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Konstantin Pozdniakov,INALCO, IUF, LLACAN
Looking for proper names in the Rapanui script
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Peter the Great Museum (Kunstkamera),
St. Petersburg
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Boris Kudriavtsev: a discovery of parallel texts
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Dmitrij Olderogge
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Yuri Knorozov
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Irina Fedorova
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Hunting for personal names
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« Genealogy » by KnorozovGv6
In the history of the Rongorongo studies, the most known attempt to find proper names was that by Yurij Knorozov and Nicolai Butinov, who suggested that a short fragment of the text Gv is a genealogy.This fragment has a very unusual structure: it consists of short groups where the second sign of every group is repeated as the first sign of the next group: AB – BC – CD – DE – EF.
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« Genealogy » by Knorozov
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When he successfully deciphered the Rongorongo script of Easter Island Steven Roger Fischer gained a unique place in the pantheon of glyphbreakers. He is the only person who has ever deciphered not one but two ancient scripts. Fischer's previous decipherment, of a Cretan artifact called the Phaistos Disk, provided the key to the ancient Minoan language and showed it to be closely related to Mycenaean Greek.
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Atua Mata Riri
A creation chant collected by Thomson in 1886 is supposed to give a list of gods.This chant was obtained from old Ure-vai-ko, who recited it as the text of a tablet. A translation made by Salmon is equally free., as he assumed that the procreators were all gods whose names were meaningless, and thus misunderstood the true nature of the chant. The text given here is based on Thomson's and corrected by natives, but many verses are not intelligible.
1.God-of-the-angry-look by copulating with Roundness (?) produced the poporo (Solanum nigrum).2.Himahima-marao by copulating with Lichen-growing-on-the-soil produced the lichen.3.Oevai (?) by copulating with Fern produced the fern.4.The Parent-mother by copulating with Pipiri-hai-tau produced wood.5.Dryness by copulating with Humu-toti (Tattooing-of-the-leg) produced the paper mulberry.6.Ti by copulating with Ta [Tattooing] produced the ti.7.Elevation (?) by copulating with Highness produced the inland-grass.
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We cannot accept the deciphering of the “genealogical myth” suggested by S. Fischer, but everybody agrees that the famous Santiago staff analysed by Fischer does have a very special structure being divided into groups of three graphemes each.
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4 + 2: 2 + 4:
2 + 2 + 2:
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X and Y produced many twins:
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Important common feature – the sign76
Text Gv:
sign 76 in the last grapheme
« rising » direction: son > father
Text I:
sign 76 in the first grapheme
« Descending » direction: father > son
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• More than 550 generations ???
• More than 11000 years ???
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Igor Pozdniakov (1.06.1927 – 16.1.2010)
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N N N NINTERVAL Language L Names Writing W Names
1 ro-ro 45 109 131 1542 ro-ngo-ro-ngo 125 264 253 252
20 ro (19 syllables) ro 94 140 152 176TOTAL 264 513 536 582
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norm = 33% % % % %
INTERVAL Language L Names Writing W Names
1 17 21 24 262 47 51 47 43
20 36 27 28 30TOTAL 100 100 100 100
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POZDNIAKOV, K. and G. SEGERER. Similar Place Avoidance: A Statistical Universal. Linguistic Typology. 2007. Vol. 11(2), p. 307-348.
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norm = 33% % % % %
INTERVAL Language L Names Writing W Names
1 17 21 24 262 47 51 47 43
20 36 27 28 30TOTAL 100 100 100 100
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Fermin Moscoso del Prado. The universal “shape” of human languages: spectral analysis beyond speech // Nature Precedingshttp://precedings.nature.com/documents/6097/version/1
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Another candidats for proper naming
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• one of the most perspective strategies of deciphering is looking for all unusual signs that seem to have no phonetic reading.
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Many fragments of the Rapanui script have a very special structure: the text is divided into short segments separated by delimiters.
A delimiter is a regularly occurring sign (like sign 76 in the Santiago Staff) or a combination of two or three signs
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Ev Ev
Na Na
Gr Gr
Kr
Kv
Ca Ca Ca
Cb
Aa Aa
Ab Ab Ab
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= = =
Ca3
Ab4
Aa8
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= = = = = =
Ca3
Ab4
Aa8
Pr7Hr8Qr7
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« Calendar » - text C
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Sign 380,captured byPaul Horley
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Tracing of Paul Horley
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Text C
Sign turning as comlexification
Text C
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«Decipherement» from S. Fischer
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Pv7Qv8 Hv5
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FR38
Pv7Qv8 Hv5
Db4Db6 xxSb6
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FR38
Pv7Qv8 Hv5
Db4Db6 xxSb6
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FR38
Pv7 Barthel Pv7 HorleyHv5
Db4
Db6 xx
Sb6 Barthel
Sb6 Horley
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Un signe
Catalog I.Pozdniakov – K.Pozdniakov
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It is quite probable that the scribe created the elaborated block in line Na3 being motivated by a necessity (functional or aesthetic) to extend some basic structure to a mirror-like one: the bird sign is set in the center of the composition, surrounded by three pairs of mirrored graphemes according to the pattern: A B C D C B A.
Such «graphical polindroms», most possibly, do not have any phonetic base.
C B A? C B A B C DC B A
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