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Minutes of the 34th MMPDS
Coordination Meeting
Held in:
Charlotte, NC September 23-27, 2019r 2019
Compiled by: Prepared for:
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34th MMPDS Coordination Meeting – Table of Contents
Chairman’s Remarks ..................................................................................................................................... 1
Approval of the 33rd MMPDS Meeting Minutes ......................................................................................... 1
Summaries..................................................................................................................................................... 2
New Item Numbers Assigned in 2019 ...................................................................................................... 3Closed Agenda Items .................................................................................................................................. 6Final Minutes Agenda Item Summary .................................................................................................... ...8
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34th MMPDS Coordination Meeting
Chairman’s Remarks – Mark James, FAA
I want to thank everyone who participated in the 34th MMPDS coordination meetings held in Charlotte, North Carolina. I would also like to thank the Battelle team for organizing and managing the week’s activities.
I would also like to thank the outgoing Chair and Vice-Chairs of the Industry Steering Group (ISG), Andrew Steevens and Peter Bittner, for their time and service, and welcome Peter Bittner and Christoph Heine (Airbus) as the incoming ISG Chair and Vice-Chair’s respectively.
In addition to this changing of the guard, Jim Kabbara has moved on to other activities that demand 100% of his time. So we say goodbye and thank him profusely for all of his efforts in supporting MMPDS activities over the years. I will be moving from the Vice-Chair to the Chairman Position and look forward to the challenges ahead. Due to the increased demand on my time, I must give up some other things. So Michael Gorelik, who is the FAA Chief Scientist and Technical Advisor (CSTA) for Fatigue and Damage Tolerance, has agreed to take over my Co-Chair Position alongside Sam Cordner (NASA) overseeing the Emerging Technology Task Group (ETTG). A big welcome and thanks to him for stepping up into this role.
Thanks again for attending the 34th MMPDS Coordination meetings. Your commitment, dedication and donation of your valuable time to maintain MMPDS is most appreciated. I look forward to seeing everyone at the 35th MMPDS Coordination meetings.
Best Regards,Chairman, Mark James
Mark JamesStandards Staff Engineer for Small AirplanesStructures, Flammability andNoise Control Specialist (NCS)
Approval of the 33rd MMPDS Meeting Minutes
The 33rd MMPDS Coordination Meeting Minutes were approved.
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SUMMARIES
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19-01 Stabilization of Specifications and Other Specification Changes
19-02 Equivalent Rounds for Steel Alloys
19-03 Revision of Sunset Clause
19-04 Considerations for Certifying an AM Part
19-05 Derived Properties Requirement When Expanding Thickness Range in a Table
19-06 Identification of Forging Types for PH13-8 and MLX17
19-07 Identification of Response to Heat Treat Properties in MMPDS
19-08 One-Sample Equivalence Method
19-09 Removing Test Specification Version
19-10 Secondary Properties for 718 Bar per AMS 5662 and AMS 5663
19-11 Updates to Several Load Control Fatigue Figures
19-12 Clarify Minimum Content Requirements for Public Specifications - Section 9.2.2
19-13 Mechanical and Physical Properties of 2043-T85 Aluminum Alloy Extrusions
19-14 Clarification of Off-Axis Orientation
19-15 Update Section 9.4.1"S-Basis Minimum Properties" to Include Censored Normal
19-16 Update Creep Curve Formats
19-17 Minimum Content Requirements for Public Specifications - Volume II
19-18 Addition of Stress-Strain Curves & Physical Properties for 7097-T7651 Plate
19-19 Consideration of a new Equivalent Stress model for Load-Controlled Fatigue
19-20 Data Requirements for Volume II
19-21 Determine Buckling Notes for Existing Figures With Dual-Shape Parameters
19-22 Develop a Heat-Normalized Approach for Strength vs. Temperature Analysis
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New Item Numbers Assigned in 2019
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34th MMPDS Coordination Meeting
New Item Numbers Assigned in 2019
19-23 Review and Revise MMPDS Bylaws
19-24 Guidelines for Identification of Punch/Blanking Shear Properties
19-25 Guidelines for Derived Properties for Legacy Alloys
19-26 Definitions for Process Intensive Materials & Technologies - Volume II
19-27 Stabilization of AMS-S-6758 for 4130 Steel Bars
19-28 Secondary Properties - Disposition of Legacy values and Publication of New Alloys
19-29 Addition of Term Definition for Lower Tail Censoring (Section 9.5.4.10)
19-30 Correction to Creep Stress Parameters for L-605 and Haynes 282 Alloys
19-31 Update of SCC and Modulus for 2014-T651 Aluminum Alloy Plate
19-32 Stress corrosion cracking of 7xxx aluminum alloys in high humidity environments: testing methods and propagation mechanisms
19-33 Upgrade Bearing Strength from S- to A-/B-Basis 7075-T6 Bare Sheet
19-34 Waive Requirement for Bearing and/or Shear Properties When Appropriate
19-35 Re-Evaluate R-Squared Acceptance Requirment for Joint Allowables
19-36 Update Section 9.2.4.7 Fastener Strength Table Sunset Clause
19-37 Establish a Guideline for Reinserting Chapter 8 Tables.
19-38 Process Intensive Materials & Technologies SDO Coordination
19-39 Review Chapter 8 Tables Removed by the Sunset Clause
19-40 Review Section 9.4 Substantiation of Data
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19-41 Confirmation of Design Properties of AMS 4911 for Ti-6Al-4V Sheet and Plate
19-42 Confirmation of Design Properties of AMS 4202 for 7475-T7251 Aluminum Alloy Plate
19-43 Upgrade of Design Properties of AMS 4154 for 7075-T6511 Aluminum Alloy Extrusion
19-44 Update Stress-Strain Figures to Report Bron Method Relevance
19-45 Addition of A206.0-T4 and T71 Sand Casting Fatigue Analyses
19-46 Review Table 8.1.2(a)
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10-17Re-evaluate Legacy Alloy Stress-Strain
Curves in Chapter 3
Approved and
ClosedTables will be removed as shown.
14-24
Identification of Stress-Strain Curves
Which Have Been Evaluated for 2-Shape
Factor for Chapters 4-7
Approved and
Closed
New note for Bron method evaluation approved. Open new
Item 19-44 to add this note to old figures that were
evaluated for the Bron method, but found not relevant.
16-40Estimated Values in Table 7.3.2.0(c )
Copper Beryllium Strip
Approved and
Closed
16-41Update Static Property Examples in
Section 9.8.1
Approved and
Closed
Example problems approved as shown. Proposed MIDAS
output Excel file will be sent out to all members for
feedback and desired outputs. New item will be opened for
new example additions.
17-09 Fatigue Curves for 2099-T83 Extrusion
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Fatigue curves approved with editorial changes to
correlative information in Figure a.
17-10 Fatigue Curve for 2099-T81 ExtrusionApproved and
ClosedFatigue curve approved as shown.
17-33Alternative Fitting Function for Effect of
Temperature Data
Closed w no
ActionOn hold until data needing this method are received.
17-47Clarification of Guidance for
Normal/Censored Normal Analysis
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Approved with the note to add "a)" to footnote text below
the revised table.
17-58 How Casting Specification WorkClosed w no
Action
18-06Revision of Figure 9.3.4.4 Failure Codes for
Fasteners
Closed w no
Action
18-09 Update Creep Guidance in Chapter 1Approved and
Closed
18-14
Addition of A206.0-T4 and T71 Sand
Casting Physical Properties, and Fatigue
Analyses
60 Day
Approval
Stress-strain curves will be approved after 60 days. Open a
new Item 19-45 to continue fatigue analysis.
18-18Update AMS-QQ-A-250/4 in Table
8.2.2.1.2(a) (MMPDS-13)
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Table approved with editiorial changes.
18-22Legacy Confirmation and Upgrade to A-
and B-basis for 7075-T76511 Extrusion
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
For some of the derived properties, change to S basis for 1-
2in thickness ranges due to small number of samples.
Kaiser and Universal Alloys volunteered to send material
and data to AFRL for testing. Goal is to get 20 tests in
thicker thickness range (2.5-3in).
19-03 Revision of Sunset Clause
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
FTG: Approved with changes. Opened Item 19-36 to make
additional revisions and Item 19-37, and -39 to revisit
tables that have already been removed from Chapter 8.
19-03 Revision of Sunset Clause
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
GTG: Approved with changes. Open a new item to address
when a table that cannot be confirmed would be removed
vs. just watermarked or footnoted.
CLOSED AGENDA ITEMS
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19-08 One-Sample Acceptance Testing Method60 Day
Approval
Will circulate version with editiorial changes for review and
approval.
19-13aMechanical and Physical Properties of
2043-T85 Aluminum Alloy Extrusions
Approved and
ClosedApproved with editorial change to fix L45LT formatting.
19-13bMechanical and Physical Properties of
2043-T85 Aluminum Alloy Extrusions
60 Day
Approval
Stress-strain curves moved to 60 day approval. Relevant
Bron evaluation and buckling notes will be added.
19-14 Clarification of Off-Axis Orientation
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Proposed sections will be updated with agreed upon
changes .
19-18Addition of Stress-Strain Curves & Physical
Properties for 7097-T7651 Plate
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Stress-strain curves and physical properties approved the
content of the Handout with minor editorial changes.
19-22Develop a Heat-Normalized Approach for
Strength vs. Temperature Analysis
Approved and
Closed
19-23 Review and Revise MMPDS BylawsApproved and
Closed
Bylaws will be revised as proposed and posted on the
MMPDS.org website
19-24Guidelines for Identification of
Punch/Blanking Shear Properties
Approved and
ClosedSections will be revised as shown.
19-26Definitions for Process Intensive Materials
& Technologies - Volume II
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Remove definitions of Feedstock Heat and Feedstock Lot.
The <alternate> definition was adopted for xxxx. Remaining
definitions approved with changes.
19-27Stabilization of AMS-S-6758 for 4130 Steel
Bars
Approved and
Closed
19-28
Secondary Properties - Disposition of
Legacy values and Publication of New
Alloys
60 Day
Approval
The policy documented with changes as discussed will be
sent out for 60-day approval in the minutes. This policy will
be used until 15-36 is resolved. The Handbook will not be
changed but the policy will be shared in the interim.
19-29Addition of Term Definition for Lower Tail
Censoring (Section 9.5.4.10)
Approved and
Closed
19-30Correction to Creep Stress Parameters for
L-605 and Haynes 282 Alloys
Approved and
Closed
19-31Update of SCC and Modulus for 2014-
T651 Aluminum Alloy Plate
Approved and
ClosedMTG decided that Ec should not be changed.
19-32
Stress corrosion cracking of 7xxx
aluminum alloys in high humidity
environments: testing methods and
propagation mechanisms
Closed w no
Action
Presentation was given by Constellium. Approved version
will be circulated in the minutes.
34th MMPDS Coordination MeetingCLOSED AGENDA ITEMS
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Final Initial
03-14 MTG ASGReview of Currency of Existing Database
on Legacy AlloysContinue
Open new items I9-41 and 19-42 for AMS 4911 (Ti-6Al-4V)
and AMS 4202 (7475-T7351).
04-21 FTG Fastener Tables of Sunset Review Interest ContinueThis item is on hold, pending items 12-50, 12-105, 17-28,
17-29, and 17-30.
08-23 FTGSunset Review of Table 8.1.3.2.2(c),
NAS1921CContinue
This item is on hold, pending items 12-50, 12-105, 17-28,
17-29, and 17-30.
09-13 FTGSunset Review of Table 8.1.3.2.3(a),
MS21140Continue
This item is on hold, pending items 12-50, 12-105, 17-28,
17-29, and 17-30.
10-14 MTG ASGWrought Aluminum Alloys with S-Basis
MinimumsContinue
Open new item 19-43 for AMS 4154 7075-T6511 extrusion
for analysis.
10-15 MTGMechanical Properties for Aluminum
Alloy Forgings Continue
Item named changed to remove "Aluminum" to apply this
item to all forgings. Data will be requested for Ti-6Al-4V
die forgings per AMS 4928, 6931, and 4920. Analysis for
AMS 4179 will be initiated if time provided. More guidance
needed from PSG on #8.
10-17 MTGRe-evaluate Legacy Alloy Stress-Strain
Curves in Chapter 3
Approved and
ClosedTables will be removed as shown.
10-25 GTG-F FTGFastener Installation Parameters for Joint
Tension AllowablesContinue No effort at this time.
11-05 MTG AMS Coordination Continue
Provided updates on hot topics from the AMS meeting
held Sept 16-19. Recently balloted AMS specs will be listed
in the minutes.
11-15 MTGDivision of Low Alloy Steel Table
2.3.1.0(g2) Continue
Corrections and comments will be incorporated. Revised
table will be proposed at the next meeting.
11-38 FTG
Sunset Review of Flush Head, Mechanical
Lock Spindle Blind Rivet Table 8.1.3.2.2(e)
NAS 1921 M
ContinueThis item is on hold, pending items 12-50, 12-105, 17-28,
17-29, and 17-30.
11-43 FTGSupporting Data and Basis Identification
for Table 8.1.2(b)Continue No effort at this time.
12-17 MTG
ASG &
MATSS
G
Footnote for Non-Ferrous Alloys Test
Specimen When Not From Full ThicknessContinue
Need to identify non-ferrous alloys where this footnote is
applicable.
12-50 GTG-F FTGEvaluation of new Regression and
Confidence Models for Lap Joint TestsContinue No effort at this time.
12-52 GTG-F FTG Fastener Minimum t/D Requirements ContinueContinued. Minutes will be circulated for review. New
proposal will be prepared for the next meeting
12-89 GTG PSGTarget Materials for Propulsion
ApplicationsContinue PSG did not have a formal meeting.
12-105 GTG-F FTGModification to the Sunset Criteria
ProceduresContinue This item is pending resolution of Item 17-28.
13-34 MTGAddition of AMS 4919 Ti-6-2-4-2 Plate
PropertiesContinue
Waiting on fatigue crack growth data from AFRL. Tiffany D
from Arconic would be best POC for data we are waiting
on. Battelle will go ahead and work on static properties
from ATI and Arconic.
13-50 GTG ASTM Coordination Continue
No notable updates. Waiting on ASTM to work on
specification related to Item 14-19. ASTM B831 is ready to
be used in round robin testing to develop precision and
bias criteria. Contact Battelle or Hailey Jesequel if you are
interested.
14-19 GTG Inclusion of KIsi Fracture Toughness Data ContinueASTM is still working on specification. There is an
outstanding ballot.
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14-24 MTG
Identification of Stress-Strain Curves
Which Have Been Evaluated for 2-Shape
Factor for Chapters 4-7
Approved and
Closed
New note for Bron method evaluation approved. Open
new Item 19-44 to add this note to old figures that were
evaluated for the Bron method, but found not relevant.
14-28 FTGSunset Review of Table 8.1.4.2(i), LGPL2SC-
V Pin, 3SLC-C Collar in Clad 7075-T6Continue
This item is on hold, pending items 12-50, 12-105, 17-28,
17-29, 17-30, and 18-23.
14-62 GTGEvaluate Inclusion of other Fracture
Toughness Data (JIC, KJIC)Continue
Continue with proposed approach. Sam Cordner from
NASA provided an outline.
14-66 MTGAddition of 15-5PH Sheet S-Basis per AMS
5862 for H1025 Condition Continue Data are needed.
14-67 MTGAddition of 3-6 Inch Range for 7075-T73X
Bar and Rod per AMS 4124Continue Waiting on data.
15-13 MTGISG &
GSG
Clarification of Shear Orientation for
Legacy AlloysContinue
Continued. Need resolution of Items 19-24 & 19-25 and
more research.
15-19 GTG-F FTGVerification of Secondary Modulus
Methods for FastenersContinue No effort at this time.
15-36 GTGISG &
GSGModification of Indirect Analysis Equation Continue
Will continue developing improvements to indirect
method. Next steps are defining parameter space for
which new approach is acceptable and tuning approach to
account for skewness.
15-38 GTG
Reevaluation of Degrees of Freedom
Calculation for Regression with Effect of
Temperature
Continue Feedback requested after minutes are circulated.
15-40 GTGASG/M
ATSSG
Guidelines for When Specimens Are Not
From Full ThicknessContinue
More end-user metallurgist and end-user stress analyst
input needed on this topic. Suggestions from GTG
discussion will be incorporated.
15-42 MTGCasting Allowables for 15-5PH and 17-4PH
steelContinue Analysis initiated.
16-02 GTGUpdates to Strain Departure Methods for
Stress-Strain Curve AnalysesContinue Refined method will be proposed at the next meeting.
16-12 FTGIdentifying Basis of Fastener Shear
Strength on Remaining TablesContinue No effort at this time
16-13 FTGCorrections to Table 8.1.3.2.2(c) NAS
1921CContinue
This item is on hold, pending items 12-50, 12-105, 17-28,
17-29, 17-30, and 18-23.
16-20 GTG ETTGEquivalence Testing Assuming Change in
Process (From Item 11-40)Continue
This item is on hold while working on one-sample
equivalence method.
16-23 GTG PSGRe-evaluate Guidelines for Effect of
Temperature CurvesContinue PSG did not have a formal meeting.
16-29 GTG ASGReview of Section 1.4.7 Bearing
PropertiesContinue
Feedback will be incorporated into an agenda for the next
meeting.
16-36 GTG-F FTG
Use of T99 as A-Basis When Higher than
Specification for Fastener Shear and
Tension
ContinueFTG agreed with this approach. Agenda item will be
prepared for the next meeting with a formal proposal.
16-37 GTG-F FTGChapter 1 Guidelines on Fastener Design
Allowable UsageContinue No effort at this time.
16-40 MTGEstimated Values in Table 7.3.2.0(c )
Copper Beryllium Strip
Approved and
Closed
16-41 GTGUpdate Static Property Examples in
Section 9.8.1
Approved and
Closed
Example problems approved as shown. Proposed MIDAS
output Excel file will be sent out to all members for
feedback and desired outputs. New item will be opened
for new example additions.
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17-09 MTG Fatigue Curves for 2099-T83 Extrusion
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Fatigue curves approved with editorial changes to
correlative information in Figure a.
17-10 MTG Fatigue Curve for 2099-T81 ExtrusionApproved and
ClosedFatigue curve approved as shown.
17-19 MTGAddition of Transverse Bearing Strength
Properties for Custom 465 BarContinue
Arvind M. (Caprpenter) said at 33rd meeting that he will
provide data.
17-23 GTG Legacy Alloy Review Strategy – Near Term Continue On hold until Fall 2020.
17-25 GTGRe-evaluation of Reduced Ratio Sample
Size DeterminationContinue On hold pending Item 15-36.
17-26 GTGASG/MATSSG/PSGGuidelines for Generation and Use of A/B
Allowables for CastingsContinue
GTG decided that this item is not ready to be finalized.
Boeing and others to send Battelle technical comments to
review.
17-26b GTGASG/MATSSG/PSGGuidelines for Generation and Use of A/B
Allowables for CastingsContinue
Invitation will be sent for further discussion on the
comments contained in this handout and the related item.
17-28 GTG-F FTGConsideration of Origin in Multiple
Regression Analysis for Joint AllowablesContinue No effort at this time.
17-29 GTG-F FTG
Replacement of T90 Yield Curve with a
Multiple-Regression Typical Yield Curve
for Joint Allowables
Continue No effort at this time.
17-30 GTG-F FTGRevision of Table Format for Joint
AllowablesContinue No effort at this time.
17-31 FTGSunset Shear Strength Rule Criteria
AdditionContinue No effort at this time.
17-32 GTG-F FTG Edit Table 8.1.5.1 Continue This item is on hold, pending item 12-52.
17-33 GTG PSGAlternative Fitting Function for Effect of
Temperature Data
Closed w no
ActionOn hold until data needing this method are received.
17-34 GTG SSWGGuidelines for Rejection of Stress-Strain
Curves from Parametric AnalysisContinue
GTG agreed with approach. Proposal will be prepared for
the Spring meeting.
17-45 MTGEffect of Temperature Curves for 2395-
T84 ExtrusionContinue No effort on this item.
17-47 GTG-F FTGClarification of Guidance for
Normal/Censored Normal Analysis
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Approved with the note to add "a)" to footnote text
below the revised table.
17-52 GTG FatWGReview Section 9.6.1 - Load and Strain
Control FatigueContinue
P. Vanderpool has requested a list of individuals interested
in working on this item. Contact D. Hall for more
information.
17-54 MTGInclusion of Properties for AMS 4221,
2124-T8151 PlateContinue Data are requested.
17-55 MTG PSG Supplemental Data for Ti-6-2-4-2 Forging Continue No effort at this time.
17-56 MTG FCG Analysis for 2397-T87 Plate Continue Waiting on data. Nick Wood is checking on available data.
17-58 MTG How Casting Specification WorkClosed w no
Action
17-61 GTG FatWGRevising R-curve Requirement in Table
9.2.4Continue
17-62 GTG FatWGRevising Fatigue Requirement in Table
9.2.4Continue
17-63 GTG FatWGUse of Box-Cox Transformation in the
Fitting of Fatigue DataContinue Slides will be included in the minutes
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18-05 GTG MATSSG Data Quantities for Large Gage Ranges Continue MATSSG discussed this and it requires additional work.
18-06 GTG-F FTGRevision of Figure 9.3.4.4 Failure Codes
for Fasteners
Closed w no
Action
18-08 MTG
718 Investment Cast (AMS5383) Addition
of Tensile A/B-basis and Elevated
Temperature
ContinueWill incorporate feedback and propose new table at the
next meeting.
18-09 GTG PSG Update Creep Guidance in Chapter 1Approved and
Closed
18-10 GTG Data Requirements for Forgings Continue On hold.
18-13 GTGGuidelines for Exclusion of Low Secondary
Property Test ValuesContinue On hold pending resolution of item 15-36.
18-14 MTG
Addition of A206.0-T4 and T71 Sand
Casting Physical Properties, and Fatigue
Analyses
60 Day
Approval
Stress-strain curves will be approved after 60 days. Open a
new Item 19-45 to continue fatigue analysis.
18-18 MTGUpdate AMS-QQ-A-250/4 in Table
8.2.2.1.2(a) (MMPDS-13)
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Table approved with editiorial changes.
18-21 MTGUpgrade S-basis to A/B-basis for 2219-
T852 Aluminum Alloy Hand ForgingsContinue
Primary supplier will send correct file. Chose to disregard
prepared agenda item. Analysis will be redone with new
data package.
18-22 MTGLegacy Confirmation and Upgrade to A-
and B-basis for 7075-T76511 Extrusion
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
For some of the derived properties, change to S basis for 1-
2in thickness ranges due to small number of samples.
Kaiser and Universal Alloys volunteered to send material
and data to AFRL for testing. Goal is to get 20 tests in
thicker thickness range (2.5-3in).
18-28 GTGUsing the Logarithm Transformation with
MIDAS Analysis of Minimum PropertiesContinue
Status item. Slides will be in circulated in the minutes for
review.
19-03 GTG-F FTG Revision of Sunset Clause
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
FTG: Approved with changes. Opened Item 19-36 to make
additional revisions and Item 19-37, and -39 to revisit
tables that have already been removed from Chapter 8.
19-03 GTG-F Revision of Sunset Clause
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
GTG: Approved with changes. Open a new item to address
when a table that cannot be confirmed would be
removed vs. just watermarked or footnoted.
19-04 GTG ETTG Considerations for Certifying an AM Part ContinueStatus item. Slides will be in circulated in the minutes for
review.
19-05 GTGSecondary Properties Requirement When
Expanding Thickness Range in a TableContinue
Further discussion needed.
ASG consensus (high percent) want to keep the A/B in the
new thickness ranges even if secondary properties data
are not provided. Add guidance to Chapter 1.
19-08 GTG One-Sample Acceptance Testing Method60 Day
Approval
Will circulate version with editiorial changes for review
and approval.
19-10 MTGSecondary Properties for 718 Bar per AMS
5662 and AMS 5663 Continue Data are needed.
19-13a MTGMechanical and Physical Properties of
2043-T85 Aluminum Alloy Extrusions
Approved and
ClosedApproved with editorial change to fix L45LT formatting.
19-13b MTGMechanical and Physical Properties of
2043-T85 Aluminum Alloy Extrusions
60 Day
Approval
Stress-strain curves moved to 60 day approval. Relevant
Bron evaluation and buckling notes will be added.
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19-14 GTG Clarification of Off-Axis Orientation
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Proposed sections will be updated with agreed upon
changes .
19-17 GTG ETTGMinimum Content Requirements for
Public Specifications - Volume IIContinue
Draft will be circulated to AMS AM and ASTM for
feedback. Create a new item for AM SDO coordination.
19-18 MTGAddition of Stress-Strain Curves &
Physical Properties for 7097-T7651 Plate
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Stress-strain curves and physical properties approved the
content of the Handout with minor editorial changes.
19-19 GTG FatWGConsideration of a new Equivalent Stress
model for Load-Controlled FatigueContinue
19-20 GTG ETTG Data Requirements for Volume II Continue
Item will be continued. The data generation and analysis
subteam will review and prepare an item for the next
meeting.
19-21 MTGDetermine Buckling Notes for Existing
Figures With Dual-Shape ParametersContinue No effort at this time.
19-22 GTGDevelop a Heat-Normalized Approach for
Strength vs. Temperature Analysis
Approved and
Closed
19-23 GTGISG &
GSGReview and Revise MMPDS Bylaws
Approved and
Closed
Bylaws will be revised as proposed and posted on the
MMPDS.org website
19-24 GTGGuidelines for Identification of
Punch/Blanking Shear Properties
Approved and
ClosedSections will be revised as shown.
19-25 GTGGuidelines for Derived Properties for
Legacy AlloysContinue Will be circulated to MATSSG and ASG for discussion.
19-26 GTG ETTGDefinitions for Process Intensive Materials
& Technologies - Volume II
Approved w
Changes and
Closed
Remove definitions of Feedstock Heat and Feedstock Lot.
The <alternate> definition was adopted for xxxx.
Remaining definitions approved with changes.
19-27 MTGStabilization of AMS-S-6758 for 4130 Steel
Bars
Approved and
Closed
19-28 GTG
Secondary Properties - Disposition of
Legacy values and Publication of New
Alloys
60 Day
Approval
The policy documented with changes as discussed will be
sent out for 60-day approval in the minutes. This policy
will be used until 15-36 is resolved. The Handbook will not
be changed but the policy will be shared in the interim.
19-29 GTGAddition of Term Definition for Lower Tail
Censoring (Section 9.5.4.10)
Approved and
Closed
19-30 MTGCorrection to Creep Stress Parameters for
L-605 and Haynes 282 Alloys
Approved and
Closed
19-31 MTGUpdate of SCC and Modulus for 2014-
T651 Aluminum Alloy Plate
Approved and
ClosedMTG decided that Ec should not be changed.
19-32 MTG
Stress corrosion cracking of 7xxx
aluminum alloys in high humidity
environments: testing methods and
propagation mechanisms
Closed w no
Action
Presentation was given by Constellium. Approved version
will be circulated in the minutes.
19-33 MTGUpgrade Bearing Strength from S- to A-/B-
Basis 7075-T6 Bare SheetContinue Agenda item will be prepared for the next meeting.
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Final Initial34th Meeting MinutesTitle Action
Item
No
Responsible
19-NIN ETTGCMH-17/MMPDS Coordination &
CollaborationContinue
Industry rejected the idea for co-located meeting. The ISG
had already approved the western US meeting locations.
One day is not enough to discuss important topics.
MMPDS and CMH-17 will have separate meeting for a
collaboration. Related activity will be tracked under item
19-38, Process Intensive Materials & Technologies SDO
Coordination.
19-34 GTGWaive Requirement for Bearing and/or
Shear Properties When AppropriateContinue No effort on this item.
19-35 GTG-F FTGRe-Evaluate R-Squared Acceptance
Requirment for Joint AllowablesContinue
FTG will continue discussion on this item. Battelle will
review Fastener data versus the R2 = 0.90 guideline.
19-36 FTGUpdate Section 9.2.4.7 Fastener Strength
Table Sunset ClauseNew
Open new item for additional revisions related to item 19-
03
19-37 GTG FTGEstablish a Guideline for Reinserting
Chapter 8 Tables. New
Clear guidance is need, a priori, to establish the success
criterion for reinserting a table.
19-38 ETTGProcess Intensive Materials &
Technologies SDO CoordinationContinue
This new item was created with similar intent as 11-05 and
13-50 for AMS and ASTM coordination, respectively.
19-39 FTGReview Chapter 8 Tables Removed by the
Sunset ClauseNew
A list of Chapter 8 tables removed will be circulated for
prioritization. High priority tables will be reviewed per
guidelines established in Item 19-37.
19-40 GTG Review Section 9.4 Substantiation of Data NewClarify Guidelines for review of Legacy Alloys, Fasteners,
Tables, Information only, Upgrading entries from S to A/B.
19-41 MTGConfirmation of Design Properties of AMS
4911 for Ti-6Al-4V Sheet and PlateNew
From Item 03-14. Need to get full thickness range of plate,
not subset. Skull melt recently added to spec.
19-42 MTG
Confirmation of Design Properties of AMS
4202 for 7475-T7251 Aluminum Alloy
Plate
New From Item 03-14. Data from 2 suppliers.
19-43 MTG
Upgrade of Design Properties of AMS
4154 for 7075-T6511 Aluminum Alloy
Extrusion
NewFrom Item 10-14. J. Scheuring (Kaiser Aluminum) has
more recent data he can send.
19-44 MTGUpdate Stress-Strain Figures to Report
Bron Method RelevanceNew
19-45 MTGAddition of A206.0-T4 and T71 Sand
Casting Fatigue AnalysesNew
New Item to complete the fatigue analysis (load- and
strain-control).
19-46 FTG Review Table 8.1.2(a) New
The table identifies new rivets as being T4 and T3 after
installation. Confirm that the table is appropriately
labeled.
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