Lee Kuan Yew on equality in Singapore

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Parliament No: 11 Session No: 2 Volume No: 86 Sitting No: 9 Sitting Date: 19-08-2009 Section Name: MOTIONS Title: NATION BUILDING TENETS http://sprs.parl.gov.sg/search/topic.jsp?currentTopicID=00073711- ZZ&currentPubID=00075281-ZZ&topicKey=00075281-ZZ.00073711- ZZ_1%2B%2B Mr Speaker, Sir, I embrace the National Pledge. I believe in the whole of the National Pledge. If Mr S. Rajaratnam were here, I will tell him that I and my Party thank him for crafting such an excellent legal document. I think we should look at the Pledge as a whole and not as a contract word for word, and try to argue on the words. The whole thing is a great ideal. I think we can accept this as the foundation stone for nation-building for Singapore. Sir, you see the importance of unity. Mr Rajaratnam did not say "united people", he said "one united people". For the people to unite, there must be justice and equality, and I think these words are very meaningful and very important to Singapore – "united people". But we cannot have united people if the Government discriminates against certain sections of the people. In a democratic country or society, we believe in free thought. We should be allowed to think as we like, whether we like the Opposition or the ruling party. But as it is, there is great discrimination from the first day I entered politics until today. At first, it was worse. The ruling party threatened that anybody who supported the Opposition would get the facilities last. So if you stayed in a HDB flat, and if the lift gets spoiled and you get caught in it, you will be the last to be rescued, which is quite a frightening threat actually. I think the people should take it with a pinch of salt but, sometimes, such a threat can be quite frightening. With regard to transport, the MRT Station is built ready for use but the train shall not stop at the Opposition ward. Sir, I can remember those days very clearly. Fortunately, for us, the train did stop at Potong Pasir. Believe it or not, I wanted to plant one tree, and it was refused. I had told the story many times but I think it is worthwhile telling once more. In those days, the PAP was generous enough to give me a walled-up empty office space at the void deck. The public got to know about it. The owner of a flower nursery donated one exotic plant to me, and I believed he also gave one each to Mr Goh Chok Tong and Dr Tony Tan. Of course, I straightaway told him that I would be planting it in the constituency itself, and not take home to plant it. Like a dutiful MP, I wrote to the Minister, I said, "Can I plant one tree in my constituency?" He said, "No. The planting of trees in the constituency has been mapped out by the Parks and Trees Division." So I wrote to the Parks and Trees Division, "Can you please give me a map of the planting?" And they said they do not have such a plan. So I wrote to the Minister and I said they did not have such a plan. And their reply was through the HDB which said, "You cannot plant a tree there because the soil does not suit that plant." I do not know how he said it was the soil. Did he make a test of the soil? Anyway, I stopped linking with him and I planted the tree in any event. Believe it or not, that same night, some hooligans came and pulled the tree out with the roots still intact and threw it in front of the office. I was really surprised. It was a good tree, and the Chinese name is supposed to be the "seven sisters" tree because they have fruits like gingko nuts. I suppose there are seven of them in a bunch. That was the treatment I got but we still persisted. I planted it in a big pot and it started to fruit, and somebody must have thrown a bottle of bleach into the

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Parliament debate on national tenets; 19 Aug 2009

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Parliament No: 11 Session No: 2 Volume No: 86 Sitting No: 9 Sitting Date: 19-08-2009 Section Name: MOTIONS Title: NATION BUILDING TENETS

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Mr Speaker, Sir, I embrace the National Pledge. I believe in the whole of the National Pledge. If Mr S. Rajaratnam were here, I will tell him that I and my Party thank him for crafting such an excellent legal document. I think we should look at the Pledge as a whole and not as a contract word for word, and try to argue on the words. The whole thing is a great ideal. I think we can accept this as the foundation stone for nation-building for Singapore.

Sir, you see the importance of unity. Mr Rajaratnam did not say "united people", he said "one united people". For the people to unite, there must be justice and equality, and I think these words are very meaningful and very important to Singapore – "united people". But we cannot have united people if the Government discriminates against certain sections of the people. In a democratic country or society, we believe in free thought. We should be allowed to think as we like, whether we like the Opposition or the ruling party. But as it is, there is great discrimination from the first day I entered politics until today. At first, it was worse. The ruling party threatened that anybody who supported the Opposition would get the facilities last. So if you stayed in a HDB flat, and if the lift gets spoiled and you get caught in it, you will be the last to be rescued, which is quite a frightening threat actually. I think the people should take it with a pinch of salt but, sometimes, such a threat can be quite frightening.

With regard to transport, the MRT Station is built ready for use but the train shall not stop at the Opposition ward. Sir, I can remember those days very clearly. Fortunately, for us, the train did stop at Potong Pasir. Believe it or not, I wanted to plant one tree, and it was refused. I had told the story many times but I think it is worthwhile telling once more. In those days, the PAP was generous enough to give me a walled-up empty office space at the void deck. The public got to know about it. The owner of a flower nursery donated one exotic plant to me, and I believed he also gave one each to Mr Goh Chok Tong and Dr Tony Tan. Of course, I straightaway told him that I would be planting it in the constituency itself, and not take home to plant it. Like a dutiful MP, I wrote to the Minister, I said, "Can I plant one tree in my constituency?" He said, "No. The planting of trees in the constituency has been mapped out by the Parks and Trees Division." So I wrote to the Parks and Trees Division, "Can you please give me a map of the planting?" And they said they do not have such a plan. So I wrote to the Minister and I said they did not have such a plan. And their reply was through the HDB which said, "You cannot plant a tree there because the soil does not suit that plant." I do not know how he said it was the soil. Did he make a test of the soil? Anyway, I stopped linking with him and I planted the tree in any event. Believe it or not, that same night, some hooligans came and pulled the tree out with the roots still intact and threw it in front of the office. I was really surprised. It was a good tree, and the Chinese name is supposed to be the "seven sisters" tree because they have fruits like gingko nuts. I suppose there are seven of them in a bunch. That was the treatment I got but we still persisted. I planted it in a big pot and it started to fruit, and somebody must have thrown a bottle of bleach into the

pot and, sad to say, the tree of course wilted. I should have taken it home to plant it. Anyway, that is the story of the tree.

Sir, how can we have unity in our people if the Government behaves in such a way? Nowadays, of course, I think the Ministers are more enlightened. They do not behave like the Ministers before. The Minister's name was Mr Teh Cheang Wan, in case Members do not know. But he is not living now. He is dead. If we want to have unity, I think the Ministers should be more enlightened and do not behave like Mr Teh.

Sir, justice and equality, these are the values that we should adhere to. If you want to have unity, you must have justice and equality. I have one brother older than me. Believe it or not, we never quarrelled and we never had a fight in the house. I know why now – it is because our parents were equal and just. Whenever they bought a shirt for my elder brother during the New Year, they would buy one for me. If they bought a pair of shoes for him, they would buy one for me. So we always had equal treatment.

If the Government does not take it too seriously about the Opposition, treats them fairly, I think they may get Potong Pasir back. A bit of equality would do a lot of good. Sir, we should look at this Pledge as a whole, not word for word. "One united people, build a democratic society based on justice and equality, to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress". Sir, these are the key words. The American Constitution also said they want to acquire happiness. That is a very elusive thing.

But I think we can achieve it with this Pledge. I think if Singapore builds on the foundation of this Pledge, it would not go wrong.

Sir, I had not intended to intervene in any debate. But I was doing physiotherapy just now and reading the newspapers and I thought I should bring the House back to earth.

Mr Rajaratnam had great virtues in the midst of despondency after a series of race riots when we were thrown out during Independence. And our Malays in Singapore were apprehensive that now that we were the majority, we would in turn treat them the way a Malay majority treated us. He drafted these words and rose above the present. He was a great idealist. It came to me; I trimmed out the unachievable and the Pledge, as it stands, is his work after I have trimmed it. What is it an ideology? No, it is an aspiration. Will we achieve it? I do not know. We will have to keep on trying. Are we a nation? In transition.

I want to move an amendment to this amendment that "acknowledges the progress that Singapore has made in the 50 years since it attained self-government in 1959, in nation building and achieving the aspirations and tenets ..." These were aspirations. This was not an ideology.

Can I have a copy of the amendment? [A copy of the amendment was handed over to Mr Speaker.] Thank you. Everything seems to be in order. Minister Mentor, carry on.

: Sir, reference was made to the Constitution. The Constitution of Singapore enjoins us to specially look after the position of the Malays and other minorities. It comes under Articles 152 and 153. I will read it:

"Minorities and Special Position of Malays. It shall be the responsibility of the Government constantly to care for the interests of the racial and religious minorities in Singapore. The

Government shall exercise its functions in such a manner as to recognise the special position of the Malays who are the indigenous people of Singapore and, accordingly, it should be the responsibility of the Government to protect, safeguard, support, foster, promote their political, educational, religious, economic, social and cultural interests of the Malay language."

And on Muslim religion, Article 153:

"The Legislature shall by law make provision for regulating Muslim religious affairs and for constituting a council to advise the President in matters of the Muslim religion."

We explicitly state in our Constitution a duty on behalf of the Government not to treat everybody as equal. It is not reality, it is not practical, it will lead to grave and irreparable damage if we work on that principle. So this was an aspiration.

As Malays have progressed and a number have joined the middle class with university degrees and professional qualifications, we have asked Mendaki to agree not to have their special rights of free education at university but to take what they were entitled to; put those fees to help more disadvantaged Malays. So, we are trying to reach a position where there is a level playing field for everybody which is going to take decades, if not centuries, and we may never get there.

Now let me read the American Constitution. In its Declaration of Independence on 4th July 1776, adopted in Congress, the Declaration read, in the second paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, and among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. To secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

The Constitution, passed a few years later, says:

"We the people of the United States [this is the preamble], in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Nowhere does it say that the blacks would be differently treated. But the blacks did not get the vote until the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s with Martin Luther King and his famous speech "We Dare to Dream". An enormous riot took place and eventually President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act, and it took many more decades before the southern states, which kept the blacks in their position, allowed the registration of black voters and subsequently even after that, to allow black students to go into white schools. It was 200 years before an exceptional half-black American became President.

So, my colleague has put it: trying to put square pegs into round holes. Will we ever make the pegs the same? No. You suggest to the Malays that we should abolish these provisions in the Constitution and you will have grave disquiet. So we start on the basis that this is reality. We will not be able to get a Chinese Minister or an Indian Minister to persuade Malay parents to look after their daughters more carefully and not have teenage pregnancies which lead to failed marriages; subsequent marriages also fail, and delinquents. Can a Chinese MP or an Indian MP do that? They will say: "You are interfering

in my private life." But we have funded Mendaki and MUIS, and they have a committee to try and reduce the number of such unhappy outcomes.

The way that Singapore has made progress is by a realistic step-by-step forward approach. It may take us centuries before we get to a similar position as the Americans. They go to wars – the blacks and the whites. In the First World War, they did not carry arms, they carried the ammo, they were not given the honour to fight. In the Second World War, they went back, they were ex-GIs – those who could make it to university were given the GI grants – but they went back to their black ghettos (in 1945) and they stayed there. And today there are still black ghettos.

These are realities. The American Constitution does not say that it will treat blacks differently but our Constitution spells out the duty of the Government to treat Malays and other minorities with extra care.

So the basis on which the Nominated Member has placed his arguments is false and flawed. It is completely untrue. It has got no basis whatsoever. And I thought to myself, perhaps I should bring this House back to earth and remind everybody what is our starting point, what is our base, and if we do not recognise where we started from, and that these are our foundations, we will fail.

Nobody can speak – I would not say authority – with the knowledge that I have because I knew the circumstances in which the Pledge was made. I admire the sentiments of Mr Rajaratnam. At that moment in 1965, my worry was, what would the Malays in Singapore do, now that they knew they were a minority, and that we would wreck havoc with them as we were made to suffer when we were a minority. When I returned on the 9th of August, on the advice of our Special Branch, I did not go back to my house. I stayed at Sri Temasek, which was my official residence. I stayed there for one week, then I went to Changi Cottage and stayed there for two months to make sure that everything subsided.

These are realities. Today, 44 years later, we have a Malay community, I believe, at peace, convinced that we are not discriminating against them, convinced that we are including them in our society.

Our Member works in SINDA. I am told he has been there for 10 years. He will know Indians are not equal. There are those Brahmins; they will not be in SINDA. It is the non-Brahmins who are in SINDA. So I think it is dangerous to allow such highfalutin ideas to go undemolished and mislead Singapore. We are here today, we have this building, we have all these facilities. All around us is evidence of our accountability. Without being accountable, we would not have been re-elected and there would be no Singapore of today.