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1 Module 4 Chat Box – School for Change Agents from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants: Hello from a sunny Orkney! from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants: yes - I'm early! from Emily Lau to All Participants: Yup! from Emma Hill to All Participants: yes from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants: not yet.....guessing that you are asking if we can hear something? from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants: is anyone speaking now? from Emily Lau to All Participants: No - just some background music from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants: aah! - music and Apollo 11! from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants: fantastic! from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants: :) from Helen Bevan to All Participants: Hi everyone. Great to see so many of you signed on nice and early. Who is joining us today and where are you? from Douglas Natusch to All Participants: Hi, my name is Douglas Natusch and I am joining you from South Devon from Emma Hill to All Participants:

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Module 4 Chat Box – School for Change Agents

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Hello from a sunny Orkney!

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

yes - I'm early!

from Emily Lau to All Participants:

Yup!

from Emma Hill to All Participants:

yes

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

not yet.....guessing that you are asking if we can hear something?

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

is anyone speaking now?

from Emily Lau to All Participants:

No - just some background music

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

aah! - music and Apollo 11!

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

fantastic!

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

:)

from Helen Bevan to All Participants:

Hi everyone. Great to see so many of you signed on nice and early. Who is joining us today and

where are you?

from Douglas Natusch to All Participants:

Hi, my name is Douglas Natusch and I am joining you from South Devon

from Emma Hill to All Participants:

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though these normally start at three? but funky apollo music stuff is fine.

from Oliver Benson to All Participants:

We start at 3pm but play some music while people join us.

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

what album is it from? Anyone know?

from Tom de Salis to All Participants:

I prefer this to last week's music, maybe I should come early every week!

from Oliver Benson to All Participants:

Track is Public Service Broadcasting - Go

from Tom de Salis to All Participants:

PSB!

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

great! got to get that

from Leigh Kendall to All Participants:

Quite apt really!

from Oliver Benson to All Participants:

it's because we are in mission control today

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Orkney - go!

from Tom de Salis to All Participants:

Birmingham - go!

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

old enough to remember this - wahted it on a COLOUR TV at junior school

from Kate Pound to All Participants:

Hi all great to see so many people today

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

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they had to rent it - too expensive to buy!

from Paul Woodley to All Participants:

Coventry - go!

from Paula Ward to All Participants:

Nottingham

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

hi Helen

from Emma Hill to All Participants:

Hi from sunny Bournemouth

from Douglas Natusch to All Participants:

Thunderbirds are go!

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

er - thanks My Tracey

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

*Mr

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

afternoon all, hope we're well

from Fiona Mac to All Participants:

Hello from the Wild Borders of Wales

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Can we have a playlist please? My kind of music!

from Kate Pound to All Participants:

I really liked to Apollo music

from Val Edwards to All Participants:

Hello all from a very sunny Salford, Manchester

from Kathryn Perera to All Participants:

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Hello everyone and welcome!

from Lucy Butler to All Participants:

Morning from Dunedin New Zealand

from Pip Hardy to All Participants:

Hello from sunny Cambridge!

from Kathryn Perera to All Participants:

Stunning weather in London, overlooking St James' Park today.

from Stacey Kavanagh to All Participants:

Hello, Stacey Kavanagh, from Advancing Quality Alliance in Manchester

from Heather Callum to All Participants:

Hello from Guelph, Ontario, Canada!

from Kirstie Lawrence to All Participants:

Hi all! Kirstie from Warwickshire here. Im a final year OT student.

from Jennie Huntley to All Participants:

Hello from sunny, springy Ashford in Kent - Jennie from Kent Community Health NHS Trust....yes

loved the Apollo song....please let us know whose tune that is

from Asha Gaines to All Participants:

Hey y'all! I'm from Atlanta, GA, USA Population Health Coordinator

from Sharon Brown to All Participants:

Hello from South Tees Hospitals in sunny, grass cut smelling Middlesbrough!

from Katy McNeil to All Participants:

Hi it's Katy from Scottish Government - sunny spring day in Edinburgh too

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

Hello my name is Tony, perched with my hand in there practicing one handed typing

from Sajjad Mushtaq to All Participants:

Hi from Birmingham, UK

from patricia wimmer to All Participants:

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Goos afternoon everybody, Patricia Wimmer from a sunny Tilburg, the Netherlands

from Georgina Ritchie to All Participants:

Hi Everyone, Im Georgina Ritchie District Nurse from University of Central Lancashire, not sure baout

the weather I havent seen daylight since early this morning

from Patricia Burns to All Participants:

Hi Patricia Burns from Edinburgh which is crisp and bright today!

from pramod kumar to All Participants:

Hi Dr Pramod Kumar from Wexham Park hospital , Slough

from Michele Young to All Participants:

Hi I'm in OUH anyone else attending?

from Malcolm Cooper to All Participants:

Hello to you all. Malcolm Cooper here enjoying a sunny day in South London.

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

Typing from Wolverhampton UK with glorious blue skies

from Yvonne Newbold to All Participants:

Hello all, I'm Yvonne Newbold, and I'm doing this from Wallington, which is both Surrey and London.

I'm at home and it must be a nice day because this is the first day in months that the central heating

hasn't had to be turned on!

from Brian Markey to All Participants:

Hi Everyone, I'm Brian Markey, Project Manager for the National ePrescribing Project in Ireland...

lovely day here too!

from Shelley Cornick to All Participants:

Hi from Shelley in Newfoundland Canada. We still have snow on the ground here and a heavy

snowfall forecast for the weekend.

from Lisa Sharrock to All Participants:

Hi everyone, Lisa Sharrock Team Manager RMN / CBT therapist North Staffs Combined Healthcare

Trust North Staffordshire enjoying the beautiful sunshine :)

from Wendy Johnson to All Participants:

Sunny, and blustery near Edinburgh

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from Rose McCaul to All Participants:

Spring has arrived in Dublin. My name is Rose Senior Environmental Health Manager Health &

Wellbeing Division HSE

from Rebecca Tringham to All Participants:

Here in Birmingham we have a beautiful blue sky :-)

from Rebecca Fyffe to All Participants:

Hi everyone, from Rebecca - NHS Fife, Scotland.

from Victoria Hill to All Participants:

Hi, Victoria, Pharmacist from Halifax, West Yorkshire - lovely blue sky here too!

from naomi ledwith to All Participants:

Hi naomi from manchester

from naomi ledwith to All Participants:

I am a pharmacist too

from Victoria Hill to All Participants:

Fab!

from Tom de Salis to All Participants:

I miss having my own window, everyone seems to have their blinds closed!

from James Rawson to All Participants:

Jim Rawson from Augsuta, GA USA joining the call.

from Karen Perkins to All Participants:

Sunny lunchtime run, feeling refreshed!

from Shelley Huffman to All Participants:

Good morning - signing on from Ontario Canada.

from Claire Maggs to All Participants:

Good afternoon, lovely sunshine here in Birmingham, UK

from julie smith to All Participants:

Afternoon

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from Chrysta Mayhew to All Participants:

Sunny day in Toronto, Canada! Hello everyone

from Andrew Blane to All Participants:

Hello everyone from sunny Leeds

from Helen Bevan to All Participants:

Great to see such an outstanding diversity of people on the webex. We will start in 2 minutes

from Ans Luyben to All Participants:

hello everyone from switzerland

from Christine Clarke to All Participants:

Hello from Sunny Worcestershire

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

Hello from sunny West Yorkshire. Leeds to be precise :)

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

too nice to be inside! ;-(

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

lol @tom

from Jonathan Williams to All Participants:

Hello from sunny Lancashire

from Paula Ward to All Participants:

Hi everyone from Nottingham

from Emma Kelly to All Participants:

Hi from sunny East Kent (Ashford - not quite the seaside but not far!)

from Leigh Morgan-Jones to All Participants:

Thanks to Anthony for the Twitter chat this week

from MADELYN GRIFFITHS to All Participants:

hello from Bristol

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from Kate Pound to All Participants:

Hi all :-)

from Rachel Volland to All Participants:

@Jonathon Williams where are you in Lancashire? It is high from sunny Salford, Manchester here

from Malanie Greenaway to All Participants:

A group us here from chilly Edmonton Canada

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

it's sunny in Leeds, Malanie, but definitely still chilly!

from Lori Williamson to All Participants:

Hi from a lovely sunny Buckinghamshire

from Felicity Mitchell to All Participants:

hello all

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

Caroline @soundadvice_pro, from spring-time Dublin, Ireland!

from Bonny Johnson to All Participants:

Sunny and cold in the Ottawa Valley Ontario Canada

from Kate Emery to All Participants:

Hello from Gorleston, Great Yarmouth

from eileen sharp to All Participants:

Hi all from sunny Stirling, Beautifu view of the castle

from Tanya Burchell to All Participants:

Hi from a sunny Gloucester

from joanne reay to All Participants:

Lovely and sunny in Fulbourn but slight breeze.... windows open!

from Tracy Clifford to All Participants:

small keen group here in caledon ontario

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from Mel Harrington to All Participants:

Hi all - sunny in Carlisle as well, makes a change!

from Mandy Rudczenko to All Participants:

difficult to apply this to carer experience

from Rob Cockburn to All Participants:

Scored mine high, but that was 3 years ago and I know it has 'fallen back' since then - lack of

sustainability

from Andrew Marsh to All Participants:

yes 6.5!

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

This of course assumes that specific objectives were defined and measured:-)

from julie smith to All Participants:

i scored mine a 10 but, the objectives were not the ones to deliver sustanable change

from Andrew Marsh to All Participants:

my thoughts too

from Fiona Mac to All Participants:

@mandy - as a carer, service standards, personalisation of care, TLAP?

from Lori Williamson to All Participants:

the individuals that had to implement the change were not invested in it

from Charlotte Welsh to All Participants:

Becky that is what I was thinking!

from Andrew Marsh to All Participants:

I may not have known the objectives ...

from colin Waldron to All Participants:

No change made as business case did not stack up and project stopped:-(

from Emily Lau to All Participants:

Rate of failure

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from Maya Pajevic to All Participants:

70% fail

from Rob Cockburn to All Participants:

numbers that fail

from Georgina Ritchie to All Participants:

safe zone

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

So Lean consultants can sell their business to you!

from vicki nash to All Participants:

fail rate

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

someone made it up

from Rachel Volland to All Participants:

Natural distibution of engagement and drop out?

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

LSC failure rate

from Hugo Lemay to All Participants:

critical mass

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Research from Kotter, Fuda, et al

from Michele Wood to All Participants:

not sure

from Trevor Fossey to All Participants:

%of of failure

from naomi ledwith to All Participants:

natural distribution

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from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

i'd have put it at unsuccessful

from Jane Ansell to All Participants:

Fail rate

from joanne reay to All Participants:

historic

from Jane Douthwaite to All Participants:

Total fail or fail to be as effective as they could be

from Avril Washington to All Participants:

But isn't this being challenged?

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

that is comforting somewhat when i consider my own failures

from Jane Ansell to All Participants:

Often driven from unrealistic goals

from Victoria Hill to All Participants:

Does this depend on how we measure? Surely some objectives would have been met, even if not full

change intended?

from Mandy Rudczenko to All Participants:

so are we asking too much or is the system too rigid?

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

both?

from jo Palmer to All Participants:

over what time periods?

from Rob Cockburn to All Participants:

1 -3 years is a short timescale for major cultural change

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

so proud to see i could class myself in the 5%

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from Yvonne Newbold to All Participants:

Is it that people's hearts aren't in it?

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Good chart here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/markmurphy/2016/06/05/this-chart-

shows-why-so-many-change-management-efforts-fail/amp/

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

too many competing priorities

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

Its that we dont get where peoples hearts are

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

too many cooks!

from chris malvern to All Participants:

scopecreep a big factor - sometimes objectives change....

from joanne reay to All Participants:

Constaqnt organisational changes prevent individuals from following through with projects they

start

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Lack of honesty about what the challenges really are

from Mandy Rudczenko to All Participants:

not enough CO-PRODUCTION!!!

from Tom de Salis to All Participants:

5% that maintain change would also have to achieve change in the first place

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Inability to openly discuss what's wrong without blame

from Lori Williamson to All Participants:

change is often forced on others without ensuring that this change is wanted

from Victoria Hill to All Participants:

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Often context has changed by the time you are scaling up, so maybe we need to be better at

continual review of change methods

from Douglas Natusch to All Participants:

Intersting - was involved in Spinal Collaboration - what learnign was there from those projects in

terms of scaling out from pilots?

from chris malvern to All Participants:

human factors - we don't like admitting it didn't work....

from patricia wimmer to All Participants:

No commitment with the goals set

from Rachel Volland to All Participants:

@Becky Haines I cant get that link to work

from Angela Catley to All Participants:

Sometimes scale can be 'scaling out' not just scaling up. The collective impact of lots of small

connected things.

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

change is hard - until you change yourself first

from Jane Ansell to All Participants:

The passion shown by leaders of change isnt felt by those that are left behind to manage it-

Stakeholder engagement needs to go beyond retoric, it needs to benefit individuals

from Katy McNeil to All Participants:

people moving on to new roles during change programme can be big issue - need to maintain core

team and commitment

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

www.forbes.com/sites/markmurphy/2016/06/05/this-chart-shows-why-so-many-change-

management-efforts-fail/amp/

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Maybe this?

from chris malvern to All Participants:

we don't invest enough effort in evaluation to demonstrate benefits....

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from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

individuals need to have ownership of the project too many are done TO them, not WITH them

from Stuart Clough to All Participants:

Coproduction, common goals and taking people with the change is the key for me. Communication

vital.

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

Vested interests? People wanting things to stay the same for their benefit?

from Jane Douthwaite to All Participants:

Yes power 'with' and not power 'over'

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Expectation is that change will happen in a very short space of time....

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Yes Caroline Carswell!

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

If you havent changed yourself at teh beginning then you will just get people down

from joanne reay to All Participants:

Achieving organisational change

through values alignment

Christopher M. Branson

St Francis College, Crestmead, Australia

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

for change to stick - it needs a gradual, inclusinve process

from Stuart Clough to All Participants:

@Becky Haines, precisely, the magic bullet springs to mind!

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Yes! Give up the illusion of control and get on with it.

from colin Waldron to All Participants:

Silos prevent horizontal processes!

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from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

Why do we expect that everyone will be rational - we only imagine that we are personally - self

reflect to get going

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

Change needs to go from grassroots level if possible - our experience anyway

from Douglas Natusch to All Participants:

Yes - the goal is the goal - agree

from Victoria Hill to All Participants:

Networks of motivated people better than hierarchical 'must-dos'

from colin Waldron to All Participants:

Read anything from Vanguard Consulting for faiure reasons - John Seddon is a great mentor.

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

@Victoria - yes, networks of motivated people! Sometimes patients / citizens.

from joanne reay to All Participants:

Don't forget the external factors that may be opportunities to deliver the change

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Senior managers fear having to hand over control of a project to staff = a sign of weakness in the

manager, not the staff

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

CHange is about helping people grow - not controlling their path

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

The change process thinking itself is asset based. i like this framing

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

@Adrian - Best change is network driven, peer to peer if possible.

from Rob Cockburn to All Participants:

Forget who said it but "coach the senior managmeent to get out of the way"

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

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absolutely Nigel, change grows in my experience

from Linda D'Arpino to All Participants:

And students!

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Yes Victoria Hill...Kotetr's premise in Accelerate

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Kotter

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

Loving this asset map...

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Asset mapping focuses on passion of community members to be successful

from joanne reay to All Participants:

Aligning the change to the organisations values (and our own) should be meaningful

from Douglas Natusch to All Participants:

Yup - come across all of these at some time or another...

from Victoria Hill to All Participants:

In the middle of reading Accelerate!

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

Dont play it safe with change - let the team provide safety by being empowered

from Mandy Rudczenko to All Participants:

it needs to include the barrier of lack of patient/carer involvement????

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Tip o' the hat to @Jim_Rawson_MD re asset mapping

from Sharon Brown to All Participants:

Too many strategies.

from Kate Pound to All Participants:

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https://www.hsj.co.uk/5083572.article link to the HSJ

from Karl Fredrik Westermann to All Participants:

Thanks, Kate! :-)

from James Rawson to All Participants:

Thanks Becky

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

For change you must have 1. A Vision 2. A strategy 3. People engaged - then they can make a plan

from Avril Washington to All Participants:

It's the exec that has no strategy, We do. They block it

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

can they make the vision Nigel?

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Conflicting priorities at directorate level - silo working

from Emma Kelly to All Participants:

This is so true! Need for a fewer priorities

from Sharon Brown to All Participants:

Agree Avril.

from Kate Pound to All Participants:

love this film from Nottingham (NUH) about their Just Do Its! https://www.hsj.co.uk/5083710.article

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

FOr change do not plan for people - help people make their plan for the agreed vision and stategy

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Insightful Avril

from Felicity Mitchell to All Participants:

we don't want buyers, we want investors .... module 3 :-)

from Mandy Rudczenko to All Participants:

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co-design with 'customers' is also critical

from Freya Burns to All Participants:

investment rather than buy in?

from Jane Ansell to All Participants:

Perfect example- Budget announcement & Primary Care Streaming Guidance GPs at the Front Door

is a Must Do. Other NHSE CHannel Shift Guidance published the same week says it snt cost effective

which was backed up by York University Lit Review which agreed. Mixed messages

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

get the frontline focussed and everything else will fall into place

from Angela Catley to All Participants:

The priority of public sector policy makers is rarely the same as the priority of local people and vice

versa. The knack is translation and connection

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Love this: The knack is translation and connection

from Tom de Salis to All Participants:

I work in Workforce Planning, so probably shouldn't admit to that one!

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

True for any organization seeking to make change

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

@Felicity, @Mandy - perfect points!

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

fair to say, they're all issues!

from Angela Catley to All Participants:

Also lots of differeent strategies that impact on each other but don't connect

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

'peverse incentives' - what incentives??

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How does one balance Project management with Complex science of change?

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from colin Waldron to All Participants:

Try STP for size as a confusing strategy!

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Perverse incentives: Make change, but keep doing what you've been doing...with the same

resources

from Bev Matthews to All Participants:

Agree Mandy - Participation, codesign and coproduction are key for creating the conditions for

moving to 'What matters to you' culture

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Common themes throughout - quiet shocking really

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

spot on Becky

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

Vision and strategy are actually the easiest thing to agree - so start there for effective change

from Paula Ward to All Participants:

There is some information on our web site at NUH about our Just Do It Scheme please take a look.

Thanks Kate

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

For inspiring leadership for change try starting with your service users - eg patients

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Open culture?? not had that in 17 years of working for the NHS

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

IMHO we make all of this too big...start small and demonstrate success at grassroots then move it up

in the organization

from Shelley Huffman to All Participants:

Interesting to ask this question to people in different roles - a project manager may have a very

different view than perhaps a frontline team member vs senior leader. Need to talk more and keep

folks open and engaged.

from Rachel Volland to All Participants:

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A lot of these mirror the previous set of factors which you woudl expect as the positive side of the

coin

from naomi ledwith to All Participants:

none

from naomi ledwith to All Participants:

none

from Si Chun Lam to All Participants:

Seen cases of perverse incentives in the form of very poorly designed "KPIs"

from Bev Matthews to All Participants:

the #EndPJParalysis is a fab example of just doing the right thing

from Rachel Volland to All Participants:

what does 'thought diversity mean?

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

differences of opinion

from David Grier to All Participants:

None are present. all are problems by their absence

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

We're getting there...lots of innovation attempts now that never would have happened before, but

not painless

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

different ages/levels of seniority/background

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

@becky i couldn't agree more, started small and was astounded where things ended up

from Kate Pound to All Participants:

https://www.nuh.nhs.uk/justdoit here is the link to the JDIs at NUH

from Stacey Kavanagh to All Participants:

wheres the option for all or none?

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from Kim Vereijken to All Participants:

Leading by example!

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Thx Tony

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

tick them all! :)

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

I'm thinking about kingsfund; no more heros. Need to encourage continual improvement, not LSC?

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

collaborative working vs. too many cooks - how do we balance

from Michele Wood to All Participants:

sadly I have to leave early today, but will catch up with the recording of the rest of today's session.

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Yes Tom! No need for heroics...exhausting. Just do a little bit everyday so it becomes the normal way

of working

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

I ticked them all but would really value someone to challenge that with me..

from Jane Ansell to All Participants:

Dissappointing leadership result

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

but i only ticked them all by working outside of my organisation !

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

Also, something about network solutions being difficult given the 'market' environment.

from Angela Rowe to All Participants:

Thought that too Jane....about a third with inspiring, supportive leadership

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

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If you are looking for passion for improvement which needs change then start talking about how you

feel and help people explore their feelings

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

@LucyButler: https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/sites/files/kf/Future-of-leadership-and-management-

NHS-May-2011-The-Kings-Fund.pdf

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

this sounds great

from Victoria Hill to All Participants:

Need to recognise hard work too, even if intended progress not made

from Lucy Butler to All Participants:

Brilliant - thanks Tom

from Douglas Natusch to All Participants:

Intersting, the parallels with people learning condition self management skills is strking

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

thanks lucy

from David Grier to All Participants:

I would suggest reading Daniel Pink "Drive" about motivation

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

my best days are always the ones where i feel things have been progressed and achieved

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

happening less recently

from Michele Young to All Participants:

I would agree - we are in limbo with a big service provision change at the moment - there is no

progress and it is so demotivating

from Avril Washington to All Panelists:

Ignite joy! Yes!

from David Grier to All Participants:

"Flow"

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from Andrew Marsh to All Participants:

ahahahahah!

from Wendy Johnson to All Participants:

Making the progress and celebrating that progress, sharing the joy

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Have realistic expectations

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Maslow!

from Emma Kelly to All Participants:

Lack of progress is so demotivatig - I struggle with resiliance at times when it can feel out of my own

control

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

is it about change or about reinvigoration?

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Another good one: https://hbr.org/2014/06/engaging-doctors-in-the-health-care-revolution

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

To help with motivation for change talk about what really matters - ask Why are we here - you will

be surprised how much you agree

from Andrea Selley to All Participants:

Intrinsic motivation - so important!

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Fun - yes - helps with stress

from Susan Martin to All Participants:

The suggestion about Dan Pink is great - his most recent 'Pinkcast' about finding your purpose (which

is really your organization's purpose) is very fitting for this

discussion.http://www.danpink.com/pinkcast/pinkcast-1-18-a-5-minute-exercise-for-discovering-

your-purpose/

from Rachel Volland to All Participants:

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Sadly I think we loose sight of the intrnsic personal motivators for people sometimes and use a stick

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Yes Adrian! Realistic expectations and the sense that we can walk before we run and be successful

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

thanks @BeckyHaines!

from Rachel Volland to All Participants:

Ask what matters to you rather than what is the matter?

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Thanks Susan for gr8 link

from david broomhall to All Participants:

This is what my trust uses for quality improvment

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yes rachel

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Wow. so many interesting references to go away and read - pots of tabs open!

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Public Sector ---reward??? ...

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yes me too, need to bookmark these tabs!

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Dan Pink is great - 'Drive' particularly good

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Can't keep up with them - clicking and nothign doing!

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this links to motivating self-care - e.g. Health Coaching

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@Rachel - communicating what matters to you, can lead to finding mobilisers

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Some intrinsic motivation can be those who work with their head and not their heart because that is

how they are wired and must not be lost in this!

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Intrinsic motivators may not be within your current organisation / workplace

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Intrinsic motivation means - "What is in your heart?"

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Thanks @Nigel

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if we relate this to maslows hierarchy of needs, where would intrinsic motivation lie? do they come

before the sense of security and food/belonging

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They're subconscious drivers!

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Health is easy when it comes to intrinsic motivation - almost everyone will agree that we are here for

the wellbeing of the community and patients

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www.wwl.nhs.uk/News/2014/.../wwl_already_leads_the_way.aspx

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How do you deal with a sitution where you have to do something, but neither motivation is there

apart from otherwise you'll get disciplined?

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INcentives are a devisive form of primary motivation

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Caregivers in US incented to do stuff to patients, but changing to value-based care where we are

working for and with patients

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from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

payment by results??? not happy about that.... smacks of private companies

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I wonder if intrinsic motivators find it harder to deal with stagnation/lack of change. Hit hard when

you are so passionate about the cause

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Disincentive demoralise because they appear to be amoral and harmful to our community and

patietns

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There's a piece missing - CO-PRODUCTION

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great point @Emma Kelly

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Thank you Mandy

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@EmmaKelly - couldnt agree more....

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clustering is no different to payment by results, cquins it's all there we just don't hear about them

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I think the key is its not all or none! You need a balance !

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Agree @Mandy, although if you use this model in collaboration, I guess that works?

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Mandy: what about leadership by all = PFCC (Patient and family centered care?)

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We all have intrinsic motivation. More empathy with others' motivation is necessary.

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@Mandy encompassed in Shared Purpose?

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Avoid being eaten up by others attempts to motivate you - keep to the core - what matters to our

community and patietns

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Yes Muhammad!

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@Rob - not if we pressume we know best! Professional 'expert' power...

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Thanks.....I think it's rife in current enviornment and we need to keep the passion of our teams

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*presume

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change agents need to have responsiblity AND authority - not just responsibility.....

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Adrian - or at least a lever into authority?

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How do we get through the curent change fatigue?

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Love examples of tools that make this intentional rather than "good ideas" Discipline needed to

review outcomes along the way and adjust as needed

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@Mandy Good challenge. For me it's encompassed in the first 3 - shared purpose, leadership by all

and motivate and mobilise

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How do we promote that shared purpose with our leaders?

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autonomy more important than authority?

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@naomi - yes, agree

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how do we define authority?

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So true Adrian - so we must cede the authority to the people

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KPIs drive perverse behaviours

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could fit Co-Pro into some of the pieces but then can get 'TEA-BAG CO-PRODUCTION' - just dip it in

for a few seconds!!

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Responsible is being accountable - authority is being in control (usually an illusion)

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@Mandy - lol. So true.

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How to balance intrinsic leadership with the top down demands that are part of many leadership

roles? Changes that may not be on our agenda but is the national or organisational agenda

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interstingly

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From Ejiro More importantly how do we get them to listen to the quite vioces in thier midst?

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authority in this context is the "permission" to carry out action

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Very true Adrian - so we have to try not to hang on to authority and share it out

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Compliant People can sometimes suffer from Functional Stupidity which basically means they do

their work but don;t think about it!

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@Mandy - TEA-BAG COPRODUCTION - Brilliant!

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waiting for permission to act isn't always the way to go...

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love the LD example template.....dot voting a great democratic tool too....

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distributed leadership does rock...

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might be waiting a long time for permission

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@Naomi- love it!

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Dan Pink again... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

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#JFDI :)

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Temptation is to see people as one or the other, but really lots of gray here

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you need both kinds of people the trick is knowing what each needs to motivate and enthuse them

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yes @NaomiBrook

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I worry in this kind of model that we are demonizing/judging a group much as we have done in the

past with introverts

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from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

thanks @emma :)

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Love being a contributor. Far from compliant! Born rebel!

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Yes Frances! colleagues who may be perceived as compliant may be actually more thoughtful. Also

valuable

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When you run the next trinaing event for improvement - give all participants an authority card - "You

are hereby authorised to change the system" - best if signed by the CEO

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Plodders & achievers in 80's speak, turns out we need both.

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you can work with employees to change from compliant to contributor. LISTEN to them and give

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How are executives measured against this ie mainly contributers or compliant?

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seek forgiveness, don't ask permission...

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was told many years ago by a director from our trust - if you see something needs changing, just do

it. we need to ask permission once the groundwork has been done and are ready to make the

change

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Think we are a (small) organisation of contributors - not sure if that is a good thing or not! Do we

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@nigel - love that idea - stealing it for next time :)

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Exceutives are emasued by the ctlrue of the organisation and the engagement of the people

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i live by that Tom

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Yeah - a slide with CO-PRODUCTION on it!!!!

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me too @tom!

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Harry is correct - cede the power

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Even with permission to change, need support

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haha @mandy is happy!

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generally i find people find it hard to let go

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Co-production is key!

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public value management...oh no... :-)

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We need our managers/executives to be contributers, but the higher structures want them to be

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energising people is the key to creating effective change - it matters to them

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SO true @AlisonWilson-Shaw

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If the focus is on patients, its easier to let go of old ways of working.

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'a facilitator of joy' on a job spec - love this !! I'll be going for that job..

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LOVE the term Facilitator of Joy!

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This is rining bells in my mind making me think of the Mental Health "Recovery" movment...

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absolutely @becky - focus on why we are doing this

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once the joy is gone- I move to find new joy. "who moved my joy?"

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I think I will take hypertension of my job description and add facilitation of joy

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@Clare v true, also hello CPD!

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Love it Nigel!

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Who is this Joy and where does she work

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Brill @JulieSmith!!!

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Empathy not just for patients but for your staff too :)

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works really well along side the project I work on that have a 'dream based provision'

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i no longer allow others to steal my joy

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*projects

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BUt I will keep taking the tablets to be on the safe side

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We're all going to ACR HR later today and changing our job descriptions:-)

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Agent4Change and Joy Faciltator - great!

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THe best job description is one you write yourself

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lol @adrian

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i dont facilitate joy- I spread it

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@Nigel so true

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i seek it

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i seek, facilitate, embody and spread it :)

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#1 on this list is so prevalent!!!!!

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Joy is my middle name

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To keep energy for change keep recharging your batteries by talking yo your service users - write a

journal and highlight the god days to read again later

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Aha! Freya - you are the missing Joy

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@Nigel - yes - credit where credit is due!

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Ideally the change effort morphs into a new change effort that keeps change a constant

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http://pixar.wikia.com/wiki/Joy

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Last year, I acheived 3. I was not prepared for the personal impact. im still struggling

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Very true @Nigel. Reconnecting with patients or service users recharges the batteries

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joy comes from engagement and considering wellbeing...

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Build the energy change and keep doing it - go thermonuclear

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Finding your 'flock' is so important for joy

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What if it just becomes the way you work with engaged and motivated teams and individuals who

are always looking to spread joy and improvement?

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Yes @NaomiBrook!

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from Fiona Mac to All Participants:

@NigelMillar - take laughter three times a day, with water. p.s. Joy is 82, low blood pressure and

retired! :-)

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Put the 5 together and you reach a critical mass -

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but what do you do when the flock moves off and leaves you behind?

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create your own flock

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@Julie Smith - find a new one :)

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@Julie Smith: be happy knowing that you are disseminating your work broadly and find a new flock:-

)

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https://www.depts.ttu.edu/upwardbound/books/the-7-habits-ofhighly-effective-people.pdf

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The Golden Thread of Relationships!

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Psychological energy - ask for forgiveness not permission! :-)

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Yes @catherine Fleetwood! can be tricky though

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@Julie - run with the pack of wolves

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http://qualitysafety.bmj.com/content/early/2015/06/02/bmjqs-2015-004160

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Psychological safety, oh yes...

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Love these five energies

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absolutely @Naomi - takes courage!

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Thanks, Chris! :-)

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You can change one step at a time - it helps to achieve 10,000 steps per day

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Love these energy domian too

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^lol!

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oh dear...im on the wrong side of the energy level

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'facilitator of courage' @catherine fleetwood?

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one for my CV haha

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right, thats enough. Flock, where are you

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Me and my team too!

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Problem is big differnce between energies inn my organsiation vs my department!

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loving the connection between these 5 energies and change

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#findyourflock

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Love these energy domian too

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The difference between Monday and Friday! :)

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we're all here @julie smith

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....and reason leads to wisdom..

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Love this slide!

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You also need dark energy

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only thing that matters is what can be measured

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Me too! Yes - completely agree with Helen

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anything other than intellectual energy, seems illogical

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this reminds me of something i saw today actually

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and again..........I have a dream! (not a 10 point management plan and extensive evidence base

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so, no selfcare?

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

ideas that remain on paper or in the mind

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And of STPs - that's a worry

from julie smith to All Participants:

well they arent going to get off the ground are they?

from joanne reay to All Participants:

Thats because the plans were done by one person and not shared

from Avril Washington to All Participants:

They will try to impose

from Karen Perkins to All Participants:

STPs are being done for the wrong reason - money not better care provision.....that's sapping energy

from everyone!

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Co-Creation

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fantastic Red Team - go CoPro

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Let's face it, we can't know everything. > focus on intellectual is to reduce risk inherent in change

activities

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re: intellect https://twitter.com/Lukejones03/status/839820715587141632/photo/1

from Maya Pajevic to All Participants:

codesigning

from Sharon Brown to All Participants:

Bet the red plan was a story not a narrative

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from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

@avril - yes - the "old" power

from julie smith to All Participants:

i woldnt want to be in the purple one

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

THe balanced place is where and equal number of people complain that there is no plan or that

there plan is too far ahead

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theyll get off the ground bu be draging folk with them ..... creative logic. Its a better combination

from Elizabeth Bleu to All Participants:

Interesting that intellect and physical are "external" compared to spiritual and psychological that

require a deeper level personally of commitment and energy

from Susan Martin to All Participants:

but what if your whole workplace is so lopsided - never mind plans for change?

from Avril Washington to All Participants:

Need quite a team to achieve all that

from Emma Hill to All Participants:

thats ok

from joanne reay to All Participants:

Love the Luke Jones

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gotta go sorry!

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Also exposing social and spiritual and psychological energy requires trust in other members of team

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Yes Elizabeth Bleu!

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One person can have high psychological energy and benefit from rising social & spiritual energy in

the right contexts.

from Frances Mead to All Participants:

quite agree with you Becky TRUST is key

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Great session & brilliant contributions from Participants thx

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

leaders are teflon-coated

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Agree 100% Adrian...resilience

from chris malvern to All Participants:

shared purpose = transformation

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

leaders have to be teflon coated or they don't have enough resiliance to do their job!

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

i never want to be so thick skinned though that i lose my ability to feel

from Nigel Millar to All Participants:

A shared porpoise adds to the fun - they are so smart

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

that's an individual task for me!

from Avril Washington to All Participants:

But we are sold things with shared purpse disguise but really defacto

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

@tom - agree - but means that they aren't accountable as well

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Remember we are all leaders. Beware reinforcing them and us. We are all signal generators.

Change starts with me!

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from Alison Wilson-Shaw to All Participants:

Co-creation should lead to shared purpose and then co-production

from Karen Perkins to All Participants:

STP - defacto puporse in our organisation.

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Thanks for reminder Hazel!

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

The social movement tenets!

from Avril Washington to All Participants:

Seth Carguilo my hero!

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

@hazel - you are right - my bad

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love the Seth quote

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@adrian... Not bad. Full of potential to make and shape great choices :-)

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shared purpose is key

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Mind the Gap Coventry :)

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yes @angela!

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Shared purpose- so important to sustain energy

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

totally resonates and we've recently agreed we need to do more

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from Emma Kelly to All Participants:

Perfect quote to end on

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Jaben - yes investment is two-way

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

@Adrian - so much accountability in the system is self serving, this is where it comes full circle and

back to patients.

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Good visual

from Karen Perkins to All Participants:

great visual!

from Avril Washington to All Participants:

I lied! Dov Seidman is my new hero!

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Question: Do you think you can get a shared purpose whilst having defacto purpose(s)?

from Tony Longbone to All Participants:

lol @avril

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love the last slide

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#offthehook

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

quite a challenging session today

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agree @adrian

from Lisa Saminaden to All Participants:

An excellent session love the last quote

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from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

like it!

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Great session thanks

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Last slide makes me verklempt (sp?)

from Sharon Kelly to All Participants:

Great thank you

from Rebecca Fyffe to All Participants:

Great session - many thanks

from joanne reay to All Participants:

A very good session - thank you everyone

from Bonny Johnson to All Participants:

love the quote!

from patricia wimmer to All Participants:

Good for thought...Much to think about

from Mandy Rudczenko to All Participants:

good change is messy - coproduction is messy

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

thanks for today

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

thank you for another challenging and inspiring hour

from Hazel Murgatroyd to All Participants:

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - took the one less travelled by; And that has made all the

difference (Robert Frost) #boatrocker

from Angela Rowe to All Participants:

Brilliant session - thank you!

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from Lisa Sharrock to All Participants:

Amazing session thank you so much Helen

from Maya Pajevic to All Participants:

thank yoo

from Michelle Lewis to All Participants:

Another great session..

Thank you

from Lori Williamson to All Participants:

Brilliant module - lots to reflect on

from Michele Young to All Participants:

Great session - I love the fact that we are looking to change the way we change.

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Marjolein: htink we need both or no action

from Val Edwards to All Participants:

Really enjoyed the session with inspiring things to think about thank you

from Caroline Carswell to All Participants:

Disrupting ourselves - love it

from Naomi Brook to All Participants:

'be the change you want to see' - ghandi! :)

from Chris Butler to All Participants:

thank you again for an enlightening session

from Tom O'Sullivan to All Participants:

Thanks all & @Sch4Change

from Karen Perkins to All Participants:

I'm off to spread some joy....thank you!

from Ruth Nelson to All Participants:

Still reminded on being the change I want to see...

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from Tami Rich to All Participants:

Helen YOU'RE inspiring! As a medical mom I may be solo out here but the energy you speak of -

which I get from the patient community - is what refuels me. I turn to that when I feel down. At this

moment I see a mic drop #BeTheChange

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Utterly brilliant session. Thanks all!

from Marjolein Don to All Participants:

Thanks Becky - it seemed during the session that shared is better than defacto...

from Mel Harrington to All Participants:

Loved the session and particularly like Dov seidman quote. Thank you :)

from Douglas Natusch to All Participants:

Many thanks Helen and Team. I feel like I have had an injection of hope. Sorry not to be able to

participate in the chat room.

from Lisa Stewart to All Participants:

Thank you!

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Great presentation! Thank you!

from Frances Mead to All Participants:

thanks, great session

from Becky Haines to All Participants:

Thanks for a great session from your pals at the American College of Radiology

from MADELYN GRIFFITHS to All Participants:

Great inspiring session, thank you

from Adrian Woodfield to All Participants:

Thanks Helen, et al

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Thanks everyone - I hope you can stay for the breakouts shortly...

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Thanks!

from Shelley Huffman to All Participants:

Thanks Helen -- great as usual.

from Lori Williamson to All Participants:

sorry can't stay for the breakout session

from Catherine Fleetwood to All Participants:

Tschüss

from Angela Catley to All Participants:

Thanks a lot

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Thanks Helen

from Emma Kelly to All Participants:

Thank you so much Helen. So much energy. It's contagious!

from Mandy Rudczenko to All Participants:

many thanks - have to go now

from Jonathan Williams to All Participants:

Thank you

from Wendy Johnson to All Participants:

Each session buillds on and is more inspiring than the last ! Thanks

from jo Palmer to All Participants:

many thanks :)

from Yvonne Newbold to All Participants:

Many thanks for another great session, lots to think about. I'm unable to stay for the break out

session, hope you all have some fab convos.

from Fiona Mac to All Participants:

Thanks, #Stay Well

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from Kathryn Perera to All Participants:

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from Patricia Burns to All Participants:

Great session, sorry have to go!

from Rob Cockburn to All Participants:

OK all just finished breakout session. Interest in further info on Energy for Change and the

assessment tool behind it. I did note that it is normally carried out by a trained facilitator (did

training several years ago with Rosanna). Happy to follow up.

from Rob Cockburn to All Participants:

Thanks for a great session

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