h dia m . a n d f o u r t e e n .
P "'flinch d i a m d i s c s .
P. T h e t r a n s c r i p t i o n s a r e u n e d i t e d a n d u n c o r r e c U d , o n d c o n t a i n t h e
i n t e r v e n t i o n s a n d p r o m p t i n g s of t h e inter v i ewe-' as well as t h e r e s p o n s e s .
T h e c o m p u t e r p r i n t - o u t of l! , ..tire c o l l e c t i o n r u n s t o a p p r o x i m a tel y 6 , 5 0 0
p a g e s o e t y p c s c r i p t at an a v e r a g e of a p p r o x i m a t e l y 2 6 0 w o r d s p e r page.
6. In g e n e r a l , t h e f o l l o w i n g q u e s t i o n s w e r e a s k e d of t h o s e i n t e r v i e w e d ,
m o r s b y w a y of p r o m p t i n g t h a n i n t e r r o g a t i o n ;
W h a t c i r c u m s t a n c e s l e d y o u t o l e a v e S o u t h A f r i c a ?
H o w d i d y o u l e a v e , a n d w h e n ? >
W h a t h a s h a p p e n e d t o y o u s i n c e t h e n ?
H o w d o y o u feel a b o u t y o u r e x p e r i e n c e of e x i l e ?
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p r o s p e c t o-f a s a f e r e t u r n -from e x i l e , a n o t h e r q u e s t i o n w a s a d d e d :
W h a t a r e y o u r fe e l i nor. -.hout g o i n g b a c k ?
7. A sma l l n u m b e r of t h e i n t e r v i e w s h a v e b e e n s h o r t e n e d , e d i t e d , and
a r r a n g e d -for p u b l i c a t i o n in a b o o k n o w in t h e c o u r s e of p r o d u c t i o n .
P u b l i c a t i o n is e x p e c t e d t o w a r d s t h e end of 1992, under t h e p r o v i s i o n a l
t i t l e : " T h e R i f t . T h e S o u t h A f r i c a n E,.ilt. E x p e r i e n c e " . P u b l i s h e r s :
J o h n a t h a n Cape. T h e per"-- ..l.uss i n t e r v i e w s a r e c o n c e r n e d a r e i n d i c a t e d
w i t h an a s t e r i s k ur, A p p e n d i x A.
S. T h e e n t i r e c o l l e c t i o n of a u d i o - c a s s e t t e s a n d c o m p u t e r d i s c s is b e i n g
o f f e r e d to p u b l i c b o d i e s a n d / o r i n s t i t u t i o n s for s a f e - k e e p i n g in s u i t a b l e
a r c h i v e s , w h e r e t h e m a t e r i a l wi l l r e m a i n a v a i l a b l e for p e r u s a l or s t u d y by
b o n a - f i d e r e s e a r c h e r s , s t u d e n t s or i n t e r e s t e d m e m b e r s of t h e p u b l i c .
R i g h t s t o t h e r e p r o d u c t i o n or p u b l i c a t i o n of a n y or a)i of Liie m a t e r i a l in
t h e c o l l e c t i o n a r e s p e c i f i c a l l y e x c l u d e d f r o m t h i s o f f e r , and will r e m a i n
s u b j e c t t o p r i o r a g r e e m e n t b e t w e e n t h e h o l d e r s of t h e a r c h i v e s a n d m y s e l f
or m y a g e n t s .
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D o r s t o n e .
E n g l a n d . H R 3 oBL.
Februat /, 1992.
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6A.
THE SOUTH AFRICAN "EX IL :OLLECTION". AFF’END IX
Name: R e c o r d e d at:
A B E L S O H N A l a n . T o r o n t o .
A K E R M A N A n t h o n y , A m s t e r d a m .
A I N S L I E * Ros. L o n d o n .
A S M A L * K a d e r . T o r o n t o .
B A R M A N I A * Z u b e i d a . . T o r o n t o .
B A S K I N D * J o hn. N e w Yor k .
B A T J I * S t e v e . Maz i mb' ■
PFri:'* D e r r i c k . A r h u s .
B E C K * E l w y n . A r h u s
B E C K * R o l a n d . A r h u s
B E C K * P a s c a l . A r h u s
B E C K * R o l a n d . A r h u s
B E L L * T e r r y . L o n d o n .
B H A Y A T * F a t i m a . T o r o n t o .
B H A Y A T ! mi d T o r o n t o .
B H A Y A T N a e e m a . T o r o n t o .
B H A Y A T Zabi e. T o r o n t o .
B I S M I L L A H Joan. G u e l p h .
B I S M I L L A H Dr. G u e l p h .
B I Z Z E L L John. T o r o n t o .
BT ZZELL M a g g i e. T o r o n t o .
B O I P E L O K a g i s o . M a z i m b u .
B O N G A T h a m i . Mr. r a r e .
B O N G A * V u y i s i w a . L o n d o n .
B R O D I E K a m i . M a z i mbu.
B R O W N * A n g e l a . L u s a k a .
B R U C E C h e r y l . A m s t e r d a m
B R U C E I a n . A m s t e r d a m
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B R U T U S May. L o n d o n .
B R U U N - M E Y E R M a r g i e . T o r o n t o .
B U R R O U G H S * Ann.
C A R I M * H a j o o .
CARIM!' Mac.
C A R L S O N * Jo e l .
C A S * F r . C a s i m i r .
C A W T H R A * G a v i n .
C C L E - G r a c e .
C I L L I E R S * E v e r t .
C L O E T E G r a c e .Q-otS '*'(=' (tusC O E T Z E E * Dirk.
C O L M A N Neville..
C O M N I N O S S t e l i o s .
C O T T O N * Joe.
C R I E L Ai i_ I i i e .
C R O N I N G e m m a .
C R O N I N * J e r e m y .
D A S I L V A R o s e m a r y .
D A V I S * Jenni-fer.
D A W E T I * L u n g i .
D E M B O J a n i c e .
D E N N I S * E m i l / .
D E N N I S * O s w a l d .
D I A R * P r a k a s h .
D I L I M E N I * Z o l e k a .
D I N A T H * R a m n i e .
D I P H A L E * J o y c e .
D O S S A N T O S * P a m e l a .
D U L L A Y F r i t z .
D U L L A Y Mala.
D U M A Eno c .
L o s A n g e l e s .
T o r o n t o .
T o r o n t o
N e w York.
H a r a r e .
Lui iuun.
O t t a w a .
N e w Y o rk.
O t t a w a .
E n g l a n d .
N e w York.
Maz i m b u .
Maz i m b u
T o r o n t o .
H a r a r e .
H a r a r e .
T o r o n t o .
N e w York.
Maz i mbu.
T o r o n t o .
D a k a w a .
D a k a w a .
Ot tawa.
Maz i mbu.
L o n d o n .
O t t a w a .
M a p u t o .
Aias»ter dam.
A m s t e r d a m .
S a n F r a n c i s c o .
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D U M A K U D E * T h u l i . N e w Ycri:. I S R A E L S T A M G e r r y . T o r o n t o .
D U M A S I * Jane. D a k a w a . I S R A E L S T A M S a l l y . T o r o n t o .
D U N C K L E Y * S i m o n . A m s t e r d a m .
DU P L E S S I S * Esau. L e y d e n . J O H N S T O N A n t o n . S t o c k h o l m .
D U T O I T * B e t t y . L o n d o n . J O N A T H A N S t a n l e y . Tor onto.
J U R G E N S C a t h e r i ne. A m s t e r d a m .
E G G E N H U I Z E N * T o i n e . L o n d o n . ji IRGENS Ri c h a r d . A m s t e r d a m .
F A I R W E A T H E R Joan. O t t a w a . K A J E E 1Kaja n . A m s t e r d a m .
F R E E M A N Basi 1 H a r a r e . K A J E E 1K a m o o . A m s t e r d a m .
F E I N B E R G B a r r y . L o n d o n . K A S R I L S A n d r e w . L o n d o n .
G A B O O D o c ^ l e s G.
K A S R I L S Chri s t o p h e r L o n d o n .
L o n d o n * K A S R I L S * E l e a n o r . L o n d o n .
G A L E T A * H o t e p . N e w Y o r k . K A S R I L S * R o n n i e . L u s a k a .
G C A B A S H E T a n d i . A t l a n t a . K E A G I L E Mph o . Maz i mbu.
G I L D E R * B a r r y . H a r a r e . K E N T R I D G E E l a i n e . T o r o n t o
G I N W A L A * F r e n i . L o n d o n . K E R K H O F Ian. A m s t e r d a m .
G O L D B E R G D e n n i s . L o n d o n . K G O S A N A * K g a u g e l u . L u - A n g e l e s .
G O L D B L A T T P h y l l i s . L o n d o n . K H A N Y I L E * E l e a n o r . L o n d o n .
G Q O M O * E n o c M. |Vjtaw Vovlr . K H A Y A * T h a m i . Maz i mbu.
G R A Y * Mad i . S t o c k h o l m . K H O T S O . Maz i mbu.
G U M E D E * Joe. N e w Y o r k . K I T S O N N o r m a . H a r a r e .
G W A N G W A * J o n a s . L o n d o n . K L E I N S C H M I D T * H o r s t . L o n d o n
K O C H Gir h ’m . L o n d o n .
H A I N * P e t e r . L o n d o n . K O T A N E Sam. T o r o n t o .
H A N S E N * John. C o p e n h a g e n . K O T A N E J . S e e C o t t o n •
H A L L A n d r e w . L o n d o n . K O T Z E * » I _ 1 ...nt;I s n . L e e d s .
H A L L * Eve. H a r a r e . K O T Z E * Theo. L e e d s .
H A L L * Tony, H a r a r e . K U M A L O * D u m i s a n i . N e w York.
H A N E K O M D e r e k . H a r a r e . K U N E N E * L a m a k h o s i . L o s A n g e l e s .
H A N E K O M T r i s h . H a r a r e . K U N E N E * M a t h a b o . L o s A n g l e e s .
H A R T M A N * D a v i d . T o r o n t o . K U N E N E * Mz i si . L o s A n g e l e s .
H O D G S O N Ric a . L o n d o n .
H O D G S O N * T a n i a . L o n d o n L A G U M A B a r t o . B e r 1 in.
H O F F E N B E R G * R a y m o n d O x f o r d . L A G U M A B l a n c h e . L o n d o n .
H O L M A N J o n a t h a n . M a z i m b u L A G U M A E u g e n e . L o n d o n .
H U D D L E S T O N * T r e v o r . L o n d o n . L A N G H e a t h e r . T o r o n t o .
L A N G A * M a n d l a . L o n d o n .
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L A P S L E Y * Mi c h a e l . H a r a r e . M A T S H I K I Z A * Esme. L o n d o n .
L E S H I K A S o n n y . Maz i mbu. M A T S H I K I Z A * John. L o n d o n .
L E V I N R A D N o r m a n . L o s A n g e l e s . M A T T H E W S G i l b e r t . S t o c k h o l m .
L E V I T A N * E s t h e r . H e r e f o r d . M A T U T I * G e r t r u d e . S t o c k h o l m .
L FWTNfc H u g h , H a r a r e . M A Y S O N C e d r i c . L o n d o n .
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ISMAEL BHANJEE - Head of Sports Admininstration. Very interesting.
ZK MATTHEWS - daughter & widow
STEVE DYER - Botswana/Zimbabwe
DR MOETI - golfer
MAYOR OF GABERONE - ex-SA. Ask re issue of being Mayor. Is he SAor Botswana?
MIKE DINGAKE
DAVE VESTMAN - non-political, musician.
FISH KEITSING
PETER & NTOMBI SETSHWAELO - Chairperson women,s organisation &younger sist er n
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WANK IE PEOPLE: Hani. Schoter (Aid to OR) Sebi Peter J* • Nap***
HENRY MOKGOTI. MAVIS NHLAPO . ft6-HE$ • H/S M • (^eeScha,rfa * , ^
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Texie Mabisela: 737.301.THOKOLIZE BOTHA: RESA Programme (Premi - ANC office)CAROL MARSHALL & MAYFORD RADEBE _ Paediatricians, Moz experience.
REBCCA & HUMPHREY LANGA - School principal & NS teacher.ZWELE MKISE - 285-46. Worked in Swaziland. Wife Pat, Doctors GERALDINE TWALA - 80,s Lutheran World Federatuin 796-556 GEORGE SEBOLAI - Health attendant. As re apparent increase in
impotency in exile. Also abortions.
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