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Manor House SchoolManor House School
Leaving CertificateLeaving Certificate
Subject Choice Advisory meetingSubject Choice Advisory meeting
March 2014 March 2014
Ms. K. GaughanMs. K. Gaughan
Ms. A. RobinsonMs. A. Robinson
Importance of Careful Subject Importance of Careful Subject ChoiceChoice
Subjects chosen for Leaving Certificate Subjects chosen for Leaving Certificate should be ones that students like, need for should be ones that students like, need for their future and are likely to succeed at.their future and are likely to succeed at.
They must take college entry requirements They must take college entry requirements and specific subject requirements for some and specific subject requirements for some courses into account when making choicescourses into account when making choices
Application to Third Level Application to Third Level CollegesColleges
CAO – Central Application OfficeCAO – Central Application Office CAO Application to Universities/ Institutes of CAO Application to Universities/ Institutes of
Technology/ some Private CollegesTechnology/ some Private Colleges ONE application form – 48 CollegesONE application form – 48 Colleges
1200 courses1200 courses Best Best sixsix subjects in any sitting of one subjects in any sitting of one
Leaving Cert examinationLeaving Cert examination
www.cao.iewww.cao.ie
College Entry RequirementsCollege Entry Requirements
Minimum 2 honours and 4 passes to do an Minimum 2 honours and 4 passes to do an Honours degree (TCD requires three Honours degree (TCD requires three honours and three passes)honours and three passes)
Min 5 passes for an Ordinary Level DegreeMin 5 passes for an Ordinary Level Degree Specific Subject Requirements Specific Subject Requirements Points Points Min 5 passes to enter most PLC coursesMin 5 passes to enter most PLC courses
Language Entry Language Entry Requirements Requirements for Third Levelfor Third Level
English ,Irish and a European language are requirements English ,Irish and a European language are requirements for entry to the National University of Ireland (NUI) with its for entry to the National University of Ireland (NUI) with its colleges of UCD, UCC, NUI Galway and Maynooth.colleges of UCD, UCC, NUI Galway and Maynooth.
For most courses in these colleges you must have Leaving For most courses in these colleges you must have Leaving Cert Irish – not foundation levelCert Irish – not foundation level
The main exceptions are The main exceptions are (a) NCAD which will accept Art instead of a language (a) NCAD which will accept Art instead of a language (b) Engineering and (b) Engineering and somesome Science courses in NUI Maynooth and Science courses in NUI Maynooth and
UCDUCD (c) Nursing in UCD which will accept English and one other language (c) Nursing in UCD which will accept English and one other language
Language Entry Requirements Language Entry Requirements for Third Levelfor Third Level
A Higher C in Irish is required to train as a A Higher C in Irish is required to train as a Primary School Teacher in Ireland (Other Primary School Teacher in Ireland (Other routes available)routes available)
Almost all Universities, Colleges and Almost all Universities, Colleges and Employers specify a pass in Ordinary Level Employers specify a pass in Ordinary Level English. Individual courses may have higher English. Individual courses may have higher requirementsrequirements
Language Entry Requirements Language Entry Requirements for Third Levelfor Third Level
Irish or English plus a European Language Irish or English plus a European Language is required for Cadetships in the Army, Air is required for Cadetships in the Army, Air Corps and Naval ServiceCorps and Naval Service
For the Gardai - English and one other For the Gardai - English and one other languagelanguage
A pass in one language is required for entry A pass in one language is required for entry to the Institutes of Technologyto the Institutes of Technology
Language Entry Requirements Language Entry Requirements for Third Levelfor Third Level
Any Any TwoTwo languages from English, Irish, languages from English, Irish, European language- are required for entry European language- are required for entry to Trinity College and Dublin City University to Trinity College and Dublin City University
Specific courses in these colleges may have Specific courses in these colleges may have additional language requirementsadditional language requirements
Science Entry Requirements Science Entry Requirements forfor
Third Level coursesThird Level courses
Students aspiring to any third level course Students aspiring to any third level course of study in of study in Engineering/Medical/Paramedical/Science/ Engineering/Medical/Paramedical/Science/ Technical areas at University need to have Technical areas at University need to have at at least oneleast one of of Biology/Physics/Chemistry/Ag. ScienceBiology/Physics/Chemistry/Ag. Science
Science Entry Requirements Science Entry Requirements forfor
Third Level coursesThird Level coursesSome courses specify a particular Science Some courses specify a particular Science subject or two Science subjects, so check subject or two Science subjects, so check college and course requirements carefullycollege and course requirements carefully
- the following are examples of Science - the following are examples of Science requirements requirements
Science Entry Requirements Science Entry Requirements forfor
Third Level coursesThird Level courses
A Science subject is required for Nursing – A Science subject is required for Nursing – preferably Biology preferably Biology
A pass in one Science subject is required to study A pass in one Science subject is required to study Science in UCC, UCD, NUIG, NUI Maynooth, DIT Science in UCC, UCD, NUIG, NUI Maynooth, DIT and DCUand DCU
A Higher C in Chemistry is required for entry to A Higher C in Chemistry is required for entry to Veterinary Medicine in UCD , Pharmacy in Trinity Veterinary Medicine in UCD , Pharmacy in Trinity and Human Nutrition and Dietetics in DITand Human Nutrition and Dietetics in DIT
Geography – Geography – ONLYONLY accepted as a Science accepted as a Science subject for SCIENCE degree in TCD and UCDsubject for SCIENCE degree in TCD and UCD
Science Entry Requirements Science Entry Requirements forfor
Third Level coursesThird Level courses TwTwo Science subjects are required for entry o Science subjects are required for entry
to most science based courses in Trinity e.g. to most science based courses in Trinity e.g. Physiotherapy, Pharmacy, Medicine, Science. Physiotherapy, Pharmacy, Medicine, Science. Some courses require higher B’s and C’s so Some courses require higher B’s and C’s so check carefullycheck carefully
**BEWARE** **BEWARE** TCD does TCD does NOTNOT accept accept combination on BIOLOGY and AG. Science combination on BIOLOGY and AG. Science as two separate Science subjects.as two separate Science subjects.
Maths Entry RequirementsMaths Entry Requirements
Maths is a basic entry requirement for many Maths is a basic entry requirement for many coursescourses
A pass in Foundation Maths is accepted by A pass in Foundation Maths is accepted by many colleges many colleges if there is no Maths content in if there is no Maths content in the course of Study the course of Study
Some courses do not require any Some courses do not require any Maths(Law/ Arts/ Social Science/ Art)Maths(Law/ Arts/ Social Science/ Art)
Subjects for Senior CycleSubjects for Senior Cycle
CompulsoryCompulsory EnglishEnglish IrishIrish MathsMaths European LanguageEuropean Language
Subject Choice for Senior CycleSubject Choice for Senior Cycle
Students choose three additional subjects Students choose three additional subjects from the following optionsfrom the following options
Subject Choice for Senior CycleSubject Choice for Senior CycleOptional subjectsOptional subjects
French, Spanish, German,French, Spanish, German,
Economics, Accounting, Business, Economics, Accounting, Business,
Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Ag. Science,Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Ag. Science,
Applied MathsApplied Maths
ArtArt
MusicMusic
Home Economics, Home Economics,
Geography, HistoryGeography, History
Restrictions on Subject Choice for Restrictions on Subject Choice for Senior cycleSenior cycle
If students have not done Science for If students have not done Science for Junior Cert they should not choose Junior Cert they should not choose Chemistry or PhysicsChemistry or Physics
Students must have done Biology and Students must have done Biology and Chemistry in Transition year if they wish to Chemistry in Transition year if they wish to take these subjects for Leaving Certificate. take these subjects for Leaving Certificate.
Restrictions on Subject Choice for Restrictions on Subject Choice for Senior Cycle Senior Cycle
Students may not start a new European Students may not start a new European language in fifth year – they continue with language in fifth year – they continue with the language they did for Junior Cert and the language they did for Junior Cert and TYTY
Students should only choose Applied Maths Students should only choose Applied Maths if they are very good at Maths (Honours if they are very good at Maths (Honours student)student)
Restrictions on subject Choice Restrictions on subject Choice
If students have not done Business Studies If students have not done Business Studies for Junior Cert they should not choose for Junior Cert they should not choose Economics or Accounting without consulting Economics or Accounting without consulting Mr. Forrestal/Mr.Whelan Mr. Forrestal/Mr.Whelan
Restrictions on Subject Choice for Restrictions on Subject Choice for Senior CycleSenior Cycle
If students did not sample a subject in If students did not sample a subject in Transition Year and did not do the subject Transition Year and did not do the subject for Junior Cert they will not be able to take it for Junior Cert they will not be able to take it up for Leaving Certificateup for Leaving Certificate
What careers/courses are you What careers/courses are you interested in pursuing?interested in pursuing?
Fields of StudyFields of Study BusinessBusiness
LawLaw Engineering/ScienceEngineering/Science
Useful choicesUseful choices Accounting/Business/Accounting/Business/
EconomicsEconomics HistoryHistory Science –Physics, Science –Physics,
Chemistry, Biology, Chemistry, Biology, applied Mathsapplied Maths
What careers/courses are you What careers/courses are you interested in pursuing?interested in pursuing?
Fields of StudyFields of Study
Leisure/EntertainmentLeisure/Entertainment Medical/ParaMedical/Para Travel/TourismTravel/Tourism Social ScienceSocial Science
Useful choicesUseful choices
Biology/GeographyBiology/Geography Science subjectsScience subjects Languages/Business/Languages/Business/ Home Ec / GeographyHome Ec / Geography
How to choose subjectsHow to choose subjects
All students are familiar with the range of subjects All students are familiar with the range of subjects availableavailable
They have been advised to check DATs They have been advised to check DATs results(Differential Aptitude Tests) results(Differential Aptitude Tests)
Look up previous reports and tests from various Look up previous reports and tests from various subjects to confirm what students are good atsubjects to confirm what students are good at
Have a look at the senior cycle textbooks in Have a look at the senior cycle textbooks in various subjects.various subjects.
Subject Choice for Senior Cycle Subject Choice for Senior Cycle
Students should choose subjects whichStudents should choose subjects which They have achieved well in so farThey have achieved well in so far Are interested inAre interested in LikeLike Are prepared to work atAre prepared to work at Need for their future – for college ,for work, Need for their future – for college ,for work,
for lifefor life
How to choose subjectsHow to choose subjects
Link talents to subjectsLink talents to subjects Talk to teachersTalk to teachers Unsure? Unsure? -Choose a good mix of subjects to keep your -Choose a good mix of subjects to keep your
college and career options opencollege and career options open One One BusinessBusiness subject, one subject, one Science Science subject subject
and and one other one other will cover most options will cover most options
Subject Choice for Senior Cycle Subject Choice for Senior Cycle
You DO NOT choose based on the belief You DO NOT choose based on the belief that it is an easy subject, that your friends that it is an easy subject, that your friends are doing it or that it will be a ‘doss’.are doing it or that it will be a ‘doss’.
Further ResearchFurther Research
www.qualifax.ie . www.qualifax.ie . -From the student home page click on link -From the student home page click on link Students/Support and Students/Support and
Advice/Subject ChoiceAdvice/Subject Choice..
www.careersportal.ie – advice on subject – advice on subject choicechoice
www.cao.iewww.cao.ie www.examinations.iewww.examinations.ie College Websites. College Websites. ((www.ucd.ie)(www.tcd.ie) (www.dcu.ie)...... (www.dcu.ie)......
Additional optional subjectAdditional optional subject
Depending on the academic subjects Depending on the academic subjects chosen, students will also have the option to chosen, students will also have the option to apply to participate in the Leaving Certificate apply to participate in the Leaving Certificate Vocational Programme - Vocational Programme - LCVPLCVP
Students who choose this programme do Students who choose this programme do the standard 7 Leaving Certificate subjects the standard 7 Leaving Certificate subjects PLUS two link modules – PLUS two link modules – Preparation for Preparation for the World of Workthe World of Work and and Enterprise Enterprise EducationEducation
LCVPLCVP
Further details available onFurther details available on
www.lcvp.slss.iewww.lcvp.slss.ie
LCVP Subject GroupingsLCVP Subject Groupings Home Economics and Ag Science or BiologyHome Economics and Ag Science or Biology Home Economics and ArtHome Economics and Art Accounting or Business or Economics (any two)Accounting or Business or Economics (any two) Physics and ChemistryPhysics and Chemistry Biology and Chemistry or Physics or Physics/ChemistryBiology and Chemistry or Physics or Physics/Chemistry Engineering and Business or Accounting or Economics Engineering and Business or Accounting or Economics Construction Studies and Business or Accounting or EconomicsConstruction Studies and Business or Accounting or Economics Home Economics and Business or Accounting or EconomicsHome Economics and Business or Accounting or Economics Agricultural Science and Business or Accounting or EconomicsAgricultural Science and Business or Accounting or Economics Agricultural Science and Chemistry or PhysicsAgricultural Science and Chemistry or Physics Art and Business or Accounting or EconomicsArt and Business or Accounting or Economics Music and Business or Accounting or EconomicsMusic and Business or Accounting or Economics Construction Studies or Engineering or Technical Drawing(any two)Construction Studies or Engineering or Technical Drawing(any two) Physics and Construction Studies or EngineeringPhysics and Construction Studies or Engineering Agricultural Science and Construction Studies or EngineeringAgricultural Science and Construction Studies or Engineering
Procedure for choosing SubjectsProcedure for choosing Subjects
Students will be asked to list the subjects they Students will be asked to list the subjects they would like in order of preference numbered I to would like in order of preference numbered I to 7(Their language will be No. 1)7(Their language will be No. 1)
4 subject bands will be formed based on 4 subject bands will be formed based on Resources and Students preferences Resources and Students preferences
Students may be asked to choose one subject Students may be asked to choose one subject from each bandfrom each band
Procedure for choosing SubjectsProcedure for choosing Subjects
Limited resources and numbers applying for Limited resources and numbers applying for subjects may mean some students will be subjects may mean some students will be disappointed with the subjects available to disappointed with the subjects available to themthem
Every effort is made to make sure as many Every effort is made to make sure as many students as possible get their top choicesstudents as possible get their top choices
Demonstration of websitesDemonstration of websites
www.qualifax.ie
www.careersportal.ie
www.cao.ie
College websites– College websites– ( www.ucd.ie /www.tcd.ie /www.dcu.ie/ ( www.ucd.ie /www.tcd.ie /www.dcu.ie/ www.dit.ie etc) etc)
GOOD LUCK !GOOD LUCK !