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CONFERERENCE CALL WITH RETfRED MILITARY ADVISORSWEDNESDAY, MARCH 19, 2003

CHAIRMAN'S OFFICE, ROOME' "{rUE PENTAGON

Participants:

Colonel Carl Kenneth Allard (USA, Retired)Major Robert S. Bevelacqua (USA, Retired)Lieutenant General Daniel W. Christman (USA, Retired)General Wesley Clark (USA, Retired)General Ronald Fogelman (USAF, Retired)Lieutenant General Buster Glosson (USAF, Retired)Brigadier Genera l David Grange (USA, Retired)Admiral David E. Jeremiah (USN, Retired)Admiral Thomas Joseph Lopez (USN. Retired)Lieutenant Colonel Robert L. Maginnis (USA, Retired)Rear Admiral Thomas F. Marfiak (USN, Retired)General Barry McCaffi'ey (USA, Retired)Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney (USAF, Retired)General William Nash (USA, Retired)Major General Donald W. Shepperd (USAF, Retired)Major General Paul E. Vallely (USA. Retired)General Larry D. Welch (USAF. Retired)

T Major General Perry Smith (USAF, Retired) Plane to New York

Declines:

General Wayne A. Downing (USA, Retired)Lieutenant General Bernard Trainor (USMC, Retired)

T elephone Messages Left (Office and Cellu lar):

General Charles E. Wilhelm (USMC. Retired)General George Joulwan (USA, Retired)General Hugh Shelton (USA, Retired)General Glen K. Otis (USA. Retired)Genera l Will iam F. "Buck" Kernan (USA. Retired)General Charles A. Homer (USAF, Retired)Admiral Dennis C. Blair (USN, Retired)General Thomas S. Moorman (USAF, Retired)Colonel Jack Jacobs (USA, Retired)Lieutenant Genera l Frank B. Campbell (USAF, Retired)Major General George Harrison (USAF, Retired)

In KuwaitPlane to California

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pe r yesterday afternoon's conve rsation, i ne ed to lock in a t i me with general mcc hrys t a land our mi l i t a ry analysts asap. aga in . looking at approximately a IS-minu te phone callfor the general:

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operations upda t egeneral s t an mcchrystal , jcs

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Conference CallMilitary Analysts

2:00 pm, Tuesday, April I , 2003Roo m l(2) T he Pentagon

(As of March 28, 2003/4:30 pm)

PROPOSED AGENDA

2:00 pm Welcome and In troduction (G uide lines)

Chris Willcox, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense forPublic Affairs

2:01 pm Iraqi Paramilitary (Irregulars) Brief

A encL..--..,__--' Senior Intelligence Officer, Defense Intelligence

Agency

OIF Operational Update

....~ .IMiddle East Desk Officer, Defense Intelligence

2:15 pm

Major General Stanley A. McChrystaJ , Vice Director for Operations(J-3), Joint Chiefs of Staff

2:30 pm Call Concludes

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2:00 pm, Tuesday, Apr il 1, 2003Room The Pentagon

(As of April 1, 200311 2:15 pm)

ParticipatingGeneral Barry McCaffreyRear Admiral Thomas F. MarfiakGeneral Glen K. OtisLieutenant General Dan ChristmanGeneral Wi lliam F. "Buck" KernanMajor Genera l Donald W . ShepperdLieutenant General Thomas McInerneyGeneral Thomas MoormanBrigadier General David GrangeMajor General Perry SmithLieutenant Colonel Robert MaginnisGeneral Charles WilhelmLie utenant General Bernard TrainorMajor Robert BevelacquaLieutenant General Frank B. Campbe llColonel Carl AllardMajor General Paul E. VallelyAdmiral Thomas LopezAdmira l David JeremiahMajor General Tom Wilkerson

Tentative or DecliueGeneral Ronald FogelmanGeneral Larry WelchGeneral Wayne Downing (T)Lieutenant General Buster GlossonColonel Jack JacobsGeneral Wilham NashGeneral Wesley Clark (T)General Hugh Sh eltonMajor General George HarrisonGeneral Joseph Ralston (T)General Merri ll McPeak

Special Operation Achievements Thus Far(As of March 31, 2003)

• U.S. Naval Special Operations forces precluded Saddam Hussein's apparentattempt to wage ecological warfare on his neighboring countries by seizingat the outset of the war oil terminals off the Al Faw Peninsula.

Navy SEALs were given the Al Faw mission, with commandos from the RoyalMarines following close behind . After a preassault barrage from Marine and AirForce jets and AC-130 gun ships, SEAL teams flew close to the water on AirForce Special Operations MH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters to their objective:two oil platforms in the Persian Gulfoff the coast of Al Faw.

By the morni ng of Marc h 21, the SEALs, a small contingent of Polish SpecialOperations Forces, and the Royal Marine units had secured those platformstogether with most of the peninsula-reducing by 90 percent Saddam's abilityto soak the Persian Gulfwith Iraqi crude. Coalition concern was justified.

The SEAL teams discovered that explosives had been placed at many of thewells, although they had not yet been wired to detonators. One of the opensea oil terminals were rigged with explosives for destruction.

This action precluded Hussein from potentially pouring millions of gallons ofrawoil into the Arabian gulf as he did during Desert Storm, which caused an oilslick estimated as three times larger than the Exxon Valdes oil spill inAlaska.

It also ensured that the oil terminals were preserved for theresumption of oil production, which will enable a much more rapid econo micrecovery for the post-Saddam government.

• U.S . Army Special Forces have been conducting Unconventional Warfare withthe Kurds ofNorthern Iraq.

They have helped, supply, and organize Kurdish formations that have successfullysmashed the Ansar AI Islam redoubt that had been establi shed in the vicinity ofKh unna near the Iranian border. The remnants of this organization thought to beconnected to Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden are now attempting to cross theborder into Iran.

Additionally, Close Air Support strikes in the same vicinity have forced IraqiRegular forces from the lines they have held for years back toward the city ofMosul. In addition, U.S. Army Special Operations Forces and Air Force CombatControllers (Air Commandos) have been conducting long-range reconnai ssance aswell as SR missions throughout the Western Desert known as the "Scud Box."

To date, no SCUDs have been launched either at Kuwait, Saudi Arabia or Israelfrom this area.

• From the outset of the war, U.S. Air Force AC-130 gun ships have been cont inuouslyengaged in close air support missions of SOF ground forces against hundreds of targets.

They have been instrumental in attiring dug-in Iraqi formations in the North,West, and South. Additionally, U.S. Air Force Special Operations MC-130 Talonshave flown hundreds of resupply missions dropping supplies to SOF teams on theground.

• PSYOP missions developed by Anny Special Operations personnel have worked withAir Force Special Operations and conventional Air Force units to drop more than 20million leaflets in areas under the control of the Hussein regime.

The messages on the leaflets have ranged from providing instructions on where toget food, water and medical treatment, instructions aimed at enemy soldiers on forproperly surrendering to the coalition, and warnings not to participate in WMDoperations.

• U.S. Army Rangers and Anny Special Operations gunship helicopters have beeninstrumental in attacking and seizing airfields in Northwestern Iraq, in addition to havingconducted dozens of raids and interdiction missions against Iraqi LOCs.

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CIV, OASD-PAThursday. April 10, 2003 6:50 PMRheinlander, Thomas E., l TC, JCS, PAO; Haddock, Ellen (Katie) Col, OCJCSIPAWillcox, Chris CIV OASD-PA; Whitman, Bryan, SES, OASD-PA; DeFrank, James. COL,OASD-PA; CIV, OASD-PAmilitary ana ysts agen a + attendance list

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Welcome and Introduction (Guidelines)

Chris Willcox, Deputy Assistant Secretary ofDefensc forPublic Affairs

Iraqi Reconstruction Efforts

William 1. Luti, Deputy Assistant Secretary for InternationalSecurity Affairs (Tentative)

OI F Operational Update

Major General Stanley A. McChrystal, Vice Director for Operations(J-3), Joint Chiefs of Staff

Call Concludes (Guidelines)

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2:00 pm, Friday, April ! !, 2003(As of Apl'"il l O, 2003/6:45 pm)

ParticipatingBrigadier General David GrangeGeneral Montgomery MeigsLieutenant General Dan ChristmanLieutenant Colonel Robert MaginnisGeneral William F. "Buck"KernanRear Admiral Thomas F. MarfiakGeneral Thomas MoormanMajor General Perry SmithMajor Robert BevelacquaLieutenant General Bernard TrainorMajor General Paul E. VallelyCo lonel Carl AllardGeneral Ronald FogelmanGeneral William NashGeneral Joseph RalstonMajor General Donald W . Shepperd

Tentative or Dec lineAdmiral Thomas Lopez (D)General Glen K. Otis (0)General Wayne Downing (T)

UndecidedGeneral Wesley ClarkGeneral Charles WilhelmColonel Jack JacobsLieutenant General Thomas McinerneyLieutenant General Frank B. CampbellAdmiral David JeremiahGeneral Larry WelchGeneral Hugh She ltonLieutenant General Buster GlossonMajorGeneral GeorgeHarrisonGeneral Merrill McPeak

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Rheinlander, Thomas E., LTC, JCS, PAOMonday, April 21, 2003 2:37 PMMcCreary, T. L., CAPT. JCS, PAOHaddock, Ellen (Katie) Col, OCJCS/PAFW: conference call with retired military analysts

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Sir,Given proposed briefe r of the pend ing conference calIon Fri day and t he four day

delay unti l it happens i n which ope rations will continue to wa ne , from t he op e r a tiona lPOV, thi ' t is time for MG MCChyr s t a l to bow out and hand-off t o HA gurus .

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SUBJECT: PUBLIC AFFAIRS GUIDANCE - MESSAGES, Q'S AND A'S ON FRIENDLY FIRECASUALTIES/FRATRICIDE.

1. THIS MESSAGE PROVIDES MESSAGES AND Q'S AND A'S FOR USE IN HANDLINGQUERIES REGARDING FRIENDLY FIRE CASUALTIES. IT IS INTENDED FOR USE INRESPONSE TO QUERY ONLY.

2. PUBLIC AFFAIRS POSTURE IS PASSIVE, RESPONSE TO QUERIES ONLY.

3. MESSAGES.A DEFINITION OF FRATRICIDE/FRIENDLY FIRE PER AR 600-34. "A CIRCUMSTANCE

IN WHICH MEMBERS OF THE U.S. OR FRIENDLY MILITARY FORCES AREMISTAKINGLY, OR ACCIDENTALLY, KILLED OR INJURED IN ACTION BY THE U.S.OR FRIENDLY FORCES WHILE ENGAGED WITH AN ENEMY, OR WHILE FIRING AT AHOSTILE FORCE, OR WHAT IS THOUGHT TO BE A HOSTILE FORCE."

B. FRATRICIDE IS AVOIDED OR LIMITED BY MULTIPLE ACTIONS, INCLUDINGRIGOROUS TRAINING OF INDIVIDUALS AND UNITS IN VEHICLE RECOGNITION ANDKNOWLEDGE OF FIRE CONTROL MEASURES, ESTABLISHING APPROPRIATE FIRECONTROL MEASURES DURING THE PLANNING AND CONDUCT OF AN OPERATIONTO RESTRICT OR PERMIT FIRES ACROSS THE BATTLEFIELD, ADHERENCE TOFIRE CONTROL MEASURES AND RULES OF ENGAGEMENT (ROE) DURINGOPERATIONS, AND EMPHASIS ON SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. TECHNOLOGY CANCONTRIBUTE TO THE AVOIDANCE OF FRATRICIDE, BUT WAR FIGHTER TRAININGAND LEADERSHIP ARE THE PRINCIPAL DETERMINANTS.

C. TECHNOLOGY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE WARFIG HTERS' SITUATIONALAWAREN ESS AND ASSIST IN THE PREVENTION OF FRATRICIDE. EXAMPLESARE THE ARMY'S FORCE XXI BATTLE COMMAND BRIGADE AND BELOW (FBCB2)AND SECOND GENERATION FORWARD-LOOKING INFRARED (FLlR) (SGF). FBCB2SUPPORTS SITUATIONAL AWARENESS DOWN TO THE PLATFORM LEVEL ACROSSALL BATTLEFIELD FUNCTIONAL AREAS (BFAS) AND ECHELONS. ACROSS THEBATTLEFIELD, LEADERS CAN USE THE DIGITAL DISPLAY TO REDUCE CHAOS ANDCONFUSION, AND FOCUS COMBAT POWER AT THE DESIRED POINT.

D. SECOND-GENERATION FLiR PROVIDES ARMOR, INFANTRY, ANDRECONNAISSANCE FORCES WITH A LEAP-AHEAD CAPABILITY TO DETECT,ACQU IRE, AND IDENTIFY TARGETS IN ALL WEATHER AND VISIBILITY CONDITIONS,EVEN DURING NIGHT OPERATIONS AND IN CONDITIONS OF LIMITED VISIBILITYDUE TO SMOKE, DUST, SAND, AND FOG. SECOND GENERATION FLiREFFECTIVELY DOUBLES THE IDENTIFICATION RANGE AND INCREASES THEDETECTION RANGE BY 55% COMPARED TO THE FIRST GENERATION FLiR USEDDURING THE 1991 GULF WAR. AS A RESULT, SGF ALLOWS THE SHOOTERS TODETECT AND IDENTIFY TARGETS BEYOND THE RANGE OF DIRECT-FIRE WEAPONSYSTEMS, CONTRIBUTING TO IMPROVEMENTS IN LETHALITY AND SURVIVABILITYOF OUR FORCES AND REDUCTION IN FRATRICIDE.

E. NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE TRAINING, OPERATIONAL PLANNING, TECHNOLOGY,AND LEADERSHIP, WARFARE IS A HUMAN ENDEAVOR AND MISTAKES WILL BEMADE. SOME OF THOSE MISTAKES MAY CONTRIBUTE TO FRATRICIDE. THEINTENSITY AND SPEED OF COMBAT, FEAR, FATIGUE, DUST, SMOKE, AND MANYOTHER FACTORS CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY CALLED "THEFOG OF WAR." ONE GOAL OF TRANSFORMATION IS TO CUT THROUGH THE FOGOF WAR AND GIVE COMMAND ERS, LEADERS AND SOLDIERS A NEAR-PERF ECTSITUATIONAL AWAR ENESS OF THE BATTLEFIELD.

F. EFFORTS TO REDUCE FRIENDLY-FIRE INCIDENTS CONTINUE TO RECEIVE VERYHIGH EMPHASIS. AS WAYS AND MEANS TO DO SO ARE MATURED, THEY WILL BE

EMBEDDED IN THE ARMY'S DOCTRINE, ACQUISITION AND TRAINING. HOWEVER,BECAUSE CHAOS AND UNCERTAINTY REMAIN, THE COMPLETE ELIMINATION OFFRIENDLY-FIRE INCIDENTS CANNOT BE GUARANTEED. WE MUST NOT LETREASO NABLE CAUTION EVOLVE INTO TIMIDITY, WHICH WOULD LIKELY MEANGREAT ER CASUALTIES FROM ENEMY ACTION.

G. THE PROGRAMS BEING DEVELOPED AND INSTITUTED TO REDUCE THEPOTENTIAL FOR FRIENDLY-FIRE INCIDENTS NECESSITATE THE CONTINU INGNEED FOR TOUGH, REALISTIC TRAINING . THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR ARMYAND ITS ABILITY TO ACCOMPLISH THE MISSION WITH MINIMUM CASUALTIES AREA DIRECT RESULT OF TRAINING.

4. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

Q1, WHAT HAS THE ARMY DONE SINCE THE GULF WAR TO DECREASE THE CHANCEOF FRIENDLY FIRE ON THE BATTLEFIELD?A1. IN TERMS OF TRAINING, ALL OF OUR COMBAT CENTERS, SPECIFICALLY THENATIONAL TRAINING CENTER (NTC) AT FORT IRWIN, CALIFORNIA, AND THE COMBATMANEUVER TRAINING CENTER (CMTC) AT HOHENFELS, GERMANY, HAVE TAKENMEASURES TO EVALUATE IDENTIFICATION AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS ON THEBATTLEFIELD.

Q2. THE BATTLEFIELD COMBAT IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM (BCIS) WAS DESIGNED TOHELP IDENTIFY FRIENDLY FORCES ON THE BATTLEFIELD. THE PROGRAM WASTERMINATED IN 2001, WHY?A2. BCIS BACKGROUND - PROGRAM WAS INITIATED IN 1993 BUT IT WAS ORIGINALLYDESIGNED TO PROVIDE ONLY A GROUND-TO-GROUND IDENT IFICATION CAPABILITYFOR MOUNTED COMBAT VEHICLES. IT DID NOT ASSIST WITH ALL COMBAT ID REALMS[AIR-TO-G ROUND OR MOUNTED-TO-DISMOUNTED I DISMOUNTED-TO-MOUNTEDIDENTITY]. ADDITIONALLY, IT WAS NOT JOINT AND COALITION INTEROPERABLE. DUETO THE SYSTEM'S LIMITATIONS TO MEET ALL OF THE ID REQUIREMENTS AND THECHALLENGES OF SYSTEM INTEGRATION , AND ASSOCIATED COSTS, ITWASTERMINATED IN 200 1.

Q3. WHAT IS THE ARMY DOING TO DEVELOP COMBAT IDENTIFICATION (CID) SYSTEMS?A3. ARMY'S CURRENT APPROACH TO CID - 3 PRONG APPROAC H - 1ST IS SITUATIONALAWA RENESS; 2ND IS BETTER TACTICS TECHNIQUES PROCEDU RES (TTP) & TRAINING;3RD IS ENHANCED OPTICS + INFRARED TECHNOLOGY. WITHOUT PROVIDING TOOMUCH DETAIL FOR OPERATIONAL SECURITY REASONS, IT CAN BE NOTED THAT CIDSYSTEMS ARE BEING DISTRIB UTED TO COALITION AND ALLIED FORCES TO ENHANCESITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND IDENTIFI CATION OF FRIENDLY FORCES. THESESYSTEMS INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, THERMAL IDENTIFICATION PANELS, THEPHOENIX INFRARED COMBAT BEACO N SYSTEM AND GLOW TAPE. ADDITIONALSYSTEMS ARE IN DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING PHASES AND WILL BE FIELDED ASSOON AS PRACTICABLE TO PROVIDE:

• BETTER SITUATIONAL AWARENESS DERIVED FROM BLUE (FRIENDLY) FORCETRACKING, FBCB2 & GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM (GPS) ENSURING UNITSKNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE FRIENDLE S ARE, THEREBY REDUCINGTHE POSSIBILITY OF FRATRICIDE.

• BETT ER SITUATIONAL AWAR ENESS, COUPLED WITH IMPROVED TTP HASRAISED THE SENSITIVITY LEVEL & ACUITY OF TODAY'S FORCES TO ENSURETHEY HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE OF THE TARGET'S IDENTITY PRIOR TO ANENGAGEMENT. AN EXAMPLE OF THIS TRAINING INCLUDE S THE RECOGNITIONOF COMBAT VEHICLES (ROC-V) , THERMAL SIGNATURE IDENTIFI CATIONTRAINING THAT HELP SOLDIERS LEARN TO IDENTIFY THE THERMALSIGNATURES OF COMBAT VEHICLES. ROC-V IS AN INTERACTIVE, WINDOWSBASED CURRICULUM THAT TEACHES THE UNIQUE PATERN S AND SHAPES OF

VEHICLE "HOTSPOTS' AND OVERALL VEHICLE SHAPES. ROC-V ALSO PROVIDESSOLDIERS WITH PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE IN THE USE OF THEIR SENSOR IMAGECONTROLS. WITH VIRTUAL SIGHT CONTROLS, SOLDIERS LEARN TOEFFECTIVELY ADJUST THEIR THERMAL IMAGES TO FIND TARGETS AND BRINGOUT THEIR THERMAL ID CUES.

• IMPROVED OPTICS (2ND GEN FLiRS + NEW ER NIGHT VISION DEVIC E SYSTEMS)PLUS PASSIVE THERMAL TECHNOLOGY, ENABLE GUNNERS TO MAKE APCS ITIVE IDENTIFICATION WITH GREATER CLARITY AND ACCURACY, ATGREATER RANGES.

• THE COMBINATION OF THESE APPROACHES REDUCES THE POTENTIAL FORFRATCIDE.

04. WHAT ARE FRIENDLY FIRE CASUALTIES?A4. OEFINITION OF FRATRICIDE/FRI ENDLY FIRE PER AR 600-34. "A CIRCUMSTANCE INWHICH MEMBERS OF THE U.S. OR FRIENDLY MILITARY FORCES ARE MISTAKINGLY, ORACCIDENTALL Y, KILLED OR INJURED IN ACTION BY THE U.S. OR FRIENDLY FORCESWHILE ENGAGED WITH AN ENEMY, OR WHILE FIRING AT A HOSTILE FORCE, OR WHATIS THOUGHT TO BE A HOSTILE FORCE:

Q5. WHAT CAUSES FRIENDLY FIRE CASUALTIES?AS. COMBAT IS HIGHLY COMPLEX AND STRESSFUL. OPERATIONS ARECONDU CTED 24 HOURS A DAY, IN ALL TYPES OF TERRAIN AND WEATH ER. THEYINVOLVE RAPID MANEUVER AND INTENSE ENGAGEMENTS USING HIGHLY LETHALWEAPONS SYSTEMS FIRED FROM A VARIETY OF AIR, GROUND AND SEAPLATFORMS. BATTLEFIELDS ARE OBSCURED BY DUST AND SMOKE, SOLDIERSBECOME FATIGUED , AND EQUIPMENT CAN MALFUNCTION. THESE AND OTHEROCCURRENCES PRODUCE WHAT IS CALLED THE "FOG OF WAR:

Q6. HOW MANY AMERICAN CASUALTIES RESULTED FROM FRATRICIDE DURING THEPERSIAN GULF WAR ?A6. OF THE TOTAL OF 613 MILITARY BATTLE CASUALTIES IN OPERATION DESERTSTORM, 146 SERVICE PERSONNEL WERE KILLED IN ACTION, INCLUDING 35 KILLED BYFIRE FROM FRIENDLY FORCES, AND 467 WERE WOUNDED, INCLUDING 72 BY FIREFROM FRIENDLY FORCES.

Q7. WHAT ARE THE LEADING CAUSES OF FRATRICIDE?A7. THE FACTORS THAT CAN CAUSE FRATRICIDE ARE:

• CHAOS AND CONFUSION OF WARFARE• INADEQUATE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS• INADEQUATE EMPLOYMENT OF, AND ADHERENCE TO, FIRE CONTROL

MEASURES• COMBAT IDENTIFICATION FAILURES

Q8. DURING OPERATION DESERT STORM, HOW DID THE FRATRICIDE INCIDENTSOCCUR?AS. FRIENDLY-FIRE CASUALTIES ARE NOT UNIQUE TO OPERATION DESERT STORM .DURING OPERATION DESERT STORM, APPROXIMATELY 39 PERCENT OF THEFRIENDLY-FIRE INCIDENTS (11 OUT OF 28) APPEARED TO BE AS A RESULT OF TARGETMISIDENTIFICATION. MISID ENTIFICATION WAS A RESULT OF SEVERAL FACTORSWEATHER AND BATTLEFIELD CONDITIONS BEING THE PRINCIPAL REASONS .COORD INATION PROBLEMS ACCOUNTED FOR APPROXIMATELY 29 PERC ENT (8 OUT OF28) FRIENDLY FIRE INCIDENTS. OF THE REMAINING NINE INCIDENTS, SIX WERE DUE TOTECHNICAL ANDIOR ORDNANCE MALFUNCTIONS; THREE INCIDENTS HAD INSUFFICIENTOR INCONCLUSIVE FINDINGS TO DETERMINE CAUSE.

Q9. THERE SEEMS TO BE A HIGHER PROPORTION OF CASUALTIES FROM FRIENDLYFIRE IN OPERATION DESERT STORM AS OPPOSED TO PREVIOUS CONFLICTS. IS THATTHE CASE?A9. BASED ON THE REPORTS USED AND THE METHODS OF SURVEY REPORTED, THEPERCENTAGES OF CASUALTIES VARIED, TO INCLUDE: SIX PERC ENT INPANAMNOPERATION JUST CAUSE, 13 PERCENT IN GRENADN OPERATION URGENTFURY, STUDIES REFLECTING 10-14 PERCENT IN VIETNAM, AND 12-14PERCENT INWORLD WAR II AND 17 PERCENT IN OPERATI ON DESERT STORM.

ANOTHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPERATION DESERT STORM AND PREVIOUS WARSWAS THE GREAT NUMBER OF LONG-RANGE ENGAGEMENTS AND BATTLES IN LIMITEDVISIBILITY. FIRE CONTROL SYSTEM5-SIGHTS AND COMPUTERS-ARE FAR MORECAPABLE THAN IN THE PAST. WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVEHIGH PROBABLITIES OF HITS AND KILLS AT GREATER RANGES. THE NATURE OF THEDESERT PERMITTED ENGAGEMENT OF TARGETS AT RANGES EXCEEDING TWO ANDONE HALF KILOMET ERS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND IN ALMOST ALL WEATHERCONDITI ONS. EFFECTIVE LONG-RANGE FIRES DO MUCH TO W IN BATTLES WITHFEWER CASUALTIES, BUT THESE ENGAGEMENTS ALSO PLACE A PREMIUM ONPOSITIVE TARGET IDENTIFICATION. IN ADDITION TO INCREASED RANGES, DESERTWARFARE IS CHARACTERIZED BY PERIODS OF LIMITED VISIBILITY. WEATHERCONDITI ONS, SUCH AS SAND AND RAIN STORMS THAT OCCURR ED DURINGOPERATION DESERT STORM, THE DUST AND SMOKE OF BATTLE, AND DARKNESSOFTEN AID ATTACKING FORCES BY SHIELDING THEM FROM ENEMY OBSERVATION . ITIS REASONABLE TO ASSUME THESE CONDITIONS WERE , TO SOME EXTENT,RESPONS IBLE FOR RELATIVELY LOW COALITION CASUALTIES. HOWEVER, THESECONDITIONS ALSO OEGRADE SOMEWHAT THE SIGHTING SYSTEMS AIR AND GROUNDFORCES USE. IN SUCH CONDITIONS, STATE-OF-THE-ART SIGHTS PROVIDE SUFFICIENTRESOLUTION TO IDENTIFY GENERAL TARGETS, BUT OFTEN LACK THE RESOLUTION TOPROVIDE CLEAR IDENTIFICATION OF VEHICLE TYPE. LONG-RANG E, LIMITED-VISIBILITYENGAGEMENTS ARE PART OF THE ART OF MODERN WARFARE.

A FINAL FACTOR ON THE MODERN BATTLEF IELD IS THE PRESENCE OF COALITIONFORCES EQUIPPED WITH DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT THAN EMPLOYED BY US FORCES.EXTRA CARE MUST BE TAKEN WH EN COALIT ION FORCES FROM DIFFERENT NATIONSARE OPERATING IN THE SAME AREA. IN MANY CASES, THEY WILL NOT SHARE ACOMMON PICTURE OF THE BATTLEFIELD OR EVEN EMPLOY SIMILAR ANTI-FRATRICIDETACTICS AND CONTROL MEASURES. FURTHER COMPLICATING THE CHALLENGE,COALITION FORCES MAY BE EQUIPPEDWITH COMBAT VEHICLES OF THE SAME TYPEAS ENEMY FORCES. COALITION WARFARE INTERJECTS A NEW DIFFICULTY INTO THECHALLENGES SURROUNDING PREVENTION OF FIRE FROM FRIENDLY FORCES.

Ql0. DURING OPERATION DESERT STORM , WHAT TYPE OF INCIDENTS RESULTED INCASUALTIES FROM FRIENDLY FIRE?Al0. INVESTIGATIONS HAVE IDENTIFIED 28 INCIDENTS DURING OPERATION DESERTSTORM IN WHICH US FORCES INADVERTENTLY ENGAGED OTHER AMER ICAN FORCES,RESULTING IN THE DEATHS OF 35 SERVICEMEN AND THE WOUNDING OF 72 OTHERS.OF THE 28 U.S. INCIDENTS, 16 WERE IN GROUND-T0-GROUND ENGAGEMENTS, WITH 24KILLED AND 57 WOUND ED, WHILE NINE WERE IN AIR-TO-GROUND ENAGAGEMENTSTHAT RESULTED IN 11 KILLED AND 15 WOUNDED. OTHER INCIDENTS INCLUDED ONESHIP-TO-SHIP, ONE SHORE-TO-SHIP, AND ONE GROUND-TO-AIR ENGAGEMENT.HOWEVER, NO CASULATI ES RESULTED FROM THESE INCIDENTS.

Ql1 . WHAT PROCEDURES WILL BE TAKEN ON THE BATTLEFIELD ONCE A FRIENDLYFIRE INCIDENT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE OCCURRED?All . ONCE A FRIENDLY FIRE INCIDENT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE OCCURRED, ARMYREGULATIONS REQUIRES BOTH A SAFETY AND COLLATERAL INVESTIGATION (SEE AR

385-40) . IN THE EVENT OF FRIENDLY FIRE FATALITIES, AR 600-34 PRESCRIBESFURTHER REQUIREMENTS. AR 15-6 SETS FORTH PROCEDU RES FOR THE CONDUCT OFINFORMAL AND FORMAL INVESTIGATIONS AND GUIDES THE CONDUCT OFINVESTIGATIONS REQUIRING THE DETAILED GATHERING AND ANALYZ ING OF FACTS,AND THE MAKING OF RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THOSE FACTS.

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Upda te on Cnalition Reconstruction Efforts in Iraq

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ParticipatingColonel Carl AllardLieutenant Colonel Robert MaginnisGeneral Wi lliam NashGeneral Joseph RalstonLieutenant General Bernard TrainorColonel John WardenGeneral Montgomery MeigsLieutenantGeneral Dan ChristmanRear Admi ral Thomas F. MarfiakMajor Genera l Donald W. ShepperdMajor Robert BevelacquaColonel Jack JacobsLieutenant General Thomas McinerneyGeneral Glen K. OtisMajor General Paul E. Vallely

Tentative or DeclineUndecidedGeneral William F. "Buck" Kernan (T)Majo r General Perry Smith (T)Genera l Wayne Downing (T)Brigadier General David Grange (0)General Ronald Fogelman (D)Admiral Thomas Lopez (D)General Wesley Clark (0)General Charles Wilhelm (0)Lieutenant General Frank B. Campbell (0)Admiral David Jeremiah (0)General Larry Welch (D)General Hugh Shelton (D)Lieutenant General Buster Glosson (D)Major General George Harri son (0)General Merri ll McPeak (D)General Thomas Moorman (0)

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--Go t a J5 SME to do a backgrounder with Bradley Graham this afternoon on Pr oli fera tionSecurity I ni t i a tive . Spoke with J5 's EA, and sent an emai l to Gen Casey, (cc t he J 5 ,e tc .) to "remind" all t ha t this was a lre ady i n t he works , a nd so no one would be surprisedwhen t hey read the wa s h i ng t on Post t omo r row - - or Friday , whe never i t r uns.

--WOODWARD i nterview : Gen Pace brought t h i s subject up, as i t came up at the NSC t oday.Condi Rice men tioned i t , Pr es i de nt chi med in, etc. Gen Pac e indicated that we are tof ol l ow Condi 's l ead , ge t some input/guidance/outline , etc . I have a cal l i n with AnnaPerez, j ust to re lay the conversation and s ee whe r e we are . I think she had a long chatwith Mr. Woodward t od ay. wi l l f ollow up; at l e a s t the skids a r e greased, and this wil l bean expec ted event. Joan has prepared t he memo for the Chairman on thi s .

- -Got all t he Chairman 's transcr ipts you sent (New Delhi press conference ; GEO -TV,Pa k istan; and Bagr am press conference) hung on t he webs i t e . Also passed them to Co lDeFrank f or us e on De f en s e Li nk . I not iced t hey used one o f J i m Garamore 's s t ories in t hePe ntagon Brie f ing (the weekly "blurb " ) wi th a hotlink to DefenseLink, so t ha t 's gr eat(add i t i ona l ) cove rage / a udience .

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QUESTION: Got an ema il from t he Rendon Group folks. They originally s e nt i t t o you, t he nresent t o me when they got your auto-response . John Rendon wil l be i n the bu ild i ng Mondayafternoon (4 Aug) for s everal meetings, and they were hoping to get him on your s chedule(and they promised he will not go over the time l imit . ) Do you want me to schedule this?30 minutes?

PRED ICTION : Afraid LIB ERTY for this weekend may be cancelled . Saturday schedule isbuilding .

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Just as a head's up .SecDef is scheduled to meet with t he r et i r ed general o f f i ce r s / mi l i t a ry analysts on Tues ,12 Aug , s omecime betwee n 1030-1200 here i n the Pencagon . He may ask the Vice Chairman(Ac ting Chairman) t o join h i m.The briefer , e t c . discussed below is our s for action - - NOT looking f o r Ge n Pace co be t heduty ops briefer.Just wan ted you to be aware that thi s might pop up on Gen Pace's calendar a s a "drive by "with SecDef .V! RKat ie

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>>Just as a head 's up.>Se cDe f i s schedu led to me e t with the retired general off icers/mi l i tary analysts on Tues ,1 2 Aug, somet ime between 10 30-12 0 0 here i n the Pentagon. He may ask the Vi c e Chairman(Act ing Chairman) to join h im .>The br i efer, etc . d iscussed below is ours for act ion -- NOT l ooking for Gen Pace to bethe du ty ops brief er .>Just wanted you to be aware that t his might pop up on Gen Pace's calendar as a "driveby" with SecDef .>V/ R>Katie>> -----Or i>Fr om: ~ LTC, JCS SJS>Sen t: Monday, August 04, 2003 2 :01 PM>To : Haddock, Bl l en (Kat i e) . Col, OCJCS/PA>Subj e c t : Ou t r ea ch Meeting with SBCDBF and Mi l itary Analysts, 12 Aug, 10 :30 am - 12:00pm>Importance : Low>

>Ma t am~!!:=1_> ~ informed me about a neat opportuni ty t o engage the Mi l itary Analysts andCivi lian Defense Experts next week . He is hos t ing a Lessons Lea r ned outreach f or t heseanalysts on i2 Aug he r e i n the bui lding, vice the weekly telephonic conference call .> ~ requested a I S- minu te militar y operations brief ing from someone on t he JointStaff .> AS you know we are working to ident ify an 0 -6 briefer t o communicate weekly on theconf call.> However, I thought that i f the VCJ CS wanted t o engage t hi s audience i t would be agreat opportunity t o do so and get his message out .> Wha t do you t h i nk?> v/ r ....--_ ....,> LTC

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AGENDA

Welcome a nd Int ro duction (G uidelines)

Chris Willcox, Deput y Assistan t Secretary of Defense forPublic Affairs

Update on Joint Chiefs of Staff T r ip to the Region

General Richard B. Myers (AF) , Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff

Questions and Answers



Call-In Telephone Number:

OIF Conference CanRetired Military Analysts and Civilian Defense Experts

3 :00 pm, Thursday, A ugust 7, 2003(As of August 7, 200319:15 am)

PARTICIPATING Retired Military An alystsColonel Carl AllardMajor Robert BevelacquaLieutenant Colonel Bill CowanGenera l Ronald Foge lmanGeneral William F. "Buck" KernanLieutenant Colonel Robert MaginnisRear Admiral Thom as F. MartiakGeneral Montgomery MeigsMajor Genera l Donald W. ShepperdLieutenant General Bernard TrainorMajor General Paul E. VallelyMajor Gene ral Thomas L. Wilkerson

PARTICIPATING Civilian Defense ExpertsMr. Anthony Cordesman, Fellow, Center for Strategies and International StudiesMr. James Dobbins, Director, International Security and Defense Policy Center, RANDLieutenant General Michael M. Dunn, President, National Defense UniversityMr. Frank J. Gaffney, President, The Center for Security PolicyMr. Grover Norquist, President. Americans for Tax ReformMs. Danielle Pletka, Vice President, Foreign Defense Studies, American Enterprise Institu teMr. Loren B. Thompson, Chief Operating Officer , Lexington InstituteMr. John Wobensmith, Director of Development , Institute of World Politics

T ENT ATIVE or DECLINE Retired Milita ry An alystsLieutenant General Frank B. Campbell (D)Lieutenant General Buster Glosson (D)Major General George Harri son (D)Colonel Jack Jacobs (D)General Merrill McPeak (D)General Thom as Moorman (0)General William Nash (D)General Larry Welch (D)

TENTATIVE or DECLINE Civilian Defense Ex pertsMr. Thomas Donnelly, Fellow, American Enterprise (T)Ms. Nina Shea. Director, Center for Reli gious Freedom (T)Ms. Jessica Tuchman Mathews. President. Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (T)Dr. Mic hael O'Hanlon, Senior Fellow, The Brookings Institution (0)Mr. Chris Preb le, Director of Foreign Pol icy Studies, CATO Institute (D)

UNDECIDED Reti red Milita ry Ana lystsLieutenant General Dan ChristmanGeneral Wayne DowningBrigadier General David GrangeAdmiral David JeremiahLieutenant General Thomas McInerneyGeneral Glen K. OtisGeneral Joseph RalstonGeneral Hugh SheltonMajor Genera l Perry SmithColonel John Warden

UNDECIDED Civilia n Defense Ex pertsDr. Daniel Goure, Senior Fellow. Lexington InstituteMr. Michael J. Horowitz, Senior Fellow, Hudson InstituteMr. Will Marshall, President. Progressive Policy InstituteMr. Jack Spencer, Senior Policy Analyst, The Heritage FoundationDr. Michael Waller, Vice President, The Center for Security Policy

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Welcome a nd Introduction (G uidelines)


Update on J oint Chiefs nf Staff Tr ip to the Region

General Richard B. Myers (AF), Chairman, Joint Chiefs of StatT

Questions and Answers



Call-In Te lephone Number:

OfF Conference CalIRetired Military Analysts and Civilian Defense Experts

3:00 pm, Thursd ay, August 7, 2003(As of August 7, 2003/12:40 pm)

PARTICIPATING Retired Military Ana lystsColonel Carl AllardMajor Robert BevelacquaLieutenant Colonel Bill CowanGeneral Rona ld FogelmanGeneral William F. "Buck" KernanLieutenant Colonel Robert MaginnisRear Admiral Thomas F. MarfiakGeneral Montgomery MeigsGeneral Glen K. OtisGeneral Joseph RalstonMajor General Donald W. ShepperdLieutenant General Bernard TrainorMajor General Paul E. VallelyColonel John WardenMajorGeneral ThomasL. Wilkerson

PARTICIPATING Civilian Defense ExpertsMr. Anthony Cordesman, Fellow, Center for Strategies and International StudiesMr. James Dobbins, Director, International Security and Defense Policy Center, RANDLieutenant General Michael M. Dunn, President, National Defense UniversityMr. Frank J. Gaffney, President, The Center for Security PolicyMr. Michae l J. Horowitz, Senior Fellow, Hudson InstituteMr. Steven Nider, Director for Foreign and Security Studies, Progressive Policy InstituteMr. Grover Norquist, President, Americans for Tax ReformMs. Danielle Pletka, Vice President, Foreign Defense Studies, American Enterprise InstituteMr. Jack Spencer, Senior Policy Analyst, The Heritage FoundationMr. Loren B. Thompson, Chief Operating Officer, Lexington InstituteDr. Michael Waller, Vice President, The Center for Security Po licyMr. John Wobensmith, Director ofDevelopment, Institute of World Politics

TENTATIVE or DECLI NE Reti red Military AoalyslsLieutenant General Frank B. Campbell (D)Lieutenant General BusterGlosson (0)BrigadierGeneral David Grange (D)MajorGeneral George Harrison (0)Colonel Jack Jacobs (0)Admira l David Jeremiah (0)General Merrill McPeak (0)General Thomas Moorman (0)General William Nash (0)General Larry Welch (0)

TENTATIVE or DECLINE Civilian Defense ExpertsMr. Thomas Donnelly, Fellow, American Enterprise (0)Dr. Michael O'Hanlon, SeniorFellow, The Brookings Institution (0)Mr. Chris Preble, Director of Foreign Policy Studies, CATO Institute (0)Ms. Nina Shea. Director, Center for Religious Freedom(0)Ms. Jessica Tuchman Mathews, President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (0)

UNDECIDED Retired Military AnalysisLieutenant General Dan ChristmanGeneral Wayne DowningLieutenant General Thomas McinerneyGeneral Hugh SheltonMajor General Perry Smith

UNDECIDED Civilian Defen se ExpertsDr. Daniel Goure, SeniorFellow, Lexington Institute


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:> #1 - Our reque st i s in t o the J 3 f or g e nera l o f f i c er support . Sta nding by fo r theira ppr oval .:> #2 - VCJCS h a s i t o n hi s c alendar t o atte nd . I think we a re fine - no need fo rSECDEF to do anyt hing more.:> The o n l y thing I could see that might prohib i t his partic ipat i o n would besome unexpected requirement a s Ac ting CJ CS .:> My recommendat ion i s t ha t we d o not reengage o n the issue - it is o n t hes c h e dul e .:> And I d id no te t he Press Conf o n Tu esday, I believ e t h a t SECDEF and VCJ CS wi ll sharet he podium on Tuesday .>

If I get more i nformat i on tonight on t he Op e r a tionsou know ASAP .

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:> As ked CAPT Thorp to work t hro ugh #1 this morning - e xpect he will t e ll:> #2 Checked r e g a r di ng the VCJCS and t ime i s set aside on h i s schedul e -waiting to s e e if SECDEF asks him to join him .>>>

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a couple of qui c ki e s :

as an f y i -- osd pa stil l has not b e en to l d that v c c j s is a l o c k by j c s p a . i f h e is - great , however, please l e t u s know so we can c oordinate wi th protoco l and o t h e r i nvi t e dspeakers . a l s o, vccj s will not participate i n prep meet i ng with secdef p rior t o thea c t ual meeting. t h i s concept has on l y been done once (t h e c hai r at the las t out r eachmeeting ) and i t d idn 't work wel l. we' v e been ins t ructed by s ecd e f not to do t his aga i n.

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CAPT, OCJCS; LT ~S~C,"J:iOC.OlS",-r."~~~'"COL JCS V . H ddock, Ellen to. , 0 , i:l1 C PA; LTC, JCSSJS; CIV, JCS SJS; Schwartz. Norton A., Lt Gen, JCS DJ·3; Peterson, JoeF, MG, JCS J3; Howard, Michelle J, CAPT, JCS J3· Case Gear e W LTG, JCS DJS;Hawkins, James A, Maj Gen, JCS VDJSlDOM; Col, JCS SJSRetired Military Outreach Delegation - 22·25 Sep 03

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General Myers and Ge n e ral Pace,

Retired Mi l i t a ry TV- a na l y s t s arrived i n Iraq t oday. OSD( PA) followed up o n t h e CJCSinvi tation wi th good attendees and a great i tinerary . '

DoD selected key l ocations t hat will cause the analysts t o get the Mr eal p i c t u r e . The key l o c a t i o ns a r e highlighted on t he a ttached itinerary and worth your pe rusal .> The participants are some o f the more i n f l u e ntial and vi s i ble of the ana l ys t s thatcommun icate wi t h the med ia. As a mat ter of fact , severa l ana l y sts conduct e d l i v einterviews today from Iraq.

I t h ink we're hitting a h ome run on this trip. I 'll brief you o n the r e s u l t s whenthey return. Next step is t o s e e what other i n f l ue n tial s we c an ge t t o Iraq f or a similari tinera r y . JCOC is o ne idea I inte nd t o propose .. .>»vf r ,>Frank>

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Delegation:

Lieutenant General Frank B. Campbell (USAF, Retired)Lieutenant Colonel Bill Cowan (USMC, Retired)General Ronald Fogelman (USAF, Retired)Mr. Frank J. Gaffney, President, The Center for Security PolicyLieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis (USA, Retired)Ms. Jessica Tuchman Mathews, President, Carnegie Endowment for International PeaceLieutenant General Thomas Mcinerney (USAF, Retired)Major General William Nash (USA, Retired)Dr. Michael O'Hanlon , Senior Fellow, The Brookings InstitutionMs. Danielle Pletka, Senior Defense Expert, American Enterprise InstituteMajor General Paul E. Vallely (USA, Retired)Mr. Mitchell Ross Semel , Sr Vice President, Programming, East Coast, CBS EntertainmentLieutenant Colonel Carlton Sherwood (USMC, Retired )Major General Donald W. Shepperd (USAF , Retired)Colonel John Warden (USAF, Retired)Mr. John Wobensmith , Director for Development, Institute of World Politics StaffMr. Chris Willcox, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs , aSDMr. Brent Thomas Krueger, Director for Community Relations and Public Liaison, aSDMr. Don Meyer, Special Assistant, aSD

Monday, 22 Sep

OBOOL Depart Kuwait via C-130

11ll30L Arrive Baghdad International AirRort; Met by TBO

1045-1100 En route CPA helipad via rotary wing aircraft

1100-1115 En route CPA HQ via ground vehicles

1115-1230 CPA OvelViewwith CPA Senior Staff, Ambassador'sCpnfenmce RoomAttendees:Ambassado'"'r"P"a"'tn'"'c"'k"Kenneoy, Chief of Stat!LTG Ricardo Sanchez, CG, CJTF-7Ambassador Clayton McManaway, S-e~ni'o- rr"C,cco-un~s'-e-'lo~r'"t'o'''A'-m''bcBreme,Ambassador Chris Segar, Head of British Office, British Embass~

Mr. GaD' Thatcher, Director, ::?1rat~ ic p ommunications

1230-1315 Lunch - CPA Dining Facility

1315-1430 CJTF·7 Ol)jlrational Overview,Attentlees'LTG Sanchez

--'O"'thers TBD on Ground

a @\lor's Conference Room

1430-1515 Meeting wi1h Dr. Ka~ and MG Dayton, lrag Survey rouJl (ISGj(WMD Update)

1515-1615 CPA Ministries Discussions, Amblissaooi's Conference RoomAttendees:Mr. Stephe"n"B"rown==in"'g~, -';S~e-:-nio=r 'A""d"v;""so"'r"', 'Ministry 0 ElectricitYMr. Philip Carroll, Senior Advisor, Ministry of OilMs. Leslye Arsht, Senior Advisor, Ministry of Educalio.. '--~Mr. Williamson Evers enior Advisor, MinilllrY of Edu<:;!tiorj

1615-1800 !lisn to 1" AD (location TBD by BG Dempsey)

1800-1815 En route AI Rashid Hotel

1815-1830 Personal time (refresh)

1830-2000

2000-2015 En route CPA helipad

2015-2030 En route Baghdad International Airport

2045 Depart Baghdad via C-1 30 en route Kuwait

2115L Arrive Kuwait

Tuesday, 23 Sep

0800L Depart Kuwait en route BIAP via C-130

1030L Arrive BIAP; met by TBD

1040-1110 En route AI Hillah via rotary wing aircraft;met by MajGen Tyszkiewicz, CG, MND (CS) and Mr. Mike Gfoeller, CPA-SC

1110-1120 En route MND-CS HQ

1120-1150 M D: OJle atlonalOverview y MajGen Tl"'zkiewicz

1150·1200 Meet with CoalnionlMultinational leaders

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1150-1201 1200-1245 Lunch with troops

1245-1305 En route Women's Rights Center (CPA funded reconstruction project)

1305-1400 ;rour Women's Rights Center and Govern~npe $::enter !3uilding,.......wit r. Dick Naab, CPA-SC Directo

1400-1420 n route Mahawil Mass Grave site

1420-1450

1450-1515 En route Babylon

1515-1600 Site visit of Babylon

1600-1610 En route helipad

1610-1645 En route Camp Victory helipad via rotary wing

1645-1830 'CJ I' ai vis[tand dinne(,troops

1830-1845 En route BIAP via motorcade

1900 Depart Baghdad en route Kuwait via C-130

Wednesday, 24 Sep

0730L

1030L

Depart Kuwait via C-1 30

Arrive Mosul; met by MGDavid Petraeus, CG 101" Div

1030-1050 ~erial tour of Mosul; nd t Div Main L2!

1050-1200 101" Area of Operation North Operational OverviewNideo

1200-1245 Lunch wlBrigade Commanders and Command Se[geants MaJonDivMain DFAC

1245-1315 En route City Hall via Police Station and Courthouse(Reconstruction projects)

1315-1345 Meet Governor and Vice ovsrnor and tour City HallGovernor Ghanim al Basso and ice GlLve ha( s '0 ~ctJ

1345-1400 En route 101 " helipad

1400-1 500 En route Tikrit via rotary wing ; met by MG Raymond Odiemo CG D

1500-1900 ~" ID Program TBOTo include: Operalio~n'"'a7"1"Ov"'e"'rview

Meet with soldiersDinner with soldiersMeet Tikrit local leadersMeet one local NGO

iew reconstruction :Lr:>"'ro""j~=

19001945 Depart Tikrit en route Balad via rotary wing

2000 Depart Balad via C-130

2100L Arrive Kuwait

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CIV. JCS OCJCSWedn esday, Jury 28, 2004 11:10 AMThorp, Frank, CAPT, OCJCSJPAHaddock. Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PAFW: 3 Aug PA Events

Is th i s s omething t ha t will i nvolve t he Chai rman?

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,-__~... CIV. JCS OCJCSFriday, July 30, 2004 2:33 PMHaddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCSfPAThorp, Frank. CAPT, OCJCS/PARE: 3 Aug PA Events

I t wi l l be hard to do . Heal ready had to move once.know ho w long the a na l y s t s

i s o f f ic i a t i ng at a promotion c eremony a t 1 000 , which I ' veDon't really want to jerk the t wo-s t a r around any mor e . 00 youwi l l be i n t he bui l ding ?

> - -- --Original Me s s age - - - - ->From: Haddock , Ellen (Ka tie) , Col,>Sent: Thurs da July 29 . 2004 7 : 00>To: CIV. J CS OCJCS>Cc: Thor p , Frank , CAPT, OCJCS/ PA>Subject : RE: 3 Aug PA Event s

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>I 've a s ked t he qu es tion .>Most of t he t i me when OSD br i ng s t he mi litary a na l y s t s in to t he bu i lding to mee t witht he Sec re t a ry, he i nvi tes t he Cha i r ma n to join hi m. .. s t i ll trying t o ge t c larification one x ac t l y wha t thi s i s (who is coming , or i f i t is a conference cal l) . .. if in fac t i t do esi nc l ude the Chairman, i t wou ld onl y be f o r t he pr e p and outreac h portion -- not t he radioi nterviews.>Shou ld know more soon .>V/R>Katie>> - -- --Original Me s s a e -- -- -> From: CIV, JCS OCJCS> Sent: Wedne s ay, u y 004 11 : 1 0 AM> To: Thor p , Frank, CAPT, OCJCS/PA> Cc : Haddock , Ellen (Katie), Col . OCJ CS/PA> Sub j ec t : FW: 3 Aug PA Events

Is th i s some t hing tha t will i nvolv e the Cha i rma n ?

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Subject : 3 Aug PA Events

> Looking to do Out r e a c h w/Military Ana l ysts :>> Tuesday 3 Augus t> 9 : 25pm - Prep wi?> 9 :4 5a m- l 0: 30 - Outreach> lO : 45 a m-11 : 30 - Radi o>> No Press Avail that we ek per Larry oi Ri t a .>> Let me kno w if t hi s wor ks - t hanks ,

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Whitman. Bryan, SES, OASD-PAJ~:dne.sdaY Augu st 11, 2004 6:28 PM~~~CIV. OSD

Eric Ruff (E-mail 3); Larry DiRita (E-mail 2); Barber, Allison, CIV, OASD-PA; Rhynedance,George, COL OASD-PA' Thorp, Frank, CAPT, OCJCS/PA; Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col,OCJCS/PA OASD-PAPOTUS VFW Speech Monday -- Global Posture

Follow upFlagged

Just to fo l low-up our conversat ion . I attended a meet ing this afternoon at the WhiteHous e t o discuss what the Pres iden t was going to t a l k about i n hi s speech to the VFW onMonday i n ohi o. One component wi l l be an announcement of h i s decis ion to retuer2n~s:o:m:e:::J~7!OC.:o:o:ol l mi l i t ary f or c e s from their overseas loca t ions . OSD was represented by~ (po l i cy ) and myself.

Major communi cat i on tactics will include:

Thursday ni gh t -- cabl e t o embass ies

Friday

Sunday

Monday

Whi te Hous e ment ion i n t he week ahead (of the speech not the specific contents )

(T) NSC backgrounder to a maj or news organization as a set -up piece

POTUS speech at 11 : 30 , f ol l owed by:

-- t wo background briefin $: Penta on and Fore i n Press Center (000 ; DOS; NSCpar ticipants -- Usual suspects : ~

and RDML Sull ivan (DJ- S).) "------------------------------------------------------"

Outreach cal l to mil i tary analyst

Pentagon Channel interview with Fe ith/

Mid-Week - Possible SecDef op -ed in a ma j or publication a couple of days after t he speech(ca librate any of the reporting) .

Working with OSD( po l icy) to deve lop t he fact shee t for DOS cable and background br i e f i ngs(level of detail TBD) .

I have conference cal l tomorrow wi t h t he same group t o finalize the plan . wi l l keep yo uposted.

Tha nks , Bryan

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Cot, OCJCS/PAThursda Auqust 12, 2004 7:01 AM

DR, OCJCS/PAFW : POTU S VFW Speech Monday - Global Posture

Follow Up Flag:Flag Sta tus:

Follow upFlagged

Let me c heck into th i s , and discuss with Bryan at 08 30 ... .

> --- - -Orig i na l Message - - - - ->Fr om: Whitman , Bryan , SES , OASD-PA»s e nt • dn y , August I I , 2004 6:28 PM>To : ClV, OSD>Cc : Eric Ruff (E- ma i l 3 ) ; Larry DiRita (E-ma i l 2 ) ; Barber, Allison, CIV, OASD-PA;Rhynedance , Geor e COL OASD-PA; Tho rp , Frank , CAPT, OCJ CS! PA; Haddock, El len (Katie ) ,Col , OCJ CS! PA; OASD-PA>Subj e c t: POTUS VFW Speech Monda y -- Global Posture

>>Ma jor commun ication t a ct i c s will include :>>Thursday n i g h t - - c able t o e mba s sies>>Friday -- Wh i t e Hous e mentio n i n the week ahead (o f the s p e e c h not t h e>s pecific contents )

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>Jus t t o follow-up ou r conversation. I atte n de d a me e t i ng t h i s afternoon at t he WhiteHo us e t o discuss what the President was going to talk about i n h is speech to t he VFW onMonday in Ohio . One component wi ll be an announcement of his decision t o r e t u r n some70 0 0 0 mili tary f orces from their ove rseas locations . OSD was r epresente d by 1 -'~~--J( Pol i cy ) and myself.

>>Sunday>piece>>Monday>

(T ) NSC backgrou nder to a maj o r news orga nization as a s e t-up

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Pentagon Channe l i nte rview with Fe ith/~ ...

>Mid -Week - possible SecDef op-ed in a major pub l i c a tio n a c o up l e of days af t er t he speech(calibra t e any of the reporting) .>>worki ng with OSD(policy) to deve lop the f ac t sheet f or DOS cable a nd ba c kgro und b r ief ings( l e v e l o f d e t a i l TBD).>>1 have conference cal l t omor row wi th the same g roup to fi na l ize the p l a n. Will keep yo uposted.>>Th a nks, Bryan

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PAMonda , August 16, 2004 10:50 AM~~~~~IV, OCJCS/PA

RE: News and Schedules from OASD-PA

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I s poke wi t h Archie Dav i s l ate l as t we ek . He p r ov ided the following updat es:

7 Sep Outreach - Mi l i ta ry Analysts

(CJ CS i s TOY 8 - 13 Se p ) t o Norway, Luxembour g , Es tonia, La t v i a , Lithuania f o r Fa l l CHODt our )

8 Sep - (T) SecDef spea k s at Ra nd Annual Conference in DC

'3 Sep - Sec De f attends Congre s s ion a l Breakfas t wi t h the l egis lators who met wi t h DecDef o n9 /11 / ; 0 1

1 0 sep - SecDe f hos ts a l unch f o r AHB BremerPA - Dinner at Kalorma for Coa l it i o n Ambassa dors and CPA Le a de rs(Do n ' t know wha t h ap p e n e d t o CJCS intent to recogni ze AHB Bremer, etc.

11 Sep - SecDe f pa r t i c ipates in wreath laying a t Arli ngton Nat i ona l CemeterySecDef s t arts NASCAR e vent i n Ri c hmond(Don ' t know the plan abo ut the Sunday Shows on 12 Se p t)

21 Sep Out r each - Co rpor ate leaders

29 Sep Ou t reach wi th Corporate supporters o f ESGR

Other Ti d b i ts :NLF is e videnta l l y interested i n ope ning a USO cente r in Af g h a n i s t a n - probably i nrecogni tion o f Pa t Tillman

AVA (our g o ld-laden "fr i e nd s" in California) - they 've moved t he i r gala e vent from 22October to TBD - perh a p s next spring . Something about the manager of the Wiltshire ho t e li n Be ver ly Hi ll h aving l e f t , etc . ( I ' d guess he gave them a break on $$ f or their event) .

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Sep - SecDef participates in wrea t h l aying a tSecDef starts NASCAR e v e n t in Richmond(Don ' t know the plan about the Sunday Shows

Sep Outre ach - Corporate leaders

Arlington Na tional Ceme t ery

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>>29 Sep Outreach with Co rpo r a t e supporters o f ESGR>>Other Tidbi t s :>NLF i s evidentally interested i n ope ning a USC c e n te r i n Afghanistan >probably i n recognit ion o f Pa t Til l ma n>>AVA (our go l d- l a den "frie nds " i n Ca l i f o r n ia ) - theY've moved their gala event f r om 22October t o TBD - perhaps next spring . Something about t he ma nager of t he Wilts hi r e ho t eli n Be verl y Hi l l having l ef t , e t c . (I'd guess he gave t hem a b reak o n $$ for their event) .>>V R

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FW: Military Outreach September 8th.

Can youThanks .V!RCol H

check wi th Archie and get t he timeline?

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CIV, OCJCS/PAThursda y, August 19. 2004 8:07 AMDavis, Arch ie, LTC, OASD-PAHaddock , Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJC51PAFW : Military Outreach September 8th.

Archie. Do you have the times f o r CJCS pa r t i c i pa t i o n ? Pl ease l e t me know soonest so wecan block o n hi s schedule.

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> --- - -Origina l Mes sage -- - - ->From: Haddock , Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PA>Sent: wednesday , Augus t 18 , 2004 5 : 06 PM>To : CI V, OCJ CS/PA>Subj e c t: FW: Mi l itary OU t r e a c h September 8th .

>Ca n you c heck with Arc hie and get the timeline ?>Tha nks .>V/ R>Col H>> -----Or i g '>Fr om: CI V, J CS OCJCS>Se n t : Wednesda y , Aug us t 18 . 20 04 4 : 26 PM>To : Ha ddoc k . El len (Kat i e) , Col, OCJ CS/ PA>Subject: FW : Mi l i tary Out r e ach Sept embe r 8t h.>> Wow -- e noug h adva nced no t ice that we might be able to pa rt i c ipate . Can you fi ndout when they want t he Chairman t o talk t o t he group?>>

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>>Many t hanks , L...........~

> --- - -Origina l Message - - - - ->From: Haddo c k , Ellen (Kat i e) , Col , OCJCS/PA>Sent: Wednesday, August 18 , 2 004 5: 06 PM>To: CI V, OCJCS/ PA>Sub j e c t : PW : Military Outreach Septembe r 8t h .>

> an you check wi th Ar c h i e a nd get t h e t i mel ine ?>Tha n ks .>V/ R>Col H>> -- - --Orig>From : CI V, JCS OCJC S>Sent : Wednesday, Aug u s t 18, 200 4 4 :2 6 PM>To : Haddo c k , Elle n (Katie), Col , OCJCS/PA>Subj ect: F W: Military Ou t r eac h Septembe r 8th.>> Wo w -- e n ough a dvan c ed not i c e tha t we mi g h t be able t o participa t e. Can you f indout when t hey wa nt the Chairman t o t alk to t he group ?

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SMSgt. OCJCSlPA· GOVT.OCJCs/PA; 01.OCJCSRE: Military Outreach September 8th.

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Archie - CJCS wi ll be here on the 8 September , he leaves on TOY on the 10 th. Pleas e bringt he material addressed CJCS f o r the 1045-1115 timeslot . Tha nks!

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> Ar chie, Do you have t he t i mes fo r CJCS pa r t i cipa t i on ? Plea se l et me know s oone s t sowe can b l oc k on hi s s chedule.>>>

Many t ha nks , L,;,;.. J OCJ CS/ PA L. .....

> -----Orig i na l Message- --- -> From : Haddoc k , Elle n (Katie ) , Co l , OCJ CS!PA> Sent: Wedne sda August 18 , 20 04 5:06 PM> To: CI V, OCJCS/PA> Subject: FW : Mili tary OUtreach September 8th.>>> Can you c heck wi th Archie a nd ge t t he t i meline?> Thanks.

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We are compi ling Holiday lis t s fo r Genera l Myer s and will need name s and addresses o fmi li tary ana l ys ts i n t he a r ea and a lso the updated l is t o f commande r s a nd execut i veo f f i c e r s o f s e rvi c e org a n i z a t ions . Apprec i a te your ass i s tance in p r oviding me t ha ti n fo rma t ion this wee k.

CIV. OCJCSIPA

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Thorp, Frank, CAPT, OCJCS/PAFriday, September 10, 2004 4:24 PMDavis Arch ie LTC, OASD-PA

CIV, OCJCS/PA; Haddock, Ellen (Kal;el, Col , OCJCS/PA

Could you sl!nd us thl! l!l l!c trons o f your military analyst address list . .. We want to addthem to our protocol list ...

Thanks ,FT

Prank ThorpCaptain, USNSpec ial As s istant f or Public Affairsto the Chairman o f t he J oint Chiefs o f Staf f

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> - - ---Original Message- -- - ->Fr om: Thorp , Frank, CAPT, OCJCS/PA>Se nt : Friday, September 10, 2004 4: 24 PM>To : Da vis, Ar c h i e LTC, OASD- PA>Cc: CIV, OCJCS/ PA; Haddoc k , El len (Ka t ie) , Col . OCJCS! PA>Sub j ect: Addresses>>Arc hie,>>Cou l d you send u s t he electron s of your mil i tary analyst address lis t . . . We want t o addt hem to ou r protoco l list .. .>>Thanks ,>FT>>Fra nk Thorp>Ca p t ain , USN>Speci a l Ass istant f or Publ i c Affa i rs>to t he Cha i r man o f t he Joint Chie f s o f Staf f

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RETIRED MILITARY ANALYSTS(As of September 13, 2(04 )

Colonel Carl Kenneth Allard (USA, Retired)

Mr. Jed Babbin AF Form er JAG)

Ma or Robert S. Bevelac ua SA Retired)

Admiral Dennis C. Blair (USN, Retired)PresidentInstitute for Defense Analyses4850 Mark Center DriveAlexand ria, Virginia 223 11-1882

Lieutenant General Frank B. Campbell (USAF, Retired)Vice President for Advanced ConceptsLockheed MartinFlint Hill One, Suite 60010530 Rosehaven StreetFai rfax, Virginia 22030

Dr. James Jay Carafano (LTC, USA, Retired)Senior FellowThe Heritage Foundation214 Massachusetts Avenue, NEWashington, DC 20002

Lieutenant Colonel Bill Cowan (USMC, Retired)PresidentWVC3 Group, Incorporated1800 Alexander Bell DriveReston, Virginia 201 91

Major Dana R. Dillon (USA, Retired)Heritage Foundation2 14 Massachusetts Avenue, NEWashington, DC 20002

General Wa e A. Downin

Colonel (Tim) 1. Eads (USA, Retired)Blackbird Technologies, Incorporated13900 Lincoln Park Drive, Suite 400Herndon, Virginia 20171

General Ronald Fo elman (USAF, Retired)

ieutenlllllJJ.l~o.ne ckOI

c a (USAF, Retired)

Colonel John Garrett (USMC, Retired)PartnerPatton Boggs, LLP2550 M Street, NWWashington, DC 20037

Lieutenant General Buster Glosson (USAF, Retired)Eagle Limited4201 Congress Street, Suite 240Char lotte, North Carolina 28209

Brigadier General David L.Grange (USA, Retired)Executive Vice President and Chief Operating OfficerMcCormickTribune Foundation435 North Michigan Avenue, Suite 770Chicago, Illinois 60611

Command SergeantMajor Steven Greer (USA, Retired)The Steven J. Greer Foundation

Colonel Jack Jacobs (USA, Retired'.,..,-

Admiral David E. Jeremiah (USN, Retired)Partner and PresidentTechnology Strategies & Alliances Corporation5242 Lyngate CourtBurke, Virginia 22015

General Gear e Joulwan SA Retired)

General William F. "Buck" Kernan (uSA, Retired)~"J

Colonel Glenn Lackey (USA, Retired)Operations OfficerCenter forNational Security HumanCapital ManagementU.S. Office of Personnel Management1900 E Street, NWWashington, DC 204 15

Colonel Walter P. Lan Jr. SA, Retired)

Admira l Thomas Joseph Lopez (USN, Retired)PresidentInformation Manufacturing Corporation7000 Infantry Ridge Road, Suite 200Manassas, Virginia 20109

Lieutenant Colonel Robert L. Maginnis (USA. Retired)."~

Colonel Jeff McCausland, (USA, Retired)DirectorClarke Center, Dickinson CollegeCarlisle, Pennsylvania 17013

Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney (USAF. Retired)

General Montgomery Meigs (USA, Retired)Louis A. Bantle Professor of Government and Business PolicyMaxwell School of Syracuse UniversityDepartment of Public Administration215 Eggers HallSyracuse, New York 13244

Major F. Andy Messing Jr. (USAR, Retired)National Defense Council Foundation1220 King Street, Suite 230Alexandria, Virginia 223 14

General Thomas S. Moorman, Jr. (USAF, Retired)Booz Allen Hamilton, Incorporated8283 Greensboro DriveMcLean , Virginia 22102

Major General Michael J. Nardorti, Jr. (USA, Retired)Patton Boggs, LLP2550 M Street, NWWashington, DC 20037-1350

C tain Chuck Nash SN, Retired)

General William L. Nash (USA, Retired)Senior Fellow and Director. Center for Preventive ActionCouncil on Foreign Relations1779 Massachusetts Avenue, NWWashington, DC 20036

General Glen K. Otis SA, Retired)

General Joseph Ralston (USAF, Retired)Vice ChairmanThe Cohen Group1200 19" Street, NW, Suite 400Washington, DC 20036

Lieutenant General Erv Rokke (uSAF , Retired)...

Ma or General Robert H. Scales, Jr. (USA, Retired)

General Hugh Shelton (USA, Retired)President, International OperationsM.J.C. Industries, IncorporatedOne Fountain Square, 11911 Freedom DriveReston, Virginia 20190

Maor General Donald W. Sh erd (USAF, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Carlton Sherwood (USMC, Retired)

Major General Perry Smith (USAF, Retired)

Captain Martin L. Strong (USN, Ret ired)Chief Executive OfficerGuardian Group International1028 Jeanett WayBel Ai r, Maryland 21014

Lieutenant General Bernard Trainor(USMC. Retired)Directorof National Security Programs101m F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University80 Potter PondLexington, Massachusetts 0242 1

Maar General Paul E. Vallel (USA, Retired)

Colonel John Warden (USAF, Retired)PresidentVenturist, Incorporated8233 Old Federal RoadMontgo mery, Alabama 36 117 .

General Larry D. Welch (USAF, Retired)Senior FellowInstitute for Defense Analyses4850 Mark Ceoter DriveAlexandria, Virginia 22311

General Charles E. Wilhelm (USMC, Retired)Battelle1725 Jefferson Davis Highway. Suite 601Arlington , Virginia 22202

General Tom Wilkerson (USMC, Ret ired)Chief Exec utive Officer and PublisherU.S. Naval Institute291 Wood RoadAnnapolis, Maryland 21402

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Below lis t needs t o be added to t he Holiday Reception list you are working on .This lis t should be your number one priority. We a re way overdue wi t h Protocol . . .r want to see i t befor e we turn i t back in - - to include t he copies t hat people havemarked corrections/additions on.See me wi t h any que s tions .Tha nks .VIRCo l H

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RETIRED MILITARY ANALYSTS(As ofSeptember 13, 2004)

Colonel Carl Kenneth Allard (USA, Retired)

Mr. Jed Babbin AF Former JAG)

Major Robert S. Bevelacqua (USA, Retired)

Admiral Dennis C. Blair (USN, Retired)PresidentInstitute for Defense Analyses4850 Mark Center DriveAlexandria, Virginia 223 11- 1882

Lieutenant General Frank 8. Campbell (USAF, Retired)Vice President forAdvanced ConceptsLockheed MartinFlint Hill One, Suite 60010530 Rosehaven StreetFairfax, Virginia 22030

Dr. James Jay Carafano (LTC, USA, Retired)Senior FellowThe Heritage Foundation2 14 Massachusetts Avenue, NEWashington, DC 20002

Lieutenant Colonel Bill Cowan (USMC, Retired)PresidentWVC3 Group, Incorporated1800 Alexander Bell DriveReston, Virginia 20191

Major Dana R. Dillon (USA, Retired)Heritage Foundation2 14 Massachusetts Avenue, NEWashington, DC 20002

General Wa e A. Downin (USA, Retired)

Colonel (Tim) J. Eads (USA, Retired)Blackbird Technologies, Incorporated13900 Lincoln Park Drive, Suite 400Herndon, Virginia 20171

General Ronald Fogelman (USAF, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Rick Francona (USAF, Retired)....-

Colonel Jolm Garrell (USMC, Retired)PartnerPatton Boggs , LLP2550 M Street, NWWashington, DC 20037

Lieutenant General Buster Glosson (USAF, Retired)Eagle Limited4201 Congress Street, Suite 240Char lotte, North Carolina 28209

Brigadier General David L.Grange (USA, Retired)Executive Vice President and Chief Operating OfficerMcCormick Tribune Foundation435 North Michigan Avenue, Suite 770Chicago, Illinois 606 11

Command Sergeant Major Steven Greer (USA, Retired)The Steven J. Greer Foundati n

Colonel Jack Jacobs SA Reti red)

Admiral David E. Jeremiah (USN, Retired)Partner and PresidentTechnology Strategies & Alliances Corporation5242 Lyngate CourtBurke, Virginia 220 15

General Goor e Joulwan USA Retired)

General William F. " uck" Kernan SA Retired)

Colonel Glenn Lackey (USA, Retired)Operations OfficerCenter for National Security Human Capital ManagementU.S. Officeof Personnel Management1900 E Street, NWWashin gton, DC 20415

Colonel Walter P. Lao Jr. SA Retired)

Adm iral Thomas Joseph Lopez (USN, Retired)PresidentInformation Manufacturing Corporation7000 Infantry Ridge Road, Suite 200Manassas, Virginia 201 09

Lieutenant Colonel Roben L. Ma ' is (USA, Retired)

Colonel Jeff McCausland, (USA, Retired)DirectorClarke Center, Dickinson CollegeCarlisle, Pennsylvania 17013

Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney (USAF, Retired)

General Mo ntgomery Meigs (USA, Retired)Louis A. Bantle Professorof Government and Business PolicyMaxwell School of Syracuse UniversityDepartment of Public Administration215 Eggers HallSyracuse, New York 13244

Major F. And y Messing Jr. (USAR, Retired)National Defense Counci l Foundation1220 King Street, Suite 230Alexandri a, Virginia 22314

General Thomas S. Moorman, Jr. (USAF, Retired)Booz Allen Hamilton. Incorporated8283 Greensboro DriveMclean, Virginia 22102

Major General Michael J. Nardott i, Jr. (USA, Retired)Patton Boggs, LLP2550 M Street, NWWashington, DC 20037-1350

Captain Chuck Nash (USN, Retired)

General William L. Nash (USA, Retired)Senior Fellow and Director, Center forPreventive ActionCouncil on Foreign Relations1779 Massachusetts Avenue, NWWashington, DC 20036

General Glen K. Otis (USA, Retired)l(Il)

General Joseph Ralston (USAF, Retired)Vice ChairmanThe Cohen Group1200 19wStreet, NW, Suite 400Washington, DC 20036

Lieutenant General Erv Rokke SAP Retired)

Major General Robert H. Scales, Jr. (USA, Retired)

General Hugh Shelton (USA, Retired)President. International OperationsM.LC. Industries, IncorporatedOne Fountain Square, 11 911 Freedom DriveReston, Virginia 20 190

Maor General Donald W. Sh erd (USAF, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Carlton Sherwood (USMC , Retired)0'"

Ma·orGeneral Peer Smith USAF, Retired)

Captain Martin L. Strong (USN, Retired)Chief Executive OfficerGuardian Group International1028 Jeanett WayBel Air, Mary land 21014

Lieutenant General Bernard Trainor (USMC, Retired)Directorof National Security ProgramsJohn F. Kennedy School of Govemment, Harvard University80 Potter PondLexington, Massachusetts 02421

.!lll.~<;\ ''il!',1oU"'~''''-I~1" Iy (USA, Retired)

Colonel John Warden (USAF, Retired)PresidentVenturist, Incorporated8233 Old Federal RoadMontgomery, Alabama 361 17

General Larry D. Welch (USAF, Retired)SeniorFellowInstitute for Defense Analyses4850 Mark Center DriveAlexandria, Virginia 2231 1

General Charles E. Wilhelm (USMC, Retired)Battelle1725 Jefferson Davis Highway, Suite 601Arlington, Virginia 22202

General Tom Wilkerson (USMC, Retired)Chief Executive Officer and PublisherU.S. Navallnstitute291 Wood RoadAnnapolis, Mary land 21402

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OCJCSIPA; Whitman, Bryan, SES, OASD-PA ASD-PA; Merritt, Roxie T.CAPT, OASD-PA; Thorp, Frank, CAPT, OCJCS/PA; Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCSIPAFW: CONFERENCE CAl l SATURDAY MORNING !!!!

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>>participanes i n this conference call will be Li e u t e na nt General Th omas Metz , III Corps .Your hos t fo r this call wi l l be Colone l Archie Davis .>

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May wa nt to d i a l i n if you can.Gen Me tz on background wi th t he Ret i r ed Military Analysts Sat 6Nov 0800-0900 Ph numbersbe l ow.VI RKatie

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>Cate: Nove mber 5 , 200 4>>Re: Conference Cal l with Sen i or DoD Of ficial>>We invite you to participa te in a conference call, Saturday, November 6, 2004 f r om S:OOAM to 9:00 AM.>>Top i c smessage

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>>Pa r t i c i pa nts i n this conference call wi ll be Lieutenant Genera l Thomas Me tz , II I Corps.Your hos t for this call will be Colonel Archie Dav is .>>To participate in this conferenc e call , please dial or ~ anda s k the operat or to connec t you to the Military Ana lysts conf e r ence call.>

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i:- o-JILCDR, OCJCSIPA; Maj , OCJCS/PA; Haddock, Ellen(Katie), Col, OCJCSIPA L.. .....FW: Military Analysts Conference Call

Ma' am ,No t e the time - - I was thinking in Baghdad t i me .

> - - - - -origina l Message - - - -->Fr om: Da v i s , Archie , Col , OASD-PA>Sent: Frid ay , Nove mber 19 , 200 4 8 : 41 AM>To: Whitman B a n SES, OASD- PAj Merri t t Roxie T.OASD-PAj LTC OASD- PA; LTC,OASD-PA>Subj e c t: Mi l i t a ry Ana l y sts Co n f e r e nc e Call,>Al l :,>The c a ll-in information f o r the mili t a ry ana l ysts conference c a l l i s :,,,>We i nv i t e you t o pa r t ic i p ate in a confe renc e c a ll , Satu r day, No vember 2 0 , 200 4 from 8:30a m to 9 : 3 0 a . m. e s t .,>Top i c s to be d i scus s ed are : Ope r a tio na l Update o n Iraq .,>Participants i n thi s confe rence c a l l will be General Tho mas Me tz . Your ho s t f o r thiscall wi ll be Colone l Archie Dav is.,>To par tic ipate i n this c o nf e r enc e call , p lea s e dia l o r a nda s k the operator to conne c t yo u to the Mi l ita r y Ana lys t s con f e renc e c a ll .,,, VR,,>Ar c h i e,>Co l o ne l Arc hie Dav i s>Di r e c t o r>Commu n i t y Relat i o ns & Public Liai s o n

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Haddock, Enen (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PAFriday, November 19, 2004 11:54 AMTho Frank CAPT, OCJCSIPA _ ....__...,

Maj, OCJCSlPA; LCDR, OCJCSlPAF : Military Analysts Conference Call

t h e operator to connect you t o the

Cap t Tho rp ,Ther e is a mi li t a ry a nalysts c o n f e r e nce call t omorro w a . m. -- Sa t , from 0830 t o 093 0 -wi t h Gen Metz .Dial i n i nfo fol l ows .

Th oug h t y o u mi ht be intereste:~d~i~n="~i:.:t:e:n:":' n:. i n . ..p lease d i a l o r and a s kMilitary Ana y s ts con f ere nce caVI RKatie> -----Or i g inal Mes sa e- - - - ->Fr o m: TC OASD- PA>Se nt: Frida November 19 , 2 004>To: LCDR , OCJ CS! PA; Maj , OCJ CS! PA; Haddo c k , Elle n(Kat ie). Col , OCJCS!PA ....------.....>Subj e ct : FW : Mi litary Analys ts Co nfe r e nce Cal l>>Ma ' a m,>Note the time --I was th i nking i n Baghdad t i me .>v!r

> -----Ori g i nal Me s sage- - - - ->Fr om: Dav i s , Ar c hie , Col , OASD-PA>Se nt: Friday , Novembe r 19, 200 4 8 : 41 AM>To : Whitman B a n SES, OASD- PA; M,.e~r~r~i~+-fl'oill.ie T. CAPT, OAS~D~-~P~A~'J-- ,I Col,OASD- PA; LTC OASD- PAi LTC, OASD- PA; Lt Co l ,OASD- PA>Subjec t : Mil i t ary Analys t s Confere n c e Ca l l>>AI I :>>Th e cal l -in i nfor ma tion for t he military a naly sts confe r e nce call is :>>>>We i nv i t e y o u t o pa r ticipate i n a conference c a l l , Saturday , Nov ember 20, 20 04 from 8 : 30a m to 9 :30 a. m. est.>

>To pi c s to be d i s c ussed a re: Ope r a t iona l update o n Iraq .>>pa r t i c i pa n t s in t his con f e r e n c e cal l wi ll be Gen e r al Thoma s Met z . Your host f or t h i scall wi l l be Co l o nel Archie Da vis .>>To pa r tic i pate i n th i s conferenc e cal l , p l e a s e dia l o r ... .... . nda sk the ope rato r t o con nec t you t o the Mil itary Ana l y sts con f e r e nc e call.>>>VR,>>Arc hie>>Co l o ne l Arch i e Dav i s>Di rec t o r>Commun i ty Rela tions & Publ ic Liai s on

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PAFriday, November 19 2 04 6:00 PM'frank.thorpFW: Military Analysts Conference Call

capt Thorp ,Be l ow info prov ide d fo r tomorrow 's confer e nce ca l l.

p lans to call in t oo , j us t as a bac k - up .V RKatie

> -----origina l Mess age ---- ->Fr om: Haddoc k , Elle n (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PA-se n e , Fr i da y , Nove mber 19, 2004 11:54 AM

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»cepc Tho r p,>The r e i s a mi l i t a r y anal ys ts confere nce call tomorrow a .m. - - Sa t, f r om 0830 to 0930 -wi t h Gen Met z .>Di a l i n info fo llows.

>Thoug h t you mi h t be intereste:id~'~' n: :":i:s: t: e: n: i :n:J i n ...»p Le a e e dial or a nd a s kMil ita r y Ana y s s con erenc e ca>V/R>Katie> -- ---ori gina Me s>From: LTC OASD-PA>Sent: Fr i da Nove mbe r 19, 2004 .9~, 5~9~AM:::;:~ .,>To: LCDR, OCJCS/PA ; Ma j , OCJ CS / PA; Haddock, El l en(Katie), Col , OCJCS/PA>Sub j ec t : FW : Mili tary Analys ts Confe r e nce Call>>Ma ' am,>Not e the t i me - - I wa s th i nking i n Baghda d t i me .>

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>:> -----Ori g inal Message----->From : Da v i s , Archie , Col, OASD-PA>Sent : Friday , Nove mbe r 1 9, 2004 8 : 41 AM:>To: Whi tma n, Br an , SES, OASD-PA; Me r ri t t Roxie T . CAPT, OAS~D~-~P~A"'~CC cIOASD - PA; ~ LTC OASD-PA; LTC, OASD-PAiOASD- PA L. ~

>Subject : Mi lita ry Analyst s Con fere nce Ca l l>>AIl :>>The c all-in information f o r the military ana lysts c o nfe renc e call is :>

>>>We i nvi t e you to participate in a con f ere nce c a l l , Saturday, Nove mbe r 20 , 2004 from 8:30a m to 9 :3 0 a. m. e s t .>>Topics t o be discusse d a re : Ope ra t i ona l Upda te o n I raq.>>Participa n t s i n this confe rence c a ll wi l l be General Thomas Me t z . Your host f o r t h i sc a l l will be Colonel Archie Dav i s .>>To participate in this conference call , p lea se d ia l or .. ~ and1 1- ......

a s k the opera t or to conne ct yo u t o t he Mi l i t ary Ana lys t s conf e r ence ca l l.,,, VR ,,>Ar ch i e,>Colone l Arch i e Dav i s::oDirec t or>Commun i tv Rel ations & Publ ic Li a i s on

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Oi Rita, Larry, CIV, OSD·OASD-PAMonday, December 13, 2004 8:37 AMW hitman, Bryan, SES, OASD-PA; Brooks, Vincent K BG OCPARhynedance, George, COL, OASD-PA; Barber, Allison, CIV, OASD-PA; Haddock, Ellen(Katie), Col, OCJCSIPA

we ought to t hink abou t a round t able with mil i t ary ana l y s t s tha t v cjcs , secarmy . and l t genb lum can d o toda y to p u t this whole a rmor/ng issue i n t o better pe r s pect i v e .

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCSJPAMonda , December 13, 2004 8:41 AM

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Heads ·up .I'm o n my way t o a meeting at OSC PA... can ' t figure out if we 're supposed t o do t he r oundtable today , o r th i n k about it today.I should know more wh e n I return .Vi RKat ie

> - ----Or i g i nal Message - - - - ->From : Di Ri ta , Larry, CI V, OSO-OASO- PA>Sent : Monday , December 13 , 2 0 04 8:37 AM>To: Whitman, Bryan, SBS , OASO-PA ; Brooks , vinc ent K BG OCPA>Cc: Rhynedance , Ge orge , COL, OASD-PA; Barber, Al lison , CIV, OASD- PA; Haddock, Bllen(Katie ), Col , OCJ CS/ PA>Subj e c t :>>we ought to think abou t a roundtable wi t h military analysts that v cj c s , secarmy, andl t gen blum can do t oday to put this whole armor /ng issue i n t o better perspective.>>

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCSfPAMonday, December 13, 20041 0:16 AMRhynedance, George, COL, OASD·PABarber, Allison, CIV, OASD-PA; CDR,OCJCSIPA;L ..LCDR,OCJCSfPA; Maj, OCJCSIPARE: One Pager Meeting · Tactics for Abizaid/Casey

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I 'll be a t the 1030 One -Pager mt g ; others from this office (a nd J3 ) will cover the 1100 onrotation noti fication.

Also , I ha ve TENTATIVELY marked Gen Pace 's calendar fo r a military a na l ysts ' conf callthis afternoon at 16 45 -1115. Included 1630-1645 prep; no t s ure if Gen Bl um and / or GenSchoomaker will be available , or i f there would be i n t ere st i n s ome " c ombi ne d " prep time .Sorry it 's late, but t ha t ' s the best I c ould do wi t h t he general's schedule.Vi RKatie

CIV, OSO;

> -- - - -original Mess age - - - - ->From: Rhynedance , George, COL , OASD-PA>Sent: Monday , December 13 , 2004 9 :41 AM

>To: Ru f f , Er i c , SES , OASD-PA; Ba r be r , All ison, CI V, OASD-PA ; ~i7~~:-::~::~~~~::~~Whitman , B an SBS OASD-PA; Haddock , El len (Ka tie), Col , OC~~S PA>Cc : Ca t . USMC OASO- PA; Rhynedance , George , COL , OASO-PA;SFC, OASO-PA; ~ CI V, OASD-PA ~------------..>Subject: One Pager Meeting - Tac t ics for Abizaid / Case y>>Could we meet at 10 30 7 Wou ld like t o us e the Press Ops c o n f e r e nc e room s i nce LD has anappoin tment at that time. Mr . Ruff has the lead for the me e t ing a nd wil l c hair same.Sugg e st each o f you come with some t ho ught s o n the t a c tic s we could employ f o r Abizaid andCa s e y next wee k . . . . If t he press ops c onf r oom is busy, migh t we be ab l e to meet i n Ms.Ba rbe r ' s o f fice? Tha nks , please l et me know i f yo u c a n come .>>Kati e Hadd o c ks ub . . . .>>GR>>

given your me e t i ng schedule this mo r n i ng , p l e a se fe e l free to send a

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCSfPA

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JCs/P )(I) CIV. JCS VCJCS L.. .....FW: CONF CALL TODAY 4:45 PM

I'll bring this to the prep, but didn't know i f Gen Pace would appreciate this seedearlier than that -- or i f he would have t i me t o r ead it. Gen Meigs is usually on t he s eMilitary Analysts' conference calls, and he has some rathe r specific d i s cus s ion items onArmored vehicles .. . h i s email follows.ViRKatie

-----original Message-- ---Fr om: Montgomery Meigs (mailto:mcmei g s ,.... ..Sent : Monda December 1 3 , 2004 1 1 : 54 AMTo: CIV OASD-PASubject: RE: CONF CALL TODAY 4:4 5 PM

I 'm still working my schedule.

The issue s ti ll not addressed by OSD remains the tradeoffs made by the Army on whe re i texpended i t' s investments on new gear . As you a l l know, Gen 5choomaker has done at remendous job o f getting the newe s t, be s t gear out to t he t roops. But t he r e' s neve renough money to go around. So I 'm sur e t he r e were reasonable tradeoff s made as to what tobuy on t he ma r gin. I ' m also not sure t he Army knew tha t t he company involved had ext r acapaci ty. Remember, the people who do the cont r acting often don 't communica t e t ho s e kindso f t hings t o t he operators a s a mat ter of procedure.

I' d als o be i nterested in knowi ng whe t her young t rooper Wils on, a scout , had a n armoredHumme r . As a scout he s hould have and I s uspec t hi s uni t does ha ve them, and if so, hewas not d i gg ing in l and f i l l s and was put up t o the question by t he reporter who wasobserving - most l i ke l y - people f rom truck units l ooki ng f or ext ra p r ot ection . I can 'tthi nk of a t ime other than with "gun t r uc ks " i n Vie t Nam t ha t we armored 2 1/2 and 5 tont rucks . There may be a point o f explanation the r e t ha t ca n be he l pful.

As you know t here is an ethi ca l i s sue her e a s well. As a mat te r o f professional e thic s ,repo r t e r s a re no t supposed to i ns e r t thems e l ve s in the news . Cl earl y that happened int h i s case. Not something one can argue i n t he hea t o f the initial days o f the s t ory , buta cons ideration none theless .

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Should I put you on the part icipants list?

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Colone l Arch i e Davi sDi recto r , Community Re lations and Public Af fa irsOf f ice of the Secretary o f Def ense

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Conf ere nc e Ca l l wi th Senior DoD Of f icials

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Col. Lynn Callyer and Military Analysts

December 13, 2004

HOST COLONEL ARCHIE DAVIS: It is my privilege to introduce you to the groupthat will be speaking with us today. We 've got General Pace, Vice Chairman, JointChiefs of Staff. We have General Sorenson, Deputy for Acquisition SystemsManagement, Army Secretary. And then we have Colonel Callyer from Army G8.Gentlemen , one change in the way we normally do these type things. Today thediscussion is on the record. It' s on the record gentlemen. With that I'll pass the mike toGeneral Pace for opening statement and then after that we will take your questions.General Pace, please sir.

GENERAL PACE: Thanks very much and thanks everybody for taking time to be onthe phone call. I just wanted to make myself available along the guys here from theArmy to try to put some things in context and answer your questions. Basically we'vegot a challenge in Iraq with regard to force protection for our soldiers and our marinesthat balances both, I guess the equipment that we have available to them and the tacticsthat we employ with that equipment. You take the equipmen t side, going from mostprotected to least protected, you can put people in tanks or Bradley 's or up-armoredhumvees or thin-skinned humvees or walking the streets in flack jacket and helmet orwalking the street without flack jacket and helmet. And on the high end the moreprotected you are the more isolated you are from the civilian populace, and on the lowend the less protected you are the less isolated you are. That's the science part, of course,as you all know the art is to try to figure out where you ought to be on that spectrum ofprotection so you can get both protection for your troops and the most influence with thepopulation. But you sure don' t want a heavy footprint or an oppressive footprint.

So about May-June of2003, after the major combat operations, we went to about a 1/3armored; 2/3rd wheeled vehicle mix and were out in the light-skinned humvees and endedup with a thinking enemy. Then around the Octobe r-November timeframe in 2003started really employing lED's and VB-lED's in a heavy way. Which caused thecommanders on the ground to reassess how they were employing their troops. Took thecommanders desired armored vehicles from about 2,000 in the June-July timeframe up toabout 15,000 required in around the November timeframe and since that time it hasramped up to about doub le that number. So as we've gone through the series of attackson our troops and we 've seen the usefulness, especially the up-armored humvee becauseit' s about small enough not to be an oppressive type vehicle but it' s substantial enough toprotect the troops. You've seen that shift in emphasis. There are basically three levels ofprotection or three ways of getting to that level of protection. One is the factory installed.

You buy the up-armored hunw ee and it arri ves in theater built and ready to go. Thesecond is the humvees in theater and you buy the add-o n kits from the manufacturers andapply those to the vehicles in theater. And the third is the folks in theater doing whatgood so ld iers and Marines do which is putting on locall y fabricated protecti on. to be ableto fill in the gap while industry ramps up.

We have do ne a lot procurement wise, there is a lot more we need to do. Right nowwe've got a little bit over 15,000 armored vehic les in theater. By the end of January wewill have prohably about 22,000 and by the end of March probably have about 28,000.Which is a very heal thy application of money and industry. We spent abo ut $ 1.2 billionso far on increases to armored protection and there is another $2 .4 bill ion to be spent toround out the protective requirements over there righ t now.

The Secretary of the Army has stood up two task forces. One, again on the equipmentside, is looking at every part of the continuum with the manufacturers to see if we can ' trun a litt le bit faster, j ump a little bit higher. to get the proper equi pment to the troopsfaste r. And the other one that was stood up around last October when the rED prob lemstarted to mani fests itself and that is what is called the rED Task Force. It is a side of theequation that deals wi th the tactics. techniques and procedures that capture the data fromthe attacks on our forces with these weapo ns. Analyze the results of those attacks , sharethe information in theater immedi ately and then se nd it back here to the states where theArmy Task Force can work on it and prepare new tact ics, techniques and procedures andtry them out, out in the desert in Ca lifornia to see what wo rks best.

One more thing then I' ll stop talking at you and start listenin g and that is on interceptivebod y armor part, I think you all know that that was a state of the art piece of equipmentwhen we started the war. it worked exceptionally well. We were producin g about 1,200sets per month . We are now producing 25.000 sets per month . Everybody in theCENTCOM theater of operations, all U.S. military , all U.S. go vernment employees, havea set of this protective gear and the Army will co ntinue to bu y these at the rate of 25,OOOa month until we' ve got the Anny and Marine Corp completely outfitted. Let me stopthere and turn this back to our moderator.

CO L ONEL DAVIS: Sir, would you have comments that you' d like to make or wouldyou like to go into qu estions?

GE NERAL SORENSON: Just let me put a couple of other sound bites on there which Ithink, j ust to fo llow on to what General Pace said and that was I think it 's noteworthy thatover the last fourteen months as General Pace says we have begun to j ust the armoringcapability there. Thi s nation has armored over 20.000 vehicles, which is so mething Ithink if you loo k at the context of what other nations or other armies could have done.Probably unparalleled . The second thing is, as he relates to the Task Force , already weare beginn ing to work with acceleration of deliveri es ofcapabilities for the FM TV.which is the fami ly of medium tactical vehicles and some ofour heavier fleets as well, toaccelerate some of that capability into theater. But clearly as has been mentioned be fore.the focus initially from the theater was to make sure that we could up-armor the light

skinned vehicles, specifically the humvees, because those were more in harms way andwe have now shifted that focus because of where we are with up-armoring the vehicles,both the vehicles in-country with armor as well as the delivery of up-armored hurnveesfrom the factory as well as from other major commands, as well as other services. Weare now shifting that focus to the medium and heavy truck fleet and attempting to getthose fleets up-armored here within the early springtime.

COLONEL DAVIS: Ok gentlemen, with that we will take your questions at this time.

KEN ALLARD: General Sorenson, this is Ken Allard . I am curious as to whatroadblocks you are finding right now in the procurement process and where they exist. Isit in the procurement system, the funding system or in industry itself?

GENERAL SORENSON: Well when you say roadblocks I'm not sure specificallywhat.. .

KEN ALLARD: Constraints. Bad term was roadblocks. Constraints.

GENERAL SORENSON: WeUI think at this point in time we have been able to workwith not only the Arm y but the OSD staff, as well as with the Hill in getting the fundingthat we need. We have had some difficulties in some cases, I can go back into oneparticular design, whereby when the requirement came in we didn 't have a design for oneof these particular vehicles. We built the design, then we found we had some qualitycontrol problems, we had to go back and fix it. But the long poles in the tent have clearlybeen getting steel. We now have three steel manufacturers that are producing the steel.We have all the depots basically producing these kits, as well as manufacturers, so fromthe standpoint of constraints or roadblocks at this point in time I would say that if therewas a roadblock we have certainly busted through it at this point in time.

PAUL VALLELY: Can you talk a little more in depth on some of the tactics,unclassified basis, that we're able to use over there now since October 2003?

COLONEL DAVIS: Vallely, who would you like to address your question?

PAUL VALLELY: Well anyone that can answer. You know cell phone triangulation,over head surveillance, convoy protection, anything that we could use that would give usa little more definitive on the force protection and tactics that we ' re using.

GENERAL PACE: Paul, this is Pete Pace. Let me try in an unclassified mode toanswer that and then I'll ask the guys here from the Army too, if they've got anythingthey want to add. Clearly we have some tactical means available to determine wherelED 's may be and some technical means available to try to get those things to function ornot function when they are not suppose to. A lot of time and effort put intounderstanding the changing tactics of the enemy employing them. First it was one lEDand then they would put that in place and we would change our tactics so they put inmore and then as we responded to that they have another one go ofT. So it's very much a

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force vs. force thinking process. I wo uld not want to get into the details of exactly howwe are doing it right now because again, it will change what the other guys do and thenwe will have to change again.

GENERAL SORENSON: Sir, the only thing I would say from the Army standpoint,we've tried to take a holistic look at this. Clearly we've talked about the annoring butthat's on ly one piece of it. We've also tried to use some other pieces of sop histicatedequipment to preclude the detonation of those systems. As well as we within everyparticular incident have an after act ion report. As General Pace mentioned before, youhave the lED Task Force over there and they clearly go back and look at specificallywhat happened and report hack. And then we introduce that immediately into ourtraining within less than 24 hours . So the TIP's in terms of the tactics, techniques andprocedures are updated on a continuous basis.

DON SHEPPARD: I' m trying to follow General Pace's numbers here. 15,000 now,22,000 end of January, 28,000 by the end ofMarch. We heard in repo rts after theSecpef's town meeting of450 vehicles a month. I assume that was probably justhumvees being updated by another hundred or so. So my question is.... Can we rea llyreach these numbers and how much of this was already in progress and afail accomplibefore the stuff over this town hall meeting.

GE NERAL PACE: I' ll give you what I know and then I' ll ask for backup from theArmy guys. You are absolute ly right, the 450 has to do speci fically with the up-armoredhumvees. When we started this, they were producing at 35 a month. Over time it hasramped up to 450 a month. Every time we've gone forward to Congress with a requestfor money, they have provided it. So fundi ng has not been an issue. There was a little bitof a surprise last week when the manufacturer said that they could produce another 100per month than we thought they could. With inside of that same day that themanufacturer said that they could go from 450 to 550 the Army changed, modified thecontract which, if you know procedures around this place, changing a contract inside ofone day is kind of unusual. So the manufacturer now would be, with the funding toproduce that extra 100 per month, is tell ing us now that they will be able to actually startproviding those extra 100 a month in Apri l of next year. So it ' s not like you can j ust turna swi tch and have these things pour forth. In all the other vehicles there is somethinglike, ohhh, give or take, 32,000 plus vehicles in Iraq right now. The numbers I told youabo ut are things that are doable right now thanks to all the work that has been done forthe last year plus and also in the last week or so going back one more time and scrubbingall the industry counterparts we had to see what might be bro ught forward faster. Again,remembering the continuum we are on, part of this challenge is to have the rightequipment, the other part is to have the right tact ics. So we shouldn' t lay all this off onindustry providing us X number of armored veh icles. It has to do with how thecommanders in the fie ld take the resources that we are able to provide to them and howwe use it in a tactical world. So it' s both sides of the equat ion.

DON SHEPPARD: And j ust a follow on to that, how would you characterize, when yousay 28,000 out of32,000 are armored vehicles and of course you still going to see them

blown up on TV for reasons we understand, how would you characterize that armor forpublic consumption.

GENERAL PACE: What do you mean by characterize. I'm sorry.

DON SHEPPARD: So the public thinks ifwe bave 28,000 armored vehicles that thereis going to be a heck of a lot less explosions and people killed and trucks blown up andthat's really not necessarily the case . How should we characterize the levels of protectionwithin 28,000 vehicles. Some level ofprotection, some level of armor, small arms, etc.not all like the up-armored humvees?

GENERAL PACE: I would say that this armor will certainly protect our soldiers andMarines from small anns. It will protect them from some of the lED 's kind, for exampleuse of artillery rounds, but clearly you can build a big enough bomb to blow up a tank, oranything else we have and that ' s why we have to be care ful not to have the Americanpublic thinking that there is a tactical armor solution that we can put PFC Pace inside ofsome kind of cocoon that ' s going to protect him from everything. Clearly we cannot.Flackjackets and helmets protect us from some level of violence, tanks protect us fromanother level of violence but you gentlemen all know it is a continuum out there and athinking enemy that can provide a pretty good sized blast in any particular place at onetime. So we are doing what we should do to provide the level ofprotection that we knowprovides an added measure of security for our guys without going to the point where wehave everybody riding around inside their own tank and we cannot do the job that wewere sent over to do . Which is not only to defeat the enemy but also to help the populaceget on to their next lives.

COLONEL DAVIS: Are there any other questions out there.

JED BABBIN: General, Jed Babbin. Some of the people I' ve been up against on thenews lately have been basically saying that Mr. Rumsfeld has been ignoring this problemsince last August. Can you give us a timeline as to really how this burbled up through thesystem and when it was identified as·a major problem and what was done. Basically inrelation to that.

GENERAL PACE: Sure, I mean this is totally inaccurate to say that about theSecretary. As I mentioned, the commanders in the field, and I agreed with them, believethat in the June-July 2003 timeframe that the amount of annor that we had over there andthe numb ers of vehicles we had were sufficient to be able to provide security but also tobe able to interact with the populace. And then as I mentioned, the thinking enemy, inthe October-November timeframe of 2003, started using lED's and VB-lED 's veryaggressively. When that happened, the commanders on the ground increased theirrequest from the level that it was at, which was about 2,000 armored vehicles, jumping itup to 15,000 inside the space of about a month, once they realized that they needed tochange our tactics, techniques and procedures. When we did that, it was at a time whenthe industry, for just one example, industry was producing about 35 to 40 up-armoredhumvees per month . We went to Congress, got the money to increase. I think it was the

first step went up to about 220 and over time we've gotten up to about 450, as theindustry has been able to ramp up their capacity to build more for us. So for at least thelast year the Army Task Force, the lED Task Force and the procurement process has beenworking on this to provide the right solutions. And every time we've gone to theSecretary with a new request for added armor. and shown him the bill for it, he has beenvery quick to insure that we have what we needed and has supported us very rapidly withCongress. And Congress has given us the money we've asked for, so outside those of usin uniform who has anything to do with leadership/providing resources to us has done itas quickly as we 've asked for it. Within a capacity. Industry takes time to ramp up. Asyou all know.

KEN ALLARD: General Pace, Goldwater Nichols gave you as the Vice Chairman ofthe Joint Chiefs a lot of acquisition responsibilities and I know that you use thoseauthorities quite aggressively. My question really is while I am a great fan of steel asopposed to anything else, are we limited simply to the existing technologies forprotecting these vehicles or are you looking at anything else? Possibly the moreaggressive use of Kevlar or some substitute for steel?

GENERAL PACE: Alright, the short answer is yes. You are right on the money, youknow there are some Kevlar applique' s out there that pound for pound are really verystrong. We are looking at those. Let my Anny counterpart, who is in that business,answer the specifics, but clearly we are out there searching for new applications of oldtechnology like Kevlar and new substances materials that will allow us to do what Kevlarhas allowed us to do so far.

GENERAL SORENSEN: Yes, again this is Jeff Sorensen. As we've talked about here,we've been really searching the entire industrial base. Up at Aberdeen proving ground,the people up there at the test conununity have tested over 1,000 different coupons whichessentially represents everything from steel to composites to composites with aluminumto everything we could find, as a way to try to get the maximum protection capability forthe vehicles. As an example, we have tested, once the coupon gets tested and issufficient, then we have them put together a kit. As an example, for the humvee, we havetested 12 different kits up there at Aberdeen. Most of them have been steel but there havebeen some composites. But I will tell you in some cases with respect to the compositeswe've had some difficulty, if you will, adhering it to the door as well with the ballisticglass. We 've had a much better success with the steel doors and the ballistic glass thenwe have here with the Kelvar solutions, though we have used the Kevlar solutions orcomposite solutions, if you will. On the back of the vehicles provide protection becausein many cases here we have a lot ofolder vehicles out there in Iraq. You can only put somuch armor on those particular vehicles after which point in time the suspension sort ofgives way . Unlike the up-armored humvee, which was combined as a system design toaccommodate a heavier transmission, a heavier suspension, heavier engine, etc. It wasbuilt from the ground up. Most of our vehicles over there in theater were the olderhumvees that we had to look at very care fully to design a package that would not onlygive the maximum force protection but also give the capability that the vehicle will

continue to operate properly. So we have looked at everything and we continue to look ateverything as we try to determine solutions for this particular problem.

KE N ALLARD: General, one follow up to that and particularly in terms of commercialtechno logies that you may not have looked at before, if we run across any of that is thereany way that we can get in touch with you. It may just be a wild screwy idea but if it canbe something that' s productive. It' s one thing to complain about this on TV, it's quiteanother to offer solutions. So how do we get in touch ifwe have something like that.

GENERAL SORENSON: I can give you my email, I can give you my phone number.I' ll leave that with Colonel Davis here.

KEN ALLARD: Super.

COLONEL DAVI S: I' ll give it to you Ken.

KEN ALLARD: Great.

GENERAL PACE: The bottom line is we really shouldn' t be collectively defensiveabout this, nor should we be collectively putting too big a smiley face on this thing. Thefact is that this is combat. We had some good things when we went in, we're learningsome lessons, we' re trying to adjust to that. The enemy does the same thing. And I think.we just need to make sure that the American public understands that their sons anddaughters are important to us. -We are going to do all we can to protect them, that hasboth a material solution and a tactic solution and we should just acknowledge where weare on the continuum and acknowledge the fact that we need to continue to press hard onthis thing to get it right.

KE N ALLARD: General Pace, I was up at MSNBC when this story broke last week andI think. that is precisely the right attitude to take on it. That it is the constant roar ofabdication. Rather than saying it' s the Army we want or the Army we don 't want, that' sreally kind of beside the point. I think that what drives a lot of people crazy is when theyhave the impression that we have not done enough. Certainly the story that is there is anentirely different one.

QUESTIONER: Is the majority of these lED's come in detonated?

GENERAL PACE: I do not know the answer to that question. And I don't know thatwe want to put that out anyway. Just because of some ofthe techniques we are usingagainst it. So if we could avoid going down that road, then it would probab ly be a goodthing to do collectively.

CHUCK NASH : General, Chuck Nash, question about the over all lesson that werelearning as wego beyond this with the armor on humvees and that is if you look at thecontinuum of the regular humvees, the up-armored humvees, Stryker, Bradley, Abrams,you know you've got a continuum there of protection you addressed earlier, how are the

lessons that we are learning now, as you look ahead and some of the things that we areplanning on buying and planning on doing, how many degrees has the rudder changed,what have we learned from this?

GENERAL PACE : Don't know if! can answer it in degrees of mdder, I can tell youthat last Friday and Saturday and again today sitting down with the Secretary ofthe Armyand the Chief of Staffof the Army, and various meetings about budgets andsupplementals and the like, that very much a part of the discussion is as we lay out theFY2006 budget submission, have we in fact properly identified the changes that areneeded in the budget to reflect the lessons learned without overcompensating and fixatingon one piece of our armed forces, if I can say it like that, so find the right balance.Clearly inside of today's understood requirement, the funding is there. But as we look to,as the Army modularizes it' s brigades, Pete Schoomaker and his folks, are looking at theright mix of vehicles and armored protection for those, partially based on what we arelearning in Iraq and Afghan istan, and partially based on what we think the emergingthreat will be in the future.

CHUCK NASH: If! could, a quick follow up. One of the criticisms that I've heard isthat the Marines are taking higher casualties because they don 't have the armor that theArmy has. Is that a fair criticism?

GENERAL PACE: I don 't think so. The numbers that I know about for the Marinesand I refreshed myself on this last week, is that the Marines have 4,100 wheeled vehiclesin Iraq right now and all of them have either level one, two or three protection right nowas we speak. So to my know ledge, thanks to lessons learned by the Army, shared withthe Marines before the Marines went back in theater this time, as the Marines came backinto theater they were able to arrive either already with the new armor on the vehicles orto put in on in Kuwait before they went in. I know they do have a small number ofvehicles that don 't have armor and those are the ones they use inside the base camp.

COLONEL DAVIS: Sir, how we doing on time? One more question. Gentlemen, wehave time for one more question.

COLONEL DAVIS: Any wrap up gentlemen?

GENERAL SORENSEN: One thing that I would just like to add up to what GeneralPace was talking about with the future. I will just tell you, again, this is Jeff Sorensenfrom the Science and Technology base, we are looking at other solutions such as activeprotection systems and so forth to defeat these type of capabilities. And clearly at thispoint in time there has been more of a focus on that as far as lessons learned as we beginto design the future combat system and see what we are going to do there as well as withStryker. So that clearly in terms of lessons learned the Science and Technology base hashad an additional focus for elements of how to make sure these vehicles can be protectedin open combat.

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GENERAL PACE: And again, let me just say thanks to all of you and your time. Iknow that your time is valuable and the opportunity to share some ideas with you so thatwhen you go out and do what you do you have at least the best info we can give you, it' svery beneficial to us and we appreciate it.

COLONEL DAVIS: General Pace, General Sorensen, gentlemen thank you very muchfor taking the time. Before we close we have one announcement.

COLONEL CURTIN: Hi I'm Colonel Joe Curtin, Army Public Affairs, on Wednesdaymorning at 0800 there will be a Press Briefing on wheeled vehicle strategy in which weare going to go into some detail with Major General Speakes and supported by GeneralSorensen to address the way ahead. I invite you to be there and if not, tell your primarymedia representatives for your networks to please attend.

COLONEL DAVIS: Thank you very much. Again, this entire discussion is on therecord.

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Gen.George Casey, commander of Multi-NationalForce-Iraq, briefed the Pentagon press corps onThursday about the situation ~ iraq and the outlook for progress. Gen. Casey said the Coalition and thenew Iraqi governmenl are broadly on track toaccompiish their objectives - a OOI1slitutionaily electedgovenment and security forces capableof maintaining domestic order and denying Iraq as a safehavenforIeml(. Following are highiights.

FightingtheInsurgents.• tt has been slx months since the transition 10 sovereignty in Iraq. Commanders have reviewed the plan

they shaped in Augusl to help bring Iraq through itsconstitutional elections inDecember 2005. Theassessmenl isthe plan isbroadlyon track.

• One keyelementof the plan was to eliminate safehavens where the insurgents gather to planandoperate. With the iiberation ofFallujah, the insurgentsno longer have a salehavon inIraq where theycan plol and carry out theroperabons. They must look over their shouldersnow.

• In 14 of the 18 provinces. there are fewer than four violent incidents a day.

• The insurgents are toughenemies - but theyare not 10 feet tall. These same people have beenoppressing the Iraqipeople for 30years. They offer no alternative positive vision for Iraq - so they areforced use intimidationtoget their way. Theycannotsustain this.

Iraqi security forces are growing stronger.• Progressively more security forces were involved and activelywerljng with Coalitionforcesineach of

the recent majoroperations - Najaf, Samarra and FaJiujah.

• InFallujah, thereweretwo brigades fighting- and theyperformed well. Now there isan Iraqi DivisionHeadquarters in Fallujah controlling the two brigades, whichis the first time an Iraqi DivisionHeadquarters hasbeeninthe fieldsince the war.

• In Najaf, where the Mahdi militia were killingand terrorizing, the city is quiet. Najafis anexampleof thepositive change thatcantake place once Iraqisare liberated from the insurgents' tyranny. Nowthegovernor andthe Iraqi Security Forces are in charge.

Iraqi security forces are being trained and coming on line.• ByFebruary there will be 70 battalions in the Iraqi army, including a mechanized infantry battalion.

• Iraqi division commanders have recently been appointed. Coalition forcesare wor1<. ing with them tobuild theirheadquarters and forces capableof independent operations. These leaders will be critical toconducting independent counter-insurgency efforts because they will help gamer the intelligence,shpae the plans and direct the operations.

• Training the police isa longer-leon project. but good progress is being made, especiallywith the specialpolice battalions. By Februal)' there will be ~x publicOlder battalions, aspecial policeregiment, foorpolice commando battalions and nine reg'lnal SWATteams - each of which will helplight insurgentsand terrorists on aday-to-day basis.

Reconstruction momentum is bUilding.• InJune. the month Iraq transilioned to sovereignty, there were 230 projects from the Iraq

Reconstruction Fund onthe ground awming dirt.·

• By the end ofNovember there were more than 1,000 projects - adding uptomore than $3 billion intothe Iraqi economy.

• Reconstruction ismoving forward despite the insurgents' attempts todisrupt this progress.

The Iraqi people broadly accept theirgovernment and their security forces.• Some polls show an approval rating higher than 70percent.

• Iraqishave apositive viewoftheir army and their new police force.

• Sixty percentof Iraqis think their counlly ~ headed inthe rightelection.

Elections areon track for January 30th.• Insurgents are trying tocreate a security situation that makes people believe elections are not possible.

The insurgents are desperate - theyknow they are going tobe relegated toa very different position.

• The registration process has gone forward in most of the country, though there were some incidents upnorth and west inAI Anbar province. The election committee iswor1<:ing on alternatives for these twoareas.

• Commanders expect insurgents to operate ina more classic insurgent mode, with attacks insmallnumbers. Insurgents may IIy tomake some high profile attacks before the election. The CoalitionandIraqi forces are preparing for this.

• In general, the role ofthe Coalltion forces during the elections will be toconduct broad-based security.The Iraqi security forces will work the specifics ofthe polling areas.

• There will be somewhere between 6,000 and 9,000 polling places. Guarding the sites won't always bedone atthe site - Coalition and Iraqi security forces have a range ofoptions, such as controlling traffICaround the site and restricting access.The goal is reducethe exposure ofthe sites rather than have 2030 security forces huddlearound each polling place.

• The insurgentsdon't want the Sunnis to participate inthe elections, because they can then claim theelection was invalid. Commanders are optimistic that there will be sufficient Sunni participation.

Success in Iraq is atribute to thetroops.• The sokl iers, sailors, airmenand Marines who have died in Iraq gave their lives tohelp 25 million Iraq is

build better lives and to improve the security of theUnited States and the Coalition.

• We grieve with their families, and with the families ofall the Coalition and Iraqi security forces whomade the ultimatesacrifice.

• The nation isgrateful for the troopswho fight around the world todefeat terrorism and replace it withfreedom.

Published by the U.S. Department of Defense Office of Public Affairs

CONFERENCE CALL OF 12-16-04Retired Military Analysts

&General George Casey

Host: COLONEL ARCHIE DAVIS: Gentlemen, Colonel Davis here from OSD PublicAffairs . Thank you for joining us this afternoon. It is my privilege to introduce to youGenera l Casey, Commander of Mult i-National Force Iraq . General Casey has agreed tospeak with us this evening about operations in Iraq . General Casey, we lcome back to thePen tagon Sir and thank you for your time. The briefing today will be on the record. Wehave approximately 30 minu tes. General Casey will make an opening statement and afterthat he will take your questions. General Casey, the floor is yours.

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: OK I have no idea who is out there so nice to be withyou here. Oh they are handing me a list, looks like some old friends. Let me just say acouple of things and then I'll take your questions and I will be fairly brief here. I havebeen out there almost six months now, six months since transition to sovereignty. We'vejust completed our first review of the campaign plan. I think most of you know wepublished the campaign plan there in August that shaped our way forward here throughthe constitutional elections (inaudible) in December of 05. Our assessment is that we arebroadly on track in helpin g the Iraqi people get to those elections at the end of next year.And just a couple of point s I'd like to leave with you.

First of all, the insurgency we are fighting isn 't ten feet tall. They're tough guys. Theyare the same folks that have oppressed the Iraqi peop le for 30 years. But they are not,certainly not invincible. There is no single leader. They offer no alternative positivevision for Iraq. And as a result they are forced to violence to intimidate, particularly theSUJUli part of the population to support them. We've seen time and again here where thathas blown back on them . It is not sustainable for them . They also know that they can' tdefeat the coalition forces and they saw this in spades in Fallujah. And with theliberation ofFallujah there are no longer any terrorists or insurgent safe havens anywherein Iraq. And so now they don 't have a place where they can go to plan and operate andmake weapons and car bomb s with impunity. Everybody's got to be looking over theirshoulder. We think that is a significant step forward. Getting to a point where there wereno safe havens prior to the elections was one of the main elements ofour plan. Anywaythese guys aren 't 10 feet tall.

Second , the Iraqi security forces are getting stronger every day. This has been a majoreffort. Dave Petraeus' folks have done a wonderful job . By February there will be 70battal ions in the Iraqi army including a mechanized battalion. On the police side we aremaking pretty good progress with the local police. That' s a longer term project but we'vealso had good project on the special police battalions. Six public order battalions, aspecial police regiment, four commando battalions and nine regional swat teams, all ofthose guys are involved in the fight today or will be in the next month or so.

Third point I'll leave with you. Reconstruction momentum is building. When we gotthere in June there was about 230 projects from the lraq Reconstruction Fund on theground turning dirt . At the end ofNovember there is over 1000. That ' s 3 billion dollarsinto the Iraqi economy. So that is moving forward and all against insurgent efforts todisrupt and deny the ability to get on with reconstruction.

Fourth point, the government, the Iraqi government is broadly accepted. They' ve got insome polls over a 70% approval rating. The Iraqi people have a favorab le impressio n oftheir Army and their new police force. And by most polls about 60% of the Iraqi' s thinkthe country is headed in the right dir ection and they've got a positive view of the future.

Lastl y, we're broadly on track for the elections. We said when I got there we were goingto have to fight our way to the elections because the insurgents want to actively deny thisbecause it will relegate them to a position that they are not accustomed to. Theiraccustomed to Sunni dominance of the political proces s in Iraq and irs not going tohappen. Fourteen of the eighteen provinces, there are less than 4 violent incidents a day.The reg istration process has gone forward in most of the country. Had problems up inthe north and out west in Al Anbar . The election committee is working on somealternatives to that. But the elections in Janu ary will go forward. The insurgents will doeverything, I believe, in their power to create a sec urity situation tbat tbey will try tomake us believe that there not possib le, but they will go forward and as a result we willtake another step forward in the process of movin g lraq onto a democracy.

I know that most of you former military folks ....boy you got a grea t armed forces outtbere and you can be really proud of them . What they did in Fallujah, the soldiers,sailors, airmen, marines and corpmen even, is a feat of arms. Some of you know abo utthe difficulties of urban fighting, they took down a well planned urban defense in sevendays. Inflicted 3000 folks killed or captured on the enemy, with relatively insignificantlosses to ourselves. So magnificent feat of arms there by a great armed forces. That ' s it,and I'll be happy to take your questions.

COLONEL ARCHIE DAVIS: Gentlemen, are there any questions out there?

KEN ALLARD: Hey George, Ken Allard. Can you tell us wha t you are looking forwardto in January in the run up to the election. Do you expect the insurgents to make a maineffort, another Fallujah , and if so how do you intend to respond?

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: Nice to hear from you Ken.

KEN ALLARD: Good to hear you back.

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: I don' t believe that there is going to be another Fallujabnor do I think they will attempt to create another Fallujah. What we hear is that theyrecognize that they cannot defeat us. And we've proven that time and time again. So Idon't th ink they will go to another Fallujah . I think they'll operate more as classicinsurgents, small attacks, or attacks in sma ll numbers . I do think they will try to make

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som e very high profile attacks before the elections. And that is what we and the IraqiSecurity Forces will be preparing for.

PAUL VALLELY: General Casey, Paul Vallely. Can you tell us a litt le bit about thedevelopment of the intelligence capability for the Iraqi battalions and the Iraq i forces . Isthat progressing or where are we at on that, because I think that ' s essential moving themtowards some type of superior position over there when it comes to security.

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: Paul , you are exactly right. Insurgency intelligence isthe num ber one priority. I will tell you we have work to do in that area. Building anIraqi intelli gence capability is our number one priority for the next year. We have donesome work already with the Mini ster of Interior and Minister of Defense on theirservices . More to do all the way down. as you suggest. down to the battalion level. Weare working to give the Iraqi 's the capability of conducting independent counterinsurgency operations. You can't do that without intelligence . So you will see that as amain priority over the next year.

PAUL VALLEY: Great, thank you.

CHUCK NASH: General, Chuck Nash. Story has been running in the paper start edyesterday about six guardsmen from Ohio who stripped some vehicles that were offonthe side of the road . Accomplished their mission and it looks like they got courtmartialled. Pretty much had the book thrown at them. There is an Ohio Senator trying toget clemency for them . Now it seemsj ust, you know, on that side of the story, andwhat's being presented, that that ' s something that should have and could have beenhandled at a much lower level. Instead it didn 't. What part of the story are we notgetting about that?

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: Chuck, I'm sorry, I have not heard that story. And Idon' t know anything about it.

CHUCK NASH: Okay, thank you.

COLONE L ARCHIE DAVIS: Any otber questions out there?

RICK FRANCONA: Ge nera l Casey, Rick Francona. Can you give us an idea of yoursense of what voter turnout might be?

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: Yeah, it depends, kind of, where you are in the country.It could go as high , they think, as about 80%. The real question .... It will be high in thesouth and it will be high in the Kurdish areas. The real question is the Sunnipart icipation. And right now my personal guess, it will be greater than 50% of the Sunnipopulation that wi ll participate. Hopefully it will be much higher. But there is just noway of knowing right now.

RJCK FRANCONA: Thanks.

PAUL VALLELY: Any update on reconnaissance surveillance on the borders, anyimprovement that you see to stave off any of the cross-border operations that are beingconducted from Syria or Iran?

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: We don't really see operations being conducted crossborder. We do see infiltration of foreign fighters across the borders. I think this is PaulVallely again, I think ...

PAUL VALLELY: Right it is George, Thanks.

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: The problem is not necessari ly surveillance on theborders . I mean, right now we 've got problems at the border crossings. With just honestborder guards that are checki ng properly the peop le's documentation. And that issomething that the Minister of Interior is working very hard with. We've actually hadsome of our own Department of Border Guard folks, our own Department ofBordersover there working with the Iraqi' s in the effort to help them. But what we felt is that abig ISR operation on the border doesn't necessarily service well when people are drivingthrough the ports of entry. So I think that would be my answer to that. Intelligence,police and borders are my top three priorities for next year. So that is right up there.

COLONEL ARCHIE DAVIS: Next question please.

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: You hit two out of three Paul.

PAUL VALLELY: Thank you.

KEN ALLARD: Yeah I've got another one. What is Dave Petraeus saying about, notjust the equipping of these Iraqi units but the schoo ling of them and the operational art,how is their leadership looking and do you think that they are, in 2005, going to be aforce you can increasingly tum to?

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: [ will tell you that leadership has been a challenge. Weare working to develop the brigade and division headquarters. That will be a major focusfor the next year. They have just recently appointed the Iraqi division and brigadecommanders. So we are working with them to build their headquarters. As I said that'sour greatest challenge for the next year. Again, if you go back to the task, condu ctindependent counter-insurgency operations, you can ' t do that if you don't have brigadeand division headquarters that can garner the intelligence, build the plans, direct theoperations. So that part of it is still to be done. What Dave has done is a magnificent jobof training and equipping Iraqi battalions. These battalions are on line and are activelyworking with coalition forces on operations. I will tell you that in each of the majoroperations that we 've done, Najaf, Samarra and Fallujah, there has been progressivelymore iraq i security force involvement in each of those operations. There were actuallytwo brigades of Iraqi' s in Fallujah. During the operation there they fought well. Andthere is now an Iraqi Division Headquarters in Fallujah controlling two brigades. It's the

first time an Iraqi division headquarters has been in the field since the war. So mechanicsof the process going fairly well. As you suggest some of the leadership development andstaff building processes still be done, to build forces capable of independent operations.

COLONE L ARCHIE DAVIS: Other questions.

STEVE GREER: Hey Sir, Steve Greer here. I got a question about the Madhi milit iaand Sadr 's influence and what you think is going to happen in terms of the elections. Hashe reared his head lately or are things kind ofquiet in that area.

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: Knock on wood he is.. . the Madhi militia has been veryquiet since Najar. I will say that Najafis a good example ofwhat can happen once a cityis liberated from the tyranny of insurgents . Madhi militia was running rampant in Najafkilling and murdering people, intimidating and terrorizing the popu lation . Since we 'vecompleted that operation the Governor and the Iraqi Security Forces have taken charge ofNajaf. And really since then, it's not only Najafbut the south has gone almost quiet. Ithink a lot of that has to do with the influence of the Ayatollah Sistani . That's one thing.The second thing is we did some fairly significant damage to the Muqtada militia duringthe August time period. Now, I would say dormant. Okay. With a question mark. Theother point I'd say is in Sadr City, Fauawah (??spelling). Pete Carelli in the 1st Cav andthe Iraqi government have done a wonderful job there using economic development as atool to keep the people on side and in support of the government.

COLONE L ARCHIE DAVIS: Any more questions?

RJCK FRANCONA: Yes, Genera l Casey, Rick Francona again. Are you detecting alarge influx of Iranians in the south?

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: I wouldn 't say necessarily a large influx of Iranians butwe and the Iraqi ' s both share a concern about Iranian influence in the south. And I dobelieve that there are Iranians coming into the south attempting to influence politicaloutcomes. But it' s not necessarily a large number of infiltrators, if you understand what Imean.

RICK FRANC ONA: Right.

COLONEL ARCHIE DAVIS: Any more questions gentlemen?

COWNEL ARCHIE DAVIS: Last call for questions?

COLONEL ARCHIE DAVIS: If there are no more questions, General Casey Sir, thankyou for taking the time to discuss operations in Iraq with us. We really appreciate it andwish you all the best Sir.

GENERAL GEORGE CASEY: Hey thank you all very much. I appreciate yourquestions.

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GEN, CASEY: Hello, everybody. I think I'm self-int roducing. (l a ughter.)

Nice to see you back in Washington here. For those of you I don't know, I'm George Casey,the commander of the Multin at ional Force in Iraq.

I'd like to j ust tal k to you a little about the sit uat ion on the ground in I raq. I've been therealmost six months now, and we've j ust completed a review of the first five month s. As I thi nk someof you know, we developed a campaign plan in the July time period, John Negro ponte and I, withboth the embassy sta ff and my staff, and we've been working toward that ever since. And so we didour fi rst major assessment here at the five-month point.

I can t ell you tha t I feel t hat we're broadly on track in helping the Iraqi people complete theirtransitio n to a constitut ionall y elected govemment at th e end of next year. We also believe that thisobjective is both realistic and achievable.

Now I recognize that t hat may not be an impression that we all share here, and I by no meanswan t to give you the impression that thi s process is going to be uncontested or violence-free. That 'snot going to be th e case.

But as we have seen in Najaf, in Tall Afar, in 5amarra and in 5adr City, t he Iraqi people arefighting to throw off the mantle of terror and intimidati on, so that th ey can elect t heir owngovern ment and build a better life for the I raqi people.

There Is progress across Iraq every day, and every day we and our Iraqi partners are a ste pcloser to accomplishing our objecti ves.

Now let me j ust make a couple of points wit h you. First of all, th e insurgency that we'refigh t ing is not 10 feet tall. They're a tough , aggressive enemy, but th ey' re not 10 feet t all. They'rethe same people who have oppressed th e Iraqi people for th e last 30 yea rs. They're th e reason thatover a million I raqis are missing and why probably several hundred thousand of th ose missing I raqisare likely in mass graves around Iraq. They' re focused on th eir return to dominance, so that th eycan continue to plunder the great natural resources of Iraq. They offer no alternati ve vision. Theyoffer only intim idation and subj ugat ion.

With the win in Fallujah, with the liberation of Fallujah, they no longer have any safe havensanywhere in Iraq. And also, as a result of th e success in Fallujah, it was driven home to them th atthey cannot defeat the coalitio n forces.

50 th ey 're attacking our will and the will of the Iraqi people , and I personally do not believethat th ey will defeat th e indomitable spiri t of 25 million free people who want to build a better lifefor them selves and for th eir families.

second point; The Iraqi security forces are getting st ronger every day. Our plan to build theI raqi military and police forces is broadly on tra ck. By February there will be 70 trained andequipped battalions In the Iraqi army; one of those will be a mechanized infant ry batta lion.

Progress has also been made in the police and special police forces. By February there will besix public order battalions, a special police regim ent , four police commando battalions and somenine regional SWAT teams -- special weapons and tactics teams n all of them contributing to thefight against the Insurgents and the terrorists on a day-to-day basis. As most of you know, we stillhave a way to go In th is area, but as I said, we're broadly on tra ck and generally very pleased withthe performance of the Iraqi security forces.

Th jrd po jnt ; Reconstructio n momentum is bUilding . In June there were only around 230projects actually what we call turning dirt, actually started, on the ground. By the end of Novembe rthere were over 1,000 , with a value of over $3 billion. All of th is in spite of insurgents' efforts todisrupt the reconstruct ion process. This is a great tribute to the folks that work on those projects,particularly In the embassy and the coalition businessmen and women who are over there workingto build a better I raq.

fourth po int; The interim government and th eir security forces are broadly accepted by theIraqi people. Some poll ratings for the government are as high as 70 percent approval rating. TheIraqi people express a generally favorable opinion about their new army and about their police, andmore than 60 percent of Iraqis believe that the country Is headed In the right direction and they areoptimistic about their future.

We're also broadl y on track for the elections. Fourteen of the 18 provinces have less than -.four or less mctdents of Violence a day, and the registration process in most of the country wasexecuted . The Iraqi election committee is working on some alternative solutions for the two areas ofthe country In which it was disrupted.

I want to be cl ear ; The insurgents and the terrorists will continue to attack and attempt todisrupt the election process. And we see that dally. They won't succeed. And the elections inJanuary will then be but another step forward in our relentless progress toward a new Iraq.

Now if I could just say a word to the home audience here In the United States. As a nation youcan take great pride in the role that our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marin es are playing in helpingbulld a new, a better I raq. Each and every one of them recognizes the Importance that successfullyaccompli shing this mission holds for our own security, and each and every one of them makes adifference every day. Wherever I go I see their acts of bravery, ccmpesslon and selflessness, and Icouldn't be prouder of these wonderful men and women.

Our success to date Is also a tribute to the great men and women of the I raqi security forcesand th e coalition who have given their lives to defeat terrorism and to help the I raqis to help build anew I raq. We grieve with the loved ones of all our serv ice members and with those of Iraqi servicemembers who have died.

We are humbled by their sacrifice and th eir contribution In bringing freedom to Iraq, and weare humbled by their sacrifice in enhancing the security of the United States and the coalitio n.

Lastly, we are, especially during the holiday season, also deeply thankful for the love andsupport of our famili es and loved ones, whose sacrifices and strength underpin everything that wedo.

Progress towards a constitutionally elected government will not be easy. Nothing worthwhileever is. But the challenge of helping the people of I raq build a better future is one that the I raqipeople in the armed forces of 30 freedom-loving countries can take on.

So thank you very moen, and I'll take your questions.

.2 General, based at least partly on the candidates the Shl'a are offeri ng, are you concernedon what Influence I ran may have over the Iraqi government afte r the January elect ion?

GEN, CASEY; I missed the very first part of your question.

.2 Based at least in part on what candidates the Shl'a are offering, are you concerned aboutthe possible influence that Iran might have on the Iraqi government after the electio n?

GEN. CASEY; My persona l view" and th is is politica l, but I'm here every day and I'll give youjust my personal view. I don' t see substantial I ranian Influence on this particular government tha twill be elected In January. I see I ran as more of a 10ngeHerm threat to Iraqi security. But that 'sjust n that's my view, and from .. I'm a mil itary person who's j ust n who's there.

.2 You mean n from a longer view, are you tal king about a possible military attack as opposedto poli tica l?

GEN. CASEY; No, I don't -- I'm not ta lking about that. I'm j ust saying from a stratearcperspective, I raq is a long-term th reat to stability -- I 'm sorry, Iran Is a long-term threat to stabilityIn Iraq. If you look on the other side, I th ink Syria is a short-term threat because of the supportthey provide to the former Ba'ath lst leaders that we see operating In and out of Syria.

.2 Thank you, General.

.2 General, you talked about how the government is considering alternative solut ions in someof those Sunni Triangle areas where rectstreucn is a problem. As I understand It, one of those isholding elections over a longer period of time; more than one day, in other words . What's yourassessment of the security situation In doing them ? Doesn't th at j ust give a longer period of time forpotentia l attacks by Insurgents? And also could you tell us what the America n role is In security ofthose elect ion sites?

GEN. CASEY; I do not thin k the extended electi on period Is sti ll on the table. I know that wasdiscussed, but I've discussed it with some of the leadership in the Iraqi govem ment. I don't believeit's on the tab le anymore, at least It wasn' t when I left.

We are working closely with the Ministry of Inter ior and the Iraqi elect ion committee(SIC/commission) In build ing the securi ty plan for the elections.

I t 's not finally formed yet. It will be probab ly by the end of thi s month . In general the role ofth e ccaunon forces will be one of broad-area security, and it will be th e Iraqi security for ces that willwork the specifics of the polling areas and places like that .

.2 General , how concerned are you that the s unnrs will not part icipate or not tum out innumbers sufficient in this election, not only because of the security situation, but simply because ofdisaffection? And if they do, what does that mean?

GEN, CASEY; Again, I wish n my political consultan t, John Negroponte, could probab ly do abetter job on th is one. My view is -. I 'll give you my opinion. My opinion is that there will be Sunnlparticipation In this In a reasonable amount . I believe that the insurgents are pursu ing a strategy Icall purposeful disenfranchisement by intimidating Sunnls away from the election process so theycan say, ~Well, t he Sunnis didn't vote , so therefo re the electi on Is I nva lJd. ~ 1 don 't think tha t's gOingto be a successful strategy, but it 's one that they' re try ing to Implement . So I th ink there will besufficient Sunnl participation in this for people to accept the fact that it Is a reasonabl y free and fairelection.

2. You talked about at th e pollin g places it would largely be Iraqi security forces. There 's what,9,000 polling places?

GEN. CASEY; It's undetermined. Somewhere between 6(,000) and 9(,000); 9(,000) is thehig h end.

.Q And when you look at the number of Iraqi security forces, it seems like there wouldn't bevery many Iraqi securi ty forces. If you could talk about that, the numbers at those polling places.And I know you don't want to be too specifi c on that, but if you'll give us more detail about what theAmerica ns will do. Maybe sort of rapid reaction? What?

GEN. CASEY; Again, we're sti ll worki ng through the process, but it 's like any type of securitysit uation. If you want to guard, you don' t guard every place just at the point . You guard it awayfrom th e point. You restrict access to it. You keep vehicles from moving in the directi on of thepolling places around it . I mean, there's a range of opt ions that you do to reduce exposure of theseparticular sites, rather than just tak ing 20 to 30 people and huddling arou nd the site itse lf. That'sbeing worked out.

My experience with elections in the past, in Bosnia and xoscvo, again the forces of thecoalition, the security forces normally operate away from the polling sites in an area security roleand do provide reaction force if there's problems.

And the other th ing we do and we will do and are doing is to conti nue t o conduct operationsprior t o the elect ions to disrupt th e insurgents and to keep them from disru pting th e electionprocess. 50 the re's an offens ive component to this as well .

.Q General, you talk about th e progress in security across Iraq. It seems that that airport roadis a symbo l of what many people say is a growing insurgency. What is the story with that road? Andwhy can't U.S. and I raqi forces patro l it effectively to sto p the attacks that are happening on It?

GEN, CASEY; I wouldn't necessarily see it as a symbol of a growing Insurgency , I would see itas a symbol of the growing use of car bombs in the insurgency. And that real ~y is the quest ion ofth e airport road . It's a tactic that's been adopted by the insurgents , They don't have to do much. Acar bomb a day in Baghdad or on the airport road sends a symbol that the insurgency is verypowerful, when In actuality I don 't believe that they are. It's a classic technique of the urbaninsurgent . They are trying to provoke us to do something that will make us look like we'reoverreact ing to them.

I mean, you could t ie up tra ffic -- I mean, if you searched every car getting on the airpo rtroad, you'd put th at part of Baghdad in knots. 50 it really is the issue of dealing with car bombs. Wecont inually work on that. And we will get -- we will get to a point where the airport road is secureand our people and the people in the embassy are protected against car bombs. But as with anybattl e, it's an ectton-reacttcn-ccunte rectron cycle that we go through with the enemy and the enemydoes to us.

.Q So is there a plan for that road or just a broader plan for attacking the te rrorists and theirability to make car bombs?

GEN, CASEY; I t 's a little bit of each, but we're actively working with the minister of Interiorand his traffic forces on ways to reduce the threats to our forces on the airport road.

.Q. Sir?

GEN. CASEY; Behind you, and I'll come back.

.Q Yes, General. This is Drew Brown with Knight Ridder. I know you addressed this in youropening rema rks, but in your view, are we winning in I raq? And how do you define winning? And asa follow- up, do you believe, given the current situation th ere, that credible nat ional elections will beheld or could be held or are possible to be held by January 30th?

GEN. CASEY; My view of winning is tha t we are broad ly on t rack t o accomplishing ourobject ives, which is a constituti onally elected govemment that Is representat ive of all the I raqipeople and with I raqi security forces that are capable of maintaining domest ic order and denyingI raq as a safe haven for t error. And I believe we will get there by the end of December '05, and Ibelieve we are on track to get there by December of 'OS .

What was the second part?

.2 About the elections, do you think that .-

GEN . CASE Y; I do.

.Q. n given the situation, it's -- that credible elections will be held on January 30th?

GEN , CASEY; I do. I mean, it is going to be hard. They will fight us every step of the way. ButI do believe electio ns are -- credible elections can be held. I mean , again, in th e south and in thenorth, 14 of those 18 provinces, my u what I believe is that they will be unevent ful. They will becontested in the cente r area of the country, but I believe that we will succeed in that.

.Q. As a final n final question, how do you -- how do you u what do you tell the fam ilies ofservicemen who have been killed and maimed over there? How do define victory in Iraq, ultimatevictory to these people who are losing their loved ones?

GEN , CASEY; I think I j ust did. But what I'd say to th e families is what I said in my openingstatement . These soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines tha t have died over there have given theirlives to help 25 mil lion Iraqis bui ld a better life and to Improve the security of the United States andthe coalition .

And these young men and women went over th ere knowing th at would be a possibili ty, andGod bless them. That 's what makes th is country great.

.Q. I'm curious. Could you elaborate a little bit more on th e situat ion up along that border?There was supposed to be a joint border committee that was meetin g to work out the cress-bordert raffic. Has that fallen apart?

And would you also address down In the south, It's my understand you all are sti ll holdingsome number of Mujahldeen-e-khalq at a camp down near Kuwai t. What' s their status? How manyare there? And what's going to finally happen to them? And when?

GEN. CASEY; Last part first. That's more up north. There are n my last recollection Is thatthere was about 3,000 MEK folks still the re at a camp, that we are worki ng the ir process with theRed Cross. I do not have a timeline of when that process will be completed.

.Q. So what will happen to them?

GEN. CASEY; Their ultimate disposition , where they"

.Q. Where are the y going to go?

GEN . CASEY; Almost every one of the m has a different story, so it's a vari ety of differentplaces.

I 'm sorry, what was your first?

.Q. And the first one is, what 's going on at the Syrian border? You had a commi ttee that waslooking at that .

GEN. CASEY; Oh. There was a meeting. That process is continuing. I will tell you, mypersonal view is th e Syrians are mak ing some efforts on th e border, but they're not going after thebig fish, whIch is really the people tha t we're interested In. And we're really interested in them goingafter the senior Ba'athlsts that are providing the di recti on and finan cIng for the Insurgency insideIraq. That's what we're realty like to see them do.

.Q. Because you guys obviously can't cross th e border to go after them.

GEN, CASEY; Right .

.Q. Yeah, your emphasis on the elections is making them shape into a falriy decisive element ofthe entire campaign. What would be th e consequences if they are successfully disrupted by theinsurgents? What's at stake here?

GEN. CASEY; I t has been an important intermediate step in our campai gn plan since westarted this . But it is a step in the process. You're asking me a hypothetical . I don't really know theanswer to tha t.

2 Well, you plan for failure.

GEN, CASEY; Well, you also -- you plan for success. I really don 't have a good answer tothat , and I'd rather not get into a hypothet ical situ ation.

2 All r ight , you had said that with th e fall of Fallujah for the insurge nts, they don't have a safehouse Inside the country anymore . Mosul, since Fallujah has seen a lot of trouble up there, what isthe status of Mosul now? And do you thi nk that Is becoming a safe haven for insurgen ts? And whatare you doing to try to alleviate th e ongoing problem up there?

GEN, CASEY; l et me ta lk about safe haven for a minute, what I mean when I say safe haven.For me, a safe haven is a place where insurgents and terrorists can go and plan, and buildimprov ised explosive devices, and bring in recru its and receive them in, give them training, linkth em up with operatio ns, stage for operat ions, rehearse operat ions, with impunity .

And that 's what they had in Falluj ah, and that' s what they don't have anymore. That's whatthey had in Samarra for a while . They don't have that .. ( inaudible). That' s what the Muqtada militiahad In Najaf. They don't have that anymore.

So they've lost the ability to operate any place with impunity . So what 's going on in Mosul, inmy view, Is not a safe haven. It's an area where Insurgents have gone and have had some successagainst the local securi ty forces.

Now our folks, operat ing with additional I raqi security forces, have restored the sta tus quo.But I wi ll tell you more work needs to be done the re t o Improve the securi ty situation prior toelecti ons, and it will be done.

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2 I'm sorry . Could I just follow up? Do you see at all tha t Mosul is becoming a safe haven? Isthe re an effort at all, any intelligence tha t shows tha t these folks have actually start ed moving intoMosul and the y'll make that kind of their Fallujah?

GEN, CASEY; I see no evidence that the terrorists are try ing to make Mosul a safe haven as Idefine "sere haven.~ It is cert ainly an area where they are operating and attempting to disrupt theelectio n process and the coaliti on and IraqI security force operat ions, but not a safe haven.

.Q. General Casey, if you -- if indeed, as you say, the terro rists and Insurgents have lost theability to operate with impunity, they've lost their safe havens, then how do you explain the factthat they continue to take such a toll , to be so effective again st the Multinational Forces?

And what -- a second question -- what , if anything, will the Multina tional Force be doingdifferently between now and January 30th to improve the situation and insti ll confidence in the I raqipeople that the y can safely go to the polls and vote?

GEN. CASEY; To be clear, I said that the y could operate with Impunity inside the safe haven .They are clearly operating elsewhere around Iraq.

Now th ese levels of violence since Fallujah have dropped dramati cally . And the y are actuallynow down at th e levels prior t o Ramadan and really right where -- back where we were at transferof sovereignty. So th e level s of violence have come way down.

I do not n they are not necessari ly operati ng effecti vely against coalition forces. I n fact, whenwe look back, the numbers of attacks don't necessanlv produce a very high volume of casualties . I nfact, a lot of th e attacks are in fact ineffect ive against coalition forces. They are frankly moresuccessful against civ ilians and in some cases against I raqi security forces.

.Q. And the second part of the question. What , If anything, will you be doing differently betweennow and the end of January to do --

GEN. CASEY; Oh, yeah.

.Q. -- in spite of all this, instill t he confidence to the Iraqi people that the y can safely go to thepolls and vote?

GEN. CASEY; That 's a great question . We -- I th ink you know a few weeks ago I asked forsome additional forces before the elect ion period. We felt we needed to keep up the momentu m, tokeep th e pressure on the Insurgents that moved away from Falluj ah after the Fallujah operationtook place. And those forces are going to help us both keep the pressure on th em and then get amore secure envi ronment prior to the elections.

The other thing that's happening now is, as I ment ioned, the I raqi security forces aregraduating. They're coming out of their t raining. And we're .. 18 of those 27 battalions are on line,and I th ink 12 of th em have come on line in about the last 45 days.

And so th ey are now available to enhance securi ty across Iraq,

Pollee continue to graduate . We cont inue to crank out the police comma ndo battalion. So therewill be a concerted effort across Iraq, particular ly in the greater Baghdad area and the Mosut areaand in the AI Anbar provi nce, all the way up to January 30th .

.Q. You said In your opening statement you were generally pleased with their performance.That doesn't sound like a ring ing endorsement.

GEN. CASEY; I said we are generally pleased with their performance. Everybody knows therehave been instances -- M05Ul is a good examp le -- where the police collapsed. But there are 12provinces where the pollee are doing very well every day. So it's a mixed bag, but we're generallypleased.

The forces in Fallujeh -- the I raqi battalions th at fought in Fallujah did very well. And they'llbecome the center, really, I th ink, of what the Iraqi Army becomes.

Eric?

.2 General, the Army Reserve and th e Army National Guard have missed their recrui ting goalsthe last two months. The National Guard is announcing new Incent ives for that. Given the fact tha tthe Guard and Reserve represent about 40 percent of your forces over there and will continue torema in an Important part u a source of your troops In the immediate future, how concerned are youth at many of th ese active duty forces who would norma lly flow Into the Reserve and Guard are notdoing so because they don't want to have to go back to places like I raq and Afghan istan? How big aconcern Is tha t to you as th e commander of forces on the ground there?

GEN. CASEY; Frankly, it 's not someth ing I 've th ought about deeply In about six months u

when I was the vice chief. But dearly a good flow of active forces Into the Guard and Reserve issomething that will benefit the Army, the Guard and Reserve over the long hauL And again, Ihaven't thought about it in a while there, but It's somethi ng I th ink we need to pay attention to andcont inue to encourage and maybe incentivize active forces to cont inue to move into the Guard andReserve.

.2 General Casey, could I ask you a question about th e level of sectarian violence? Do youth ink it's on the rise? There have been several lnddents recently u the bomb ing yeste rday againstthe Shl'a and bombing of a bus load of Kurdish militiamen up In reosut. How do you assess thataspect of the insurgency?

GEN. CASEY; I would not assess th at there is a high or seriously increasingly level ofsectarian violence at th is time. There are dea rly incidents . It is a troublesome trend, and it is onethat we will continue to watch closely .

.2 What do you think the source of it is? Is thi s n I mean , Zarqawi in his fam ous letter talkedabout trying to foment Just thi s sort of thing . Do you th ink tha t's where these thin gs are --

GEN, CASEY; I wouldn't want t o guess on that. But you've quoted a potential source.

Go ahead.

.2 General, you said a few times th at th ings are broadly on track. But now that you've beenthere six months, can you give us any specific areas where you had hoped to be further along thanyou are at this point ?

GEN , CASEY; Fair question, because the analysis that we did did look at th at . I'll tell you, Iwould have hoped we had been further along on the Iraqi .- helping the Iraqi u particularly themini stries I'm concerned With, Ministry of Interior, Ministry of Defense .. in building theirintelligence serv ices up.

We're work ing counteri nsurgency. Intelligen ce Is key t o that. And what we've said, and whatwe've seen to some degree but not the extent that I think we can If we build these effectiveIntell igence services, Is tha t we benefit from what the Iraqis know about themselves. So that's goingto be one of our main prtortnes for the next year.

The second major thing that we'll be working on for next year Is the local police. We arecontl nuino to tra in folks. We've adapted the ir training program to make them more able to operateIn a counterinsurgency environment. You know, the cop on the beat doesn't normally necessari lyth ink he's going to get attacked by a carload of guys. They need to have some paramilitary-typeskills so they can defend and protect themselves and operate In a counteri nsurgency environment .So that's the second point.

Third point Is I think we've got to do more work on the borders and on the border guards, andthat will be another focus for the next year.

.2 General, I want t o go back to one thing you said about the insurgency, that th ey're not 10feet ta ll. That's a statement that's been used in the past to describe the Soviet Union soldier, theViet Cong, and yet we had trouble in Vietna m and it was stru ng out a long time. What is your best

int elligence about th e resiliency of the insurgency, its ability t o reconstitute? (Inaudible) -- you cancut off a lot of tails but you got to get at the head.

GEN. CASEY; Oh, absolutely .

2 Should the American public and the Iraqi public expect this insurgency just to go on in someform for quite a while no matter what happens January 30th?

GEN. CASEY: I t hink we ought to be clear that when they have the elect ions on th e 30th ofJanuary, th e insurgency's not going to go away. I mean, you mentioned some other cases, but ifyou look at th e histo ry of insurgencies, these areprot racted events. They go on for a long tim e.Now, th ey won't necessaril y go on at the same level and the y won' t necessari ly go on at a levelwhere it will require 150,000 American troops, especially when we're creating Iraqi security forcesth at we'll work with over the next year to help them build independent counterinsurgency capability,but insurgencies generally go on for a long period of time, and I think you'd expect to see theinsurgency in I raq go on at some level for a long time.

2 They seem to be more sophisticated. I heard that there was command and contro lsophist icatio n or the attacks seemed to have picked up. It doesn't seem to be getting lesssophist icated, but even more as you kill a lot of them.

GEN. CASEY; We are seeing military capabil iti es. I wouldn't say necessaril y sophisticated, butwe are seeing military capabilities in platoon-size attacks that we had not necessaril y seen before.But for th em to conduct an attack like tha t takes a lot of their t ime and their effo rt, and we're notseeing a lot of these.

2 General, could you j ust clarify your statement on Syri a, what your concerns are about theirrole in the insurgency or perhaps the going and coming of foreign terrorists across that border?

GEN. CASEY: I have two concerns with Syria. One, as you suggest, is foreign fighters. And wesee a facilitation mode through Syria, foreign fighters coming into Iraq. I do not see direct Syriangovern ment involvem ent in that facilitati on, but It is coming through Syri a. And I do believe thatthey have the capability to stop it if they had the will to stop it .

The second point is we have fairly good information that there are senior former Be'athfsts,members of tha t they call th e New Regional Command, operating out of Syria with impunity andprOViding direction and fina ncing for the insurgency in Iraq. And that needs t o stop.

2 I s al-Dourl one of them?

GEN. CASEY; He's back and n he's a back and forther. He's not necessarily in there.

2 General, could you -- just a quick n

STAFF: Let's make this ~ - let 's make th is th e last one, Genera l.

2 can I do a qutck , you know, question on .. you said t o Kathleen (sp) th at the I raqi securityforces are performing well in 12 of the provinces in your own -- right? But one of the things you alsosay is that 14 of the provinces are in pretty good shape. So it would seem th at In those 12prov inces th ey haven't really been tested. I presume before Mosul happened, before the mostrecent Violence, you probably th ought those Iraqi security forces were perform ing well. I mean,they're the retrained Iraqi security forces. So if they haven't been tested yet, aren't t here stillconcerns about how th ey would do? I mean, I guess yeste rday in Samarra a police station wasattacked and not a shot was fired , and they also left the area.

GEN . CASEY: The 12 or 16 provin ces, what I meant, those were police, not necessarily allI raqi security forces. Just police. And whether or not they've been tested, some of them have. In

the south, during the Muqtada milit ia attacks, there were several pollee stations that were attackedfairl y heavily, particularly the one in Kut for example, and they did fight very well. But there issomething to wha t you're saying about untested .

Now in Mosul, we have seen problems with the police in Mosul over a period of time. And sothe fact that all of t hem collapsed at the same time was a surprise. The fact tha t they had a chief ofpolice who was not very effecti ve and who man y believe was corrupt -- that problem up there hadbeen gOing on for a longer period of time, so it wasn't a complete shock.

Usten, th ank you all very much. Come over here and see us.

STAFF; Thank you all for attending .

.Q. (Off mike) n are they commanding, actually, t he insurgency , this new regional commandout of ..

ST AFf; No, that's their name.

.Q. That's what they call themselves .

GEN. CASEY; Thank you.

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TV Broadcast Summary :

Analysts Tommy Franks, Jed Babbin, Don Shepperd, Montgomery Meigs and Jack Jacobs were allfeatured on national news stations (Fox News, CNN and MSNBC). General ly speaking, allagreed that t he e lection was not as v iolent as expected and that the Iraqi s ecurity forcesand American troops did a very good job . Several analysts a l l uded t o t he f a c t that t herewi l l be more danger ahead. The analyst mood was positive as I raqi events unfolded.

Print/Online/Radio Summary :

Mi litary analysts ' d iscussion of Sunday 's e lect ion i n pr int , online and radio outlets wasminima l , l imited to accounts quoting Wil liam Nas h and Bob Scal es . General Nash wasf e a t ured on NPR before and during t he election process (January 30th ) while Bob Scale s wasquoted in The Bal timore Sun (reprinted by The Sou th Florida Sun Sentinel ) on keep i ngtroops safe in Iraq. In addition, a washington Times r e ade r wrote a letter t o t he papercomment i ng on Sca l es' Op-Ed piece from e a r l i e r in the week on t he need to raise trooplevels .

The attached memo provides informat ion on what each analyst said and how often theyappeared on television.

MILITARY ANALYST COVERAGEIRAOI ELECTIONS

Print/Online/Radio Summary:Mili tary ana lysts' discussion of Sunday's elect ion in print, online and radi o outlets wasminim al, limited to accounts quoting William Nash and Bob Scales. General Nash wasfeatured on NPR before and during the election process (January 30th

) while Bob Scaleswas quoted in The Baltimore Sun (reprinted by The South Florida Sun Sentinel) onkeeping troops safe in Iraq. In addition, a Washington Times reader wrote a letter to thepaper commenting on Scales' Op-Ed piece from earlier in the week on the need to raisetroop levels.

William Nash (NPR)• Iraqi troops "doing their duty" and enforcing security well• Statements made about U.S. troops pulling out within 18 months "may be

ambitious, but it's a good start."• Nash emphasized the importance of the U.S. supporting, not leading efforts for

the new Iraq , and avoiding being asked to leave Iraq.

Boh Sca les (Baltimore Sun - print/online)• The Sun piece described the Pentagon's plans to take U.S. sold iers from their own

uni ts and add them to Iraq i units.

• Scales: "It (embedding with Iraqi unit s) wou ld put our troops ' safety at risk, asthey'd be more vulnerable to insurgent attacks."

• The key here is to quickly solidify the Iraqi troops as a standalone force from U.S.troops.

TV Broadcast S ummary:Analysts Tommy Franks , Jed Babbin, Don Shepperd, Montgomery Meigs and JackJacobs were all featured on nation al news stations (Fox News, CNN and MSNBC).Generally speaking, all agreed that the election was not as violent as expected and thatthe Iraqi security forces and American troops did a very good job. Several analystsalluded to the fact that there will be more danger ahead. The analyst mood was positiveas Iraqi events unfolded.

Representative remarks per analyst are as follows:

To mmy Franks (Fox News - Hannity & Colmes / Fox & Friends)• Troops feel great about what they've done in relation to the elections• Any election in the Arab world is a "big deal"• This is the first practical exampl e of democracy in the Arab world• Does not agree with comments made by Senator Kerry and Senator Kennedy• He is proud of the work troops have done• Last thing you want to do is announce your "t imetable" for withdrawal

J ed Babbin (MSNBC Live Coverage - Iraqi Elections)• Withd rawa l from Iraq is "Simp ly the worst thing we cou ld do"• Withdrawal would strengthen the terrorists and weaken the Iraq peop le• We have to look at the bigger picture, we have to dea l wi th all the Jihadist nations

that are influencing Iraq

Don Sbe ppe rd (CNN Live From ....)• What we did in the run up to the election made a big difference (i.e. controlling

traffic flow around polling areas)• There were extensive offensive operations to stop terrorist before voting took

place especially in relation to foreign insurgents• This weekend was very stressful for coalition forces• It was very important for the Iraqis to pull this off

Montgomery Meigs (MSNBC Live Coverage - Iraqi Elections)• Events in Iraq have gone surprisingly well• It is a very tough proc ess in inventing a new government• We will see more Iraqi forces come on board with fewer American troops• We will have to watch how Sunnis are brought into the process• Doesn't think the coalition wi ll change after the vote• Need to continue to watch insurgents from Syria and Iran

J ac k Jacobs (MS NBC Live Coverage - Iraqi Elections)

• High lighted "hot spots" in Iraq in real-time durin g the polling process• Jacobs, duri ng the polling, predicted high voter turnout• Security expectations were "managed we ll"• Provided an overview of how insurgents might inflict violence duri ng the vote• Said the training of Iraq i forces by the U.S. military was key• Questioned whether "t wo Iraqs" would arise until the next election in October

(religious and cultural divides a potential after Sunday' s election)

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The attachment inc l ude s an examina t i on of med i a cove r age from t he top 10 newsoutlets by circulation a nd nat iona l t elevision br oadca s t stations f ol lowing the BRAea nnounceme nt . Ea r l y onl i ne coverage consis ted pri mar i ly o f a r eprinted AP storya nnoun c ing the number of c l os ur e s and cos t savings. La t e r update s i ncluded more o r i ginalcommentary and r eaction from s tat e offici al s and legi s lators. National t elev ision hads imi lar cover age a nd i ncluded commentary by mi l i ta ry analysts.

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BRAe Base Realignment and Closure 2005

BRAC - POST PRESS CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENTMEDIA REACTION

FRIDAY 13, 2005

The following includes an examination of media coverage from the top 10 news outletsby circu lation and national televis ion broadcast stations following the BRAeannouncement. Early online coverage consisted primari ly of a reprinted AP storyannouncing the number of closures and cost savings. Later updates included moreoriginal commen tary and reaction from state officials and legislators. National televisionhad similar coverage and included commentary by military analysts.

ONLINE HIGHLIGHTS

Immediate coverage of th e announcement:~ The NYT, WP, USA Today, NY Daily News and WSJ reprinted an AP story,

without adding original report ing.» Denver Post, Houston Chronicle tailored the AP piece for a local slant~ The L.A. Times, Chicago Tribune and Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran original

stories.

Updated sto r ies incl uded:~ A WP piece on the proposal to shut down WaIter Reed}> A NYT piece by Eric Sclun itt and David Stout on "intense reaction" across the

country to the announcement.

Co mmentary included:}> Reprinted AP stories highlighted overall cost savings, a "massive shift of US

forces," employment numbers in affected communities, and part of a writtenstatement by the Secretary: "Our current arrangements, designed for the ColdWar, must give way to the new demands of the war against extremism and otherevolving 21st Century challenges."

o Also included several quotes from state legislators who were disappointedin their state's closings. For example, New Jersey's Fort Monmouth wason the list, to which Democratic Rep. Rush Holt vowed to: "Fight like hellto change if' and "the Pentagon's error."

» "Atlanta was a major loser .. ." but the rest ofGA fared well and the state will gainjobs.

}> The news that Illinois will lose jobs due to closures, but such major installationsas Scott Air Force Base will stay open was greeted with "loud applause: '

}> That CO has no closures and will gain jobs was called good news for the state byWayne Allard, R-Colo.

)l> "California has done very well in this round" of closures, Rep. Duncan Hunter (RAlpine), the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee said today

Messages and quotes::> The aim to "p romote jointness" - "The Pentagon also proposed eliminating scores

of Reserve and National Guard bases, part of Rum sfeld's effort to promote"jointness" between the active-duty and reserve units." (NY Daily News, via anAP article).

:> The updated NYT piece on immediate reaction to the closures:o Quoted Loren Thompson of the Lexin gton Institute: "savings are

generated more by reorganization than closures"o Quoted Gen . Richard Myers : "The degree with which the services

coordinate, integrate and operate together will be increased, and it willinclude how we manage some of our bases and posts."

o The Secretary "sought to ease fears" about unemployment caused byclosed bases.

TELEVISION HIGHLIGHTS

:> ''Bottom Line - the DoD needs the money. They want to make better use of tax:payers money" - (CNN)

:> People in congress are saying "t he battle starts today" - (Headline News):> ''There is life afte r closure but it is diffic ult" - Audience interv iew (Fox News

Dayside with Linda Vester):> We are going to fight this decision and we have plenty of ways to fight it

(MSNBC - Rep . Rob Simmons):> Emphas is on which bases have had job gains (rather than losses) - (Fox New s)» BRAC sets-up a national competition between communities ... that is what this

process is about - (Fox News Dayside with Linda Vester):> Historically. Jess than 10% of bases were able to get off the list - (Fox New s

Dayside with Linda Vester)» Analyst: General Montgomery Meigs comments:

o Efficiency is the core principl e of this BRAC closureo Enhancement of "joint consol idation"o More open minded mili tary cultureo Biggest challenges: communities that lose jobso BRAC is probably a combination of the transformation initiat ive and the

wars overseas

ONLINE EXCERPTS

THE ATLANTA JOURNAL CONSTITUTION

ORIGINAL: Four Georgia bases on closure listRon Martz, Bob Kemper9:24 AMAfter surviving four previous round s ofbase closings unscathed, metro Atlanta took amajor hit on Friday in the latest announcement of facilities the Pentagon wan ts to shutdown.The Pentagon announced it plans to close three bases in the Atlanta area~ FortMcPherson in sou thwest Atlanta, Fort Gillem in Fores t Park and the Naval Air Station inMarietta. That wi ll mean a loss of near ly 6,500 military and civilian jobs and about $560million in annual payroll.Whil e Atlanta was a major loser. the rest of Georgia fared well and the state wi ll actuallygain abo ut 7,500 military and civilian positions...State officials had no immediate word on the list bu t Gov. Sonny Perdu e was holding anews conference and will visit each of the targeted facilities later today."We ' re disappointed. We think the community action group did a great job. ... We 'reprepared to challenge the recommendation," said Fred Bryant, deputy director, GeorgiaMilitary Affairs Coordinating Committee. "We don ' t know yet what were the key factorsin the decision."

THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE

ORIGINAL: Illinois takes job hit but escap es major base closuresRebecca Carro ll, AP8:56AM CDTIllinois would lose nearly 2,700 mili tary and civi lian jobs under base closuresrecomm ended Friday by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, but the state's majormil itary installations would remain open.Scott Air Force Base, located about 20 miles east of S1. Louis, near Bellevill e, emergedas the big winner, gaining 797 military and civ ilian jobs. Great Lakes Naval TrainingCenter in North Chicago is slated to lose 2,022jobs . . .The announcement that Scott would not close was greeted with loud applause and astanding ovation at MidAmerica Airport in Mascou tah, IlL, where lllinois U.S. Sen. DickDurbin and Rep s. Jerry Costello and John Shimkus he ld a news conference to announceits fate.

DENVER POST

ORIGINAL: Colorado a Winner in Base Closure PlansMike Soraghan, Denver Post Staff Writer and The Associated Press09:31:52 AM, updated at 11:00 AM

...Not only was Colorado spared any base closures, the state stands to gain nearly 5,000military jobs. .. Members of Colorado's congressional delegation expressed pleasure overthe plan's impact on the state."I think it's good news for Colorado and it's great news for the Colorado Springs area, "said U.S. Sen. Wayne Allard, R-Co lo., who served on the Senate Armed ServicesCommittee until recentl y.

HOUSTON CHRONICLE

UPDATED: 180 U.S. military bases targeted for closure by PentagonAP - 10:08AM, updated at 10:39. ..The 147th Fighter Wing ofthe Air National Guard will remain at Houston's EllingtonField under the plan. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said the wing's mission will be shiftingfrom national defense to homeland security.

LA TIMES

ORIGINAL: Ca lifornia Largely Spared in Latest Round of Base ClosuresTony Perry, rmes StaIfWriter

. . .The Los Angeles Air Force Base, the language facility at Monterey and major Navyand Marine Corps bases in San Diego were spared in the Pentagon 's list ofbasesproposed for closure, which was unveiled this morning."California has done very we ll in this round" of closures, Rep. Duncan Hunter (RAlpine), the chairman of the House Armed Serv ices Committee said today...California's biggest job loss appears to be the Naval Surface Warfare Center in Corona,which employs 900 workers and is listed for closure .. .Although the Pentagon's list is meant to be only the beginning of the process, 85% ofbases targeted by the Pentagon in the past have been closed

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

ORIGINAL: Pentagon Plans to Close 33 Major Bases - APLiz Sidoti12:44 PM EDT

NEW YORK TIMES

ORIGINAL: Pentagon Proposal to Include Shutti ng 33 Ma ior U.S. Bases - AP11:01 AM

UPDATE D: Pentagon Proposes Shutting 33 Major U.S. Bases and Oth er CutsEric Schmi tt and David Stout - I :II PMThe bases proposed for closing include some famili ar names in military history: theNavy's submarine base in New London, CoM., Fort McPherson in Georgia, Fort

Monmouth in New Jersey and the Pascagoula Naval Station in Mississippi. Scores ofsmaller installations would also be closed, and others would be conso lidated .. .Whi le the list ofrecommended closings was smaller than expected, the reaction fromthose affected was intense.Senator Joseph L Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, called the recommendation toclose the New London base, which would cost several thousands jobs, "irrational andirresponsible.""It insults our history and endangers our future," he told The Associated Press .. ."The savings projected by this round seem to be generated more by reorganization thanoutright closures," said Loren Thompson, a military analyst with the Lexington Institute,a consulting finn. "At present, the military is very inefficiently located and organized.Many facilities are sited in places that made sense a century ago but not now."After more than two years of exhaustive study, this round ofbase closings is an integralpart ofMr. Rumsfeld's strategy to revamp the military into a leaner, more agile force."The degree with which the services coordinate, integrate and operate together will beincreased, and it will include how we manage some of our bases and posts," Gen. RichardB. Myers , the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said.Mr. Rumsfe ld sought to ease fears in many communities that closings could leavethousands of local employees out ofwork. He cited examples of closed bases that hadbeen converted into commercial airports and economic centers. And he pledged that theDefense Department would provide retraining for workers and economic aid to helpoffset the immediate economic impact in communities where bases close.

USA TODAY

UPDATE D · Battle over Bases Begins: Pentagon proposes closing of 33 major bases- APUpdated 12:30 PM...One major closure Rumsfeld seeks is Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota, hometo 29 B- IB bombers, half the nation's fleet of the aircraft , and the state's second largestemployer.Repub lican freshman Sen. John Thune on Friday called the Pentagon "flat wrong" aboutEllsworth, and he vowed to help lead the fight in the Senate to delay the entire round ofclosures. "We will continue to keep Ellsworth open," Thune said .. .Rumsfeld also recommended closing the Nava l Station in Pascagoula, Miss., whichbarely survived previous base closure rounds. The decision was a blow to Sen. TrentLott, R-Miss., who had fought the 1995 round of closures. At stake are 844 military jobsand 112 civilian jobs...New England took a major hit, and Connecticut suffered the biggest loss in terms ofjobswith the proposed closure of the U.S. Naval Submarine Base in Groton, Conn. Shutteringthe installation would result in the loss of 7,096 military jobs and 952 civilianjobs.Calling the recommendation "irrational and irresponsible," Sen. Joe Lieberman (DConn .) said, "It insults our history and endangers our future."..;

WALL STREET J OURNAL

O RIGINAL: Pentagon to Propose Closure - APUPDATED: Pentagon Proposes Closure Of Abo ut 180 Installations - AP10:55 a.m.Later updated with AP piece

WASHINGTON POST

ORIGINAL: Pentae:on Proposing to Shut 33 Ma ior Bases - APLiz Sidoti11:01 AM

UPDATED: Pentagon Proposes Shutting \V.lter ReedWilliam Branigin and Ann Scott Tyson12:54 PMThe Pentagon today proposed elim inating abou t 180 military installations across thecountry in a new round of base closures and realignments aimed at saving nearly 549billion over 20 years , One major proposal calls for essentially moving Walter Reed ArmyMedical Center from Washington, D.C. , to a new state-of-the-art. jointly staffed faci lityin suburban Maryland. ..Housing and some research facilities at the Walter Reed site in Washington would stayopen, but the faci lity as it exists today would practically be shut down, and it wou ld lose5,630 military, civilian and contractor jobs...Among the luckiest states on the list is Maryland, which gains 9,293 jobs -- more thanany other state. The District loses 6,496 jobs und er the proposal -- mainl y from the loss ofWaiter Reed -- while Virginia loses 1,574.Th e hard est-hit states include Connecticut, which loses 8,586 jobs; Maine, with a loss of6,938 jobs; and Alaska , whicb stands to Jose 4,619 . Overseas, a total of 13,503 jobswould be cut in the closure or realignment ofU.S. mi litary installations in Germany,South Korea and elsewhere. Many of those jobs would move to the United States.

TELEVISION EXCERPTS

MSNBC5/1 3/20052:1 9:22 PMNewscaster : Joining us to talk a little bit more about the strategic implications of today'sannouncement is MSNBC anal yst Montgomery Meigs. Thank you so much for taking thetime today. Meigs: Good to be on the show. Newscaster: It's unusual when you thinkabo ut closures and the loss ofjobs as something that might be helpful and might make auni t or a situation better. But can you explain to us why this realignment wi ll make themi litary stronger? Meigs: Sure. There are three things that I see. First of all as generalefficiency, a lot of these face tha t's are being closed can be consolidated with otherfunctions . And can you get more things done for the equivalent DoD dollar . Efficiency

that is the first principle. Secondly, there is some joint consolidation going on. So, forinstance, the third Army headquarters, which is now in Atlanta, is being moved to ShawAir Force Base where it will consolidate with the Air Force headquarters that also worksfor U.S. central command. So that will make planning easier, coordination, etc. andenhance jointness. Finally within the Army, Chief of the StafTof the Army is breakingdown some of the tribal barriers . He's consolidating the infantry and armor schools, anumber of the logistics schools. That way you'll get much more open minded culture inthe office corps of the army. Newscaster: Knowing Secretary Rumsfeld's vision of amore compact Army, do you think this was something that, perhaps, was always in theplanning or is it a result of fighting two wars? Meigs: Well, I think it's a combination.For instance, foreman was up for election last time. This time they're going to close it andmove the headquarters a little further north in the state of Virginia. And there are somethings that have changed as a result ofwhat we've seen in the last 10 years. Now the armyis going to have more brigades than it has in the past. You have to have a place to putthem. Some of that is deflected in the BRAC numbers . Newscaster: We talk about allthe positive things that will come out of this. What is the difficult thing? What is thechallenging thing? The not so great news today? Meigs : Well, you got to have somecommunities that are going to lose jobs. That ' s a painful transition process.

Fox News Channel511312005 1:17:35 PMInterviews with Tom Markham (Association of Defense Communities) and Jim Saxton

(New Jersey, Congressmen)Those that are losing will be trying to reverse the signatures of the Pentagon. That's whatthis process is about. Linda Vester: Tom, you have been through this. You know whatthe fight is like when you try to save your base . How often is it a winning fight? TomMarkham : Those hit during the first four rounds of closures said less than 10% of thecommunities were able to get off the list. We don't know about this round but that wasthe case in the last round. Linda: This is democracy in action, but, you know,communities who are supportive of the military are being forced to compete with eachother to stay alive. Rep. Saxton : That's true. While, less than 10% of the bases may havegotten offbefore this is not a mission impossible task to get a base ofTthe list. I wouldpoint out in 1989 and 1991 both those round of BRAC, Fort Dix was on the list and it gotoff In 1993 McGuire Air Force base was on the list and it got off So, we've got a goodrecord ofknowin g how to do this in New Jersey, we'll spare no effort to try to make ourcase. Linda: I want to bring a member of the audience. Tum out this fellow is a retiredMarine . I would have thought you would say not to close the base. But instead, you saidno, close them down . Audience Member: I'm assuming all the work that's being donethere can be done elsewhere. The reason they are closing them is they are obsolete or notneed. If they are not needed they should close. Linda : How well do the communities gethandled after the fact in terms of retraining and stuff like that? Tom Markbam: There issome retraining that goes on. However, the main challenge after these bases do close isthe economic recovery. As an example, in Denver we have been closed for 10 years. Welost 700 jobs and $290 million a year spent on the local economy. Today we have 20,000people living there, new houses, and a $4 billion economic impact. The message is thatthere is life after closure but it's difficult.

Headline News5/13/2005 11 :3 1:50Newscaster: Tens of thousands of military and civilian personnel could lose their jobs.Jamie Mcintyre joins us live from the Pentagon with details. Hi, Jaime. Mcintyre: HiKathleen. It started as a major military operation this morning lone capitol hill as severalinch-thick base closure recommendation report was delivered to capitol hill wherelawmakers are very interested to hear whether their particular bases are being closed orscaled back or in some cases actually gaining, according to this Realignment planreleased by the pentagon. Lets look at some of the major closures. Thirty-three majorbases . Here are some ofthe top ones around the country. New England would lose thesubmarine base at New London and also the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard targeted there.The naval station in Mississippi is on the targeted list. Cannon air force base in Texas aswell as Ellsworth air force base where they have the b-2 bombers. The Pentagon plans tokeep the planes, just move them to other facilities. In some cases some of the bases aregaining in some personnel and responsibility. Again, twenty-nine of thirty-three majorclosures. twenty-nine bases where they are going to have major reductions. Then anotherforty-nine bases will be gaining either in personnel or missions under this Pentagon plan.which now goes to the base closure commission over the next couple ofmonths. Thatbegins its work on Monday when the Pentagon will formally present this plan andDefense Secretary Rumsfeld will testify favor of it. One of the arguments they are goingto make is that tbis plan has been carefully worked out, the pieces are interdepend ent andto change one base could affect the whole plan. The commission is going to have to lookat the whole thing in entirety whether it sends recommendation to the president andultimately to Capitol Hill. Newscaster: Is there the possibility that the commissioncould change its mind about some of these closures or is this really a done deal?Mcintyre: well, in the past, the base closure commission has made some changes. but theprospect for any particular base is going to be kind of tough. The pentagon has spent along time working up the rational e for each one of these. They say it is based on militarynecessity. They say they need the savings that have come from the base closings. Thewhole reason, there is an independent commission to do this is that if it were left up tocongress, no base would ever be closed because members of Congress would simplystall.

CNN5113/2005 1:05:03 PMNewscaster: There's a lot of people crying foul already Jamie. We've received so manye-mails and viewers wanting to know. sort of asking the direct question. durin g a time of""operation Iraqi freedom"" and other ongoing wars. why base closures? What' s thestrategy. militarily for safety here at home. homeland security and, of course, fightingwars overseas? J amie Mcintyre: it's a very simple answer is, they need the money. Thatsavings that I talked about, the Pentagon needs that money for better weapons, bettermaterials, to better use the forces. Right now they're spending a lot of money on facilitiesthey don't really need. They haven't been able to close them since 1995 because of thepolitics and the very sensitive nature of these kinds ofclosings. Because in particular, in1995, there were accusations of people playing politics with the list because of the

presidential election. It made it almost impossible for the Congress to agree to a round.They want to get as much savings as they can to make better use of the taxpayers' money.When it comes down to the base in your backyard people don't want to see that go.

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I apo l ogize up f r ont f o r the s hort l ead on t h i s one.OSO PA occ a siona lly hosts a g r oup of ret i red military personn el who now s e rve a s mediaa na l y s t s ( " t a l k i ng head s") -- t hey a r e scheduled t o be i n t he Pent agon on Thu r sday , 16J une from 1130-13 45 . Age nda is attached .La s t week, e SD asked f o r t he Chairman t o part i c ipate ; he ' s on l ea ve . Gen Pace hasi ndicated h is schedu l e i s too bus y on Thu r sday , s o we a re now l ooking for a notherge ne ral /f lag o f ficer t o appr opriatel y represent t he Joint Staff with this group .Ot her spe a kers i nc l ude Ac t i ng De ps ec De f Engla nd, Pr i nc ipal De put y As s i stant Sec r e ta ry f orI nterna tional Se curity Af f ai rs Pe ter Fl ory , a nd a fi nal wrap · up wi t h Se c r etary Rums f e ld .Requ i r e me nt i s 30 mi nute s , f rom 1200- 1230 , and ra the r t han p rovide them wi t h a de t a i ledbri e f , t hi s g r oup pre fe r s the opportuni ty t o have a di s c us s i on (Q&A . ) Not s ure i f t heDirect or or J 3 woul d be i n t e r e s t ed/ava i l ab l e, bu t I would app r e c i a te your he l p with t h i sone.

As of this morning, t he list o f r e ti r ed mil i t a ry a naly s t s who are con f i rmed t o attend :Colone l Ca r l Kenn e t h Allard (USA, Reti r ed )Li e u t e nant Genera l Frank (Ted) B. Campbe l l (USAF, Ret i r ed)Lieutenant Colone l Bi ll Cowan (USMC, Retired)Mr. J ed Babb in (USAF , J AG)Ma j o r Dana R. Dil l on (USA, Re tired )Co lone l J ohn Garre t t (USMC, Retired )Command Se r gea n t Ma j o r St e ve n Greer (USA, Reti red )Admiral David E . J e r e miah (USN, Reti red)Lieutenan t Co lonel Robert L . Maginni s (USA, Re t i r ed)Col onel J e f f McCausland (USA, Ret ired )Ge ne r a l Mon t gomery Me igs (USA, Re t ired)Maj o r F . Andy Me ssi ng , Jr . (USAR, Ret ired)Cap tain Chu ck Nas h (USN, Re t i r ed )General William L . Na s h (USA, Retired )Wayne Simmons (USN, Reti r e d )

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Secretary Donald H. RumsfeldMeeting with Milita ry Defense Analysts

Thursday, June 16,2005,_ ,........,Deputy Secretary of Defense Conferen ce Room The Pentagon

AGENDA

11:30 a.m, Welcome and Introduction

• Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs Ms. Allison Barber

11:31 a.m. Update on Detainee Operations

• Acting Deputy Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy Gordon England

12:00 p.m. Update on Glohal Operations

• Joint Staff - TBD

12:30 p.m, Update on GWOTllraq Operations

• Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Security Affairs Peter Flory

1:00 p.m. Break

1:15 p.m. Discussion and Questions with Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld

1:45 p.m. Meeting Concludes

• Ms. Allison Barber

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Alliso n,we're experi enc ing s o me schedul i ng issues -- is i t at a l l possib l e t o swap t he J oint Sta f fblo c k o f t i me (12 00 - 123 0) with Mr. Flory' s blo c k o f time ? (123 0 - 130 0 ) ? ?This would a llo w t i me f or Gen c onway t o do the press b r ie f i ng wi th Mr . Di Rita begi n ningat 11 30 , and s ti ll get over to the Mil Ana l ysts on t i me .ThoughtS? ??V i RKatie

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>:> he' s more than we l c ome t o si t at t he head o f t he t a ble if that feel s mor e natural . s e c d e fprefers to s t a nd.:> a s mentioned, the a na l ys ts have a s ke d about recrui t ment and r e t e n t ion issues , so t hegenera l will mos t like ly be asked t ho s e questio ns.:> a l s o, i j ust heard f rom the deputy 's office t ha t he (sec england) is g o ing to be s peakingabout QDR, BRAC , NSPS and Acquisition, fyi.>:> t ha n k s

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:> hi there .:> tha nks fo r t he phone c al l . attached is t he most rece n t a genda.:> p lea se l e t me know what a / v ne e d s the genera l wi l l have . a lso, if t he r e i s any thinghe woul d like handed out , i wil l ne e d i t nI t 16 00 s o t ha t i c a n p r e pare the brie fing booksf o r the a na l y sts .:> genera l l y, we do not have a podi u m. secdef s t a nd s at the he ad o f the tabl e s o t hati t feel s like mor e o f a d i s c uss i on , so t ha t' s the f o rmat we 're as s uming a ll of our

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Cot, OCJCS/PAFrida June 17 20052:21 PM

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MAJ,JCS SJSMIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLIFT REQUEST

perhaps you can help dire c t me on how to best s upport this action:

SecCef , J3, and othe r s met wi th severa l ret ired military analysts yes terday. Theydi scussed a number of i ssues, wi t h great empha s i s on GTMO and De t a ine e Opera tions. Se cDefencouraged t he m a l l to go t o GTMO and see f or t hems e l ve s . OSO PA i s currently worki ngwi t h SOUTHCOM to ar r ange a v i si t t o GTMO by thes e mili t ary ana l ys t s soon - - could be a ssoon as firs t week or two in July. I' ll get t he date from SOUTHCOM once they have f i rmedup a plan.OSC PA has taken members of this group on s imilar trips -- jus t not t o GTMO.

Question/role for Joint Staff i nvolve s the air t r a nsport a t i on . I believe t he intent is t ofly t hem in e a r l y and ou t l a ter on t he same day .What can we do t o e nsure dedicated airl if t is available to support this visi t ?

Thanks fo r your help .Vi RKat ie

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~~~~~~~~apt. JCS SJSThorp. Frank. CAPT. OCJCSIPARE: Mil ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLIFT REQUEST

~~~ - Below is a sample; these a r e the f olk s who at tended t he roundtable wi th SecDef (a ndDJ3 ) last week.

The g r o up is made u p of r etired mili tary wh o serve a s "t a l k i ng bea d s " for v a rious media.OSD PA has c oord inated other v i s i t s in t he pas t t o he lp e du c a t e them on wha t 's reallygoing on in Iraq, e tc.The y also d o a c onference call with t h e m on a r ecurring basis.We (J o i n t Staff ) usual ly provid e a J3 ops briefer for t he ca l l. Occa s i on a lly the Chairmano r t h e Vi c e d o t he call -- d e pendi ng on t he top i c / i s sue at hand . CJCS / VCJCS try t o mee twith t h e ret ired mi l itary ana lysts each time they actua l l y ha v e a group of t h em i n thePentago n , b u t last week's schedule was t oo har d , wi t h the Chairman o ut of t o wn , so t he OJ3fi lled in .Hop e t h a t h e l p s .

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Katie, do y ou have a n y details o f t h i s g r oup ?

Capt ain , JAGC, US NavyLega l Counsel t o t he Chairman of t he Joint Ch iefs of Staff

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Conf i rmed Retired Mili t a ry Analysts :Colonel Carl Kenne t h AllardLi e u t e na n t General Frank (Ted) B .Li e ute na n t Colone l Bi l l CowanMr. J ed Ba bbinMa j o r Da n a R. Di l l o nColon e l J ohn GarrettCommand Sergeant Major Steven Gr e e rAdmiral David E. J eremi a hLi e ute nant Co lone l Robert L. MaginnisCo l o nel J e f f Mc Ca u s l and ,Ge neral Mon t g ome ry Meig sMa j o r F . Andy Me s s i ng, J r.Captain Chuck Na s hGe n e r a l Wi l l i a m L . Na s hWa y n e Simmons

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Norty,

Our fo lks have been running the traps.affairs activities such as this per DOD

We can provide dedicated45 15 .13 -R, Chapter 3 .

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~e coordinated thi s wi th our pol icy experts and OCJCS/LC.

Per OSD Exec Sec yesterday, once OSD/PA and OSD Transportation policy coordinate andDEPSECDEFapproves the travel, exec sec wi ll transmit to JS (J4) f o r validation and taskingUSTRANSCOM . We have already given TRANS COM a heads up.

We 'll finish wo r k i ng it with the OSD fo l ks on Monday and keep you i n f o rme d on progress .

VRDuncan

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Sent: Sat Jun 18 10:07 :51 2005Subject : RE : MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO : AIRLIFT REQUEST

Duncan, please take for action. Could we get this approved for SAAM? Thanks. vir,Norty.

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Sir :

During Thursday 'S SecDe f session wi th military analysts, he apparently e ncouraged themt o go t o Gitmo a nd s ee t h i ng s for t h e ms e l v e s . OSD PA is worki ng t his with SOUTHCOM bu tquestion has arisen as t o what we can d o wi th dedicated DoD lift to support getting t hemin a n d out o f Gitmo . Recommend passing this to the J 4 team and letting them work it.

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Perhaps you can help direct me on how t o best suppo r t t his action :

SeeDe f , J3 , and othe r s me t with s everal retired military analysts yester day . Theydiscussed a number o f iss ues, wi t h great emphasi s on GTMQ and Detainee o p e r a tion s . Se e De fencouraged t hem all to go t o GTMO and see f o r themselves . a so PA is currently wor kingwi t h SOUTHCOM t o a rrange a vis i t to GTMO by these mi li t ary ana l ysts soon -- could be a ss oon as f irst wee k or two i n July. I'll get the date from SOUTHCOM onc e they have firmedup a plan .a SD PA has t a ken members o f this group on simi lar t rips -- jus t no t to GTMO.

Question/role f o r J oint St a f f i nvolve s the a ir transportat i on . I believe the intent is tofly them in early and ou t l a t e r on the same day.Wha t can we do t o ensure dedicated airl ift i s availab l e t o suppor t this visit?

Thanks for your help .VI RKatie

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I was g i v e n your n a me a s a point o f c o n t ac t f or t h i s Airlift Re ques t - - is t hat a c cu r a t e ?I f s o, p l eas e g ive me a c all . I understand t h a t t h i s g r o up i s sche d ule to. vis i t GTMOSa turday , 2 5 J une ...V! RCo l Kat ie Ha dd o c k , USMC

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Mi c h a e l D, MG, J CS VDJS; COL, J 4Subjec t: RE: MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AI RLIFT REQUEST

Thank s , Dunca n . vI r, No r t y .

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To: Sc hwa rtz, No rton A, Lt Ge n , JCS DJ" ~~~~~~~::;;~.Cc: Harn i tchek , Mark D, RDML, J CS J 4; COL JCS , J 4;Ha d do c k El l e n (Ka t i e ) , Col, OCJCS/PA; ~ Cap t , JCS SJS ;

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Norty ,

Ou r f olks ha v e been r unni n g the t raps.affairs act ivi t ies s uch as t hi s per DOD

We c a n prov i d e ded i c a ted4 51S . 13 - R, Chap ter 3.

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We coor di n a ted this wi t h o u r p ol icy expert s a nd OCJCS ! LC.

Pe r OSO Ex ec Sec yes t e r d ay , o nce OSO/ PA and OSO Tr a nsp o r tat i o n Policy c oor dinate a ndOEPSECOEFa pp r o ves t he t r avel, ex e c sec wi ll t r a n s mit t o JS (J 4) f o r v alid a t ion a nd t a s k ingUSTRANS COM. We h av e a lready g i ven TRANSCOM a heads up .

we ' l l fi n ish wo r k ing it with t h e OSO f o l k s on Mo nd a y and keep yo u i n f o rme d on p r ogre s s .

VRDunc a n

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Duncan, please take for action . Could we get this approved for SAAM? Thanks . vir,Norty .

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Sir:

During Thursday's SecDef session with military analysts, h e apparently e ncouraged the mt o go to Gitmo and see things for themselves . OSD PA i s working this wi t h SOUTHCOM butquestion ha s arise n as to what we can do with dedicated 000 l i ft t o support gett ing themin a nd out of Gitmo. Recommend passing this to the J4 t e a m and l e t ti ng t hem work it .

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Pe r h a p s y ou c an h e lp d irec t me on ho w to bes t s up po r t this ac tion:

SecDef, J 3, and others met with several ret ired mil itary analysts yesterday . Theydiscussed a number o f issues, with g rea t emphasis on GTMO and Detainee Operations. SecDefencouraged them a ll to go to GTMO and see for thems e lves. OSD PA i s c urrently workingwith SOUTHCOM to arrange a visit to GTMO by t he s e mi l i t a r y analysts soon -- cou l d be ass oo n as f irst week or two in J uly . I 'll get the date from SOUTHCOM once t hey h av e f irmedup a p lan .OSD PA h a s t a ke n members of this group on simi lar tr ips -- j u s t not t o GTMO .

Question/rol e for Joint Staff i nv o l v e s the air t ransportat i on . I b e lieve the intent is tofly them in early and out l a t e r o n t h e same day.What can we do to ensure ded i c a t e d airli ft is avai lable to support this visit ?

Thanks for your help.Vi RKatie

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Thorp, Frank. CAPT, OCJCS/PATuesday, June 21, 2005 1:19 PMHaddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCSlPA;"';;;;:;;;c.;'T'"_ ....Capt, JCS SJSRe: Mil ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLIFT-REQUEST

Th i is perfectly legal ... Or the US mili tary has been b r e a ki ng the law f o r 24+ years ....

PIs proce ed aggre s i vely with plann ing this whi le we work t his i s s ue ...

Frank Tho r pCap t.a i n , USN

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~!:~.- Below is a sample ; t hese a r e the f o l ks who attended the r oundtab l e wi th SecOef (andOJ3 ) l as t. week.

The group i s made up of reti r ed mil i t ary who s erve as Wt a l king heads " f o r va rious media.OSO PA has coordina ted other vi sits i n t he pa s t t o help educate t hem on what 's reallygo i ng on i n I r aq, e t c.They also do a con f erence call with t hem on a recurr i ng basis.We (J o i nt St aff) usually prov ide a J3 ops br i efer f or t he cal l. occasionally t he Cha i rmanor the vice do the cal l -- depending on the topi c /issue a t hand. CJ CS /VCJCS try t o meetwi th t he re t ired mili t a ry analysts each t i me they actua l l y have a g r oup of them i n t hePentagon , but las t week's s chedu l e was t oo hard, wi t.h the Cha i rman out o f t own, so the OJ 3filled in .Hope that he lps.

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Confi rmed Re tired Mi l itary Analysts:Colonel Carl Kenneth Al lardLieutenant Gene r a l Frank (Ted) B.Lieutenant Colonel Bil l CowanMr . Jed BabbinMa jor Dana R. DillonColonel J ohn GarrettCommand Se r geant Ma jor Steven Gr ee rAdmiral David E. J eremiahLieutenant Colonel Robert L. Maginni sColonel Jeff McCausla nd ,Gene r al Montgome ry Me igsMaj o r F. Andy Me s s ing , Jr .Captain Chuck NashGe neral Will i a m L. Na s hWayne Si nvnons

r i inaI Messa e- - - --Fr om: Capt, JCS SJSSent : on ay, une , 00 5 6:18 AMTo: Haddock , El l en (Kat i e l, Col , OCJCS/ PASubject: RE: MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AI RL I FT REQUEST

REQUEST

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Cap tain, J AGC, US NavyLe g a l Counse l t o t he Cha irma n o f t he Join t Chiefs of St aff

-- - - - original Me s s age - - - - -From: McNabb , Dunc a n J, Lt Gen , JCS J 4Sen t : Sund ay, June 19, 2005 10:11 PMTo : Schwart z , Norton A, Lt Ge n, JCS D

Cc: Ha r nitchek, Ma r k D, RDML , J CS J4; "ll(ll)~~;;;;;;;;~:C;O;L~ JCS, J4;Haddoc k El len Ka t ie ) , Col, OCJCS/PA ; ~ Capt, JCS SJS ;

CAPT, J CS SJS; J - 4 JLOC Personnel ; Harnitchek, MarkD, RDML, JCS J4; COL, J 4Subject : Re : MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO : AIRLIFT

No rty ,

Our folks have been running the traps.a f f airs activi ties such a s t h i s per DOD

We c an provide d ed i cated4 51 5. 13 - R, Chap t e r 3 .

airli ft for public

We coordinated th i s wi th our po l i c y e xperts a nd OCJCS/LC .

Per OSD Exe c Sec yes t erday , once OSD/ PA and OSD Transportation Policy coordina t e a ndDEPSECDEFapproves the t r a ve l, e x e c s e c will transmit to J S (J4) for validation a nd task ingUSTRANSCOM. We have a l r e a dy g i ve n TRANSCOM a he a d s up.

We 'll f inish wor k i ng i t with the OSD f o l k s on Mo nd ay and ke e p you i nforme d on p r og r ess.

VRDuncan

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J - 4 JLOC Pe rsonnelSe n t : Sa t Jun 18 10:07 :51 20 05Subj ect : RE : MI L ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLIFT REQUEST

Dunca n, please t ake f o r a c tion . Could we get this approve d for SAAM? Thanks . Vi r,Norty .

- - - - - Orig iFrom: CAPT , JCS SJSSent : Saturday, June 18 , 2005 8 : 5 8 AMTo: Schwartz, Norton A, Lt Gen, JCS DJS

Cc : McNab b, Duncan J, Lt Gen, JCS J4; Harnitche k, M~r~k~D::::R:D:M:L:::J:C:S::J:4];COL, J CS, J 4; Ha ddo c k , El len (Katie) , Col, OCJCS/PA; Capt, J CS SJSSubj ect: FW: MI L ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLIFT REQUEST

Sir:

Du r ing Thursda y'S SecDef s ession with military ana l ysts , he apparent ly enc ou r age dt o go t o Gitmo and s ee things for the ms e lves . OSD PA is wo r k i ng t h i s wi th SOUTHCOMquestion has arisen as t o what we can do wi t h dedi c a t e d DoD lif t t o support ge t t i ng

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in and o ut of Gi t mo. Re c o mmend passing t hi s to the J4 team and le t ting t h e m work it.

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AssistantJoint Staff

MAJOCJCS / PA; 1!~;;::;;;:;;;:;;:;;:;;:JW!llii:.,LCDR, JCS OCJCS \ PA;"-----_.......JCS SJS

ANALYSTS TO GTMO : AIRLIFT REQlJBSTSubject :

---- -Origina l Message---- -Fr o m: Haddock, El len (Kat i e) , Col , OCJCS /PASent: Frida, J u ne 17 , 2005 2:21 PMTo: CAPT, JCSCc: OCJCS /PA; LJCS Ma j , OCJCS /PA;

Perhaps you can help d i r ect me on how t o bes t support this action:

SecDef , J3 , a nd others met with s eve ral r etired mi litary analysts yesterday_ Theydiscussed a n umber o f issues, wi th gre a t emphasis on GTMO and Detainee Operations. SecDefe n c o u r aged the m all to go to GTMO and see for themselves. OSD PA is cur rent ly workingwith SOUTHCOM to a rrange a visit t o GTMO by these mili t a ry analysts soon -- coul d be assoon as firs t week or two in J u ly. I 'll get the date from SOUTHCOM once they have firmedu p a p l an .OSD PA has take n members o f thi s g roup o n s i milar t rip s -- j ust not t o GTMO .

Question/ role for Joint Sta f f i nvolves the a i r transpor tat ion. I believe the i n t ent is tofly the m i n e a r l y a n d out l a t e r on the same d ay .What c an we do t o ensure d e d ica t e d ai r l ift is av a ila ble to s upport t h i s v i s i t?

Thanks for your he lp .VIRKatie

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Col , JCS J4Tuesday, June 21. 2005 1:46 PMHaddock, Ellen (Katie), Col. OCJCSlPAJ -4 JLOC PersonnelRE: MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLIFT REQUEST

Kat ie ,This i s t he right place . .. 1 '11 have t he Batt l e Capt ca l l you. We'll need t o connec t

the dots wi t h DoD Exec Sec.

-----Or i gina l Me s s age -----Fr o m; Ha d d o c k , El len (Kat i e) . Col , OCJ CS / PASe n esda un 2 2005 12:48 PM

To: Col, JI!S!!Jt4====::::Jcc • COL, JeS , J4 ; CDR, OCJCS /PA ; '- 1 LTC ,OCJ CS / PA -Sub j ec t : FW : MI L ANALYSTS TO GTMO : AIRLIFT REQUEST

COL .... ,

I was given your name as a poi nt of contact f or thi s Airl i ft Request - - i s that accurate?I f so , ple a s e gi ve me a call. I unde r s tand that thi s g roup is schedule t o v i s i t GTMOSa t urday, 2 5 June . . .Vi RC K i Ha ddoc k . USMC

- -- - -ori g i na l Message-----From: Sc hwartz, Norton A, Lt Gen, JCS DJSSent : Monday , June 20, 2005 5;57 AMTo ; McNabb Duncan J, Lt Gen , JCS J 4Cc ; CI V, JCS SJSj Ha rni t che k , Ma rk D, RDML, J CS J4;

COL, JCS, J4; Tho Frank CAPT OCJ CS/PAj Hadd cEl len Kat 1e, Col , OCJ CS/ PAj cap t , J CS SJS ;

JSj J - 4 JLOC Personnel; Maples, Mi chae l D, MG, JCSVDJS; COL, J4Subject: RE: MI L ANALYSTS TO GTMO : AI RL IFT REQUEST

Thanks, Duncan. VIr, Norty.

---- - Or i gina l Me s sage - - - - -From: MCNabb , Duncan J , Lt Gen, JCS J 4Se nt: Sun day , J une 19 , 2005 10 : 11 PM

To : Schwar tz , Norton A, Lt Gen , J CS DJ ~~;:;;::::~~~I_Cc : Har ni tchek , Ma r k D, RDML, JCS J4 j J CS, J4 jddc tie ) , Co l , OCJCS/ PA; Cap t, JCS S J Sj

~~~~:-~",~~~~~;;~~~~;'];J - 4 JLOC Pe r s onne l ; Harn i t che k , Ma r k~ , RDML , J CS J4 ; COL, J 4Su b j e c t : Re : MI L ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AI RLIFT REQUEST

Norty ,

OUr folks have been running the t r aps .af f a irs activi tie s s uch a s t his per DOD

We can p rov ide dedicated4515. 13 -R , Chap ter 3.

airl i ft fo r publ i c

We coordinat ed t his with ou r po l icy e xpe r t s and OCJCS/LC.

Per OSD Exe c Se c ye s t e r day, once OSD/ PA and OSD Transportat ion po licy coordina te and

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DEPSECDEFappr ove s the travel, exec sec will t r a ns mit t o JS (J 4) f o r v a lidat ion a nd tas k i ngUSTRANSCOM. We have a lready given TRANSCOM a heada up.

We 'll f i nish work ing it wi th the OSD f o l ks on Monday and keep you i n f o rme d on progress.

VRDuncan

Sent f r o m my Bl a c kBe r ry Wireless Handhe ld

---- -Original Measage-- -- -From: Schwartz , Norto n A, Lt Gen ,To : McNabb , Dunc a n J, Lt Gen , JCSCC: Ha r n i t c hek , Mark D RDML , J CSCOL, JCS, J4<e l l e n. haddock

JCS DJS <no r ton . sJ4 <duncan .mc nabJ4 <mar k. ha r n i t c hek

Haddock El l en (Kat i e), Col ,apt, J CS SJSCAPT , JCS SJS

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Duncan , please take for action.Norty .

Could we get this a pproved f o r SAAM? Thanks. Vi r,,

- u u Or i g iFrom: CAPT, JCS SJSSent: Satur a y, une 8 , 2 5 8,58 AMTo: Schwartz , Norton A, Lt Gen, JCS DJSCc: McNabb, Duncan J, Lt Gen , JCS J4; Ha rnitche k , Mark~D:::RD::ML:::'::J:c:s::J:i. "COL, JCS , J4 ; Haddock, Elle n (Kat i e) , Col, OCJ CS! PA; • Capt, JCS SJSSubject: FW : MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIR LIFT REQUEST

Sir:

During Thursday's SecDef sess ion wi th mili tary analysts, he apparent ly encouraged themto g o to Gitmo a nd see things fo r t hems e l ves . OSO PA i s working this with SOUTHCOM b u tquestion has ari sen as to what we can do wi t h d e d i c a ted 000 li ft to s uppor t get t ing the min a nd out o f Gi tmo. Re c ommend pa s sing thi s to t he J4 t eam a nd lett ing them work i t .

CAPT USNExe cu t 1v e Ass1stant

c·"-.,,,.....MI L ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIR LIFT REQUESTSubject:

-----Or i g i nal Measage- - - - -Fr om : Haddock . El len (Kat i e) , Col , OCJCS!PASent : u n 2 05 2:2 1 PM

To: CAPT , JCS'~~~;;';;:::li:!s..~~!!icc . CDR OCJCS! PA;,! LTC OCJCS!PA ; "'""...,.=~"=,=.......JL.l"""JCS Ma j . OCJCS! PA; • LCDR, JCS OCJCS\ PA; L __.....

Perhaps you c a n help di rect me on how to bes t support t his action :

SecDef , J 3, a nd others met with s e ve r a l ret ired military analysts ye s t e r da y . They

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d i s cus s ed a numbe r of issues, wi th great emphasis on GTMO and Detaine e Oper ations . SecDefe ncouraged t hem all to go t o GTMO and s ee f or themselves. OSD PA is currently workingwith SOUTHCQM t o arrange a visit t o GTMQ by t hese mi li tary analysts soon . - could be assoon as first week or two i n July . I 'll get t he da te from SOUTHCOM once t hey have firmedup a plan .OSD PA has taken members of this group on similar t r i ps -- just no t to GTMO .

Question/role for Joint Staff involves the air t ransportation. I believe t he intent is t ofly them i n early and ou t later on the s ame day.What can we do t o ensure dedicated a irl ift is available t o support this v i s i t ?

Thanks for you r help .V!RKatie

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Haddock, Etlen (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PA

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.. Capt. USMC, OAS~!-P~A;;;;~;~ .~;;;;=Thorp, Frank CAPT PA DR, OCJCS/PA;~

OCJCSIP . LTC, JCS J4; Lawrence, Dallas, OASD-P KI)

J, Col, JCS J4; LlCdr, OASD-PA '------~GTMO AIRLIFT REQUEST

I und@rstand you are the OSD PA POe f or the flight r @quest for r etired mi litary analyststo go to GTMO.I ' ve tal k@d with the POC at our J 4, and unde rstand t his to be the process.

1) OSD PA submits requ@st through SecDef's ExecSe c2} ExecSec approv@s request , and forwards to J 4 (memo, via email)3 ) J 4 gets t he approved request and tasks TRANSCOM t o execute

Watch Off icer in J 4 (LTCexpec t the r eque s t, but needs more details ,

number of PAX-- fl ight from where t o where-- departure /return da tes & t imes

woul d like to p r ov i de TRANSCOM a head s up tosuch a s :

hone numbe r s that may be usefu l :

OSD PA Press Desk : LCDR

When I spoke wi th others on this list earl ier. I unde r s tood Saturday as t he possible da t e ;now und er s t and t hat mi gh t change to Sunday.Also understand that t his group mayor may no t be combi ned with a CODEL on Fri /Sat ...

I will be l e av i ng in about an hou r t o go to my s on ' s graduat ion, but I'll be back firstthing in the mo r ning i f you need anything e l s e from me on this.ViRCol H

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCSIPAFrida Jul 08 2005 2:59 PM)(8) APT, JCS S S)(8) Col JCS J4; )(8) Ca t. USMC, OASD-PA; )(8)

CDR, OCJCS/PA LTC, OCJCS/PA Maj, \!:O~C'::JC~S~IP~A:-'"FW: MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLIFT REQUEST

Just got a cal l from aSD PA action officer, wor ki ng a r eturn trip to GTMO for t he Ret i r edMilitary Analysts .Between weather, CODELs, etc., the date jumped around a bit, bu t they are scheduled to goTuesday, 12 July .Unfortuna t ely, the airlift support has not materiali zed. I understand they 've d i s cus sedwi t h each of the s ervices, but nothing yet. n:~:::::JThe call I got was i n hope s of Joint Staff assisting with airlif t - - I know Col .he l pe d ou t t he last time, and our JLOC team made t h i s happe n. Want t o make sur e theDirector is aware o f a similar r eque s t for support (again) .

I 'm off to a me e t i ng , and wi l l try to stop by af terwards to discuss in more de t ail.VI RKa t ie

--- --original Message-----From: Schwart z, Norto n A, Lt Ge n, JCS DJSSent: Mo nda y , Jun e 20, 2005 5 : 57 AMTo: McNabb Dun c a n J , Lt Gen, JCS J4Cc : Cl V, JCS SJS ; Harni tchek, Ma rk D, RDML, J CS J 4;J CS J 4; Thorp , Frank , CAPT, OCJCS/ PAi Haddock, Elle n (Katie), Col , OCJ CS PA, ~

Capt, JCS SJS; CAPT, JCS SJSi J-4 J LOC Pe r s on ne l ; Map l e s,Michael D, MG, JCS VDJS; ~ COL, J4Subject : RE : MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLI FT REQUEST

Thanks, Duncan . Vir, Nor ty .

D, RDML ,Subj ect:

Nor t y ,

Our folks ha v e b e e n running the traps .a f f ai r s activi t i es such as thi s pe r DOD

REQUEST

We can provide dedi c a t e d4 51 5 . 13 - R , Chapter 3 .

airli ft fo r publi c

We coordina ted this with our policy experts and OCJCS/LC .

Per OSD Exec Sec y e ster da y , once OSD/PA and OSD Transportation po l i cy coordinate andDEPS ECDEFapproves the trav e l , e xec sec wi l l transmi t to JS (J4) fo r validation and t a s k i ngUSTRANSCOM. We h av e already given TRANSCOM a heads u p.

We' l l f i nish wor k ing it with the OSD folks o n Monday and ke e p you i n f o rm e d on p r og r e s s.

VRDuncan

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- - - - - Or i g i nal Me s s age - - - - -From: Schwartz , Norton A, Lt Gen ,To: McNabb , Duncan J, Lt Gen , J CSCC; Harn i t c hek , Mark D, RDML , JCSCOL , JCS , J 4<el l e n. ha ddock

J -4 JLOC Pe r s o nneSent: Sat Jun 18 10: 07 : 51 2005Subj ec t : RB : MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AI RLI FT REQUEST

Duncan , please take for a c t i on. Could we get this a pproved f or SAAM? Thanks. vIr ,Nort y.

--- - -Or i gina l Me s s a ge - - - - -From: Rogers , Michael S , CAPT , JCS SJSSent: Sat urday , J une 18, 2005 8;58 AMTo ; Schwartz, Norton A, Lt Gen, JCS DJS I!!:::::::::::;:: :JCc ; McNabb , Duncan J , Lt Gen , J CS J4 ; Harnitchek, M~ir~~~~"~~~'

COL, JCS, J4 ; Haddock , Bl len (Kat i e) , Co l , OCJ CS/ PA; Capt, JCS SJSSubject: FW : MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO : AI RLIFT REQUEST...-------......

Si r :

Duri ng Th ur s day' s SecDef session with mi litary a naly s t s , he a pparently encouraged themt o go to Gi t mo a nd s e e things f o r themselves. OSD PA i s work ing this wi th SOUTHCOM butquest i on has arisen as to what we can do wi t h dedicate d DoD lif t t o support gett ing t hemin and out of Gitmo. Recommend pass ing this to the J4 tea m and l e t ting the m work i t .

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CAPT ~~-::'~~~~..... USNExe cu t i veD' r

OCJ CS! PA

MAJ , JCS SJSMIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO : AI RLIFT REQUEST

--- - - Or i g i na l Message - - - --From: Haddock , Ellen (Katie), Col ,Se nt: Fr iday , June 17, 2005 2 :21 PM

To: i ch el S, CAPT , JCS ~S~J~S;:::;;;;:::=::::'~.w;~...I>C,lJIs 1~;:;:::;::::::;::;:;::::;;;:lUl&l".Cc: OCJCS/PA; ~ / PA; .Maj, OCJC S/ PA; LCDR , JCS OCJCS\PA;

'----ISubj ect:

perhaps you can help di rect me o n how t o bes t support t h i s a c t i on:

SecDef , J3 , and others me t with s e ve r a l retired military analysts yesterday. Theyd i s c us s e d a number of i s sue s, with g rea t e mpha s i s o n GTMO a nd Detainee Opera tions. SecDefe nc o u r a ge d t hem all to go t o GTMO a nd s e e fo r themselves . OSD PA i s currently workingwi th SOUTHCOM t o arrange a visi t t o GTMO by these mi li t a ry analys t s soon - - coul d be a ssoon as fi r s t week or two i n July_ I ' l l get t he date f r o m SOUTHCOM once t hey have f irmedup a p l a n .OSD PA has taken members o f t h i s g r o up o n s i milar trips -- j u s t not to GTMO .

Question/rol e fo r Join t Sta f f invol ves the air t r a n s por t a t i on. I bel iev e t he i ntent is to

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fly th~m in early and out late r on t he same day.Wha t can W~ do to ensure dedi cated a irli ft i s available to support th i s visit?

Thanks f or your help.V IRKa tie

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ThO~~F~ra~n:kjCAPT, OCJCSlP'~~~==]." LTC. OCJCSJP, CDR. OCJCSJPA;..... --' Maj.

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Captain Thorp --Ou r JLOC is work i ng t his s e cond lift request f or Mi l Analys ts to g o to GTMO.Th e da t e bounc e d around a b it -- as o f Friday , the i n tent was fo r t h e m to go on Tues , 12July .V I RKat ie

- - - - - Original Message - ----From: Harnitchek , Mark 0 , RDML, JCS J 4Sent : Frida , Jul 0 8 , 2 005 4 : 35 PMTo: CAPT, J CS SJS ; Haddo ck ,Pe rCc: JCS J4 ;

LTC OCJCS PA·

SubJect :

El len (Kat i e) , Col , OCJ CS! PA; J-4 JLOC

C, OASD- PA; ~~;;;;;;;;;;;;(Maj , OCJCS!PA;

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of course .L...-.....

JLOC , PIs take t u r n o n thi s ... some prior history b e l ow .

thanks,L.-_..1

Ha r n i t c h e k , Mar k D, RDML, JCS

Messa e - - - - -CAPT, J CS SJS

08, 2005 3 : 36 PM(Katie), Col, OCJCS! PAi

- -- - - Ori ina lFr o m:Sent: Friday, J u lyTo: Haddo c k , El l e nJ4Cc:

Subject : RE : MIL

Admiral:

Coul d the good JLOC team p lease work this MILAIR li f t issue.

vir

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---- -Original Me s s age - - - - -From : Haddo c k , Blle n (Ka tie), Col, OCJ CS! PASe n t : Fri da Ju l 0 8 2005 2:59 PMTo : CAPT, J CS SJS

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Subject: FW: MI L ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLIFT REQUEST

Just go t a call from OSD PA a cti on o f f icer , working a r e t urn t r ip t o GTMO for t he RetiredMilitary Ana lysts.Betwee n weather , CODBLs, etc., the da te jumped a r ound a b it, but they are scheduled t o goTuesday , 12 J u ly .unfortunately , t he airli ft suppor t ha s not materialized. I understand the Y' ve discussedwi t h each o f the services , but noth i ng yet.The call I got was in hopes o f J oint Staf f assist ing with airlift -- I know col ~~~ 1helped out the last t i me , and our JLOC t e a m made t hi s happen . Want to make sure theDirector is aware of a s i mi l a r reque s t f or support (again) .

I 'm o f f to a mee ting. a nd will try t o stop by afterwards t o discuss in mor e detail.ViRKat ie

- - - - -Or i g i na l Message- - - - -From: Schwa rtz, Norton A, Lt Gen, J CS DJSSent: Monday , June 20, 2005 5:57 AMTo: , r.e een , JCS J4Cc: CIV, JCS SJS; Harnitc he k , Ma r k 0 , RDML, J CS J 4 ;

COL , J CS, J4; Tho , Fr a nk CAPT OCJCS /PA; Haddo'Ci!k~' =::;;;:;:1i e ) , Col , OCJ CS/ PA; Capt , J CS SJS ; .

:~:::';;:~~i..JS ; J- 4 JLOC Pe rsonnel ; Maples, Michael 0, MG , J CS

COL , J4RE: MI L ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AI RLIFT REQUEST

Thanks , Duncan. vi r, Norty.

-----Orig i na l Me s s age- u u

Fr om: McNabb , Dunc a n J, Lt Gen, JCS J 4Sent: Sunday, J une 19, 2005 10: 11 PMTo: Schwartz, Nor t on A, Lt ce n, JCS DJ SCc : Harni tchek, Mark D, ROML, JC S J4 ; OL JCS, J4 ;Haddock Ellen Kat i e ) , Col , OCJCS/PA; )to) capt , JCS SJS ;

C P J CS SJS' J -4 JLOC Personne l; Harnitchek, MarkD, RDML , JCS J4 ; COL, J 4Subject: Re : MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIR LIFT REQUEST

Nor t y ,

Our folks have been r unning thea f fa i r s activ i t i e s such a s thi s

trap s .pe r DOD

We c an provide dedicated4515 . 13 - R, Chapter 3 .

ai rlif t for publ ic

We coordinated this with our pol icy expe r t s and OCJCS/ LC.

Per OSO Exec Se c yes terday , once OSD/ PA a nd OSD Transportation Policy coor d ina te andOEPSECDEFapprove s the tra vel , exec sec wil l t r a ns mi t t o JS (J 4 ) for validation and tas k i ngUSTRANSCOM. We have a lready given TRANSCOM a heads up.

We 'll finish wo r k ing i t with the aSD folks on Monday and keep you informed on progr e s s .

VRDuncan

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- -- - - Or i g i na l Mesaage - - - - -From: Schwart z , Nor t on A, Lt Gen ,To: McNabb , Dunc an J , Lt Gen, J CSCC: Ha r n i t chek Ma rk D RDML J CSCOL, JCS , J 4<e llen . haddock

J -4 J LOC Personne l ....._---_......Sent: Sa t Jun 18 10 : 07 : 5 1 20 05Subject : RE: MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AIRLI FT REQUEST

Duncan, p lea s e t a ke fo r ac t i on . Cou l d we ge t t his a pp r oved f o r SAAM? Thank s . Vi r,Norty .

JCS SJSJ4;

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--- - -Origina l Me s s age - - - - -Fr om: Rogers , Mi c hael S, CAPT, JCS SJSSent : Sa t u r day , J une 18 , 2005 8: 5 8 AMTo : Schwa r t z, Norton A, Lt Ge n, JCS DJS

cc . McNabb , Dunca n J , Lt Ge n, J CS J4 ; Ha rn i t chek , Mlr~k~:D:, :RD:M:L:,::::J:C:S==i~;;;t."JCsSJs:-'"COL, J CS , J 4 ; Hadd ock , El len (Ka t i e ), Col , OCJCS/ PA;Subj e c t : FW: MIL ANALYSTS TO GTMO: AI RLI FT REQUEST

Sir:

Dur ing Thursday ' S Se cDe f session with mi litary anal ys t s, he a ppa r ently encou raged t hemt o go t o Gitmo and s ee t hing s f o r t hemse l ves. OSO PA i s working t hi s with SOUTHCOM butqu e s t i on has aris en a s t o what we can do wi t h ded i ca t ed 000 l i f t to suppor t g ett i ng t hemi n and out of Gi t ma . Recommend p ass i ng t hi s t o t he J4 t eam and l e t t i ng t hem wor k it .

As s i stantJ o int St a f f

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MEMORANDUM

CAPT Frank Thorp

Allison Barber

September 26, 2005

Outreach Meeting with Retired Military Analysts

OSD Public Affairs requests the Joint Staffs participation in an outreach briefing for RetiredMi litary Analysts assemhled hy the OASD·PA Office of Community Relations and PublicLiaiso n.

The purpose of this meeting is to provide the group with an operation al upda te on Operat ions inIraq, DoD 's hurricane recovery and relief efforts , and the military commissions process.

We request General Casey address the analysts on Operations in Iraq. The Ge nera l'spart icipation, consisting of brie f remarks and Q&A, is requested for 30 minutes, 9:30 a.m. to10:00 a.m., on Wedn esday, September 28, 2005, in room 3E928.

Hon. Paul McHale, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Hom eland Defense will be invited toprovide an update on recovery and relief efforts from 10:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. We requestsomeone from the Joint Staff address the ana lysts on the military ' s role in coordinating withHomeland Defense alongs ide Me. McHale.

Brigadier General Thomas Hemingway, Legal Advisor to the Appointing Authority, Office ofMilitary Commissions, wi ll be invited to address the ana lysts with an update on the militarycommission process from 10:30 to 11 :00. Deputy Ass istant Secretary Alli son Barber willconduct the meeting.

The list of invited Military Analysts is attached.

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RETIRED MILITARY ANALYSTS(As of July 20,2(05)

Colonel Ken Allard (USA, Retired)

Mr. Jed Babbin (AF, Form er JAG)

Admi ral Dennis C. Blair (USN, Retired)

Commander Peter Brookes (USN, Reserve)

Lieutenant General Frank B. Campbell (USAF, Reti red)

Dr. James Jay Carafano (LTC, USA, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Bill Cowan (USMC, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Gordon Cucullu (USA, Retired)

Majo r Dana R. Dillon (USA, Retired)

General Wayne A. Downing (USA, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Tim J. Eads (USA, Retired)

Dr. David M. Finkelstein (LTC, USA, Retired)

General Ronald Fogleman (USAF, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Rick Francona (USAF, Retired)

Colonel John Garrett (USMC, Retired)

Lieutenant General Buster Glosson (USAF. Retired)

Brigadier General David L.Grange (USA, Retired)

Command Sergeant Major Steven Greer (USA, Retired)

Colonel Jack Jacobs (USA, Retired)

Admiral David E. Jeremiah(USN, Retired)

General George Jou lwan (USA , Retired)

General William F. "Buck" Kernan (USA, Retired)

Colonel Glenn Lackey (USA, Retired)

Admiral Thomas Joseph Lopez (USN, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Robert L. Maginnis (USA, Retired)

Dr. Je lTMcCausland (Colonel, USA, Retired)

Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney (USAF. Retired)

General Montgomery Meigs (USA, Retired )

Major Andy Messing Jr. (USAR, Retired)

General Thomas S. Moo rman, Jr. (USAF, Retired)

Major General Michae l 1. Nardotti, Jr. (USA, Retired)

Captain Chuck Nash (USN, Retired)

General William L. Nash (USA, Retired)

General Glenn K. Otis (USA, Retired)

General Joseph Ralston (USAF, Retired)

Lieutenant General Erv Rokke (USAF, Retired)

Major General Robert H. Scales, Jr . (USA, Retired)

General H. Hugh Shelton (USA, Retired)

Majo r General Donald W. Shepperd (USAF, Retired)

Lieutenant Colonel Carlton Sherwood (USMC, Retired)

Command Sergeant Major Steve Short (USA, Retired)

Mr. Wayne Simmons (USN, Retired)

Major General Perry Smith (USAF, Retired)

Captain Martin L. Strong (USN, Retired)

Captain Robert R. Timberg (USMC, Retired)

Lieutenant General Bernard Traino r (USMC, Retired)

Major General Paul E. Vallely (USA, Retired)

Colonel John Warden (USAF, Retired)

General Larry D. Welch (USAF, Retired)

General Charles E. Wilhelm (USMC, Retired)

General Tom Wilkerson (USMC, Retired)

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Friday, October 14, 2005 10:25 AMHaddock , Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCS!PAW HAT THEY'RE SAYING: Military Analysts Back From Iraq

What The y 're Say ing . . .

Military Analys t s Back From I raq

Recent l y , a group of mi l itary analysts for various media ou t l e t s t raveled t o Iraq to gaina firs t-ha nd a s s e s s ment o f ongoing ope r a tions . Below is a synopsis o f t hei r r epor ts fromthe pas t week :

Major Gene r a l Don Shepper d : "And I Think You Are - I ' m Encour aged And Optimistic For TheFirst Time I n A Long , Long Time Tha t The Iraqis Are Going To Pull Off - They 're Going ToPul l Of f The Elec t i on. They Are Going To Get Their Forces Trained, And That I s Go i ng VeryWell . " (eNN's "Daybreak , " 10/11/05)

Ma j o r General Robe r t Scales : "But I Think The Gr ea t e s t Hope I s I raq, Iraq Units, TheRegul ar Army, Bu i l ding Them Up Very Quickly So That They Can Take Ove r The Fighting AndIncrease The Pr obabi l i t y Of Coming Out Of Th i s OK ." Hume: "And You Think It 'sHappen i ng? " Scales: "I t' s Happening . " (Fox News' "Special Report Wi t h Bri t Hume, "10/11/05)

Cap t a i n Chuc k Nash : "Be ca us e There Are So Many Iraqi Troops, The re Are About 140 , 000I r aq i Troop s And Those Are n 't Guys Just Wear ing Uniforms; They Are Ful l y Comba t Trained,Ready To Go Troops And That 's The Ot her Thing Tha t's changed Since January . It 's Not AU.S. Face On This . It 's An I r aqi Face And They Are Competent Troops ." (FOX News' "Fox &Fr i ends, t1 10/11/05)

Lt . Colonel Robert Maginnis Ta l ks To Soldiers I n The Midd le Ea s t who Are Optimistic AndSuppor t The Mi s s i on . "Af ter a dinner las t night with Army soldiers, Mr. Maginnis repor t st o us: ' The so ldiers expre s sed frus tra tion with t he f ac t t ha t mo s t of the U. S . newscove r age about Iraq is bad , which contradic t s t heir f i r sthand v i ew.' " (Bill Gert z AndRowan Scar bor ough, "Ins ide The Ri ng ," The Washing ton Times, 10/ 11/ 05 )

Iraq's Refe r endum :

Na sh Says The I r aqis Are Running The Cons t i t utional Referendum, Intend To Vot e , And Ar eProviding Se curi ty . nash: "As a ma t t er o f f act, the Iraqis a re out f r ont on th i s. Th i s ha sbe en t he long - there 's so much di ff erence between now and the vote, the e lect i on back i n

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J anuary. The bigges t d i f f e renc e in t h i s is number one, the Iraqi population is l e aningvery far forward t o vote . Over 88 percent of t he people in Iraq a r e registered to vote andintend t o. There are some areas where as ma n y a s 98 p e r c e n t of the people are regis t eredto vote and the s ecurity, t he p lan i tse l f f o r t h e security is an Iraqi plan . The u .S .fo l ks when t hey got i t, were r e a dy t o make wha t ever c h anges were necessary and they lookeda t it and t hey went wow, th i s is a great plan, so the Iraqis a r e providin g the forces. TheIraqi s are p roviding all of t he security planning and o ur f o r c e s are t h e r e strictly asresponse unit s to help out should the Iraqis get in troub le, bu t the Iraqis are runningt h i s t h i ng. " (FOX News' "Fox & Friends," 10/11 / 05 )

Shepperd Says Tha t Iraqis See Th e Referendum As "A Victory Either Way" Because The SunnisAr e Participating. SHEP PERD: "Now, a couple o f things about the election . Ag a i n , thepeople I 've talked to say t h e y belie v e the Sunnis are going to turn out despite theviolence .... They t hink that e ven if the r e fe ren dum is voted down that it wil l be apositive , because t he Sunnis have joined t h e process fo r the firs t time. And they get canthem a modified consti tution. So, t he y see it as p erhaps a victory eithe r way, a l t ho ug hi t certainly will be something less t han what we hoped for . " (CNN's "Day b r e ak , " 10/11/05)

Iraqi Security Fo r c e s :

Scales: " From My Visi t I Conc l uded Tha t The Greatest Change In TheSince Last Summer Has Been Ach i eved By The Iraqis Securi ty Forces . "Op- Ed, "Th e Emerging I r aqi Army , " The washington Times, 10/14 / 05 )

Mili t a ry Ba l a n c e ...(Robe rt H. Scales,

Shepperd On I r a qi Secu r ity Fo r c e s: "These GUys Are Good. " SHEPPERD: "Bu t I think t h i sis wh a t's going to happ e n : We 've got impressions tha t the I raqi forces are not good. Thet r a i n i ng is no t going well. Fr om everyon e that we ta l ked t o , nothing could be further fromthe truth . These guys a re go od. Th e y' r e coming up to speed very, very quickly." (CNN's"Da yb r eak , " 10/11/05)

Shepperd "Impressed " By Iraqi Troops. SHEPPERD: "But t he y can d o the key things. They cando intelligence . They can d o raids. And they can do presence . And they are being - areasare be i ng turned over to them. For instance, about 20 percent of the city of Baghdad hasnow b e en turned over to the I r aq i forces . I was very, very imp r e s s e d with wh a t I s aw, andI t hink th i ng s wil l get b e t t e r as they get better and as they start tak ing over some ofour duti es, a nd we g r a dually b e gin to wi t hdraw. " (CNN 's "Daybreak," 10/ 11 / 05 )

Shepperd Says Iraqi Forces Are Beginning To Ta ke Charge Of Securing Parts of I r a q .SHEPPERD: "Th e Iraqi forces a r e r eady t o pro t e ct t he polling places . They 're ready.They 're starting to ge t ready in various a r e a s. For instance, 20 pe r c ent of the territoryo f Baghdad h a s al ready been turned over to I raqi forces. You 're s t arting t o see thats pread slowly a s they come up to speed . When the y come up to speed, they are ma tched withu. s. forces, and then they are given thei r own territory. All of that ap pea r s to me to beworking. I t' s s low, tou gh work, a nd we 'll be there for a whi le helping them ." (CNN's"Live From , " 10/11/05)

After Vis iting Ninth Iraqi Mechanized Div i s i o n , Scales Concludes "And , Frankly, What I SawWas Very Encouraging." (Fox News ' "Special Re po r t With Brit Hume ," 10/11/05)

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* Scales Prai ses The Iraqi Commanders Of Iraqi s ecur i t y Forces. "We visited the Iraqi9th Mechanized Division located in Taji a few mi les no r t h of Baghdad i n one of the hot tes tand mos t contested r egions o f Iraq. The un it was activated l ast Oct obe r and has ye t tof orm compl etely . It is commanded by Gen. Basha r , a thi r t y -year ve t e ran and , like manypatriot ic , i nnova tive and se l f- r e l i an t of fi cer s , a victim o f Saddam Hussein 's brutality .The genera l cre a t ed the division by calling up many o f his old regular-army comrades .Three quarters are ve t e r ans who have been recruited f r om every p r ovince and ethnicity inIraq. The d i v i sion's mot t o i s, appropriatel y , 'Iraq fi r s t .' Gen . Bashar built his divisionfrom a junkyard . In l e s s than a year his s oldier s p i c ked t hrough acres of destroyed Sov i e ttanks a nd a rmored pe r s onnel carriers t o patch together a f l eet of ove r 200 ope r a t i ona lfight ing ve hicles. W (Robe r t H. Scales, Op - Ed, WThe Eme r ging Iraqi Army , " The washingtonTimes , 10/14 / 05)

* Scale s Recounts Divi sion 's Suc cess I n Tak ing The Fight To The Te r roris t s . " I metColonel Mohammed, division operat i ons o f f icer, an i ntensely proud a nd nationa lis t i cofficer. He made clear t o me that the d i vision' s eventua l goal was to de f end Iraq againstt he ins ur g ents wi thou t Amer ican help . But he attributed the d i v i s i on 's rapid progres s t o aremarkabl y small cadre o f Ameri can sold i ers who prov ided t ra ining , logis t i cal andcommunicat i ons suppor t . Thi s i s a unit tha t f ights a s it f orms . They have ki l l ed orcaptured over fi f ty t err o r i sts and removed ove r s i x t y r oadside bombs from t he maj orh i ghway t ha t travel s t hrough its area o f ope r a t ions . " (Robe r t H. s c a les , Op-Ed , WTheEmerging I r aqi Army, w The Washington Ti mes , 10/14/ 05 )

Shepperd:Fr om, " 10/11 / 05 )

WThese Are No Amateurs Her e . They 're ve ry Tough ." (CNN ' s wLive

Nas h Sa ys Iraqi Troops Are Supported By The Iraqi people . na sh: "They 're out there andthe Iraqi people are turning t o them - r e sponses t o surveys, 89 percent of t he Iraqipopulation has support and trust t he Iraqi troops and t hey ' r e telling t hem where the badguys are and we are rolling up that network . That' s a rea l take away. The real take awayis tha t t e r roris t t h i ng is c r umbl i ng ove r t her e . " (FOX News' "Fox & Friends ," 10/11 / 05 )

Scales No tes That Iraqis Are providing Security And Have The Capabilities To Take On TheI nsu r ge nt s . SCALES: "I'll give you one example. Remember abou t eight mont hs ago, BillCowan was in here talking about the BlAP road, you know, t he airport road? " HUME: "Ye s ,yes, yes, yes, yes, the alley of dea th ." SCALES: "Right. I drove the BIAP road, fivemi l e s along that road. And it 's clear of the enemy. I t 's fu ll of commerce . And who'sprotecting it? The Iraqi s ixth i nfantry division. And in many ways, they ' r e be t t e r t hanwe are, i n the sense tha t they 're be t te r able to gather intel ligence. I mean, they canspot insurgents by t he i r body l a nguage a nd by how they act and the language they use. Theycan spot fore igner s far better than our soldiers can. And they're better able t o engaget hese terrorists when t hey find them oftent imes than our own soldiers are. YOU know, beingpart of the cul ture rea l ly means a lot when you 're fight ing an insurgency ." (Fox News'"Specia l Report With Brit Hume, " 10 /11 / 05 )

* Sc a les: " (I r aq i Securi t y Forces ) Are Of t e n Very Suc cessful At Finding Terrori stsAnd Road side Bombs Be cause Of The i r Intimat e Familiarity With The Countryside And LocalTriba l Leaders . " (Robe r t H. Scales , Op-Ed , "The Eme rg i ng Iraqi Army ," The WashingtonTi mes , 10/14/ 05 )

Shepperd: "Bu t Remember, We Have Buil t Ove r Ti me The se I nsurgents As 10 Fe e t Tall . TheyAre Not 10 Feet Tall. They' r e Able To Do Small Attacks Wit h IBDs , But You Notice TheyHave Not Taken Ove r Po l i ce Stations Or Done Any Large Movements Actions In The LastSeveral Months . · (CNN' s "Live From, " 10/11 / 05 )

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Only Hope The American people wi ll Gi ve OUr Soldiers The Ti me TheyArmy . Gi ve Them Time , Trust Them, And Thi s War will Tur n Out OK. "

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Sheppe r d ; "I Think You'll St a r t Se e i ng The Insurrection Or The I nsurgency Ta ke Some HitsNext Year And Start To Peter Out. But It Won ' t Be Until Next Year - Carol." (CNN ' s"Daybreak, " 10 /U/05)

U.S. Troops In The Middle Ea s t :

Sc a les Says The Capabilities Of American Forces In Iraq Are Only Increasing_ SCALES :"That's a great question . The American commitment is s teady. We're not going to s ee anincrease in American forces. And thei r capability is increasing, thanks to i nfusions o ftechnology and the combat experience ... • HOME : · Ame r i c an forces? " SCALES: ·Americanforces . And the infusion of ne w units coming over, combat -experienced uni ts. Thei nsurgency is on a steady downwa rd trend , mainly because U.S. forces and Iraqi forces havebeen successful in cleaning out t he ratlines . .. • (Fox News' "Spec i a l Report With Bri tHume," 10 / 11 /05)

Shepperd; "The U.S. Forces, They're Under Attack By IEDs. But The re's Very Li t t l e Direc tAct ion Against U.S. Fo r ce s Anymore. EVery Time Insurgents At t ac k The U.S. For c e s , TheyReally Get Hammered. And So The Level Of Violence Against U.S . Forces Has Gone Down,Except For The IEDs. " (CNN's "Live Fr om, " 10/ 11 / 05 )

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Anatyst wrap-up...This r@po r t takes a look a t ove r all cov@r age numbers and wee kend commenta ry

(October 15 - 16) by mili tary ana l ys t s who recent ly v i s i t ed Iraq. As a cont rol gr oup , wehave also p r ov i ded some i nsight i nto commen t a ry (o r lack t he r @ of ) o f thos e militaryana l ysts who did not trave l to I r aq r i ght be fore the r e f e r e ndum.

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Military Analyst Med ia Coveraee Wrap-UpWeekend Commentary-Iraq Ref erendum

October 18. 2005

This report takes a look at overall coverage numbers and weekendcommentary (October 15-16) by military analysts who recently visited Iraq.As a control gro up. we have also pro vided some ins ight into commentary (orlack there of) of those mi litary analysts wbo did not travel to Iraq right beforethe referendum.

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Analyst Television Radio Print OnlineMontgomery Meigs 1 0 0 0

Robert Scales 3 0 0 0

Don Shepperd 8 2 0 0

Chuck Nash 1 0 0 0

John Garrett 0 0 0 0

Robert Maginnis 1 0 1 0. . Weekeiiil'Cove.age ~Oc" 1S.U) ,~Montgomery Meigs 1 0 0 0

Robert Scales 1 0 0 0

Don Sh epperd 6 0 0 0

Chuck Nash 0 0 0 0

John Garrett 0 0 0 0

Robert Maginnis 0 0 0 0

HIGHLIGHTS

Bob Sca les:J;o> The insurgency is on «a slow downward decl ine," because the Americans and the

Iraq is are wo rking together.). Feels optimistic that the Iraqi troops are up to speed " in terms of the intangibles">

willingness to fight for a cause, courage, cohes ion, and ' 'th e bo ttom line is yes these guys want to fight ."

Montgomery Meigs:)0> Things were better than he thought they'd be in Iraq.)0> They have secured "roughly 100 people connected to Zarqawi's networks.. .in the

last 10 months... that's amazing.")0> U.S. troops will be in Iraq through the first government term, through the next

four years, but with significantly less troops. As Iraqi forces get better andstronger, US. troops will be drawing down.

)0> A positive sign is that lots of Iraqi troops, instead ofUS. forces, are leadingbattles in certain areas, including recently in the successfu l Tal Afar situation.

Donald Shepperd:)0> Very difficult (for the Iraqi people) to elect a competent govenunent that is not

corrupt and gaining confidence of the people will take time)0> Iraqi forces just need to be better than the insurgents; not as good as US. soldiers

(in response to "readiness numbers").)0> The Iraqi security forces, both the police and the military are getting better and

more capable and this is their second election. They learned from the last one.)0> I see a rapid acceleration of the training and the capabilities of Iraqi forces over

there. The ones I visited were really good and very motivated.)0> We must not set a date on troop withdrawa l.

Other Military Analyst Coveraee

As a means of comparing the analysis provided by the six persons who recently traveledto Iraq, we also looked for commentary by six other retired military personnel whoregularly appear on television, in print, or on line. We chose Ken Allard, Jed Babbin,Bill Cowan, Gordon Cucullu, Barry McCaffrey, and Wayne Simmons. We found acombined total ofone item among the six. This was a short excerpt in a piece Jed Babbinwrote on Sunday about Washington, DC, politics (see below).

Excerpt from The American Specta tor online (posted today but written 10/15)

The unrestrained glee among the Sunday morning liberal talking heads at the Miersdriven internecine war among conservatives was equaled only by their celebration of thepossible (and possibly imminent) indictments of White House staffers in the Plame leakinvestigation. Those political currents swept away the topic of the Iraqi constitutionalreferendum, which seems to have been an unqualified success. At this writing - Sundayafternoon -- we don't know the result. Regardless ofwhether the constitution wasratified, about 60 percent of Iraq's eligible voters u roughly 9 million people -- braved theinsurgents' threats and voted. Even in the Sunni provinces, the turnout was reportedly thathigh or higher. No matter how the vote turns out, this is an overwhelming victory overthe terrorists, whose murder campaign failed to keep the Sunnis out of the politicalprocess. This vote doesn't preclude failure of democracy in Iraq, but it makes it much lesslikely. The Sunnis -- and the other Iraqi ethnic groups -- will long remember this vote as a

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milestone on theirpath to freedom and self-government. Theirmemoryis bound to lastlonger than that of Judith Miller.

Note: General TommyFranks appeared on Fox News on Sundaymorning, in part to talkaboutthenewly issued paperback edition of his book. In response to questions about theelections, he provided supportive answers, such as; it shows"the strategy is working."Additionally. Rick Francona was later discovered to have multiple television clips onMSNBC. Generally, his commentary was about the referendum process and theinsurgency. Unlike the traveling military analysts. he had much less focus on troop levelsand Iraqi troop readiness.

Weekend Televis ion Coverage(Link to Actual Coverage on Fox, CNN and MSNBC)

Robert Sea les:Fox News - On tbe Record With Greta Van Susteren10/15105 03:57:05

Donald Sbepperd:CNN - Live Saturday1011 51051 6:20:53CNN - Live Saturday10/ 15105 12:08:3 1CNN - Saturday Morning10/15105 07:48:53CNN - Dolans Unscripted10/1510510:18:43CNN -- Live Saturday1011 5105 18:37:57CNN - DolaDs Unscripted10/1510510:07:59

Montgomery Meigs:MSNBC - Ha rd ball10/1 510503:57:04

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lIIl CAPT, JCS OVCJCS/P 0 rank, CAPT, OCJCHaddock, Ellen (Katie Col OCJCSlPA; CDR. OCJCS/PA;L- ---'LTC. OCJCSIPA; TSgt, JCS. OCJCSlPAFW : Fact Sheet - 1268 Report to Congress on Measuring the Security & Stability in Iraq

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Sirs ... her e ' s the fact sheet f or t he 1268 Reports e curi ty & St a bi lity i n Iraq from the DRSO off i c e .

t o Congress on Measuring t he

If you r ead this fact s heet , as we l l as the draft TPs that were generated earl i er in theprocess , it qu i c kl y becomes apparent that t he i n formation is j ust too o l d to continuet a l ki ng about i t. I t was old data the day it was publ i shed . .. a nd t ha t will continue to bet he p roblem for future reports if the 'process' does n ' t a l l ow f o r i t to be published morequi ckly.

I propose we make t he deliberate dec ision t o d iscont inue executing the rema1n1ng proposedpieces o f a PA plan (wh i c h are civic g r oups , J -SCOPE , and a l l-hands calls) . This wil lprobabl y be discus sed a t t he next Steering Group Meet ing next week.

Whi le execution on thi s report was poor , I believe we have enough lead time and less onslearned from the las t tw o that I can prepare a more aggre s sive plan for the next reportthat will be issued i n J anua ry . This wil l be published every 90 days.

I a lso be lieve i n the midst of al l the ac tivities go ing on r ight now (referendum,elect ions, Saddam t r ial, NMSP -WOT, NSSI, etc.) that t h i s i n fo rmation wil l ge t lost i n thefray, especial ly sinc e we're already wel l ou t of the cycle for whe n it was r e lea s ed a ndt he data, even when published on 12 Oct, was a lready o ld compa red t o what's be ing wr i t t enabout and discussed t oday .

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- - J -S COPE a rticle (written by J -S or use t he AFI S article that's usua l ly wr i t ten f r om thepr e s s conf e r ence )- - Al l - hand s cal ls (CONCERN: unless the CJCS does i t AND it 's manda tory, who wi l l rea llybe i nt ere s t ed? We can ' t force -feed t he Joint Staff , but I would ha te to have Lt GenRenuart (or o t he r designated rep ) stand up in f ront of an empty conf room/auditorium. )-- Talking Points /fact she et (pr oduce d by DRSO) f or a senior l eader 'module' o fi nformation f or speeches/public e ngagement s / c i v i c g r oups , e t c .

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Fact SheetOSD - Defense Reconstruction Support OfficeWashington, DCOctober 13, 2005

Measuring Stability and Security in Iraq -1268 Report to Congress

This is the second in a series of reports to Congress meas uring stability and security in Iraq . Thefirst report was delivered on July 22, 2005. The repo rt provides baseline measurements andindica tors of Iraq' s political climate, security environment activity and security force trainingand performance.

Following is a listin g of init iat ives and activities that have occurred since the last report in July:

Political Stabil ity

• The nationa l referendum will be held on October 15th; reports indicated one million new votersregistered

• Iraqis overwhelming intend to vote on October 15th, representing another major democratic andpolitical milestone

• A private media is thriving and growi ng in Iraq; 44 commercial television stations, 72 commercialradio stations and more than 100 private newspapers are operating in Iraq

• Other countries have comm itted an additional $235 mill ion to rebuild Iraq

• NATO has partnered with Iraq and is training and developing a new staff college for Iraq's military

Econom ic Stability

• Iraq has normalized relat ions with the International Monetary Fund received $436 million inemergency loans

• World Bank projects 3.7% growth for 2005

• Despite terrorist attacks, Iraq continues to produce 2.16 million barrels per day (bblJd) and export1.4 million bbl/d; key oil infrastructure repairs are underway

• The-U.S. Govemment is training new infrastructure security battalions and creating a "train-thetrainer" program

• Thirty years of neglect and corruption in the electricity sector have severely limited Iraq's ability toimprove electricity output

• Communications sector expansion fueled by broad-based and strong cell phone sales and use

Security Environment

• The Iraqi Army is in the lead for planning and executing counterinsurgency operations in one Iraqiprovince that is rough ly the size of New Jersey. The ISF also have the lead for 87 square milesin Baghdad and over 450 square miles of battle space in the other Iraqi provinces

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• Intimidation and brutal violence remains the terrorists and insurgency's weapons of cho ice, andwill remain so for the foreseeable future

• Coa lition commanders and local leaders continue to disrupt insurgent cells

• Signmcant numbers of Sunnis remain concerned about secur ity, but intend to vote in theupcoming referendum

• Insurgents want sectarian violence and are promoting violence against innocent Iraq civilians

• Four provinces account for 85% of all attacks

• Fifty percent of the population is exposed to only 6% of the attacks

security Forces Training and Performance

• We have 36 battalions taking the lead - capable of planning and executing missions with little orno support from Coalition forces. And this includes one battalion completely capable of operatingindependently of Coalition backs topping. This is a 50% increase in the number of ISF capable oftaking the lead in combat operations .

• 116 ground comba t battalions conducting operati ons - 22 additional battalions since July

• Over 192,000 Iraqi Secu rity Forces trained and equipped - a 12% increase since July

• The total force structure projection has increased by 28 ,000, and is expected to be completed byAugust 2007

• Since January 2004 the Ministry of Defense has fielded 88 Iraqi Army battalions including 2special operations battalions

• Iraq units being fully integrated into all major Coalition operations

• Since JUly the Ministry of Defense forces received approximately 10,000 AK-47s, 1,800 pistols,2,700 machine guns and 750 vehicles

• Eleven Iraqi comb at battalions were independently employed in Tal Afar; this is twice the numberduring Fallujah operat ions

• The new logistics system is now being built

• Spec ial Operat ions units are undertaking reconnaissance and direct action missions

• Since July, Strategic Infrastructure Battalions have been integrated into Ministry of Defense plansanf:J will complete Multi· National Secu rity Training Corp - Iraq {MNSTC· I} training in October

• NATO has trained 24 Iraqi senior officers - colonels and lieutenant colonels; two additionalcourse curricu la have been planned

• Since July, Ministry of Interior forces rece ived approximately 21,000 AK-47 s, 15,000 pistols,1,700 machine guns and 1,900 vehicles

• 5,500 add itional Iraqi Police Service personnel have been trained and equipped since July

• 2,000 additional Special Police Commandos have been trained and equipped since July; thisprogram is well ahead of schedu le

• The Mechanized Police reached its target force level during this reporting period

• 1,200 additional Public Order Police have been trained and equipped since July; full force levelsare expected by the October referendum

• Since July, the Emergency Response Unit has conducted nightly operations in Mosul andBaghdad; its forces have increased by 50% since July

Announcements or act iv it ies by President Bush and Department of De'ense Officials related toth is report

President Bush:

• Rose Garden press conference• Oval Office briefing from LTG David Petraeus

Secretary Rum. '.ld :

• Congress ional appearance with Gen. Casey, Gen. Myers, and Gen. Abizaid• Press conference with Gen. Casey• Press briefing by l TG David Petraeus• Briefing to AEI by l TG David Petraeus

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie) , Col, OCJCS/PATuesday, December 20, 2005 6:03 PM'Tob ias. Ed' Ibliiil"'"- - - ''":,~~~;ILTC. OCJCS/PA; IV JCS SJS~ : rave Wit CJCS

Thanks f o r t he emai l - - I ' l l answer what I c an, and look i nto t he res t .The f ocus o f the t r i p is t r oop v isits , so I believ e you will hav e p lenty o f acc ess to t hetroops for i nterviews. We wi ll he l p f acili tate wha tever you need .I' l l need to get some cla r i fic a t ion from t he entertai ners t o s e e what t he i r gu i de l i ne s arewi t h regard t o granting interviews a nd or r ecor ding the ir performances .The ente r t a i ners who are confi rmed for the t r ip are;--Reggie McFadden .- Comedian- -Diana DeGarmo . - pop voca l i s t (runne r up i n American Idol ) - - Mic hael Peterson --country -we s tern singe r -- (Retired Col one l ) Jack Jacobs Vietnam-era Medal of Honorr ecipient (and more recen t l y , mili tary ana l ys t f or MSNBC)

We might have a NASCAR drive r , but won't know f or ce rtain unt i l t omor r ow.Hope that is usefu l ; I' ll t ry t o get more det a ils t o you soon .Best Wis he s,Katie

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Col . Haddock -

Thank s f o r the s eat o f f e r . I have a couple of ques t i ons whi ch I' m e - mai l i ng, i nc ase I don ' t reach you on t he phone t his even ing.

How much access wi l l we have t o i nt erviews wi th troops?i nt e rvi e ws with entertainers? Who are the entertainers? wi llperf ormances , audio and /or video?

What access wi l l we have t owe be ab le to record actua l

Thanks f o r t he help. I 'll be back i n t ouch t omorrow with a trave l de c i s i on .

Ed

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Tried t o reach you via phone , but unsuc cessful .Pleas e give me a cal l a t you r convenience t o discuss poss i b l e trave l wi t h the

Chai rman during next week' s troop v i sit.Thanks i n advance,Ka t i e

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Tobias, EdWednesday, December 21, 2005 10:22 AMHa d kiln (Katie). Col. OC _S~....__'I-)(I) LTC. OCJCS/PA; )(I) IV JCS SJS; Meyer, LisaRE: Travel with CJCS

We'd like to take you up on your o ffe r and have Li s a Meyer accompany the CJCS on t h i strip . We won 't b e a b le to spring a videographer, though, so o n l y one seat i s necessary.

Yo u s houl d feel fre e to wo r k logis t i cs d irectly wi th Lisa , bu t would apprec iate being ke p tin the i nfo l o op .

Thanks,

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se .

Thanks for the emai l - - I 'l l answer what I can, and l ook i n t o the rest.

Th e focus of the t r i p i s troop v isits, so I believe you wil l have plenty o f access to thetroops fo r i n terviews . We wi l l h e l p f a c i l i t a t e whatever you n e e d . .

I 'll need to g e t some clarification f rom t he entertainers to see what their guidelines arewi th regard to g ranting interviews and or r e c o r d i ng their performances .

The e ntertainers who a re conf irmed f o r the trip are :1

--Reggie McFadden -- Comedian

--Di ana DeGarmo -- pop voc a l i s t (runner up in Amer i can I dol)

--Mi c ha e l Pe terson -- country-western singer

-- (Reti r ed Co l one l ) Jack Jacobs -- Vietnam-era Medal o f Honor recipient (and morer e ce nt l y , mi l ita ry analys t f or MSNBC )

We might have a NASCAR dri ver , but won 't know for c e rta in until tomorrow.

Hope that i s usefu l ; I 'll t ry to get mor e detai ls to you soon.

Best Wishe s ,

Kat ie

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Sent : Tue sday, December 20 , 2005 4 :58 PMTo : Haddoc k, El l e n (Kat i e) , Col , OCJ CS/ PASubjec t : RE: Trave l with CJCS

Col. Haddock

Thanks f or t he seat offer. I have a couple of ques t ions which ~'m e -mail ing, i ncase I don't reach you on the phone t hi s evening.

How much a cce s s wi ll we have to i nterviews with troops ?i n t e rviews wi th e nt e r t a i ne r s ? Who are t he entertainers ? wi l lperformances, audio and/or video?

What access will we have towe be able t o reco r d ac t ua l

Thanks fo r t he help . I 'll be ba ck in touch tomorrow with a t rav e l deci sion .

Ed

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Mr. Tob ias,

Tried to reach you v i a phone, but unsuccessful.Please give me a call at your convenience to discuss possible travel with the

Chairman dur ing next week's t roop v i s i t .Thanks i n advance,Katie

Colonel Ka t i e Haddock , USMCS ecial Assistant for Public Affairs to the Cha irman

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCSJPAWednesday, December 21, 200510:31 AM

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Great news !Look ing f orward to work i ng wi t h Lisa , and with you .All the b e s t f o r t he hol idays,Ka t i e

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Ka t ie -

We'dt h i s trip .necessary .

like to t ak e y o u up on you r o f f e r a nd have Li sa Meye r a c c ompa ny t h e CJCS onWe won't b e able to spri ng a vid e ogr a p h e r, tho ugh , s o o nly o n e s eat is

You should f eel free to work logistics directly wi th Li s a , but wou l d apprec i a tebeing kept in t he i nfo loop.

Thank s ,

Ed

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Thanks f or the ema i l -- I ' ll ans wer what I c an , and look i nto t he res t .

The f ocus of the t r i p ist o the t r oops f or i nt e rviews.

troop visits, so I be l ieve you wil l have ple nt y o f ac ce s sWe wi l l he lp facil itat e whatever you need.

I 'l l need t o ge t some c larificat i on f r om t he ent ertai ne r s t o s e e what t he i rguide l ines a r e with r egard to granting i nt ervi ews and o r r ecording t he i r pe r f ormances.

The ente r t ainers who are conf irmed for t he t r i p are:

-- Reggie McF adde n -- Comed ian

--Diana DeGarmo -- pop voca l i s t (runner up in American Idol )

--Mic hael Pe t e r son - - count ry - western s i nger

- - (Reti r ed Colonel ) J ack Jacobs -- Vi e tnam-era Meda l o f Honor rec ipi ent (and morer ecently . mi li tary analyst f or MSNBC)

We might hav e a NASCAR drive r , but won' t know for cer t ain until t omor r ow.

Hope that i s us e f ul ; I ' l l t ry to get mor e deta i l s to you s oon .

Best Wi s he s ,

Kat i e

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Sent: Tue sday . Decembe r 20, 2005 4: 58 PMTo : Haddock , Elle n (Ka t i e ) , Col, OCJCS/ PASubjec t: RE: Tr avel wi t h CJCS

Col. Haddock

Thanks f or t he seat offer .i n case I don ' t r each you on t he phone

I hav e a coup l e o f ques t i ons which I ' m e-mai l i ng,this ev en i ng .

How much a ccess wi ll we have to i nt e rviews with t roops ? Wha t a cces s wi ll wehave t o int ervi ews with ent e r taine r s ? Who a re t he entertainers? Will we be able t or ecord ac t ua l performances, audio and/ or video?

Thanks f or the help . I 'l l be back in t ouch tomorrow wi th a trave l dec i sion .

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Mr. Tobias .

Tried t o r each you via phone, but unsuc ces sful .Please gi ve me a call at your conven i ence to discuss possible travel with the

Chairman during next week's troop vis it.Tha nks in advance,Kat i e

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LTC, OCJCS/PAWednesday, Decem ber 21, 2005 10:43 AM'Tobias Ed'

We will ne ed t he below inf o rma t i on on Lisa to ensur e we can add her to t he t r i p .

Passport # / d a t e issued/locat ionSocial s ecurity #DOB/location

Thanks .

-----Original Message-----From: Ha dd o c k , Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCS!PASent: We dnes d a y , December 21, 20 05 10: 3 1 AMTo : ' Tobias Ed 'Cc : LTC, OCJCS ! PA; L ..IC1V JCS SJSSubj e c t : RE: Travel with CJ CS

Grea t n e ws !Looking f o r wa rd t o worki ng wi th Lisa . and wi th you.Al l the be s t f or the holidays ,Ka tie

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Katie -

We'd like to take you up on you r o f fe r and have Li sa Meye r ac company t he CJCSon t his trip. We won ' t be a bl e to spr i ng a videographe r, t hough , so only one s eat isne ce s s a ry .

You should f eel f r ee t o work logist ics directly wi t h Li sa , but wouldappreciate being kept in the info loop.

Thanks ,

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Ed ,

Thanks f or the email -- I' ll answer what I can , and l ook i nto t he rest.

The focus of t he trip isac ce s s to the t r oop s f or i nterviews .

t roop vi si t s , so I be l i ev e you wi ll have p l enty ofWe wil l help faci l ita te whatever you ne ed.

I ' ll need to get some c l a rif i c at i on from t he ente r t a i ne r s to see what theirguide lines are with r egard to g ranting i n t e rv i ews and or r ecord i ng their performances.

The entertainers who a re conf i r med for the tr i p a r e :

- -Reggie McFadden - - Comedi an

--Di ana DeGa rmo -- pop vocal i s t (runner up i n American I dol )

- - Michae l Pe t erson -- country - we s t e r n singer

- - (Re t ired Co lonel ) Jack Jacobs - - Vi e tnam-e r a Medal of Honor r e cip ient (andmore r e ce nt ly, military analyst f or MSNBC )

We might have a NASCAR driver , bu t won' t kn ow for ce r t ain until tomorrow.

Hope tha t is useful ; I' l l try to ge t more detail s t o you s oon.

Be s t Wishes ,

Kat ie

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Se nt : Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4 :5 8 PMTo: Hadd ock, El l en (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PASubject: RE: Tr avel with CJCS

Col. Haddock

Tha nks for t he s e a t offe r . I have a couple of qu estions which I 'm emailing, i n case I don ' t reach you on the phone th i s evening.

How much access will we have to interviews wi t h troops?will we have to interviews wi th ent ertainers? Who are the entertainers?to record actual performances, audi o and/ o r video?

Wha t accessWill we be able

Thanks for t he he l p . I ' l l be back in touch t omor r ow with a trave ldecision.

Ed

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Mr. Tobia s ,

Tr ied to reach you via phone , bu t unsuccessful.Pl e a se g i ve me a cal l a t your convenience to d i s cus s possib l e travel

wi th t he Chairman dur ing next week's troop visi t.Thanks in advance,Katie

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SUMMARY POINTS» "Secret" Pentagon study call deaths preventable-"Either a larger plate or

superior protection around the plate would have had the potential to alter the finaloutcome," the study concluded.

)- Vulnerabili ty of the military' s body armor has been known since the start of thewar-data collected since 2003

);> Pentagon continues to have armor problems ranging from shortfal ls in bulletproofvests to heavily armored Humvees and trucks

);> Pentagon working to adapt and improve solider protection but need to considersafety from extra armor against the loss ofcombat effectiveness from too muchannor

» Soldiers question the use of more annor---compJain that it is already difficult forthem to move

,... Politicians criticize the Pentagon-Senator Clinton requests an inquiry into theissue.

Print/Online Summary

Media coverage of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner's body armor study has followedthe lead of New York Times reporter, Michael Moss, who first broke the news onJanuary 7. The coverage centered on the studies finding that additional armor wouldhave prevented close to 80% of the deaths caused by wounds to the upper body.

The media provided a relatively descriptive explanation of the study's findings, butshifted to a more critical perspective in its presentation of the Pentagon's efforts toprovide armor to its troops. After the initial reporting, coverage expanded to includeskepticism voiced by soldiers regarding the benefit of added armor to combateffectiveness and criticism of the Pentagon from politicians.

W idely quoted Pentagon comments ::> "As the information became more prevalent and aware to everybody that in fact

these were casualty sites that they needed to be worried about, then peop le weremuch more willing to accept that weigh t on their body"-Maj. WendellLeimbac h, Marine Corps Systems Command

}> " In response to the changing battlefi eld conditions and as new technologiesemerge, the Army continues to develop improvements to soldier protec tion

equipment to enhance surv ivability and mobility. We take operational securityvery seriously and will not discuss in public sensitive issues that may render anyinsight to the enemy about our capab ilities, fielding plans, or tactics, techniquesand procedures"- Anny spokesman Paul Boyce

Television Summary

Television broadcasts also referenced the New York Times as the media outlet to «breakthe body armor" story, however, it is Good Morning America's dai ly segments keepingthe issue alive. It has included interviews with Senator Clinton, the manufactures of bodyarmor and official U.S. Army statements about the distributio n of armor overseas.Addi tionall y, many military analysts such as Wesley Clark, Bill Cowan and BohMcG innis have also provided their perspectives. Coverage was on all major nationalnetworks and local markets (ABC, NBC and CBS).

Mjlitary Ana lyst Quotes::> The reali ty is we're fighting a real war. Unfortun ately, if you burden soldiers

down with every piece of protective Annor that we would like to, they wouldn'the ahle to move. (McGinnis)

:> We 've been worried about this for a long time this, is historic under inves tment inthe protection of individual soldiers and marines. It's been going on 25 years,since Vietnam . (Clark)

:> On this part icular issue, I believe the military conti nues to do the abso lute bestthat they can for the troops out there... (Cowan)

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Clinton: Vests not protecting troops in Iraq Jan uary 10(Newsday) hy Glenn ThrushSen. Hillary Rodham Clinton claims that hundreds ofV.S. soldiers may have died"needlessly" in Iraq because of inadequate body armor and wants the Senate ArmedServices Committee to hold hearings into the safety of the standard armored vests issuedto troops.

Sen. Clinton seeks inquiry into body armor study January 9(Newsday/AP)Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton urged Congress Monday to re-examine the Pentagon'sstandards for soldiers' body armor in Iraq, after a new study found most fatal torsowounds to Marines would have been prevented or minimized with more protection ."With U.S. troops risking their lives daily in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, we owe itto them to make sure they have the best equipment possible," Clinton wrote to committeechairman John Warner.

Body~Armor Gaps Are Shown to Endanger Troops January 7(Washington Post) Arm Scott TysonThe Marine Corps and Army are wo rking to upgrade body armor to prevent fatali tiescaused by torso wounds from gunshots and explosions, after classified Pentagon forensicstudies high lighted how gaps in current armor are leaving troops vulnerable.U.S. troops in lraq often complain that insurgents -- espec ially snipers -- havedemonstrated they know how to exploit the gaps in the current armor. For example,enemy snipers have killed U.S. forces with single shots to the neck or upper torso .

PeDta!!On Stu dy Links Fatatities To Body Ar mor - January 7 (widely reprinted)(New York Times) by Michael MossA secret Pentagon study has found that as many as 80 percen t of the marines who havebeen killed in Iraq from wounds to the upper body could have survived if they had hadextra body armor. Such armor has been available since 2003 , but until recently thePentagon has largely declined to supply it to troop s despite calls from the field foraddi tional protection, according to military officials.Military offi cials and contractors said the Pentagon's procurement troubl es had stemmedin part from miscalculations that underestimated the strength of the insurgency, and fromyears of cost-cutting that left. some armoring compani es on the brink of collapse as theywaited for new orders.

Armor Faulted in Some U.S. Deaths - January 7(Los Angeles Times!AP)An unreleased Pentagon study of fatal torso wou nds to Marines in lraq found that mostmight have been prevented or minimized if the troops had bee n weari ng improved bodyarmor.The findings underscore the difficulty facing the Army and Marine Corps in providingthe optimum level of body armor protection . The Army and the Marine Corps haveweighed the benefits of additional safety from extra armor against the loss of combateffectiveness from too much armor.

U.S. Sold iers Question Use oeMore Armor - January 7(Houston ChroniclelAP) by Ryan LenzBElli, Iraq - U.S. soldiers in the field were not all supportive of a Pentagon study thatfound improved body armor saves lives, with some troops arguing Saturday that morearmor would hinder combat effec tiveness.But man y soldiers say they feel encumbered by the weight and restri cted by fabric thatdoes not move as they do. They frequently joke as they strap on their equipment before apatrol and express relie f when they return and peel it off.Both the Army and the Marines have weighed the expected payoff in additional safetyfrom extra armor aga inst the measurable loss of combat effectiveness from too mucharmor. . .Others questioned the effectiveness of additional body armo r.

Mass. pols blast Bush for ski mpy GI armor - January 8(Boston Globe) by Laura CrimaldiBay State congressional leaders yes terday blasted the Bush administration over a newPentagon study that revealed as many as 80 percent of Mari nes killed in Iraq from torsowo unds could have survi ved if they had better body armor."That fatalities that have occurred could have been prevented is unforgivable. The firstbasic respo nsibJity that we have to those people that put on that un iform is to give themthe tools that they need to do the job and come home safely," said Ll.S. Rep. Stephen F.Lynch (D·9th), who is leaving for a fourth trip to Iraq in a few weeks."It is outrageous that this mistake was identified at the outset of the war, but armoredvests were not o rdered until this September. Our troops deserve more than speeches about' staying the course .' They deserve a plan for victory in Iraq and the latest militarytec hno logy. President Bush has denied them both," U.S. Rep. Edward Markey (D- 7th)said in a statement.

Pentagon stu dY fa ults US body armor in Iraq deaths - January 7(Reuters) by Will DunhamBetter body armor could have prevented or limited about 80 percent of fatal torso wo undssuffered by Mari nes killed in Iraq, a report by U.S. military medical experts obtained onFriday said.Christopher Kelly, spokesman for the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, said theoffice that conducted the study performs full autopsies on all troops killed in'Iraq andAfghanistan and that the evaluation of body armor "is one of many issues we addresswith these investigations.""Information regarding the effect iveness of bod y arm or has been shared with those whodes ign and fie ld personal protective gear," Kelly sa id.

Sena tor Barb visits Indiana troops - January 7(WTHR, IN) Roger Harvey/Eyewitness NewsA Pentagon study shows the US needs to do more work to protect troops fighting in Iraq .Senator Ba yh and other lawm akers say the report is disturbing and bette r body armor is amust for Americans fighti ng for freedom .For the families of these so ldiers who lost thei r lives, they wou ld like to see some quickaction . Senator Evan Bayh responded, "Frankly, heads ought to roll if there are peop lewho are responsible for not getting our troops the body arm or they need to protectthemselves. That is just not acceptable."

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WSB - Good Morning America1/1112006 7:14:19 AMContinuing on issues of security. Good Morning America is still on the case ofbodyarmor and protection of American troops. AB C news has now received new informationfrom the army (they had been reluctant to give a statement). They now say:

"Every solder in harm s way has a complete set of body armor, the best bodyarmor in the world---nearly 700,000 full sets of interceptor body armor have beenprovided to soldiers." - U.S. Army

They add now updated side armor will enter production shortly. Our question is whatdoes "shortly" mean? This afternoon there will be a hearin g of the senate anned servicescommi ttee looking into the whole issue. We will have more on all of this for youtomorrow .

WSB (ABa Good Morn ing America*Interview with Hilary Clinton. Some commentary by Howard Dean (partial transcript)111012006 7:1 2:32 AMDiane Sawyer: Still on Body Armor watch this momi ng. We told you yest erday aboutthe secret Pentagon study that found the lives of more than 80010 of troops in Iraq withfatal wounds may have been saved if they had additional pieces ofbody armor. After ourreport later, "good morni ng America" received so many phone calls from so manymilitary parents anxious to buy body armor for their children being sent to Iraq and thismorni ng New York Senator Hilary Clinton joins us. She called for an inves tigation andshe's at her home in Chappaqua, New York. Thank you for being with us. I want to getright to it. You have called on the Pentagon to make the additiona l armor available. Haveyou gotten any reaction from the Pentagon?Senator Clinton : Well, Dian e, this is the last of many requests that not only I but anumber of my colleagues in the congress, parents soldiers and marines and others havemade on their own behalf over the last now nearly three years. and it just is heartbreakingto me that once again we have a study that looked at the wo unds that marines sufferedand concluded as you rightly said that we perhaps could have avoided so many ofthesefatalities with the right body armor. The problem is that we have not provided that bodyarmor in a timely way. We have not given man y of our soldiers and marines theprotection that they need. It' s just unforgivable and unacceptable. We' re looking foranswers and I hope finally we will get them .Sawyer: The army has issued a statement; the Department of Defense has issued astateme nt. They both said the same things. They continue to develop improvements tosoldier protection equipment but they also add they won't discuss these issues in publicbecause it might render insight to the enemy and aid the enemy in some way. Does thisaid the enemy in some does this aid the enemy in some way to discuss this publicl y?Clinton: Ofcourse not. In fact, this has been discussed publicly for nearly three years .

WLS (ABCl - Good Mo rni ng America119/2006 7:14:02 AMDiane Sawyer : Now someone who knows all about this, Jason Beck, president and CEOof Diamondback Tactical Defense, which makes body armor. He ' s also a former Marineand an instructor in hand -to-hand fighting. The vulnerabilities are here and on theshoulder?Jason Beck: The shoulder region as well as the sides . There are no balli stic plates ineither of those regio ns. We have ballistic plates in the front and back.

Sawyer : But it is available to provide for the side?Beck: Correct. And the Marine Corps has purchased 27,000 sets. They haveapprox imately 2,500 sets in the field curren tly.Sawyer : But the anny?Beck: The study just came out about a month and a half ago or right around that time,the anny has been moving as fast as they can . They're a big machine.Sawyer: Well, you say that. But these are lives at stake. As fast as they can?Beck: They should be able to provide these within the next six months to a year to wherethey actually have every single troop covered.Sawyer: Should be able to. We' re going to keep the pressure on, ifwe can.

Headline News1/812006 5:16:37 PM:A Pentagon study suggests that not all U.S. troops are happy about improved body armor.Many soldiers say the armor is restricti ve, weighs too much and increases the chances ofgetting killed.

MSNBC - Sca r borough Countrv"Interview with mili tary analyst Lieutenant Colonel Robert McGinnis1/9/2006 10:00:25 PMJ oe Sca rbo rough: Did a Pentagon cover-up kill hundreds of marines in Iraq? Ashocking secret report from the Pentagon says as many as 80% of the marines killed inIraq from wounds to the upper body could have been saved if they had been wearingextra Body Armor. Why was the secre t Pentagon study focused on saving lives buried fortwo years? (Gap in Transcript)J oe Sca r borough: Let me bring in Lieutenant Colonel McGinni s, saying that 80% of themarines may have been saved from upper torso wounds ifhe had had the right type ofplates. What do you make this Pentagon report? Why don't you think that those types ofplates should be used?McGinnis: Well, the types ofplates that are used are ceramic plates, ballistic plates.They have different characteristics that we can't describe here. But I looked at the studyon the website. 93 cases, of course, you gave the statistics and the breakdown andinterestingly recommended that they use larger plates, ceramic pads for the shoulders andsides. And you put a lot more weight on the soldiers . And you ask the soldier on theground, I was there in 2003, I was there twice, I was not issued protective gear in the fall.This past fall, I had the Kevlar as well as the body armor and every soldier now overthere obviously has it. We've learned a lot, clearly in three years . But the study is not; it'snot been done in a laboratory. The reality is we're fighting a real war. Unfortunately, ifyou burden soldiers down with every piece ofprotective Annor that we would like to,they wouldn't be able to move. And the irregular warfare that we're fight ing. they wouldendanger themselves based on what the soldiers are telling us.

CNN Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer"Intervi ew with Howard Dean1/812006 12:47:23 PM

Howard Dean: I was disgusted when I read in the New York Times yesterday that 80% ofthe injuries in the Marine Corps could have been prevented if the Pentagon, Secretary ofDefense and the President supplied them with the armor they had. They requested thatfrom the field, the Pentagon refused. Secretary Rumsfeld ought to resign.

Fox News - Fox News Live" Interview with General Clark118/2006 11:26:24 AM:Newscaster: I'm going to ask you about a New York Times article saying that 80% of theU.S. forces who have suffered who died, actua lly from chest wounds didn't have to, hadonly they had the right body armor. Do you agree?Gen eral Cla r k: Yeah, I do. We've been worried about this for a long time this, ishistoric under investment in the protection of individual soldiers and marines. It's beengoing on 25 years, since Vietnam. We knew when we came out of Vietnam the key thickwas the body count. How many people we have lost. Yet, we invested in armoredvehicles, high tech weaponry, missiles, and radars . But we didn't put enough money intothe protection of the lives of the individual soldiers and marines on the battlefield.

Fox News - Fox and Friends Sunday*htterview with Bill Cowan118/20068:25:38 AMOn this particular issue (body armor), I believe the military continues to do the absolutebest that they can for the troops out there and here are the big issues, one, procurement isvery difficult. Even if we had the abso lute solution today getting it bought through theprocurement manufacturing and distribution proc ess cou ld take a long time. Secondly fortroops on the ground, I know from experience wearing body armor in Vietnam it'srestrictive and the study says if we had more parts of the body covered we would havelost less people, but the issue for the trop on the ground is he's got to have mo bility, thesekids are carrying heavy equipment and gear and packs already and they've got to be ableto move so sometimes you're willing to give up some of that body armor because youneed that mobi lity and that flexibility on the gro undI think if you talk to the mari nes or soldiers operatin g against the enemy out thereconducting, engaging, fighting, maneuvering, yeah, they'd like to be more prepared, alittle bit more protected but I certainl y want to maintain my mobility, my flexibility, myability to jump, move, run , shoot , communicate, all the things that somebody down thereon the ground has to do, that' s what their mission is and you don't hear a lot of complaintsfrom the troops right now.We hate to lose any of our men or women over there, but you can't protect them 100percent of the time with 100 percent perfect solutions.

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HEADLINE: The Ailto Hearings;Blueprint for Rebirth;Protecting the Troops

BYLINE: ANCHOR: JIM LEHRER; GUESTS: TED OLSON; DAWN JOHNSEN; LT.COL. ROGER CHARLES (Ret.); LT. COL. ROB ERT MAGINNIS (Ret.);CORRESPONDENTS: KWAME HOLMAN; RAY SUAREZ; SPENCER MlCHELS;MARGARET WARNER; GWEN IFILL; TERENCE SMlTH; KWAME HOLMAN

BODY:JIM LEHRER: Good evening, I'm Jim Lehrer. On the NewsHour tonight, the news of thisWednesday, then : Highlights from day three of the confirmation hearings for SupremeCourt nominee Samuel Alita, plus analysis by Ted Olson, form er solicitor general forPres ident Bush, and Dawn Johnsen, deputy assistant attorney general in the Clintonadministration; a report from New Orleans on a blueprint for rebuilding the city; and adebate between two retired military officers on the effectiveness of body armor for U.S.troops in Iraq.

FOCUS - PROTECTING THE TROOPS

JIM LEHRER: Finally tonight, the debate over body armor for U.S. troops in Iraq.Margaret Warner has our story.

MARGARET WARNER: As U.S. casualties have mounted in Iraq so too has criticism ofthe body armor supplied to soldiers and Marines. It's called interceptor body armor andits des ign has been modified five times since the war began.

But insurgents appear to have figured out how to exploit gaps and weak points in thetroops' protective vests.

Some members of Congress have jumped on the issue, including DemocraticCongressman John Murtha when he called for a rapid timetable for withdraw.

But the Pentagon has defended the leve l of protection for American troops. The latestturn in the controversy came from a veterans group called Soldiers for the Truthpublished pre liminary findings of a secret Pentagon study of93 Marine deaths from torsowounds over two years .

According to the New York Times, the stud y found as many as 80 percent of thoseMarines could have survi ved if they had had extra body armor. For example, the studysaid as many as 42 percent of the Marine casual ties who died from isolated torso injuri es

could have been prevented with improved protection in the area surrounding the platedareas of the vest.

The Pentagon responded last week by stating it will continue seeking improvements tobody armor, but, quote, will not discuss in public sensitive issues that may render anyinsight to the enemy.

Today Senate Armed Services Comm ittee chairman John Warner called Pentagonofficials, including a soldier and a Marine wearing body armor, to a closed-door hearingon the issue.

MAJ. GEN. WILLIAM CAITO, U.S. Marine Corps: We're fielding the best body armorand protective equ ipment avai lable we think in the world today. And as we have theopportunities to upgrade the equipment, we do that.

MARGARET WARNER: Last September the Marine Corps ordered 28,000 sets of sideplates to offer additional protection for its troops in Iraq.

MARGARET WARNER: Do U.S. troops in Iraq have adeq uate body armor? For that, wetum to two former military officers who are weari ng alternative varieties of protectedvests: Retired Army Lt. Col. Robert Maginn is served in Vietnam. He's currently aconsu ltant to the Pentagon and receives regular briefings there. He's wearing the bodyarmor common ly worn by American troops in Iraq. Retired Marine Corps Lt. Col. RogerChar les is president of Soldiers for the Truth, the advocacy group that obtained andpublished the Pentagon study of Marine deaths from torso wo unds. He's wearing onemore expensive alternative advocated by some Pentagon critics.

We invited the Anny and Marine Corps to participate in this discussion, but theydeclined.

Welcome, gentlemen. Thank you for coming in.

And Col. Charles, let's start with you. Why did your group publish this, expose this onyour web site?

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLES (Ret.) : We had quite a bit of communication from groupsin theater -- Afghanistan and Iraq express ing strong dissatisfaction with the current bodyarmor for various reasons.

11 began to appear like there might be a story. We decided to pursue it beginning inSeptember, and along the way picked this part of the study up. We did not get thecomplete study.

MARGARET WARNER: Now the study only looked at a certain kind of death : That is,torso wounds. Were you able to extrapolate from that to say how many of the overallAmerican deaths in Iraq migh t have been prevented with different body armor?

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLES (Ret.): We did not do that but the New York Times intheir piece which aired -- which was published last Saturday in theirnewspaper didextrapolate.

I know the reporter, Michael Moss, that did this work and veryconfident in hismeticulous research, and he said that over 300 deaths, if you included the Army, killed inaction were probably -- possibly prevented had we had thebetter body armor.

MARGARET WARNER: So 300 ofthe more than 2200 deaths.

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLE S (Ret.): Yes.

MARGARET WARNER: What was your reaction to the study, Col. Maginnis?

LT. COL. ROBERT MAGINNIS (Ret.): Well, you know, Margaret, the battlefield is nota controlled environment. It's not an experimental lab.

Yes, there's no doubt that soldierswere killed and they were killed because there weregaps in body armor. But it's hard to tell from the study whether or not all of lhem werewearing the same body armor and a lot of the otherdetails that you'd want to have intrying to make this deci sion .

MARGARET WARNER: And they did say they were preliminary results.

LT. COL. ROBERT MAGINNIS (Ret.): They did.

MARGARET WARNER: Well, now, Col. Maginnis, you are wearing what Americantroops wear in the field. Could you stand for us andjust tell us what this is and how itprotects the soldier wearing it.

LT. COL. ROBERT MAGINNIS (Ret.) : Okay. This is the outer protective vest, abouteight pounds.

MARGARET WARNER: This is called the --

LT. COL. ROBERT MAGINNIS (Ret.): The interceptor body armor but it's the vest.

And then you have inside both the front and the back ll-pound ballistic ceramic, youknow, protector -- small anns protection inserts.

Now we have a deltoid shoulderprotectorhere. They weigh about five pounds. Now theArmy soon will come out with side panels that weigh about three-and-a-half pounds thatare ballistic plates just like the front. And then ofcourseyou have things on theneck andin the groin.

MARGARET WARNER: All right. Col. Charles, so what is wrong with this? What didthe study show? Where were the vulnerabilities in this ves t according to this study?

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLES (Ret .): We ll, the major vulnerabilities were in this areabere. And I'd like to point out thi s is not a ballistic defense piece of gear. This isprotect ion against shrapnel but it's not the same as this hard plate that's in the front andthe rear.

So there is no ball istic plate protection here, so this is an area ofconcern -- this wholearea here and then around the throat and neck.

MARGARET WARNER: Stay standing both of you, please. Col. Charles, you're wearingone more expensive alternative advocated by some. What is it and why is it better? Itactually looks skimpier, ifI may use that word, than what Col. Maginnis is wearing.

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLES (Rer.): Well, first of all, we did not bring the shoulderattachments which are available.

But this is an outfit called Pinnacle Armor. produ ces -- the trade name is Dragon Skin.And these are small titan ium ceram ic plates that are positioned in kind of a fish scaleapproach.

And it gives you protection from there to here, and then from the rear there back. There'sabout an inch-and-a-half on each side where there is no protect ion as compared to, youknow. about a foot on the side on here.

There also obviously is vu lnerability here and around the throat and so on. But, ov erallit's abo ut 140 percent more area ofprotection with this system than the inte rceptor.

MARGARET WARNER: Why wouldn't 140 percent more area be better?

LT. COL. ROB ERT MAGINNlS (Ret.): Well, it would be ifit was all proven throughscience. You know, certainly the shoulders and the neck, major difference with this -- nogroin protection .

And, you know. the contracting people as well as the Army scientis ts say. look. becareful wi th Dragon Skin because it's good for a kni fe fight but we don't want to take it toIraq because o f the ballistic issues. And they're not comfo rtabl e with it yet, but perhaps inthe future.

MARGARET WARNER: Please be seated. What do you mean the ball istic issues? Is thisa question of mobi lity or is there a difference in these two between. let's say you took adirect hit -- let's forge t about the gaps or set that aside -- is there a difference in the levelof protection betw een this ceramic one and this one with these disks?

LT. COL. ROB ERT MAGINNlS {Ret .]: Well, [ can't tell you the exact because it 's

classified but this will take a fairly sizable small arm directhit. And he'll have to speakfor his own.

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLES (Ret ): This will not only will take that hit but will takemultiple hits and the ceramic plate used in interceptor, one of the complaints from thetroops in the field was that too often after one round impact, then you had a bunch ofgravel basically inside the pouch.

It basicallyjust kind of disintegrated and lost his rigidity and crumbledupon impact.

MARGARET WARNE R: Is there also -- [ had read today, Col. Maginnis, an issue ofmobility or at least some commanders were sayingthough you look a linle moremobilized than Col.Charles at themoment, that this actually was a little more flexiblethan this.

LT. COL. ROBERT MAGINNIS (Ret.) : Well, you know, you can modify this. You cantake these shoulderpads off. You cantake this neck guard orr: You caneven take otheraspects. You know. it really depends uponwhatthemission says.

Now. we'veupgraded a lot, at least five times overthe lastcouple of years to include thisballistic plate, and it really addresses the issue that he just brought out.

MARG ARET WARNER: Col. Charles, the insurgents are tremendously adaptable, andas been pointed, out they've kind of adapted; they know what this vest looks like. Whywouldn't they just adjust to this vest?

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLES (Ret): Well, they had the chance. There was anunsolicited letter from an American contractor overthere who was shot eight times in theback wearing one of these that he purchased forhis own use.

And he did not know he had been shotunti l he got back and took it off and saw thebulletperforations in the canvas cover. There was no soft tissue damage so it's proven in thefield that it can take multiple hits and still provide protection.

MARGARET WARNER: What do the people you've talked to tell you about why themilitary has not adopted this? Is it the cost? Is that they really have doubts about itseffectiveness?

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLES (Ret): The basic reason, as hard as this may be for youraudienceto understand, is not invented here:Bureaucratic turf protection because theArmy people that were charged withproviding this ten, fifteen years ago had a program - it produced something beginning in 1998 I believe, 1999. But it wasn't this - and t. Theydidn't want to use this because they did not claim invention of it.

MARGARET WARNER: Is there a little bureaucratic problem here or--

LT. COL. ROBERT MAGINNIS (Ret.) : There's bureaucracy everywhere Margaret. In1999, the interceptor came on line. There have been a lot of modifi cations since. We'restill making those modifications. It's not perfect.

There's no protection system that's 100 percent perfect but it is a lot better than it was andit's getting better all the time. The scientists tell us that it's the best that the world hastoday.

MARGARET WARNER: Better than this?

LT. COL. ROB ERT MAGINNIS (Ret.) : They said bar none. Ynu know, I've alreadymade my statement with regard to Dragon Skin .

You know, they're looking at this. Anything that comes across their table they willexamine. They have research going on at MIT even now on a variety of technologies.

We want to find the best technology to save our soldiers without jeopardizing mobili ty.

MARGARET WARNER: How much more would it cost to buy these?

LT. CO L. ROBERT MAGINNIS (Ret.) : Well , you know, that's a contractual issue . Idon't know what his firm wou ld sell the Army his particular product for. But first it has togo through all the extensive ballistic tests which it hasn't but this material has .

MARGARET WARNER: And , finally, to you, Col. Charles, as Col. Maginnis has said,the Marines have ordered now side panels for these vests. How much of the problem willthat solve?

LT. COL. ROGER CHARLES (Ret.): Well, it won't solve the proportion to the addi tionalarea that's being covered hut let me just say I am not a representative for Pinnacle Armor.

We were told by several independent consultants who work for the Pentagon that cannotbe narned because of fear of losing their jobs that this was probably the best availablebody annor. It's wha t they wou ld take to Baghdad. They do not have any financial tieswith Pinnacle Armor. We're not saying it's the best. We're saying it ought to get a fairtest.

MARGARET WARNER: And what's your very briefexplanation ofwhy 80 percent ofthese soldiers did suffer wounds that went into the gaps?

LT. COL. ROBERT MAGINNIS (Ret. ): Well, some of the soldiers weren't wearin g bodyarmor because the study j ust isn't clear. You know, those that were, you know. yes, thereare places that you can shoot them. And it depends upon their position and so forth. Soit's a tough. tough finding. We're doing our best I think.

MARGARET WARNER: All right. Col. Maginni s and Col. Charles, thank you both.

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JIM LEHRER: And, again, the major development of the day: Supreme Court nomineeSamuel Alita again declined to say the right to abortion is settled law.

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LOAD-DATE: January 12, 2006

Jan. 12, 2006Military Analysts CallBriefers:MG Stephen Speakes, Director, Force Development, Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff, G-8,United States ArmyMG Jeffrey Sorenson , Deputy for Acquisition and Systems Management, Office of the Ass istant

Secretary of the Army (Acquisition, Logistics and Technology)Host: Allison Barber, DASD eSD-public Affairs

Ms. Barber: This is Allison Barber. We have with us General Speakes and General Sorenson .Today's call and information is on the record and we'll open it up. General Speakes, if you'd liketo go ahead, and then we'll take some questions and move forward . Thank you both for your timetoday.

Speakes: Sure. This is Major Genera l Steve Speakes. My job on the Army staff is the director offorce developmen t. As the director of force development, we're responsible for Army investmentaccounts for equipment; we're also responsible for overseeing the distribution of all of thatequipment. And so we get in the business of insuring that soldiers across the Army have theequipment they need in accordance with the missions they are given.

Wha t we would like to do is - General Sorenson and I - is talk our way through this. What we'lldo is Quickly high light what we think some of the key issues are, and then we'll talk through whatwe believe is the appropriate u or frankly, the truth in terms of some of the issues from ourperspective.

The first issue is we saw in the weekend coverage the perception that essent ially , once again, wein the military are react ionary to the developments that are happening over on the battlefield. Andso what we'll talk a little bit is our longstanding commitment to go ahead and field the right stuff,and to anticipate trends on the battlefield.

The other thing that you saw is some discussion that said we continue to have a problem withvarious armored vehicles. And what we can quickly summarize for you is the success story thatwe have had in armored vehicles, and what we continue to do to improve our overall armoredvehicle posture.

So what we'd like to do first of all is to begin by talking a little bit about body armor. I think thatand for example, I saw Colonel Maginnis the work that you did on MacNeil Lehrer (referencing 11January broadcast), and obviously, you have not only worn it, but you can talk it, and so what Iwill do for everybody else is just summarize some of the key points from our perspective.

Integrated body armor, interceptor body armor is something that has been in the Army inventoryessentia lly since the start of this war. We have gone from about 75,000 sets that were availableand distributed in the Army at the time we crossed the line of departure in Kuwait, to now over700,000 sets. Th is amount is enough for all the forces operating in the Area of Operations plusthe majority of the operating force of the Army.

But, more importantly, it has gone through a continuous series of improvements, and theimprovements have been a twin pull of the dynamic of what we see on the battlefield and thenwhat our venous research, development and testing activit ies teU us back here in the UnitedStates. And so those two imperatives are then constantly giving the Army the chance to seewhere we ought to go to improve, and then to make those improvements .

The most important feedback we get always is what we call operational need statements, whichare statements from the commander in the combat zone of what he needs to improve thecapab ility. And they are short, specific requirements that commun icate here is the need that wesee, and then here is the quantity that we want fielded . They are then brought in to the Army; they

are worked within the Arm y, both as a matter of strategy in terms of how fas t we can do it, whatthe techno logy is, and then to make sure that we have a distribution program once we get theactual capability put together. So, those are the dynamics that drive us.

Now, let's talk specifica lly about what we have been able to field. I mentioned 700,000 sets ofinterceptor body armor has been provided to soldiers. The next major improvement that we sawin terms of the qual ity of armor was what we call the deltoid axillary protector (DAP). And as manyof you have seen on TV , what that involves is an abil ity to protect both the shoulder and also theside of the body.

Now, the issue there was that that came in (inaudible) in 2004, and essentially by January [sic.september] in 2005, we had completed fielding about 170,000 sets of what we ca ll DAP . NowDAP was our best effort to insure that sold iers had mobility in their shoulders and upper body.And so what it d id is it gave you a protection against fragments , beca use what we were seeingwas soldiers in the com bat zone - particularly who were up in turrets - had a problem in that theywere being exposed to fragmentation and had no protection over their shoulders and side. And sothis material, which has the same basic ballistic protection as the outer tactical vest - wh ich isworn across the res t of the bod y - gave us the ability to protect shoulders on this - sold iers thatwere exposed , and also the side of their bod y.

And so that was the in itial effort that we undertook to try to fix someth ing that we saw was a resu ltof com bat - wh ich is the need to protect so ldiers aga inst fragmentation .

The next thing we wanted to do was to continue to improve the quality of the armor that weactually issue to so ldiers. And so what we 've been ab le to do is work on an increase to the qualityof the actual armor plate that we have provided to sold iers. And at this poin t now, we've gotessentially the second generation of armor plating that has been issued - actually. I'm sorry - thethird generation of armor pla ting that we have issued this war to enable soldiers to better beprotected against the ballist ic threat that they face.

And so. that is som ething that we have undertaken to do over the course of the last year, and it'sanother success story, and one that we don't want to publicize. The rationale for that is obvious:the more we talk about it, the more information we provide the enemy. And one of the thingsthat's been very, very concerning to Army leaders is the open discussion of spec ific targetingweaknesses or vulnerabilities that we see on soldiers when we see it in the media. And so in thiscase, what we have done is quietly fielded an enhanced capability to the basic SAPI (small armsprotective inserts) plate that many of you have worn in theater whe n you have been in there.

So that is another important aspect of our ove rall program , which is as we improve, not topublicize what we're improving and why . And you can obviously anticipate with your respectivebackgrounds why that's so important.

The next issue then was something that the Arm y and the Marines both took on in their own wayand that was the actual add ition of SAP I plates to the side of the body. To give you a perspective.you're talking about essentially about nine inches of the side of a bod y that is righ t now notpro tected by the side of a SAP I plate. In other words , what you've go t is the OAP protecti ng alarge measure of the side of a bod y, but you don 't have the ac tual ballistic protection that isafforded by a SAPI plate.

And so, the requ iremen t came in essentially in September to the Army in a final fo rm thatidentified our requirements then to provide what we are now call ing side SAPI pro tection. Andside SAPI pro tect ion was the final element in all of this. It was designed to give us essentiallyprotect ion that augmen ted the Deltoid Axillary Protector or OAP I which alread y had progressed tothe shoulder and side of the body. So this was our latest effort in terms of continuing to improvethis overall design and our capabilities.

What we are seeing obviously is cont inuing evolutions in the nature of threat that we face . As youknow, the rise of the lED has been something we've noted and we are reflecting in our bodyarmor protection, and the increas ing lethality of the weapons system s being used against us.

And so those dynamics will make this a cont inual process. And so whe n headlines that we seeright now describe that we are now belatedly issuing or rushing out to correct a deficiency, thoseheadlines entirely miss the point.

This has been a programmatic effort in the case of the Army that has gone on with great intensityfor the last five months; was underway in December in terms of final decisions were being madeand capabilities that we will see fielded here in the spring . And so all of this is something that theArmy is very committed to, wh ich is a continuous evolution in our ability to better protect soldiers,and yet at the same time, to master the dynamics of not overburdening them .

The soldiers who appeared yesterday in front of Senators Warner, Levin and Reed captured very,very well the fact that we are at about the point where a soldier has to make serious decis ionsabout how much this armor he or she can afford to wear cons istent with mission, and with theoperat ing environment in terms of temperature or other environmental factors .

And the Marine that appeared in front of the public yesterday specifICally addressed why hedoesn 't use DAP. And his view of DAP is that it is unduly restrictive to his ability to operate withhis soldiers and upper body, and he doesn't prefer to wear it. We certainly understand that, andthat has been a part of all of this. is the design of all this body armor, and General Sorenson wintalk to that in detail because that is critical. None of this stuff is rushed out to the point thatsoldiers look at and don't feel irs been integrated or proper1y tailored to the rest of the equipmentthey are wearing. And that involves soldiers who are operating in a prone position, or soldiers forexample who are in combat assaults, or soldiers who are truck drivers. And this capability has gotto be universal in the sense that it fits all those operating environments and enables the soldier todo his or her job.

The other thing, when we say his or her, it's an important factor to consider. We can be outfittinga 245 pound man , as we demonstrated yesterday, or you can be outfitting a 115 pound femalemilitary policeman . Both of them require the same amount of protection. Both of them obviouslyhave very different carrying capabilities in terms of how much they can hold in the way of bodyarmor and then all the rest of the weapons ammunition that they carry with them as a part of theirbasic load.

So those are the factors that then cause implementation decisions to not be snap decisions. It'snot a matter of simply snapping your finger. And then the other final part is that all of this isrigorously tested as part of the design process that General Sorenson will talk about, and is alsothen a part of cont inuous surveillance as we continue to buy and test as we go through thisprogram.

So all of this I would summarize is designed to give you the belief that the protection of soldiers isour number one mission. Continuous evolution of this protection is absolutely essent ial , and thatwe can't get by by ever saying that a solut ion that we have today is the optimum . It represents ourbest at the moment, and will cont inuously be improved as we see the need to do it or we developthe capabil ity to do it.

So what I would like to do now is pause, and I will give over to General Sorenson, who is ourmilitary deputy for acquisition.

MG Sorenson : OK, my name is Jeff Sorenson. I am the deputy for acquisition and systemsmanagement. Let me just kind of cover a couple points that I think Steve - General Speakes has already mentioned, but let me just emphasize it.

As he pointed out, we have gone through a continual evolution here of improvement in terms ofcapabil ity. I mentioned yesterday we've gone through seven improvements. He mentioned thefact that we are on our third generation of plates. The other part icular improvements areessentially to the vest itself, as well as to other outer parts, specifically the DAP and as well nowthe side plates.

In all cases we have taken a very rigorous approach to making sure that as we produce thiscapability and develop it that we are taking into accou nt much of the human recto-s wtlich thesoldiers have to operate within. And I know in some cases peop le think that's a very bureaucraticprocess, but as we certainly take a look at this the last thing we want is to protect these soldiersfrom gett ing killed by a bullet , and yet have them suffer with this additional weight of - you know,a 130 pound fema le or a 140 pound male, 30 extra pounds of body armor in 130 degree heat andsuffer a death from heat stroke. So these are the types of things that have made this verycomplex, as well as their ability to even move, and in some cases, get up and get down and getout of the way.

I'd like to take this moment just to cover a couple other points which I think probably would be ofsome value, because I think they are important, especiall y in the last 24 hours with peop le indifferent companies mak ing accusations and allegations in wtlat their capabil ities are.

I have seen, to some distress , part icular members of the Hill talking abou t how we need to talk invery high degrees of specificity what types of coverage and capabilities we are doing. As GeneralSpeakes says , we don't want to give any of this information out. Th is is very sens itive to our chief;in fact, even contin uing to have these discussions is something that I don 't think he is reallyappreciative of because of the fact that it talks to someth ing that is very sensiti ve to him withrespect to force protect ion.

But recognize as we 've done this, this is just one piece of the overall force protection capability.This is the personal piece. We 've done the armo ring of the vehicles ; we 've also done and addedelectronic and counter measures, and we have also changed a lot of the techniques, tactics andprocedures with which they operate. And all these are generated to trying to improve the soldier'sability to be better protected with respect to force protection.

Now one particular instance here, we had a company come up yesterday and basica lly allegethat the y had a capab ility that quite frankl y the Arm y has ignored and has really not takenseriously, and so I just want to put out some facts with respect to that.

The company's name I believe was Pinna cle. Facls are that we did test this particular capabilityback in 2004, and it failed. They have subsequently worked to improve their particular system, butwith respect to our abili ty to validate with their improvements, we have not been able to do so asyet.

The PEO and the PM have discuss ed this with the CEO as of the end of December, and offeredto procure some systems to verify manufacturer's performance claims, but at this poin t in time thecompany said that they don't rea lly have a production system available and will not have it readyfor testing or even prototypes until February of 2006 . However, with respect to the system , theyhave provided some plates , which we have done some initially testing of up at Abe rdeen testcenter . And though the tests are not maybe at this point in time representative of the entirePinnacle armor system, the preliminary test data says at this point that th is will not meet theArm y's requirements. Again I say this will not meet the Arm y's requirements. It will not meet itwith respect to performance; with respect to weight it is estimated at this point in time that it willadd 10 more pounds to just a medium size, so as opposed to a 3D-pound weight, we now have40 pounds. In addition , the initial understanding of the costs, it's about 50 percent greater.

So we are welcome at this point in time to have them provide this capability and have us analyzeit, but to date, it has not been anyth ing that has passed our part icular test , nor is it something thatthey are able to produce at this time for our evaluation in a complete system.

And with that, I think I will stop and let anybody ask any questions that they might have .

Q: It may be for Genera l Sorenson, or whichever of you gentlemen . Two questions keep comingup. Number one, is the cost an issue? How much extra are we spending? Is there a default in thebudget? And number two, I would like to know if you guys are using any special fast-trackprocurement methods to get this stuff bought and in the field?

MG Sorenson : Let me try to address that. With respect to cost , we do have funding to pay for thisparticu lar added capability .

Q: What is it costing per set?

MG Sorenson: The costing per set, at this point in time, all I can tell you is right now the entirecontract is going to be - are you talking about the extra side plates now, or are you talking aboutthe entire ensemble?

Q: Well, let's take each. I mean, you know, can you give me an idea wha t each costs per soldier,what are spending on armor for the basic vest? Jeff and I and a bunch of others were over in Iraqin Decem ber and we wore the basic vest wh ich has the front and back plates, and some sort of acollar arrangement, and I don't know what that cos ts, and what do the enhanced systems cost?

MG Sorenson: OK, if I add up all the different pieces and parts that go to what you now know tobe your IBA, which is essentially your vest, with your side plates , it's roughly at this point in timeabout $2,100 for that particular piece . If you add the OAP, it's another $300, and you add the sideplates we are probably talking about another 51,000 . So add it all together, you're probab ly$3,400 or someth ing of that-

Q: Right. So basically everyone who's saying we 're not willing to spend another $260 a sold ier isfull of something other than Swiss cheese.

MG Sorenson: Thai's correct, that 's correct.

Q: Last question, I'm sorry . Can you tell us if you're using any of the fast-track procurementprocedures to get th is stuff out and in the field?

MG Sorenson: I think at this point in time we are. In fact, the way they basically work thisparticular cont ract is we 're going to put on contract initially, if you will- and I don't know if you gotto see yesterday what the particu lar soldier wearing it looked like, I mean, he had - the sideplates .go into a pouch, the pouch is attached to the melle - if you will - vest there . And whatwe 're doing right now is accelerating the delivery of the pouches themsel ves. And clearly we'vestructured in the cont ract a very aggress ive capability. In fact, in some cases we will be able toproduce and outstr ip what the Marines are producing in the time frames they are looking atbecause of access to additional contractors .

Q: A couple questions . The weight of the average soldier, the weight of the average combat load .I have a picture of a Marine with all the accou trements and it came out to 95 pounds. That 'shelpful in this argument. So if there are some official numbers we can have that wou ld be wellrece ived .

Yesterday the representative I was debating was arguing that the SAPI front plate, you know,shattered inside with one round became useless. I didn't accept that. But I need - and I amsensitive to what the chief is saying, so, you know, help me as to wha t we can say. And then the

last question, on this dragon skin stuff. Th is guy was saying you had (Navy) SEALS using it, anumber of federal agencies, a whole bunch of people over there, and the last thing I didn't acceptis one of them took eight shots in the front or the back. I forget, and none of them penetrated.Can you help me on any of these?

MG Sorenson : Bob, the only thing I can help you with is the following. Al l I can lell you is the PMand the PEO have engaged that compa ny with respect to dragon skin. That's the name of thecompany, it's called Pinnacle Armor. We have offered to buy some of their systems to verify theirclaims. The answer that we got is that they do not have a production system available for us totest. So all the claims with respect to, you know, they took eight shots and everybody's wearing itand all that kind of stuff is interesting and nice; however, comma , they have not come throughand not been validated by the Army with respect to testing to our requirements.

As I said before, to date, they failed in 2004, we brought them back right now. we've tested theirplates. Their plates at this point in time do not satisfy the ballistic protection required. They do notsatisfy the ballistic protection required. As well, their plates are heavier, they would add about 10more pounds to what we think we are currenUyweighing, and that's about 31 pounds, and aswe ll . the cost of it is such is that it adds - I mean, their cost right now, I've seen cost fIQures thatjust to get their plates is at like $5,000, so already, you're not even talking about the system,you're just talking about the plates.

Q:Wow.

MG Sorenson: So, all their stuff, in terms of their discussion, is interesUngand probablynoteworthy and newsworth y, but the fact of the matter is it's aJl - you know, we haven't seen thebeef here. It's all , as someone would say, all Hooah, no do-ah . You can quote me on that one. Imean the fact of the matter is they haven't brought anything to bear . I mean, they just have not.And we cont inue to ask for it, and it has not been available.

MG Speakes: There's one other point that I wou ld like to add without going into to much specifics,and that is when General Sorenson's guys do the testing . Obviously, we are not satisfied with justone impact.

MG Sorenson : Correct .

MG Speakes : And so that idea that because their system has the ability to repel multiple-roundimpacts, that it's better than ours, is just wrong. That's fundamental to the testing that the Armydoes . And obviously, we don't want to go any more specific than that. But there is an issue thereof basic credibil ity. You're not going to give a soldier something that is good for only one roundbefore the plate shatters, and that was the impact that you were left from listening to the McNeilLehrer stuff last night. That guy made that claim .

MG Sorenson: I would second that, and I forgot to make that statement before, but I completelyagree with Genera l Speakes . I mean, the fact of the matter the perfonnance of this capabil ity isobviously exceeding one round. And we won 't go into what either type of round or whatexceeding that means. But the fact of the matter is it does not shatter wtth one round.

MG Speakes: And then there is one other issue that we probably ought to take on, which is thefundamental question of have we provided protection in a timely way? We just addressed boththe cost that is being invested by the American government, by the American taxpayer inprotect ing every sokl ier. It's extraord inary. The other thing we need to address is the fact that weare not operating on a timely basis.

Let's put it in terms of comparison . Once we adapted to the operating environmen t in Iraq, itbecame clear that the original concept that said that body armor was something that wasprioritized to essentially dismounted soldier - the combat infantryman, the combat engineer. and

instead became a full-force requirement , what we had was in the summer of 2003 the realizationthat we had add itional need for essentia lly the rest of the force . Now the enorm ity of thatrequirement was staggering at the time. I think the importan t thing then was that with in the periodof then to April of 2004 , we were able to equ ip the entire opera ting force in the CENTCOM AORwith body armor. And that was a figure approaching 200,00.0soldiers . And so the enormity ofboth the Department of Defense's response, but also the American manufacturers who did whatthey were asked to do to produce this to a standard. And one of the other things GeneralSorenson hasn't highlighted, I guess but is the normal product that he does , is in addition to thetesting he's highlighted is he certifies, the other thing is the continuous testing of every lot that'sproduced. And so what you are talking about now is the ability to propert y equip every soldier inthe AOR, and to do it to a standard where we could guarantee to American taxpayers and fam ilymembers that what we were giving them met standards.

And so this idea that we're simply not interested, and we're not timely, and we 're reactive and weonly wa it for press reports is just frankly offensive. And I think that's the other thing we' ve got torefute is somehow we are pass ive and uninterested in this business. It is a matter of passion, andevery one of this who is a part of this thing feels the moral imperative to do the best we can.

Ms. Barber: Any other questions?

Q: All ison, is there someone who can give us the weight of the average soldier, and the weig ht ofthe combat load, if there's a difference between the Marine Corps and the Army in the field inIraq?

MG Speakes: Th is is Steve Speakes. I wou ld suggest that we not go that way. Here 's why. Whenwe are talking combat load, I was fascinated because what you had was two different dismountedprofessionals appear in front of Congress yesterday. Both of them acquitted themselves verywell. They both explained that the whole issue of how much a soldier is wearing, or a Marine, isdepe ndent upon mission and the operating environment and not upon the Service. In otherwords , both of them discussed the same basic terms - outer tact ical vests, SAPI plates, it's agiven . After that, then, do you wear the DAP or not? An importa nt question . I think when we getthe side armor out in sizable quantities, it is going to be something where soldiers are once againgoing to interact with their chain of command and decide whether they need it and wan t it,because it's more poundage once again. And the other thing is it seals your body in in a way thatis going to become very, very heat producing. Because right now your body breathes essentiallyin the sides, in the top where you have some level of ventilation.

The other thing that you then have is your weapons, and most soldiers are carrying two weaponsnow, they are carrying an M4, they are probably also carrying a nine millimeter. You're car ryingthe magazines for both. You're carrying the ammun ition that's in the magazines. You're carryingwater, and then you 're carrying at least probably one day's worth of some kind of combat ration.When you put all that together , the figures really become staggering. 00 they wear it on asustained basis, or do they take it on and off? All of those subjec ts that become something thatas we talked poundage yesterday, it became very confusing for the civilians who were listen ing.And so I'd simply say, if you take a look at it right now what we' re showing is the basic armor thatwe are issuing a soldier, for a med ium-size soldier, wen t from about 60 pounds to about 31pounds. That 's only the start of what a soldier or Marine is wearing. And after that. it's all missiondependent, not Service dependent. Does a 16 to 31 pound increase help a little bit?

Q: So the other take awa y is this. You have gone through three basically continuous evolut ions inthe field ing of these sets . Is that correct?

MG Sorenson: No, not exactly. Partially correct. What was said was we have gone through threegenera tions of the protective plates. We have gone through another four evolutions of the ent ireensemble, so in all pieces here we have continued to improve everything, OK? So, total is seven.So we have made improvements to the vest , we 've made improvements to the external elements

of the vest. we've made internal improvements to the type of composites, if you will, that are usedin these plates. And those have gone throug h three generations.

Q: OK, and the total is you now have enough to, you know, to equip on average about 700,000 ormore than (enough ?) to equip the entire operating force?

MG Sorenson : Oh, absolutely. No question .

COL Thoma s Spoehr (Director of Materiel, AITny G-8) : More than enough to equ ip the soldiers inIraq, not quite the operating force . (The operating force is defined as every soldier in the Armythat could potentially deploy.)

Ms. Barber: Great, well with that, thank you folks for calling in and for your time. GeneralSorenson , General Speakes, thank you for your time.

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TranscriptMilitary Analyst BriefingTopic: QDRJan. 25, 2006, 2E556 The PentagonMr. Ryan Henry, PDUSD Policy; VADM Evan M. "Marty" ChanikHost: Eric Ruff OASDPAON BACKGROUNDTranscriber: Murphy

Mr. Ruff: Hell o? Folks, this is Eric Ruff and with me is, among others, are Ryan Henryand Admiral Marty Chanik, and they'll be talking to you for a second - in a second ortwo.

I just wanted to open up by talking a little bit about sort of what we are doing here.Obviously, as we are getting closer and closer to releasing the QDR, in about - what is itnow, probabl y about 12 days or something like that - a week from this Monday,information is already start ing to come out more and more.

You probably saw Mark Mazzetti ' s piece in the LA Times (Jan. 24), so we kind of madea decision to start talking about this a little bit. So we are talking on background nowabout the QDR. And I think the framework we are working in - and we have a documentthat' s called a preface. It ' s a preface that's going to go in the front of the QDR when wesend it up. And we can make this available to you guys. I don 't know if we have theelectrons on it yet - but we have a - it 's about a three-page docum ent, and Tara (Jones)or somebody will get it out to you either by fax or email, ifwe can email it OK? So, Ithink we've got all that information for everybody who ' s on the call.

Import ant to remember here is that this QDR is not a new beginning. In essence, we'vebeen working lessons learned since we came in in 200 I. And it ' s been a process by whichover the last year or so a number of assumptions have been looked at and tested andtested and the thinking has been throughout this what have we learned from Iraq? Whathave learned from Afghanistan? And what do we know going into the future about whatour force structure is going to be?

This thing has been a very high collaboration with civilian - I haven 't been here morethan two years, but the civilian and military collaboration in terms of this document, andRyan and the admiral can certainly speak to this - has been really something to watchover the last year-plus.

So with that in mind, I'll just - we ' ll tum it over to Ryan and then Ryan, you and Martycan just take it from here.

Mr. Ryan : Yeah, hi, this is Ryan Henry. First of all I want to say hi to Ken and Tim froma former life. I am going to walk you through some high points on the QDR. My role wasas I guess basically the traffic cop, the manager, and then I was supported by Marty who

is the J-8 here, and also the folks in PA&E, and the three of us pretty much representedthe management cell.

One thing unique about this QDR as Eric was alluding to is that it was not a staff product.It is the work of the four stars, and their Senate-confirmed civilian equivalents in thebuilding. They drove it; they made all the decisions; they directed the work on it; and

. they' re the guys that put thousands and thousands of hours into it.

It is a wartime QDR. That 's one thing that ' s different from in the past. We think thatwe're in the fourth year of a very long war. It' s a war with a different sort of enemy thanwe faced in the past, and different sort of needed capabilities that we have to develop.

The QDR itselfis supposed to be a 20-year look into the future of what the departmentneeds. We're supposed to develop a strategy and then resource that strategy. Anotherthing that we did different this time is before starting the QDR we did the strategy. Thatwas published in March of '05. It 's available on DefenseLink. It ' s an unclass document.That strategy took about six months of the senior leadership ' s time. And when we refer tothe senior leadership, we' re talking the secretary and the deputy, the chairman and thevice chairman of the Joint Chiefs , three Service secretaries, five ~ four service chiefs, andfive undersecretaries. And that comprises the headquarter'Ssenior leadership, and then ona periodic basis we bring in the nine combatant commanders to get their inputs. Thatgroup was supported by the vice chiefs of the Services and some of the other directreports to the secretary who, at their four-star level, ended up doing an awful lot of thestaff work to push it forward to the senior leadership.

What we came out with were two twin imperatives. And the bottom line of the QDRreport itself says that we need to shift our balance and the capabilities we had, that theSept. I 1, 2001 represented a change and an off-balancing ofwhat the strategic contex tthat we thought we had up until that point. And so we are shifting our balance and we areshifting our capabilities. And I' ll talk to some of the areas we are doing that in.

We see four sets of challenges that we have in the future to be able to address. Andhistorically we've looked at a traditional set ofchallenges which basically involved majorcombat ops, and state-versus-state conflicts. And we looked at everything else as a lesserinclud ed case to be able to meet that.

As we look to the future we see a set of irregular challenges which are represented byboth Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the operations that we saw in Haiti and Liberia, andthis is where usually the enemy is within a state, but not part of a state. We are notfighting anothe r nation-state, but some sort of movement, and it requires a different set ofcapabilities, sometimes thought as lower level but still an area where we need to developmore expertise.

The second set is a catastrophic set ofchallenges. And those are one time of events thatcould occur to the U.S. They are just unacceptable for us to accept that blow. PearlHarbor would be an example of that; 9-11 is an example of that; getting hit by a nuclear

lED in one of our cities would be an example of that. And so defense has a role inprotecting the nation against that in the future .

And then the final set of the four is disruptive. And that is a challenge or a threat whichmight come against us that would basically neutrali ze the American military as a keyinstrument of national power.

And you kind of think of if another country would have gotten stealth rather than us,what would have that meant? If somebody comes up with a bio-warfare agent that cangenetically target our soldiers or something, than those are the type of challenges that wewant to be able to meet.

So we look at the future; we look at about .getting capabilities across all four of those setsof challenges. .

The second big part of the QDR was a recognition that as we change the capability of theforces in the field we have to change the headquarters. That the headquarters and the waythat we 're currently and operated is not sufficiently agile to be able to support thefighting forces that we have over there . So we have to do things to better suppo rt themand to be able to accelerate our ability to reorient the force. So there is an intemal lookhere, too.

There's a recognition that this QDR, as Eric was saying, is a point in time across acontinuum oftransfonnation. Show it represents a snapshot in time. It is something thatstarted working on basica lly two years ago started the initial effort, and we' ll stilt beworking on it two years from now.

There is a point in time on the 6th of February where we send up a report to the Hill, but itis an evolving process.

Eric talked a little bit about the lessons leam ed and what went in here. It was more thanjust Iraq and Afghanistan. It is the - the other areas in the global war on terror - thePhilippines, the Hom of Africa, Georgia and the Pan-Sahel (in Africa). These are areaswhere we are trying to fight the global war on terrorism. We are working with partnernations; sometimes they lack the capability, sometimes they lack the will to be able toeffectively prosecute this, and we need to do things to build up their capabilities.

Another big area is humani tarian. Our biggest victories to date in the global war onterrorism which involves impacting the hearts and minds of the moderate Muslims havebeen in our responses to humanitarian disasters. Specifically, the earthquake aroundChristmas of '04 and then the tsunami from the earthquake, and then Pakistaniearthquake (October '05). And the polling that the agency does and the shift ofopinionsbecause of those toward the United States and away from radical Islam has been very,very significant.

So that speaks to another problem that we face in the future and that ' s one ofunpredictability and uncertainty. We cannot predict with any certainty whatsoever howour forces might be able to be used in the future. We can say with a very high probabilitythat within the next 10 years U.S. forces will be employed somewhere in the world wherethey are not today. But as far as when that will be, where that will be, or how that will be.there is just no way to determine that. So we have to have an agility of forces and wehave to build capabilities, rather than focusing on a specific threat.

And then the final area that has informed the work is our response in support of civilauthorities. specificaUy, lhe military ' s response to 9- 11, and now more recently HunicaneKatrina and Rita. And that in providing the American people security. we have a role toplay on the domestic front, too.

So the QDR then will speak to - the document will speak to four key focus areas that weare concerned with building more capabilities at the beginning of the 2151 century.

How do we provide defense in-depth to the homeland? How do we hasten the demise ofterrorist networks? How do we preclude hostile powers or rogue elements from acquiringor using WMD? And then finally, how do we influence and impact countries that are atstrategic crossroads?

And they're we are thinking ofthree countries specifically. We are thinking ofRussiaand to temper its move toward authoritarianism. We are thinking of China andsuccessfully managing its rise in the community of nations as a constructive force, and ifthat didn 't prove successful, how do we dissuade them from hostile ambitions? How dowe deter them from (inaudible - cursor? Cursory?) actions and ifca lled 00, how wouldwe be able to defeat them? And then finally then India. the world's democracy, secondlargest Muslim nation, we think: a key partner in the future, and how do we build astrategic alliance with them?

So those are four problem areas that the QDR addressed, and in doing that, they tried tocome up with for our external customer, who we personify in the president. how are wegoing to be able to provide him. and his successor more importantly, options to be able todeal with these key problem areas of the beginning of the 215t century?

And then for our internal customer, who we view as the joint warfighter, how do we getthem the capabilities set that they'll be more effective in dealing with these? And so theQDR then goes through and takes 12 different areas where we are interested indeveloping and enhancing capabiliti es. And then it goes on to look at the headquarter' sfunction - how do we do governance at the headquarter ' s level? How do we improve onsome ofour processes? What do we do as far as the human capital strategy? And thenfinally, and probably most importantly, what can we do in the area of buildingpartnership capability and capacity?

Now that partnership and capability capacity happens domestically. as far as workingwith state and local governments, Department of Homeland Security; it happens

interagency on the national security front , working with State Department, the NSC, CIAin an interagency process; and then internationally, how do we build the capability of thepartner nati ons that we work with? Because this is very clear to the Department ofDefense that we have to have lots of humility as we approach the problem set before us.

We are not going to be able to predict what is going to be able to happen, and we are notgoing to be able to so lve it on our own, either as a department or a nation . We are goingto be dependent on partners. Most times for sure they are going to be able to for sureaddress the problem cheaper than we can, and many times they are going to be able to doit more effectively because they are familiar with the local cultural terrain, they know thelanguage, and they can operate more effectively in the environment we are in.

Along those 12 areas that we talked about being able to make changes, we talk aboutleading-edge investments that we can make and decisions that we can make in the fiscalyear ' 07 bud get, that arrives on the Hill the same time that the QDR does . But those areon ly leading-ed ge investments. The major shifts the department needs to make will bemade as we do the program - future-year defense program in the coming year, which willlook at the years ' 08 through ' 13. So that's where a lot of the significant vectors that theQDR has set will find their way into programmatic change, although there are some thatare handled in the QDR itself.

And with that, at a top level - I guess one of the things - two other points real quick. Oneis we did do a force-planning construct. We have refined the force-planning constructfrom 2001. We maintain that we will still be able to do two major conflicts nearlysimultaneously, take one of them to the level of what we call a win-decisive, sometimescategorized as something that might result in a regim e change. We'll be able to do those.In the past , we had thought ofbo th of those as conventional campaigns. Goi ng forward,we want to have the capability to have one of them he a pro longed, irregular campaign.

The ana lysis that we did in the QDR clearly proved that the mo st stressing thing on theforce is not the high- intensity major combat operations, but it is the pro longed, irregularcampaign that goes on for a number of years and requ ires a rotational base to support it.And the multiplier effect there is what puts the stress on the force.

Some of the other things we learned is that we talk about the force some people think ofan active-reserve component. We also need to think about an operational and aninstitutional component. And the usability and the force that we employ forward is onlythe operational component. And so as we look at what the size of the force is, rather thanlooking at total end strength, whe re there is man y things on the institutional force we cando to transfer to civilian jobs or contractor jobs, we really - what the number we're reallyinterested in is what do we have in the operational force, and what are the capabilities ofthose forces versus the problem set we are confronted with?

And so the QDR does a lot to mo ve more capability and more num bers into theoperational force. It also does a lot to move more capability into the irregular special

operations arena, makin g some sizable increases there, and taki ng the general purposeforces and start to give them (soft-light?) capabilities.

Also in the force- planning construct, we recognize the need to have a deterrence, but nota one-size-fits-all deterrence , which we've had in the past of massive retaliation, but onethat wi ll also work against rogue powers who might be in a state of collapse or wouldseemingly appear to be undeterrable and also terrorists and their networks.

And so there was the addition of a broader deterrent capability. So the force-planningconstruct maintains the two-war strategy; maintains the forward presence; talks to asteady state versus surge. In the area of surge there's going to be two - we wi ll be able tohandle two major conflicts, one of them which might be a prolonged irregular and takeone of them to a win-decisive level.

It also recognizes that the force sizing, versus the force planning. is going to tend to be afunction of policy choices being made. What are you going to have in the way ofamobilization as you face different conflicts? What are you going to do as a rotationalbase? What are you going to do for timeIines (inaudible - at?) the operational criteria thatyou set for yourself? Are you going to stay engaged at the same level aro und the world?Are you going to do anything different institu tionally to be able to move forces from theinstitutional to the operational? And then what will you do with emergency autho ritiesyou might have like we currently have on end strength?

The QDR went in with the assumption that the force size, while it was about right, but theforce capability distribution needed a lot ofrebalancing. After a year of work andanalysis, we feel comfortable with that initial assumption and have kept it.

So wi th that, if Marty Chanik has anything to add I'll let him do that, and then we canstart taking your questions,

VADM: Chanik: Good afternoon. I think probably the best use of your tim e tha t goes isto go to your questions, because quite frank ly, Ryan really captured the essence of thereport and I think he highlighted it pretty we ll. So I think we're ready for questions.

Q: Yeah, this is Jeff MacCausland, sir, with CBS . Can you talk a bit more detail ,particu larly about the Arm y. I mean the secretary, frankly, got beat up a little bit beat uptoday in the press conference I watched. There' s been some leaks about reduction inNational Guard brigades and shifting force structure to the active, which could makesome sense, but it gets people down in comm unities all exe rcised (inaudible) interv iewedthe other day.

So can you talk a little bit spec ifically about Army, what you' re thinking about thereforce-structure wise, change the National Guard-active mix , those kind of things?

Mr. Henry: O~ well the Army is going away, obviously, from the differentiated divisionconcept to modular brigades, 77 of those of the combat brigades. Of those 77. in the

reserve component, there will be 28 that will be fully capable and on the par with theactive.

In the past, there was - we had 16 enhanced brigades, and not all of those were actuallywhole brigades. We're moving it up to 28. The brigade structure on the reservecomponent will stay at 106, but the remaining brigades will be in the combat support,combat service support.

So, from our way of thinking, we are bringing up the reserve component and makingthem part of the varsity. As we start to develop how we will use these brigades anddevelop rotational models, then the reserve component will be part of that forcegeneration model for the Army.

So, to be perfectly honest with you, we are a little bit perplexed on the type of responsesthat we are seeing. Now, in a planning process and as one starts to look at alternatives, allsorts of numbers are thrown around. And I think the reaction you are seeing is is it's notthat we are decreasing the Guard or taking them down. There is a mentally that says thatthe highest number that a Guard guy ever saw that what they might be at is not thenumber we settled at as we worked everything out. So at one point in time there werenumbers that were under consideration that were above 28 on the combat brigades, but atno time had anything been finali zed, as we balanced everything out, keep them ·at thesame level , 106 total brigades, 28 which are the combat ones, which is up from the 16quasi-full brigades that they have now .

Q: One quick follow up. Will there be any on the Guard side divisional flags go away?Because that gets them upset even if, you know, the number of brigades stay constant.

Mr. Ryan: Right, right. And as you are probably aware, there 's a lot of flags around rightnow to which there aren't necessarily whole units to go with. The number of flags willremain the same. The percentage of flags that have real , viable forces associated withthem will go up. But that is not to say that there might not he a handful around that are inthe current status that they are now that there's not necessarily a fully associated unit withthem. But no flags - to my knowledge - to my knowledge no flags will go away.

So they'll still have the same bragging rights.

Q: Exactly.

Q: Hello. Jed Babbin, American Spectator. Have you guys gotten a sign off fromNegroponte and Goss (Porter Goss?) on this? Because what I am hearing is you guys aregoing to be putting an awful lot more into establishing defense-related intelligencecapability and there could be a little bit of a turfwar brewing, no?

Mr. Ryan: The QDR has been staffed through the NSC, up to the highest levels, in(and?) components that comprise the NSC - the intelligence community, the State

Departm ent, the Department of Homeland Security, Justice Department, it has also beenstaffed through those organizations also.

I - we have not solved the problem of the iron major and the titanium colonel, either inour organization or other ones. You will be able to find somebody buried in anorganization who somehow feels that his particular parochial interest was not served asfully as he thought. You will oot find anybody at the senior levels of the defenseestablishment - and that's the four stars - that don 't believe in this document. That 's -- [mean, some of us that have participated in it think that the document itself is just anartifac t of the QDR . But really what the QDR was it was a process that brought thedepartment in, looked at a common set ofproblems, and came up with a cohesiveapproach to it that everyone buys in.

There - one of the things we get hit for is that there were no majo r weapon cuts. Wedidn 't kill any major weapon systems in the QDR. Because we had such a collaborativeeffort, we were able to make large investments in the areas we need to do, without havingto do that. And it couldn ' t have been done if it weren't the Services that were comingforward and saying this is how I can do my part to contribute to be able to shift thebalance and where we need to go.

So, I' ve only been in the Pentagon for three years, but guys that have been through hereand sat through all the QDRs say that this was fundamentally different in kind as far asnot just the approach at the senior leadership, but as it developed, the collaborative effort,the fact that - and the vices - and maybe Marty' s got a better count than I do - but Iwould say the vices put in 500 hours of their time over the last 15, 16 months, in sittingdown and collaboratively working with the under secretaries and the deputy and the vicechairman in trying to come up and work through these solutions.

And we couldn't got to where we did if this wouldn' t have represented - the spiritwouldn't have been one of that we are all in this together and we have to come up withcomm on solutions.

We also, as far as inclusivity, brought in on many of our meetings members oftheDepartm ent of Homeland Security, the CIA; we actually had some of our key alliespart icipate in our internal discussions. And so this was much more inclusive than it' sbeen in the past, too.

So, you know, there might be some people who feel that they were injured but we are notaware of anybody at a leadership level anywhere in the government that feelsuncomfortable with this report.

VADM Chanik: And just to put an asterisk to the question on Ambassador Negroponte,Office of the Secretary of Defense folks that are the intel side of tbe house is workingvery closely continuous process working with the director of national intell igence and theCIA. So there' s been an awful lot of crosstalk durin g the development of this QDR and

continuing onward with balancing the capabilities tha t are represented in all those threeorganizations.

Mr. Ruff: More questions?

Q: Ifnobod y else is go ing to jump in, it's Jed Babbin for one more. You've mentioned aterm and you just scared the liver out of me, guys. Nuclear lED?

Mr. Ryan: Yeah, I mean if - let's face it, we've got some bad guys out there that aretrying to develop a full nuclear full cycle, and have the abil ity to produce fissi le material.This is al l about what the (? Response) to the global war on terrori sm. It is weapons ofmass destruction. It is a globalizat ion mechanism which allows the movement ofmaterials and ideas in a network world, and it is the emergence of terrorist organizationsthat have no lim it to the amount of terror tha t they are willing to put on any nation or anygroup of people to get to the ir political ends.

And the nexus of those three things is what keeps us up at night.

Q: Forgive me for interrupting but I think one of things tha t I am hearing is that if it is anew term, it ' s got to be an identifiable threat. Is this near or longe r term?

Mr. Henry: We have countri es that are producing nuclear materials that are not under thenon-proliferation treaty right now. So it is a possibility of which we cannot ignore . And Imean it is the high end, worse case. It doesn 't necessaril y - a nuclear lED is notnecessaril y something that would have to go critica l, and it could j ust have a radiologicaldispersion aspec t of it -- known as an ROD - radiological dispersion device.

And the other thing is is the QDR is given a responsib ility to look out in the next 20years. When we go to the intelligence comm unity and ask them to look into the future,and to give us an assessment ofwhere we are going to be, they can do it with a certaindegree of accuracy out to five years.

The world we live in right now though, going out 10 years is an extremely iffy exerci se,one that they feel uncomfortable with. And they will not venture out to the 20-year markbecause the world's just too uncertain; we cann ot predict which way things are going togo . The enemy is evo lving too fast to be able to do any sort of linear extrapo lation.

And so we have a responsibi lity in looking out at that 20 years to be able to address allfeasible threats and to try to anchor what the high -end one is. And a terrorist with a with a - with fiss ile material, and with a little bit of know-how, is the worst-casescenario .

That coupled though - I would say that's on a par with a terrorist with bio-warfareknowledge, too, or access to bio-warfare materials. Both of those are the high end one.

Q : Thank you.

Q: This is Jeff MacCausland again. There's been a lot of leaks, and I emphasize thewords leaks, so you can say that's not necessari ly true, that one of the things this report isgoing to say to the shifting of a particu lar number of forces - particularly air and naval from, frankly, the Atlantic to the Pacific. Can you talk about that for a second?

And also , how do you see balancing the effort to, if you will, find a good relationshipwith the Chinese as opposed to creating a force structure that they find threatening andthen we end up, you know, fulfilling our own prophecies?

Mr. Ryan: Right. I mean that's a - let me deal with the latter one, the Pacific and stufflike that. I mean, stability is the coin of the realm in the Pacific. It' s not subject to analliance structure like the Atlantic is. The U.S. is a force for stability in the region . I thinkit's recognized by all. We don't use our forces out there in an aggressive nature.

By the same token, for operational respon siveness, the timelines due to the distanceinvolved are significantly different in the Pacific, so we need to have things forward . Ourability to respond with 17,000 troops within one week of Lbe Banda Aceh tsunami , to beable to bedelivering relief, we could not have done if we didn 't have our forward basingand forward presence structure that we have there.

In order to do that, there will be a shift of maritime toward the Pacific . We talked aboutthat in QDR '01; we continue to talk about that in QDR '06. And you' ll probably seesome specific metries in the report that will very discretely deal with that.

In the Atlant ic - the Atlantic is a -- to maintain our traditional relationship with NATO,to encourage the transformation ofNATO from a Cold War structure to one that canmake a difference to the world we live in. Obviously you' re aware that we ' re doing [SAP(International Sec urity Assistance Force) out-of-area ops there in Afghanistan, and we'reworking with them on the NATO response force, and we ' re having discuss ions on otherareas as we' ll go to Werkunde (Gennany) and the ministerial is coming up here in coupleof months on areas that NATO can continue to grow there. But it probably doesn'trequire the same force structure that it did during the Cold War.

Q: Thank you.

Mr. Ruff: OK. we'I l just recap here. We ' ll get this material out to you, and [ know one ortwo folks asked if they could get a transcript of this just for your own personal use andthe answer is yes, we 'll give you that. It's on background.

And I would just add one last thing and that is, you know, there ' s been a lot of discussionis building and QDR is certai nly part of this umbrella in the long war. And just for yourassay, you ' re going to be seeing in the days and weeks ahead the secretary and leadershipin this building talking more about this long war and what the components are. And Iwou ld just give you that as something to be watching out for as we go forward withspeeches and things like that.

OK? Thanks everybody.

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:> Fr om: ~=~;;~~~~~~[~~~~~~~7~:::~CDR ' OASD-PA]:>Sent ::>To::> Sub j e c t:>:>Sir/ Ma 'am - During our morni ng meeting with the service PAs to discuss theQDR/Budget/Defense Posture, an interesting i de a came up wr t the Iraq Progress Report .>:> I s t he r e va l ue to brining in some of the mi litary analys t s (s i mi l i a r t o what we 're do ingwi th t he QDR ) and briefing them on t he 9th about our release of the progress report on the10th? We can also se t up a phoner t oo i f you wis h . who would be the appropriate personto br i e f them?>:>VR/ CDR!,-:--:--:-_ ...,.:>OASD PA Defense Press Office Pol icy Team Defense Intelligence

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RE: Iraq Progress Report

Yes ma'am ... Lt Gen Re nua r t and Mr Ro dman b riefed the n l y s t s o n t he r eport i nOctober. He would be good again . . . o r BG Jones or COL i f yo u wan t a d i f fere ntleve l . Either way , I wou l d r ecomme nd an OSD-JS j oint brie f1ng - - wi t h the OSO brie f e rs peaking fi r s t since t hey brie f o n t he f i r s t t wo sect ions of t he report (po l i t i c a l ,eco nomic ) and we can matc h t he appropriate l e vel J -S speake r to who t hey ge t f o r OSO. Doest hat ma ke s e ns e? vr , ~~......

:> -- -- -Or i g i na l Message - - - - -:>From: Had doc k, El l e n (Kat i e) , OCJCS/PA

»sent • Tue s d a , January 3 1, 2~t::;::::::::::J:>To: CDR, OCJCS/PA; ~ Maj, OCJCS / PA:>Cc; CAPT, JCS OVCJCS PA:>Su b j e c t : FW : Iraq Pr ogres s Report>:>¥o ur thoughts?:>This i s t he " 90 10 " b r i ef .. . appropriate briefer? Mil Analys t s seems t ame e no ugh . ..:>V/ R:> Col H>

of t he mil i t a r y a na lys t s {simil i a r t o wha t we 're doingthe 9th a bout our r e l e a s e o f t he progre ss report on t het oo i f you wish. Who wou ld be t he appr op r iate pe r s on

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Haddock, Ellen (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PAesda an 31, 2006 7:46 PM

6:.- ~Maj , OCJCSIPAl(O) CAPT, JCS OVCJCS/PA CDR, OCJCS/PARE: Iraq Progress Report .... ...1

if t he y have s o me o ne i n mind f rom t hei r side.t he y are a va i labl e a.nd wan t t o do it . The other

make s e nse .i n OSD and s e egood by me, ifg ood .

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>Yes ma 'am. _. Lt Gen Re nuart and Mr Rodman briefed the mil analysts o n>t he re rt i n October . He wou ld be good again . .. o r BG J ones o r COL

if you want a dif ferent l evel. Ei t her way, I would rec ommend an>OSD- J S j o int briefing - - wi th the OSD briefer speaking firs t since they>brief o n the f i rs t t wo sections o f t he r eport (pol i tic a l, e c o no mi c) a nd>we c a n ma t c h the appropria te l evel J - S s peaker to who t he y ge t for 0 5D.>Does that mak~ s ense? vr , ....._......> -----Or i g i na l Me s sage - - - - -> Fr om: Had doc k , El l en (Katie), Col , OCJ CS/PA> Sent : ry 31, 200 6 Il j·,ili\-l~ •> To : CDR, OCJCS/ PA; .,.... ... Maj , OCJCS/PA> Cc : CAPT, JCS C;{!> Subject: FW : I raq Progr e s s Rep ort

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lTC, OCJCSJPA; lTC, JCS SJSRE: Iraq Progress Report

Ma'am... I just spoke with CDR i n OSC/PA ... The r e port is d ue to be del i ve r e d toCongress o n the 10 t h o f Februa ry , so it won't be included in the rol lout o f a l l the others trategic documents.

Here are the things OSC/PA is conside ring :

9 Feb - - Mi l Analyst Call with two bri e f e r s ( t hey haven 't decided who from OSD yet andthen appropriate level from J -S )9 Fe b -- Select one o r two media members and provide an embargoed interview with same twobriefers 1 0 Feb -- Report del ivered to Congress 1 0 Feb - - Media Advisory for i nterestedmedia to attend i n t e rv i e w with s ame t wo br i e f e r s

I've cc 'd LTC r!~=:::J o n this e-mail to b r i ng himt he LA p iece s o we can coordina te approp r i ate l y .

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~Thanks =::::;1,it doe s make sense.»Pkeaae get with in OSC andThe Rodman/Renua rt t e a m i s good by me,r e c ommended na mes a re a l s o good.>V/R>Col H

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>>>>>>>>> Yes ma'am ... Lt Gen Renuart a nd Mr Rodman briefed the mi l analysts>the r e ort i n Oc tober. He would be good again ... or BG Jones or COL

' f you want a d i fferent l evel. Ei t he r way , I wou ld recommend a n>OSO- JS joint briefing -- with the OSO b r i efe r s peaking firs t since they>br i e f on t he f irst two sections of the repo rt (po l i t i c a l , economic ) and>we can match the a pp r o p r i a t e l ev el J-S s peaker to who t hey get f o r OSO.>Doe s tha t make sense? vr ,

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Your t houghts?This is the "9010" brie f . .. appropriate briefer? Mi l Analysts seems tame

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> Is there value t o brining in some o f t he military a nalysts (s i mi lia r t o whatwe 're doing wi th the QCR) and bri e fing t hem on the 9th about our relea s e o f the progres sreport on t he l Ot h ? We can a l s o se t up a phone r too i f you wish . Who would be theappropriat e pe r s on to brief t hem?>>

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, CIV, OASO-PAIMonday, February 20, 2006 5:32 PMHaddock, Elien (Katie), Col, OCJCS/PA CAPT, JCS OVCJCS/PAFW : "Fighting the Long War" - copy? L.. .1

Long War- - copy?

hi. can someone on your s taff he lp with this request for one o f the mi li t a ry analysts?thanks !

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Today's Washingt on Times includes an article by Rowan scarborough that mentions anunclassified 27 - page Joi nt s taff briefing for Read Admiral Bill Sullivan. I believe ,a c cor d i ng t o the article, t he firs t s e c t i on i s - Why Ameri ca wants a short war. -

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Military Analysts CallThursday, March 16, 2006Lt. Gen. Martin Dempsey, commander of the Multi-National Security TransitionComm and - Iraq (MNSTC-I)On BackgroundHosts: Mr. Da llas Lawrence, OAS DPA, OASDPARoo LTG Dempsey in IraqTranscriber: Murphy

Lawrence: (in progress) the entire call will be on background. You are free to quotethe source as a senior military leader, but other than tbat, it ' s 00 background, andGeneral Dempsey should be calling in shortly.

(break to wait)

The show is YOUTS, sir. We have gone over the ground rules. Our folks know this call ison background, and we appreciate you joining us this evening from Iraq.

Dempsey: My pleasure.

Lawrence: General, if you'd like to kind of give an opening overv iew of the current statusof forces, what the successes your folks are seeing there, anything you'd like to discuss,then we can open it up for questions.

Dempsey: Yeah, I think I would. But I will keep it brief, because I would rather j ust fieldthe questions that they are interested in.

Firs t of all, hello to all or you. Most of you have been over here at one time or another. Iam ju st crossing my 21$1 month in Baghd ad, 14 the first time and seven now. So I' ve gota bit of a, it seems to me, a historic al perspective on this who le thing.

And what I would say in general term s in that regard is that although the generation ofthe combat forces, the more than 100 battalions of Army and poli ce battalions that are outthere get most of the notoriety. the - it seems to me that the - an equally important storyis the institutions that are being built above it, that is to say the Ministry of Defense andMinistry of Interior, as we ll as the - kind of the foundati on of the whole thing which is aneducation system, an lraqi training and doctrine command that includes 18 institutes,academies, colleges and trai ning centers so that this force we are building will be twothings principally - three really. One is capable, clearly. But the other two are one that isan institution from top to bottom , from foot soldier to minister, and even more importantthan that an institution ofnational unity, that is, a cohesive force inside the country at atime when they clearly need some cohes ive forces working on their behalf. And I thinkthere ' s been some reasons to believe that that endeavor and that entire enterprise ismoving in that direct ion.

And with that, I will say only one other thing, and that is I know nothing, literally, aboutOperation Swanner, so if you will stay clear of that, I would be happy to answer yourquestions.

Q: General, this is l eff McCausland. Good to talk to you agaio. Co uld you talk a little bitabou t that national unity function? Of course, there 's been various reports after thebombing of the Golden Mosque (22 February in Samarra). And in genera l, the ones Ihave read seem to be summarized by saying the Iraqi security forces, the army,performed quite well; in fact, they deployed rapidly and were a settling influence,however, that the police forces were somewhat mixed resu lts in terms of that whole beingcohesive, being identified as a unifying force, et cetera.

Could you talk a little about those events, and those two different parts of the securityforce?

Dempsey: Sure . In general terms, I would say that the anny and the national police - andthe national police, by the way, used to be called when you were here last time the specialpoli ce - and consis t of the commando division and the public order division, thosenational forces , we have more visibility on them than we do the local police, but perform ed very well. They were very deliberate; they were poised. I would describe theiractivities as a settling - clearly a settling influence on what was essentia lly a veryemot ionally charged atmosphere.

There were reports of certain units that chose not to confront armed militia, and therewere some armed militi a activities that cropped up, notably the (Muqtada Sadr' s) Jaysh alMahdi in and around Sadr City . But frankl y, they didn 't have much political top cover todo so. In other words, there was a conscious decision taken at the national level not toexacerbate the problem by handling two problems at once, you know, you've got theemotionally charged atmosphere of the mosque and the religious undertones of that andthe decision was made not to confront militias, but rather ensure that they were not actingin criminal ways. So, for example, there were a couple of mosques that were taken overby militi as - the militia of course claimed - and it may be true -- that they took them overin order to protect them - but when the legitimate force s went and said, okay, we got itnow , they -- in every case -- they dispersed.

There were oth er reports about armed groups moving through the streets, you kno w,shooting their rifles in the air and things that over here are somewhat common place, Idon't want to diminish that, but in every case, again, the legitimate security forces had aleveling effect on all that and kind of channeled all this excess energy.

Now we 're still in the - this is all very recent, so we 're stilt in the process at some levelof accumulating our lessons leamed. And there were a couple of instan ces where localpol ice in parti cular, I am not talking about the national police or the national army, butthe local police may have, you know, turn ed a blind eye to some things. But frankly, Isaw this as a wa tershed moment for the Iraqi Security Forces, and they not only passedthe challenge but did so very well .

Q: Genera l, Jed Babbin. Thanks again for hosting us when we were over there inDecember. What can you tell us about the militias infiltrating the "legitimate forces andwe hear all sorts of goofy reports about peopl e coming in and sectarian violence comingout of some of these forces.

Demp sey: First of all, let me go from the latter part of your question to the form er. Makeno mistake about it, there are intelligence report s on a frequ ent basis that cause us to beconcerned about the activities of pieces of the legitimate security forces, never an entireunit, but rather an individual or two or three or 10, maybe, inside of a legitimate unit.And we've got a system in place with our Iraqi counterparts to investigate those. And wehave on, [don 't know , in the last six month s or so, we 've had the occas ion to changecommanders of battaJions in both the army and the national police - again, thecommandos and publi c order.

We 've also changed a number of brigade commanders because there was enoughevidence they were not exerting the kind of control and discipline over their force theyneeded.

But again, thi s is probably two or three battalions out of 100 or so in the army, and onebrigade out of eight in the nation al police and two battalions out of 24 in the nationalpolice.

So, I mean, you know, it ' s significant, but not anythin g that would me to describe this asan endemic probl em.

Now, back to the issue of infiltration. This is one of my favorite words, naturally. Andit's hard for me to sign up for infiltration when we talk about the legitimate, that is to say,the governmental recognized militias - you know, the peshmerga, the Badr and sevenothers are identified in CPA order No. 91 as legitimate militias that must be over timedisarmed and/or assimilated into Iraqi society and even the Iraqi Security Forces.

So we clearly have had former Badr Corps, former peshmerga come in to the securityforces as individuals, intentionally. In fact, in some cases we 've taken input s and allowedthem to be recruited intentionally that way as part of an assimilation process. The key isnot to have them all in one place, and the second key is to have the leaders of units bediverse, and have the MiTT (Military Transition Team) teams that overwatch them besensitive to these kind of things and also the spec ial police transition teams as well.

Now there are other militi as, let' s even be less speci fic, and call them armed groups outthere that are more problematic. And I mentioned the Jaysh al Mahdi as one of them,because it 's not a recognized militia by the CPA order No. 91.

Secondly, many of the young men that tend to drift toward Jaysh al Mahdi areuneducated, almost universally unemployed, and as a result they can't even get into the

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legitimate security forces because the legitimate security forces have a recruiting standardand generally they can't pass it. So they pose a little bit different kind ofproblern.

But infi ltration is probab ly less precise than it ought to be, given that in some cases thesemen are actuaUy invited in.

Q: Hey Marty. Bob Scales, how are you doing?

Dempsey: Hi , Bob, good to hear from you.

Q: Listen, I am intrigued by your description of a building of an institutional part of thearmy. a sort ofTRADOC if you will. Are you actually building things like academies,staff colleges, war colleges , NCO academi es, things of that sort? And if so, is that yourmission or does that belong to somebody else? And I guess the last part is how is thatgoing?

Dempsey: It is my mission. It was actuall y - it all started on Dave 's (petraeus) watch,actu ally. The concept has kind of matured and in fact, in my other hat, which is theNATO commander in Iraq, that 's really in terms of officer education, that ' s their niche.

But, yeah, we 've graduated our first class from the Iraqi military academy at Rustamiyah78 new second lieutenants, none of whom had previous military experience. And that ' ssign ificant, because you know we' ve also brought in, as you kno w, former officers to fillthe ranks, and this was the first class - it graduated in Jan uary, that is young men whonever had any previo us military experience. So that' s the beginning, it seems to me, of anofficer development system, officer education system that will over time, you know,essentially replenish the ranks from start to finish.

And we ' re going to - we actually, it ' s another one of these national unity initiatives.There's three military academies in Iraq. One in Zakho , one in Qualachulon (?), they'reboth in Kurdistan, and one at Rustamiyah. And we 've got them linked together with acommon curriculum, a common program of instruction, common course length, theyshare instructors. And now they are each produ cing about 100 every nine months. Wherewe want to get them is to each produce about 300 because our analysis of the life-cycleneeds of the anny is that they ' ll need about 900 new lieutenants every year.

But that 's all in place. There' s a joint staff co llege equivalent to our Command andGeneral StafT College in place. It will graduate 50 juniorlevel they call it - that'd bemajors and lieutenant colonels and then this year, this is the pilot year, 37 of the seniors,which are essentially full co lonels and civ ilians, by the way, and that course wi ll doublein size next year as well.

There 's a war college - actually they are going to call it a national defense universi ty,that will open in September. And by the way, that ' s not unique on the anny side. On thepolice side we 've recently converted Baghd ad police co llege to the production ofofficers, and they've got a nine-month course - I'm sorry, they' ve got a six-month, a one-

year course, and they've got a three-year course . And all those are up and running and ifyou all come over here and want to visit them -- I think that this is what will essentiallycreate this enterprise that will endure over time.

Q: I am trying to get over there specifically just to bother you for a couple days so I cancome back and report all that. I really think the larger message needs to be made . It's notjust about producing battalions or producing soldiers and policemen, but it 's also aboutproducing infrastructure, and I think that' s a story that the American people need to hear.

Dempsey: Absolutely right . And, just to highlight - or reinfo rce that point, it' s reallywhat we focus on now. I mean the generation of units is really (in train?) and requiresvery little - and by the way, handed over in great measure. The platform instructors forall of these institutes, academies, training centers, used to be exclusively Coalition andnow it' s 70 percent Iraqi. And by the end of this year, we will have transitioned mostinstructor positions over to Iraqis and then we ' ll be in a mentoring and advising rolethere.

We've also sent 500 mid-grade officers out ofcountry as part of a NATO initiative to,you know, to the Marshall Center. And we had a kid graduate from Sandhurst whograduated with an award for the best foreign cadet. So, I mean, that's the institution sideof it. It' s not sexy, but it' s the most important thing we ' re doing.

Q: And a story that needs to be told.

Q: Hey, sir, Ken Allard. Actually I thiok we adopted the class at Rustami yah on our lasttrip over there ourselves. And we sure remember them very fondly.

Dempsey: Yeah, that' s right, I do.

Q: The thing that I am getting a lot ofquestions about from our correspondents -- by theway, they talk about the present level of violence is making it even tougher on them tocover the story than it otherwise would have been.

One ofthe things that is interesting to me, based on my own experience in Bosnia, iswhether or not you are seeing any signs of what amounts to a de facto ethnic cleansing?Because what happened over there was not so much that you had the death squadsmoving around , they were certainly present, probably in the same way that they are inIraq, but what was happening is that a lot of what was going on was simply peoplegetting out ofhann's way. Are you seeing any signs that that is going on, and ifso, whatare the institutions you 're building doing about that?

Dempsey: Yeah, one of the - well, a couple of ways to answer that, or a couple of aspectsto the answer. And that is most of the problems, this is no surprise, it 's a flash to theobvious, you know, it's where the fault lines exist. And the principal fault line exists inBaghdad, pure and simple. It's also the center of gravity politically and so forth.

So we haven't seen the kind of problems that you are talking abo ut any place else thanIraq with the exception of Baghdad. On e of General Casey's CC lR (commanders' criticalinformation requi rements) is d isplacement of civilians, for exactly the reason you talkabo ut. Are they bein g forced out, are they leaving?

By the way, the analysis of that is very complicated right now because we are right in themiddle of Arba'een. Ashura is, you know, their Good Friday essentially, and then 40 dayslater is the Arba ' een holiday and they - and many of them troop south, many of the Shi ' apilgrims, I should be more specific - troop south . And that 's go ing on at precisely thetime we are trying to figure out, you know, what 's truth and what's fiction about themovement of peop le.

There have been two - since the Samarra mosque incident - there' s been two reports offami lies on the move. One was I think - and again this is all on background, so pleasedon't use the exact number - one involved 200 fami lies and another one about the samenumber moving from Baghdad south . And the firs t report was absol utely determined tobe pilgrims. The second one we don 't have the answer yet; it could very well be that therewere peopl e that had moved out of southeast Baghdad to the so uth, to ge t away fromwhat they perce ived to be an unsecure situation.

As to what we ' re doing about it, thi s is really an operationa l answer to that question, butwe are really focused like a laser beam on Baghdad, because again, for all the reasons Imentioned . And General Casey as you know has brought up the - a piece of hisoperational reserve to thicken the ranks. It ' s also been, by the way, apretty good test oftheir abi lity to move and determi ne what timelines they would need to have to move.

We've brought three battalions of public order back from - they were forward deplo yedelsewhere, we brought them back into Baghdad . The Iraqi army has moved anothercouple battalions into Baghd ad.

So we' ve prob ably increased the force levels in Baghdad by about anywhere from 3,500to 4,000. Increased a number of patrols by between 150 and 200 a day. Kind of the issuenow is restoring public confidence, frankly, and that takes place by increased presence.And so all that ' s happening. And we're moni toring the kind of things you j ust talk edabout as part of our CC IR.

But to this point, we haven't seen those kind of disp lacements . What we have seen is kindof a bit of a back and forth, you know, there will be a Sunni atrocity and then there willbe a Shi'e atrocity and a Sunni atrocity. So the real trick here is to break the cycle, andwe are wo rking on that.

Q: Genera l, Bob Maginni s. Question regarding the defense ministry and the interio rministry and whether or not you are seeing indications that they are maturing eno ugh tobe able to oversee countrywide the types of functions that you j ust described.

Dempsey: Yeah, maturing -- the present participle applies. They are clearl y, they areclearly maturing. And we monitor - just like the tactical units have a - we call it atransitional read iness assessment. It' s a monthl y report card, if you will. We 've got onethat we, that we - where we evaluate ourselves, because we are not advisors over there,we ' re partners with them. And so on a monthl y basi s we determine what progress wehave made or have failed to make on 18 key functions in any ministry, and it's everythingfrom personal management with, you know, subtext of pay and promotion andretirement, all the way down to the inspector general function.

And we have - you know that I've got developmental responsibility for both ministries.And I've got right now about 70 soldiers and civilians in each ministry, and that numberis going to go up a bit here in the next month because we have made some ana lysis ofadditional needs. And we real ly want them to get off to a promising start in this first 100days of the new government. We are really focused on having them achieve somesuccesses in the first 100 days or so in the new government. And so we 're really, we 'vegot some programs we 've worked out with them to give them a few early wins if youwant to call it that.

So, now there are some processes though where we have made enormous strides, pay forexample . Promotion we're close, very close. And some that are just going to take longer.And the two that come inunediately to mind are procurement and contracting. You know,they come from a command-directed economy where pretty much if you needed it youasked for the money, if you got it, you spent it. There was no competitive bidding and nocompeting in the free market economy against other sectors of the economy.

But they are very much in a free market economy now. The y have to make their case to acouncil, and they' ve to do competitive bidding. This is their law, by the way, not ours their new law r should say. So that' s been a real eye opener for them, and that probably isgoing to take, you know, a couple of years , I think, to mature.

Q: General , just one follow-up . The pay you mentioned, you know, what have you doneto fix that?

Dempsey: Great question. Well, first of all, we've identi fied the problem. The problemwasn' t pay; it was easy to lump it in to the category ofpay. The problem was reallypersonal accountability, frankly. So, for example, if a commander up in Mosul didn 'thave proper accountability of his peop le and either numbers or in rankstructure and heplaced a demand on the system - and it 's still a manual system - and here came thepayroll (north?) and he got there and he didn't have enough money to pay, then it wassort ofl umped in in precisely as a pay problem. Well , it wasn't a pay problem, it was apersonal accountability problem . So that' s where we put our effort.

And we've got a couple of initiatives in place to build for them what we might call a littlepersonn el administration center in each battalion where as these soldiers go on leave, youknow, they 're basically on a zl-day on, seven-day olTcycle, they process in and out eachtime. And it' s beginning to give us a heck ora lot more clarit y on what's out there. And

as a result, I would venture to say - now this, ou r last month may have been an ano maly,I hope not, but the last month we had fewe r than 1,000 pay problems in an army of, youknow, that's just now at about at 106,000 . And those were corrected very quickly uponidentification.

The police is a little different. You know, they draw their pay and their support for localpolice from the provinces and then the national police are suppo rted from the center. So ,you know, we' re learning as we go with that, but we 've made some pretty significantstrides with that as well.

Q: General, this is l effMcCausland again. On the (inaudible) side, there' s been a lot offocus frankl y on the actual ministers, a Mr. (inaudible - sounds like he might meanSayan Jab er, interior minister) the minister of interior is one that (inaudible - is talkedabout?) an awful lot. I'll fully understand if you don 't want to want to comment at all.But I am curi ous about your thoughts at all , because obviously the guys at th e top aregoing to be key and essential on answering a lot of these question s, whether it'sinfiltration, whether it 's pay, (inaudible) et cetera .

Dempsey: You know ministers - in general terms - I don't want to comment about thempersonally because, you know, I mean, I have such a close relation ship to them itwouldn 't take too long to figure out where it came from.

But I will tell you in tell you in general terms, what this country needs in my view isministers who -- you know, we tend to say we need a government of national unity, andthat's a fact. No doubt about it. But you do need ministers in the key positions who havea strong poli tical backing. In other words, they've got to have a consti tuency so that asthey are buffeted by other influencers they' ve got some political backing. I mean, this is ademocracy now.

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Q: Sir, Ken Allard again. I was reall y impressed with some of the (inaudible - soundslike BUDS) that we saw, particularly with the overlapping surveillance systems. Havethose things been any real assi stance to you guys in dealing with the problem of the civi lviolence? Have those systems helped you guys at all react?

Dempsey: Yeah, I think so. Frankly, Pete Chiare lli would be better positioned to answerthat because he really has access to that all the time. But I do know that --

Q: WeU teU him that [ said hi and also that -

Dempsey: I will .

Q: And ['U ask him those embarrassing qu estions myself.

Dempsey: Yeah, yeah. No problem. But I will say that he has reported that some of thosethings have allowed - you know the who le issue in this part of the world, I am not justtalking about Baghdad or Iraq, but this part of the world is rumor genera lly trumps fact.And what these overlapping systems have allowed us to do in many cases is confirm orden y and tamp down things tha t oth erwise could rea lly spin out of control.

Lawrence: Any additional questions for the general?

Q: Well, thanks for what you' ve done, buddy. This is Bob Scales. You know, you'vedone a terrific job and all of us over here are really proud of you.

Dempsey: Well , thanks. That means a lot. And by the way though , it hasn 't escaped me. Iknow you're trying to get over here , but I notice you didn't try to get over here before St.Patrick ' s Day (laughter).

Q : Hel ' I am on a (six - inaudible) train tomorrow morni ng; I am going to O 'Houlihan 'son 57 Street, and I'll drink a beer (inaudible) I am going to march in the parade, Marty(laughter).

Dempsey: Are you really? That 's great.

Q: Take care, my friend.

Dempsey: Al l right, you all take care .

Q: Take care, sir.

Q: Thanks to you, general.

Q: Hey Dallas?

Lawrence: Yes, sir. Folks , just a quick reminder that was on background. Go ahead,co lonel.

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THE WHI TE HOUSE

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STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Earlier today I s poke wi th Don Rums f e l d about ongoing military operations in the GlobalWar on Terror. I rei tera ted my strong suppor t for his leadership during this his toric andchallenging time f o r our Nation .

The Department of Defense has bee n tasked with many difficult missions . Upon assumingo f fice, I asked Don to transform the largest department i n our government . Tha t k ind ofchange is hard , but our Nation must have a mi l i t a r y t ha t i s fully prepared to confront theda nge r ous threats o f t he 21s t Cen tury. Don and our military commanders have also beent a sked to take t he f ight t o t he e nemy abroad on multiple fronts.

I have seen first - hand how Don relies upon our mi l i t a r y commanders in the field and at thePentagon t o make decisions about how best to complete t hese missions. secretaryRumsfeld's ene r ge t i c a nd steady leadership is exactly what is needed a t t his criticalperiod . He ha s my full support and deepest appreciation .

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Earlier t oday I spoke with Don Rums fel d about ongoing milita ry op e rations in the GlobalWa r on Terror . I reite rated my strong suppor t for his l e ade r ship dur ing this hi s t oric andchallenging time for our Nat ion.

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Update on Iraqi Security Forces (via video t eleconfe r e nc e )

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Genera l Peter Pace, Cha irman of t he J oint Chiefs o f Staff

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Maj or Genera l Robert H. Scales , Jr.

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At t a ched is the transcri pt from this morning's conference cal l wi th Mr. PeterRodman and the military analysts regarding the 2006 China Mil i t a ry Report.

As yo u announced , t he call was on bac kground and the i nformation is emba r goed un til 1500Tuesday.

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Transcript:Peter Rodm an, Ass istant Secretary of Defense for International Security AffairsMonda Ma 22 2006Host OSD·Public AffairsOSD-Pub lic Affairs staff: LTC Brian MakaTrancriber: Mu hy (digita l)RoomTopic: 2006 China Mili tary ReportOn Background

~-:-_... ,We are going to go ahead and get started. , will just remind you quickly we are onbackground so you are free to quote a senior DoD official. All of the information that you get heretoday we ask that you embargo until 1500 tomorrow. So with that I am going to go ahead and rumit over to the ass istant secretary of defense, Peter Rodman.

Mr. Rodman: Good morning. Good morning and thank you for coming in, or tuning in, or whateverthe phrase is. I th ink you are familiar with the origins of this report. I'll just say a brief word aboutthat and then secondly, what we think som e of the highlights are . And I think we should try to get- we ll we don 't post , I guess we won't post the full text .

LTC Maka: Sir, it will be an active link on it tomorrow morning, or tomorrow aftemoon.

Mr. Rodman: Okay. But anyway, you know, this is a congress ional man date. We have done thisevery year for a number of years . And the Cong ress asks us a number of questions aboutChina's not only China's mili tary programs but its long-term strategy. So the report, as in pastyears, has a lot of discussion about the underlying factors in China 's mili tary policy and so itranges - you know, it isn't just nuts and bolts. It's about strategy, it's about economic factors, alittle bit about polit ical context, and so forth.

The - I wou ld mention before I get into this report a couple of important quotes in some otherreports. The president's National Security Strateg y Report in March had a very importantsentence in it about hedg ing . You may remember that sentence. (")Our strategy seeks toencourage China to make the right strategic choices for its people while we hedge against otherpossibilities.(") Tha t's from the president's National Security Strategy Report , and that pretty wellencapsulates what our stra tegy toward China is. We try to put a constructive - we try to shapedevelopments in a constructive direction but obviously, particularly in this department. our job isto watch closely what China is doing, and to be the one to be prepared to do what's necessary tocarry out our commitments in the Asia-Pacific region . And part of that task is 10watch closelywhat Chin a is doing.

The QDR (Quadrennial Defense Review) also had an important discussion abo ut China , and ittalked about China having the greatest potential to compete militarily with the U.S., and to fie lddisruptive mili tary tech nologies that could over time offset traditional U.S. military advantages .That's the QDR in February. You may have cop ies of that.

So that gets us into the subject here, wh ich is what China is doing. That's - I can now get intosome of the specific highlights . A lot of what's in the report is not new, because a lot of what we'retalking abou t has been a trend that we have spo tted in previous reports. But some of the thingsthat we highlighted in this report are China's stra tegic forces modernization.

We've mentioned this before , it's not brand new; but it's something that we are really com mentingon that I think we should call your attention to . There are at least 10 varieties of ballistic missilesdeployed or in development - at least 10 variet ies of ballistic missiles either deployed or be ingdeveloped. W e see qualitative improvements as well as quantitative improvements. So. youknow, the qualitati ve improvem ents include improved range, mobility and accuracy. You know,

ICBMs, for example, are the mosl advanced, they're solid fuel road mobile ICBMs that can reachthe United States.

Again , this is not new, but we're struck by the strength of these programs. Shorter range missilesopposite of Taiwan - they have continued to build about 100 new ones a year, and so the total isup, you know, close to 800. That again is not new, but it's just inexorably growing , that missileforce opposite Taiwan, about 100 a year.

We see very capable cruise missiles, land attack cruise missiles and anti-ship weapons. Again,it's not new, but we are, you know, calling attention to some of these developments and these aregiving the Chinese new options . Five submarine programs, five different submarine acqu isitionprograms.

Now what does this mean strategically? Well, we see a number of things. We see, as wement ioned last year, a lot of these things are - they go beyond Taiwan in their significance. It'sobv ious that much of China's military development is focused on a Taiwan contingency. But wesee both in their statements by some of their strategists and in some of their procure ment thatChina is beginning to develop - again, I emphasize beginning - to think in terms of it to developthe capabil ity to project power. They 're only at the beginning of it, but I think this seems to be partof their long-range intention . And this could relate to contingencies - for example related toresources or territorial disputes, of which there are many in the region.

So, aga in, this is worth noting . We have noted it before but it continues to be worth noting .

Another issue - well, another issue we've caned attention to before is about their use of nuclearweapons. There seems to be a debate going on about the no first-use doctrine. The Chinese saythat they're commitled to a doctrine of no first-use weapons , but we've seen a few straycomments by more than one strategic thinker calling this in to question. Now, they havereassured us, I repeat - when Secretary Rumsfeld was there, he was reassured by the Chinesethat they adhere to the no first-use doctrine , and we take them at their word. But they say there is- we see these occasional comments as an indication of a possible debate that is going onamong Chinese strateg ists and we think it is worth of note that there may be this debate going on.

But the issue gets to another big issue about transparency, which is how we often state ourconcern . China is a sovereign country, it has a right to build up its defense capabi lity as itchoose s, but the lack of transparency is dearly a concern for not only us, but China's neighbors.

Th is lack of transparency is reflected in a number of things; we talk in this report as in the pastabout the defense budget. We think their defense budget understates their real defense spendingby a factor of two or three. In other words, their real defense programs are we think two or threetimes what their declared defense budget is because of --probably because of differen taccounting methods, probably because a lot of things n they just do not include a lot of theirresearch and development, a lot of their foreign purchases, they just don't include in their defensebudget. But in any case the lack of transparency adds to the concern of China's neighbors.

Another aspect of this is a surprise factor. We mention in this report, as in the past , that everyonce in a while we encounter a new program of theirs Ihat we didn't know about. You know, anew submarine or some program that, you know, has reached a mature stage that we just didn 'tknow about. And that's a concern , obviousl y. And that is a continuing concern, and that ismentioned in this report.

Another problem is we worry about the dangers of miscalculation. 1mean it's - we don't want tooverestimate Chinese capability, we don't want to underestimate Chinese capability. And wedon't want them to make a misjUdgment, you know, to overestimate their capability. And so, youknow, one of our objectives of our military exchanges with China is to try to illuminate a little morewhat they're up to, get them to disclose more of what they are thinking. They publish a white

paper every couple of years, which is a step forward, but it's not anything like what we do. Imean , we have our QDR for example, as well as, you know, every year, SecDef goes andtestifies. We are incredibly transparent about our assumptions, our planning , our strategies, youknow, as well as the procurement that supports those.

And Taiwan, by the way, came up with a recent with a recent statement that their nationalsecurity strategy which - again , reflects the fact that it's a government accountable to alegislature and - but the Chinese have -- are only at the beginning of, you know, disclosing whattheir real thinking is, and that, as I say, is the problem .

We are concerned about the specifics of their build up, but as I said, the lack of transparencygives a whole new dimension to the problem .

I would ment ion just a couple - well, a couple of other nuggets in the report. There's a famousquotation from Deng Xiao Ping -- this is in previous reports -- it's called the 24-character strategy.And it's a maxim of his that goes back about 15 years but- it has been often quoted by seniorChinese strateg ists. And it's about - you may have seen it before, but I'll read it again. n Observecalmly, secure our position , cope with affair s calmly, hide our capacities and bide our time. Begood at maintaining a low profile , and never claim leadershlpf").

The phrase that strikes me of course is hide our capacities and bide our time. I think thisencapsula tes what China's strategy is - they're very patient, they know their weaknesses. Andour report, by the way, is very clear about China's weaknesses; we're not trying to portray themas 10 feet tall .

But the Chinese are - seem to be aware of their limitations, but they are patiently andsystematically bUilding up their options so that five years from now, 10 years from now, they willhave significant options that they don 't have now. And that the balance of forces may be shifting ifwe are not careful to be, you know, to respond in our own planning.

So I think the Chinese have a strateg y. They talk about comprehens ive national power . Youknow, there's a debate in the west - oh, are they focusing on economic development versusmilitary. Well, in a way they are doing all of the above. Clearly their economic growth is thefoundation of everything else and their defense budget - their declared defense budget is risingfaster than their GOP. They recently announced 14.7 increase in their defense budget. And that'sa lot more than their economic growth rate , and that also reflects a recent trend. So they aremodernizing their milita ry rapidly, systematically. It certainly lacks - there are a lot of things theycan't do. Their power projection capability is very, very limited right now. And aga in, we are veryaware of China's weaknesses and China's vulnerabilities. But they have a patient long-termstrategy and I think we have to recognize that.

Anywa y, let me stop there, and I am happy to answer some questions.

Q: Mr. Rodman , Jed Babbin, American Spectator.

Mr. Rodman : Jed, how are you?

Q: Well, not bad for a grumpy old guy. Hope you're well. The issue that pops into my head is thequestion of Taiwan's investment in their own defense. The last I heard the legis lative yuan (juan?Taiwanese legislature?) had turned down the appropriations for the 2001 arms package 50-someodd times. Is there any change in that or any change or modifi cation or spending?

Rodman: Well, you're absolutely right to raise that. We discuss that in this report, at least to somedegree it's clear that if it doesn 't get serious about national defense and the balance of forces it'sgoing to tilt even more radically. We had a - well, first of all the Chinese issued their - I mean the

Taiwanese issued their - the government issued its own national security report , which is a goodthing. And we hope that there 's a serious national debate beginning in Taiwan .

The government has committed itself to a three percent - a three percent of GOP by 2008. Inother words , whatever happens to the special budget - you know, whether it's done by specialbudget or just the regular defense budget, (Taiwanese) President Chen has said that they oughtto be spending three percent of GOP on defense. The mayor of Taiwan was in this country a fewweeks back and Mayor Ma, he's the mayor of Taipei. And we had a chance to talk to him aboutthis - you know the KMT (Kuomintang), the opposition party has to be serious about defense, Imean , we just indicated, you know, without taking any sides in their politics that the United Statesas a friend , you know, expects them to be carrying a significant load for their own self defense,and he said he agrees with that, and he said it's, you know, at some point as his party or hiscampaign , you know - as his campaign develops that he'll come out with his own defenseprogram. And we certainly emphasize what the American view is and as I say he may -- he gaveus some reassurance, and we just hope that will be reflected . You know they, you know, thereought to be a national consensus in Taiwan about facing up to the threat that they face . And we'llsee , we'll see how it unfolds, but at least we delivered the message - we deliver the message toboth sides, you know, to both parties or both the major parties whenever we get a chance .

L.. ..Gentlemen, any other questions for Mr. Rodman?

Q ; Well , if nobody else is going to jump in, let me jump back in.

Mr. Rodman: Please .

Q ; A couple of things that struck me in last year 's report. Again, their dedication to asymmetricweapons such as anti-satellite weapons, cyberwarfare and so forth .

Mr. Rodman ; Yes.

Q ; Is there any change in your assessment from last year or, and if so, what is it?

Mr. Rodman ; No - well, they're highlighted again , both of those things . So you're right, we don 'thave a concrete development to point to except they're among the developments that wehighlight. They're still working on those things.

I mean a lot of things -I mean the report is - every year a lot of it is not new, a lot of it iscumulative information, but as I say, there's a section that highlights what some of the newdevelopments are, at least the highlights that we think are worth pointing to, and those things cyberwarfare, anti-satellite, R&D, they're still in there .

Q ; Don't mean to just dominate the whole conversation, but in terms of Adm. Fallon's (PACOMcommander) visit a week or so ago, he was, I think doing what you suggest needs to be done,trying to leverage them into being a little bit more open . Is that having an effect, do you notice aneffect on the openness question?

Mr. Rodman ; Well we - it's incremental. When Secretary Rumsfeld was there in October, wevisited the 2nd artillery headquarters. And that was a bit of a breakthrough. And we had theircommand brief and they didn 't disclose a whole lot, but it was an interesting contact. And wehave now, we have invited - you know, that's their missile forces -- and we invited thecommander to visited STATCOM, to come to the U.S. as a guest of STRATCOM, and they haveaccepted that invitation . When Hu Jlntao was here they let us know.

So that 's an interesting contact. We want to continue - develop a dialogue with them aboutstrategic contact and so forth; you know, the no first use issue, or any other issue. So that's

useful. You know, we're always pressing to see new places, we're always making that point we're- you know, we're trying to invite interesting Chinese here.

Another focus is junior officers - educational exchanges. It's something that President Bush isparticularly interested in. And we think we're making some headway in some of these areas.Secretary Rumsfeld talks abou t, you know, dem ystifying each other . You know , we don't want toexaggerate this because, you know, there are some laws of geopolitics that aren't going to berepea led here, but it certainly helps if more Chinese younger officers get some exposure to usand vice versa . So we think we're making some headway in doing that since secretaryRumsfeld's trip there .

Q: Last quest ion for me then I'll shut up. There's - one of the things that I think came up in aprevious conversation we had was your statement, or words to the effect, that one of the principallessons of Mr. Rumsfeld's visit was that we could have . I th ink you said, very candid discuss ionswith the Chinese and it wouldn't blunt the relationship. Is that still true? And who is having veryfrank talks with these guys?

Mr. Rodm an: Well, the president raised a lot of these issues when he saw Hu Jintao. I am goingover there in early June for our defense consu ltative talks and we - these are high·level strateqicdiscussions and we talk about everyth ing. And , you know , I am not going to be inhibited aboutraising questions about things they do that are disturb ing.

But I think you are absolutely right, when Secretary Rumsfe ld was there in both his publicremarks and private remarks , you know, he listed th ings they are doing that are disturbing, andyou know, not in a lecturing way but in a very calm way, and, you know, they are perfectly able todeba te. But I think that is the right tone for a discussion.

Q: Thank you very much.

I-__...Gen tteme n, any other questions for the secretary?

Mr. Rodm an: Let me mention one other sma ll thing. It's not in the news right now. This is the EUarms embargo and we discuss this and this report as before. The Europeans have backed awayfrom, you know, the attempt to lift the ir arms embargo. Now, they haven 't killed this , but it hasn'thas not been a live issue for them, and we hope it won't be. We have not changed our positionthat we would strongly oppose it.

Simil iarly with Israel. We've had more successful discussions with the Irsraeli s to shut down theirarms trade with China . We think we've reached a good understanding with them. And then finall ywe 've put this on the agenda of our discussions with the Russians, who are the - of course, thebiggest source of weapons.

But the importance of the European embargo is that the Chinese , we expect, would seektechnology, dual-use technology in Europe, things they could not they cou ld not get from theRussians. And we are conv inced that the Chinese would exploit any opening very effectively and,you know, their technological development is their focu s, and we would, you know, not want theEuropeans to be contr ibuting to that.

But anyway, the good news there is the Europeans have - yeah , it's softwa re - I think what theywould get from the Europeans is not, you know, jet fighters but dua l-use technologies of differentkinds that wou ld help them qualitatively upgrade. But anyway, the good news is that theEuropeans have backed off. I mean, our president made a very strong - began a strongcampaign last year, and the Europeans seem to have backed away. But , anyway, we reiterate inthis report our strong fee lings on that matte r.

Anyth ing else?

t!!!:= :::JOkay. Gentlemen, thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate your time.

Q: Thank you very much.

,,::::;:=~. If you have follow-up questions, please don't hesitate to emai l me as always and we'llget some documents out to you over email.

Q: l et's have another one of these when Mr. Rodman gets back from his June trip.

Mr. Rodman : Okay.

...__... Okay, great. All right gentlemen, have a good day.

Q: Good bye.

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TranscriptConference call with military analystsThursday, June I, 2006Subject: HadithaHost: OSD-Public AffairsBriefers: Marine Brig. Gen . Kevin Sandkuhler, staffjudge advocate to the Commandant;Marine Col. Dave Lapan, deputy director of Mari ne Corps Public AffairsTranscriber: MurphyON BACKGROUND

Jones: Again, thanks for joining us this afternoon. This is obviously a hot topic and animportant one and we appreciate you taking time out.

I have with me Brigadier General Kevin Sandkuhler. He is the staffjudge advocate to thecommandant of the Marine Corps. And I also have Colonel Dave Lapan with me who isBrigadier General (Mary) Krusa-Dossin's PAO. So he 'll be also able to speak to you onthe subject.

This call is on background, so as always, we ask that you only quote senior DoD officialswith the information that you receive on this call. So with that, I am going to go aheadand hand it over to the general and the colonel , so they will make brief opening remarksand then we 're, you kno w, free to take questions.

Lapan: Gents , thank you again. Dave Lapan here. Again, I am the deputy director ofpublic affai rs for the Marine Corps. We do appreciate you taking the time. Hopefully wecan give you some information that will be of use to you, as I am sure you are beingpressed - mayb e not as much as we have - but certainly enough to comment on thissituation.

As you all recognize, we are in a pretty tenuous situation here, with an ongoinginvestigation which constrains us from what we are able to say. We are certainl y helpedby those of you who have an understanding of the system and aren't on active duty. Youhave a litt le bit more freedom to talk about things, so we're hoping that we can give youinformation that' s useful in allowing you to do those things when you are asked tocomment.

I guess , just as a - I'll do a quick background on the situation just in case anybody isn 'tcompletely up to speed. Incidents of 19 November 2005 in Haditha in western Iraq. Atthe time it was Two Marine Expeditionary Force, which had command of that area ofoperations in Anbar Province. The third battalion, 1st Marines, which is normally part ofthe Fi rst Marine Division , was attached to 2 MEF for those operations. Three-one, I'll usethe shorthand - is back in the U.S. now, has redeployed to their hom e base at CampPendleton . If there is from the investigati ons that are ongoing any type of follo w-up legalaction it is likely to be handled at Camp Pendleton because aga in that 's where the unitthat is involved is based currently.

As you may all may know alread y, Time Magaz ine is the ones who kind ofbrought thisto the mil itary that started at first an initial inquiry by Multi -National Corps - Iraq . Theyfound enough there to convene a second AR 15-6 investigation, which is headed by MajorGeneral (Eldon) BargewelI , which is ongoing at th is point. And Major General (RichardC.) Zi lmer, who is the current commander of Multi-National Force - West convened a -Naval Criminallnvestigative Service investi gation. So those are the two on goinginvestigations -- the AR15-6 and the NCIS investi gation.

I am sure you have been asked, as we have, about when those are going to wrap up. Wedon't know. It is certainly not expected to be imminent, despite repo rts that you see.Again, can 't put a time frame on it, and General Sandkuhler can probably talk more aboutwhy it 's so difficult to kind of nail down how long investigations take and he ' ll talkprocess stuff.

So hopefully that brin gs you all up to speed. If I have repeated or said anything that youare already aware of I apologize, but I just wanted to make sure we are starting on a levelplaying field . I'll let General Sandkuhler now talk about some of the legal issuesassociated wi th where we are today.

Sandkuh ler: Good afternoon, Kevin Sandkuhler here. I am the staffjudge advocate to thecommandant of the Marine Corps , the senior military lawyer to the Marine Corps.

One of the reasons we took this opportunity to talk with you gentlemen is to reiteratesome things which I think you all probabl y know, but to make the points concerning whatit is we can and cannot say at this time as these investigations are being completed.

First of all, with the pending investigation - the old statement that you don 't know whatyou don 't know. The investigators are out there gleaning facts eac h and every day, andyou don't know what they have uncovered each and every day, so whatever you saycould probabl y be wrong about the investigation or the status of the investigation, andyou don 't want to interfere with their processes.

But the other thing that really constra ins us that I was asked to discuss is, you know, thetop ic of unlawful command influence. Most of you are aware of it. Most of you especially General Scales and General Shepperd - have probably had SlAs tell you aboutthis in the past. But it becomes critical now for us to make sure that we do not doanything or say anything that will prejudice our abil ity to brin g whatever charges orwhatever wrongdoing is uncovered in the investigations to the prop er level or the properforum for accountab ility.

We have to - and that puts us in the bad position, if you will, with the media of not be ingable to tell them all that they want to know or confirm items that they find from othersources that they wanted to talk about that perhaps in other settings local district attorneyswould be more than happy to talk about -- but their system doesn't have the samefeatures that OUTS does .

So I wanted to stress the topic of unlawful command influence and why there isfrustration - there is frustration on our part as to what we can and canno t talk about.

So 1will leave it at that and let ' s see if you gentlemen have questions and items that wecould address for you.

Q: Yeah, this is Bob Scales real qu ick. I - this is a little short-fused but I am supposed to- I have written an essay, if you will, on the subject, which I am supposed to talk aboutand record this afternoon. I wonder if I might just send it to you just for a truth check, ifthat's okay.

Lapan: Yes, sir. Dave Lapan here. My email address - and all of you fee l free to emailme if you need to - is David dot Lapan . That's I, a, p as in papa, a, n as in November, atUSMC dot mil.

Q: Well thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Q : Don Shepperd . Process question here . The AR 15-6 and the naval criminalinvestigation are two separate investigations. What happens to the AR 15-6 report if itgoes to -- when the facts are found, who does it go to? And who decides whether or not toprefer charges? And is that - is that decision to prefer charges or not independent of theNCIS? In other wo rds, if they dec ided not to, could NC IS also go ahead and prefercharges?

Sandkuhl er: Kevin Sandkuhler here. NelS does not prefer charges. A conveningauthori ty would have to prefer charges. The AR1 5-6 is an administrative investigationthat is looking the two topics that you have heard about before - the training and thereporting (report?). Those are the two items they are looking at. That is an adm inistrativeinvestigation, and they will produce their findin gs and that is go ing to General Chiarelliin Iraq and Casey-- Genera l Casey had him do that. And 1think the flow will be Chiarellito Casey to us - to the Marine component, and perhaps, back through Abi zaid as well. Upand down the chain of command.

NC IS investigation was convened by General Zilmer, the Multi-Nationa l Force-Westcommander, but he is in the operational chain of command as well. We expect thatinvestigation to flow up the same chain ofcommand. We expect those cases, thosefindings, to come back to the Marine Corps, to the Marine Component at least, which isMarine Forces Central Command, for us to take action.

That's how the processing of those investigations should follow . There will be - therecould be the preferal (sp) ofcharges by the Marine COI]>S based upon the 15-6, but if theyfind some other criminal conduct we could go back to NClS and say investigate furtheron another avenue of inquiry.

Q: So Marine Corps Central Command will be the one to decide after it goes through thechain of command and the recommendations decide whether to prefer charges is what Ihear you saying?

Sandkuhler: I think that's what the process worked out by the commanders has been. It ' san operationa l chain of command issue and that's how I believe it's going to work out.

Q: What's the name that goes with that?

Sandkuhler: Sattler. You all know John (LtGen John Sattler), right?

Q: Yes. Absolutely.

Sandkuhler: I think John is the one on this situation who has been tagged, with theconcurrence of General Abizaid and others, that that's how it's going to work.

Q: This is Je ff McCausland. I understand that - if I have got this - that the 15-6 with thetraining and (inaudible) reporting. Can you comment at all on - apparently there havebeen reports that the battalion comman der was relieved. Can you comment on that? Andcan you also comment as far as the Navy criminal investigation just in terms of howmany Marines are at least subject to the investigation, or does that go too far?

Sandkuhler: Well, on the commander of the battalion - 3rd battalion, 1st Marines, wasrelieved by the commanding general of 1st Marine Division. And it was done for thetrad itional stated reason of loss of confidence. I cannot tell you, and the commander doesnot have to explain to us, if there was something more - (were they involved?) the eventthat's the subject of all the media attention now, or whether there are other actions? Youknow, there could have been failures of inspections. There could have been a higherdisciplinary rate than other commands. I don't know other than the commander of the 1st

Marine Division lost confidence in the ability of that lieutenant colonel to command thatbattalion. And I think that's what we have reported before.

Now the second question about -

Q: How many Marines, at least in raw numbers, are the subject of the Navy criminalinvestigation?

Sandkuhler: Now, I don't - I don 't think I know an exact number so I hesitate to give youa number.

Q: Okay.

Sandkuh ler: They are talking to a number ofpeop le. They have been interviewing anynumber of individuals, and some of those individuals they may interview you for onepurpose, but then find out that perhaps there is some other reason they had to talk withthem further, or they might have done something else wrong that may have nothing to do

with this. So I would be very hesitant to throw out a number, because I am prettyconfident I would be wrong.

Lapan : And just to jump on again, on the first part of the question, the battalioncommander of3-1 was relieved, as were two of the company commanders within thatorganization as well. And as the general said, the relief was done by the commandinggeneral of the 1st Marine Division because the unit was back at Camp Pendleton at thattime and so 3-1 feU under the 151 Marine Division because they were back in the States,and they weren't forward when these reliefs took place.

Sandkuhler: And to reinforce that, the general did that, General Natonski and that ' s beenreported before, he could have figured out stuff or seen stuff upon their return from Iraqthat was enough for him to decide to relieve him, and I have - you know, I would not tellyou and I do not know his mental calculations he went through before he did that.

It could have been any number of events that led him to that conclusion, and I don 't thinkit is centered on this investigation because this investigation - or the investigationsrelating to (Haditha?) have not been completed yet.

Q:Ok.

Q: Gents, Jed Babbin, Two questions. Number one, can you tell us ifIGl (sp) wasbrought back early becau se of the suspicion of these events and number two, can you alsotell us going back to the command influence point, how strongly you guys have beencounseling both the military and civilian leadership to basically clam up so we don 'tscrew up the prosecution?

Lapan : Dave Lapan here. On the first part, no, 3-1 rotated back on their normal schedule;they were not brought back early. An aside to that, the other incident that has beenrecently discussed involves 3«1 battalion, 5th Marines. That unit still is in country, andmembers of that unit have been returned to the United States pending the investigationinto those allegations.

So in the case of 3-1, the Haditha incident, they were not brought back to the States early.But 3«1 battalion, 5th Marine, separate inc ident - Hamandiyah - that just happened morerecently, some of those individual s have been returned to the States early pending theinvestigation.

Sandkuhler: On the unlawfu l command influence issue, what we have done is you haveprobably all seen the press release done by the commandant. That includes - you know,that was carefull y crafted by us, if you read those words, and I know General (inaudible,sounds like reid?) has read those words carefully, to take it above, and keep it above anyclaim where we are trying to influence the course of the investigation , or influence thediscretion that subordinate commanders will have to exercise in the course of anyinvestigation, any court martial that mayor may not result, or any administrative action.

As you all know, there are a variety ofpeople who will now have roles to play, frommembers of court marti als, judges, lawyers who make decisions as to what the chargesshould or should not be, and the convening authorit ies.

We could have people who get charged for some not obvious offense by some othersubordinate commander that we can 't predict today. So we are trying to put out the wordto the Marine Corps, through the commandant's words, and other things Jdo through theSJA channe ls, to make sure everybody keeps it at the right level so we retain our abili tyto use the mil itary justice system for the purpose for which it was intended - to providegood order and discipline for the force, and to hold peop le accountable when necessary.So that ' s what we 're working on, Jed.

Q: That's great. Hey, appreciate that. One quick follow up. Have the Iraqis squawked atall about bringing any of these guys back, early or late?

Sandkuhler: This is Kevin Sandkuhler. I have no idea. I haven't heard.

Q: On that, two quick follow-ups. Oneili~sj.lr.1(0,r those who have not - at least I haven' t seenthis press release by the commandant could you possibly have that sent out to us?That'd be grea t.

L.._..Yeah, absolutely.

Lapan: I can get it to you. And I will also - well, I will get it to Tara and let her pass it toyou. The other thing, too, is those of you who read Tom Ricks's story this morningprobably saw reference to some other guidance we put out on this very subject, again , tomake sure that anybody who - anybody out there who was being approached on the issueof Haditha knew where the out-or-bounds lines were and why. I can get you some of thatguidance, as well .

Q: That'd be grea t. (inaudible) couple ofTV spots. Second question is, what Jed just said.The Iraqis have announced that they are going to do their own investigation, and maybeit's too soon to comment on that. But will there be any coordination between what we ' redoing, NCIS in particular, wi th the Iraqis, or do you guys see that as being totally out ofbounds?

Lapan : Don't know at this point. We have not heard anything along those lines.Obviously we have seen the comments coming out of the Iraqi government, but it hasn 'ttranslated into any action at our point at this ju ncture.

Q: This is Bob Maginni s. Question on press release that came out earlier today, I thinkout of Iraq, out of the Corps. Is this being typified as a trainin g stand down? Or, I saw thecommandant 's message a couple days ago. What exactly is he doing in country? Whatare the messages he ' s sending? Can you go over that agai n, j ust for clarifi cation?

Lapan: Sure. Two separate things, obviously. The commandant had a trip previouslyscheduled in which he was going to be visi ting Iraq. It was not a trip that was put togetherfor this purpose, but since he was going, he wanted to talk to his Marines.

The things that he talked to the Marines about were the importance of our core (Corps?)values - honor, courage and commitment, talking about do ing the right thing. Also,making the point that the vast majority ofMarines are doing the right thing - day in, dayout, under very chalJenging circ umstances both in combat and out of combat.

Wanted to get the message to them that eve n though there has been a lot of attention paidto this incident and these allegations that he believes that most Marines - that this is anaberration, that most Marines are doing the right thing. He wanted to reinforce that. Buthe also wanted to talk about the importance ofdoing the right thing, of having moralcourage, of adhering to our core (Corps?) values again. Those are some of the things thathe wanted to talk about. It was not intended to be a training in the way that this MNC-Jannouncement came out, done separately by General Chiarelli for whatever reasons.

J don't have any indications here that there would be any kind of tra ining stand down.Obviously those guys across the battlefield are busy, and they can't afford to haveeverybody stop what they are do ing but I think - and again I am talking a little bit out ofschoo l because it's an MNC-I issue, but I don't get the sense it's a stand down as much asmaking sure that commanders are rein forcing those tra ining aspects on some type ofschedule.

Q: As a folJow up, perhaps or someone in OSD can clarify whether the Corps haspu t out something that is in fact - I am hea ring through other people is being interpretedas a training stand down, and that 's why I wanted some clarification.

A follow up question about this particular battalion, 3-1. Wasn 't this their third tour, andwere the people we are talking about that are being investigated, were they on their thirdtour with this battalion?

Lapan: The battalion itself, it was their third time back, but remember, the people in thebatta lion change out all the time, so it's not as if the enti rety of the battalion was there forthe third time, you would have variations throughout the ranks. In fact, I am sure they hadpeople that were on their first tour at this time.

The second part of the question was - oh, whether the individuals that were invo lved do n't know to that level of detail in terms of if it was this person ' s first time or third time.Again, as General Sandkuhler said, it's a pretty wide net. It'd be tough to decide who itwas that is considered, you know, part of the investigation.

Q: Thank you.

Q: Don Sheppard. I got hit with a question on radio the other day about - it had beenreported that $2,500 payments were made by the Marine Corps to some of the familiesinvolved, and it was not the normal policy to pay reparations in the field.

I am not sure this is your area, but do you know anything about that?

Sandkuhler: Well J think, one thing is that we call it salatia payments and they're done alot in Iraq. They are done in other parts of the world, as well. And what they are is - andthey range from things like when we have automobile accidents, when we damageproperty through either operational damage or through other damage; you know, our bigtrucks run into buildings on a regular basis, or run into Iraqi cars, and we offer themcompensation for the damage that they suffered. And in this case, there was some salatiapayments done to the families - or paid to the families, and I would not classify it asbeing unusual.

Lapan : The other important aspect is that salatia payments are not an admissio n of guilt,either . Again, they are a way to recompense individuals, families, whatever, for damagesofone type or another. Again J know - in fact, to take it to the lowest level, when J was inHaiti two and a half years ago, we were paying people for breaking locks off their doorswhen we doing searches. I mean, it goes from the very small level to the very large level.

Q: This is Jeff McCausland again. Can you guys comment at all about this one youngMarine, I think he is still on active duty out in California, apparently he has released abunch of photographs. His mother has been on TV. He claims he was part of the quoteunquote clean-up crew, but also has gone on to make allegations about the fact that - orhis mother has at least - that the Marine Corps has not addressed this kid' s PTSD and allthe problems associated with this Haditha thing. Have you got any comment on that aswell?

Lapan : The Marine in que stion did do an interview with the Los Angel es Times. He hassince stopped doing interviews, from what I understand, of his own volition - nobodytold him - again, as far as I understand nobod y told him not to. But his mother is carryingthe case. She has done a number of interviews. Again, her focus has been more on thePTSD issue and she has talked somewhat about what her son told her he saw andexperienced.

Sandkuhler: He' s also been accused of a variety of crimes in the local community there,which is reported in that article from the LA Times. I don 't think we 've seen anythingofficial or unoffici al about his claims of PTSD and whether he' s being treated and stu.ff in(and?) that. We have not explored that yet.

Q: Bob Maginnis again. The LA Times today, a town awoke to slaughter. Very detailed .Were these two reporters on the ground, or are they basing what they are saying in hereon second and tertiary sources?

Lapan : Well the - and I am just going offrnemory from reading the story this morningbecause I think that it mentioned that they wouldn't reveal the name ofthe reporter forsecurity reasons, one who may have gone into Haditha to conduct the interviews, but alsobelieve that they conducted interviews with individuals, so variou s levels ofsourcing interms ofpeop le who may have seen what happened, may have been involved, or mayhave heard from others - so it could have been second- or third-hand infonnation. Ididn 't get the indication that the reporters were there when any of this happened, but thenwent back afterwards to talk to the townspeople. Does that - does that help at all?

Q: Yeah, it is littered with quotes that are very incendiary, so I am just curious as to thesourcing, so if that's what you have, that' s what you have.

Q: Jed Babbin again, guys. In terms of the Congress, we 're hearing that Senator Warnermight want to have hearings or something, I mean, what requirements or what requestsare these help ful folks levying on you these days?

Sandkuhler: Kevin SandkuWer. We have - I am not aware o f having received any officialrequest for information or documents or people to testify, et cetera, yet. They have allsaid that, you know, we are going to have hearings on this some time. We have notgotten, as you characterize it, the helpful requests so that they can help clari fy the issuesfor us.

It does raise Jed, as you know, a significant number of legal issues. Are they going tosubpoena witnesses? Are these witnesses going to be peop le that will have to get somelevel of immunization to testify at the Congress? How does it impact cases in the future ifthere are cases? Evidence, other information. It does not make life simpler.

Q: It ' s preci sely the kind of help you rea lly don' t need.

Sandkuhler: From the legal standpoint, I wou ld love for everybody to keep their mouthsshut so we can get the investigations done so people will keep talking to us, so we can getall the evidence gathered without having any taints and peop le running and hiding withinform ation when they find out, you know, their name is going to be plastered all over themedia, and get that all conc luded so we could proceed in an orderly fashion without thehelpful peop le from other sources.

So the Congress - that will be problematic, as you can imagine. And just go back to theprior history - you know, the last, I don 't - go back 30 years, 25 years, 20 years - thinkof all the prob lems when they wanted to have Ollie North before the criminalinvestigation was don e, and how that impacted the ability to prosecute and defend, etcetera.

Q: Thanks.

Lapan: One other note on the congressional piece, too. As I am sure you are aware, thecommandant did go over to the Hill , again not on specific request, but in order to keep

the leadership apprised of what was going on in these cases and his legislative directorfollowed him and did some briefing as well.

Q: The nature of the enemy that was being fought on November the 19th in Haditha, werethey characterized in the immediate after action as just Sunni insurgents, or were thereevidence of foreign j ihadists that were embedded and perhaps were even using children,women as shields?

Lapan: Don' ( know the answer to that one. That may be something that comes out in thecourse of the investigation, but I do not know. I was there at the time in terms of - in Iraq- we felt, in our intelligence, you know, verified that the foreign fighter influenceinfluence, I should - the numbers of fore ign fighters in western Iraq was pretty small.Obviously they had a big influence. But most of the guys we were fighting in westernIraq were local Sunni insurgents.

Q: Okay.

L.._.IAll right gentlemen, any other questions?

Q: Yeah, I just sent that emai l to you David. Could you just read that over and make sureit's okay?

Lapan : Will do, sir.

Q: are you going to follow up with the Corps to find out if they sent out somethingon a training stand down, because I am confused by what is on the web page.

L.._J Yeah, no, we ' ll get that to you.

Sandkuhler(?) : I don 't think they have used the term stand down. I am looking at thepress release, and they just talked about a training, commander direct training.

Q: They even said one report I got (inaudible - that it?) would be conducted over the next30 days.

Voice (?): Right , that' s what it says in here.

Q: anything you can get on that, I' ve got to go on two TV programs here, thatwould be great, as well as that press release by the commandant of the Marine Corps.

........1 Sure.

Lapan: And, Dave Lapan again. Just one last point I'd like to make, and I think GeneralSandkuhler will probab ly jump on. As you can imagine, we have received a lot ofrequests from media to get the commandant out there to talk, to do interviews, to havemedia tag along as he goes and talks to Marines. Obviously, lots ofconcerns with that on

a number of leve ls, not the least of which is, again, perceptions of unlawful commandinfluence. So we are getting a lot of pressure, but the commandant's talks to his Marinesare intended to be that, for him to talk to his Marines.

Again, we do not want to put the commandant in a position based on, you kno w, themedia' s desire to get him to talk that's going to pollute the system. So, while be isobvious ly concerned. he has serious concerns with these allegations, he is not in aposition to address them whi le there are ongo ing investigations. Sir?

Sandkuhler : I would j ust reinforce, you know, the statement that he has made on Marinevirtue is the kind of statement that you would expect the senior Marine, our leader, to talkabo ut with Marines when there's investigations pending, to talk about bow we expecteach of us to behave, and at what level to behave, and how we can comport ourselves tocomply with our honor, co urage and commitment. And that' s the kind of things he needsto go out and reinforce.

Talking to specifics to all of the Marines in the Marine Corps doesn't do any good. That'snot what he needs to reinforce. He needs to reinforce the basic virtue. So that's what he isgoing when he goes out; he is talking to his Marines about how we expect Marines tobehave, whetber it is on liberty, on duty, on the battle field or off the battlefield.

Q: Co uld you say again the exact title of AR 15-6 investigation, what do you call it in theMarine Corps?

Sandkuhler: Well, in the Marine Corps terms we'd call it like a JAG manualinvestigation. And that the 15-6 agai n is - the Army guys can tell you this - is AR15-6that refers to the regu lation that guid es it. It's an administrat ive investigation thatcommanders can use for a variety of reasons - to find out why their supply system islosing gear, to find out why peop le are getting in trouble in town - they can use it for anynumber o f reasons. In this case it 's to look at why the reporting was not acc urate, andalso was the level of training of the Marines involved prior to the event sufficient? Andthose are characterized as administra tive investigations. And then if they find the criminalinvestigation - criminal matters that they think exists, then they can tum it over to NClS,or the commander can take some admi nistrat ive and disciplinary action based up on thatinvestigat ion.

Q: This is Jeff McCausland aga in. Sadly, I don't think this is going to go away any timesoon -- I sure hope to God it does -- but it might be useful Dave, and Genera lSandkuhler, if you can have send us some co ntact info in addition to Dave 's emailaddress and you all ' s offices in case we need to make a quick check on the legal side oron the public affairs side as this thing goes on for however long it goes on.

I-o::-~ Yeah, I am happy to do that. All right gentlemen, thanks again for joining us, and Iwill send - and I will be sending out stuff this afternoon. Keep us posted for media thatyou do on this.

Q: Yeah, I'll be on O'Reilly tonight Tara.

Q: CNN in themorning.L..-..I

.......... Okay, great.

Q: Thanks very much guys.

1-_'" Let us know i f we can do anything else for you.

Q: Bye.

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MilitaryAnalystCallWednesday, July 19, 2006Briefer: U.S.Anny Brig. Gen. Michael Barbero, DeputyDirectorfor Regional Operations, JointChiefsof Staff, J-3Topic: E . n of U.S. citizens fromLebanonLocation The PentagonON BACKGROUND - quote as senior DoD officialHost: OSDPATranscriber. Murphy

I-....I(introductlonof the general). Again thiscall is on background, so you may quotea seniorDoDofficial. Sowith that, General Barbero.

Barbero:This isMike Barbero, and I know a few ofyou ,so thoseofyou who know me please don'thold thatagainst me.

Let me just tell you where we are as far as contracted shipping. Navy ships are going to be in thearea; I can discussthe command and control arrangementsand then some of the messages thatI just came froma pressconference at the State Department to try toshoot back at thiswhy are weso slow, the delay, et cetera.

Let me talkabout contract shipping.A contracted ship, the Orient Queen- I think you sawit on thenews, departed Beirut approximatelynine o'clock eastem daylight time this moming. Inour count,over 1,000 American citizens.

We think itwill take 24 hours for that ship to makea round trip - download inCyprus, back- toarrive back dockside in Beirut. And this is the maiden voyage, so we'll seehow that works.

Hopefullywe can make one trip every24 hoursof a thousand passengers.

We have - Transportation Command has been aclive since thestart, and theyare the ones doingthe chartering insupport of State Department, and theyhavechartered two other commercial ships- the motor ferry Rahmah - spelled R-A-H-M-A-H, a Panamanian flag ship, capacityof about 1,000passengers , and it should commence operationsoutof Beirut on the21" .

Right nowit's being - it's reached - and the question is why is it taking so long?Well, we'reconducting safetyand readiness forsea inspections, then it must transit theSuez Canal.

And the third shipwe have under contract is ahigh speed vessel - the Vittoria - V-I-T-T-O-R-I-A,an Italian flag ship, capacityof 330 passengers, and it again is also being inspected and we think itwill commence operations on the 22"' .

And whatsome mayviewand describe as delays Idescribe as making sure we are puttingourAmerican citizens- evacuating themsafely00 ships thatwe have inspected andare confident thatcan evacuate them safely.

And as you know, we have been using CH-53 helicopters since Sundayto centinuously move U.S.citizens from the embassy cempound.

We have six CH-53 helicopters that have been doing that today. Three of them are CH's, CH-53cargo helicepters from the 24" MEU, and three are MH-53s from forces - U.S. forces based in theUnited Kingdom.

Navy ships that we have either on site oron the way. USS Nashville will begin operations tomorrowand we think we can handle 1,000 American citizens per day and they'll either - it's an amphiband they'll either transport the citizens from Beirut using their landing craft - I think that's the mostlikelyway they'll do that - although I don't know, I've answered that by saying the local cemmanderon the scene will make that assessment. But theycan handle 1,000 acitizens adaystartingtomorrow.

We also have two DOGs - guided missile destroyers - USS Gonzalez and the USS BarTY, AneighBurke class. And they are there for escert, primarily, and search and rescue. And they will beescerting these cemmercial earners back and forth.

And then the fourth ship that's on the way - oron station is the USSMount Whitney, which isacemmand-and-ccntrol ship, and Brigadier General Jensen could move his cemmand post to thissh ip; it isset up with a full suite ofcemmandand central systems.

And we have five more ships that we are heading towards and will enter the joint operational areawithin the upccming days.

We'veestablished ajoint operational area, basically encempassing Cyprus to Lebanon, and as youknow, Lebanon isthe responsibility ofCentral Command, that's why they were given thismission.They have further - the chain ofcemmand goes to NAVCENT, and he has delegated BrigadierGeneral Jensen, United States Marine Corps, as the on-the-scene cemmander.

Israel is in -- under the UCP the responsibilityof the European Command, so European Commandiscenducting ccordinationwith Israel to facilitate our passage through the blockade.

Let's see. The themes I've been telling -I've been passing to people asthey.ask the questions oftimeliness is- we have - we are in support of Department of State, and as soon as we had adraftrequest from Department ofState, westarted toplan itand ccordinate with CENTCOMorEUCOMtostartmoving assets.

And we have assets from European Command that we have chopped to Central Command; forexample the -I think the USS BarTY isan example. The helicepters out of the UK are fromEuropean Command, and we have assets from United States Special Operations Command andTransportation Command isdeeply involved in this.

But as soon as weheard - got adraft request from the Department ofState, we immediatelystarted acting on that late last week and all throughout the weekend.

But the thing I have been telling people who have asked abouttimeliness is we have to balance therequirements for asafe, secure and rapidoperation, and we're doing itwith asense ofurgency.But I also tell themit's atime - as Admiral Walsh said the other day it'sphysics, it's time-<listance.

The MEU was ashore inJordan, conducting and exercise, so they had 10 disengage from thatexercise, regroup, reload and Ihen get underway.

We had a ship involved with - inanexercise I think in (and?) assets inUkraine orRomania- aEUCOMexercise which they had 10 disengage from and move that way.

We had ships move from the Red Sea- ships that had already transited the Med were tothe west,had to reenterthe Mediterranean and head thisway. And they are moving as fast as they can.

Sowith that - I've told people that. you know, it'sa war zone,with an active blockade and our jobis to get it right the first timeand not rush tofailure.And that's why we're balancing those threemain concems andoperational imperatives I've mentioned.

So with that, I can answer any questions - let me justgive yousome numbers, projections, ofAmerican citizens we canhandle. Yesterday we handled about400 - I am sorry - yesterday we and Iamgoing to lalk in terms ofcapacity, because we have assetsonsite and then theambassadorand the embassy has to get these citizens toeither the landing pad at the embassyOf

dockside,and frankly, we have not filled every seat.

But let me talk in termsof capacity. Yesterday we had the capacity to evacuate about 440Americans: today it's 1,340. Tomorrow it will be acapacity of 2,400; Fndaywe will have thecapacity toevacuateabout3,800, and thenSaturday with all the assets we'll have on station wecouldevacuate 6.500.

So as you see, we're rapidly forming this task force and building our capability. And with that, I'llanswer any questions you might have.

Q: This isJeff McCausland from CBS. Great summary. Quick question, long question. Quickquestion - then I assume 6,500 is what you see assteady-state capacity unless things becomedramaticallyworse - example, having to move folks out of Israel.

And secondquestion is, with the two DOGs forescort duty, can you talk at all aboutsecurityconcerns, for exampleit seemsthat a large ship like this with U.S. passengers moving in that areacould be aprime Hezbollah, al Qaeda, pick your favorite nightmare target. Could you talk a little bitabout those concerns?

Barbero: Well the first thing - as faras our capacity, the embassy has requested that wemeet arate of 2,000 per day, so that is our baseline, and that isthe number wehave been operatingandbuilding to. So anythingabove thatisadditional capacity that we havepushed to the area. So thatisour planning figure. Now that couldmange if things go south; bUI2,OOO per day iswhat we gotfromthe embassy and the Department ofState and that's what we've been operating with .

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As far asmissile threat, wehave no indicationsof threat toour task force or Americancitizens, butthe point I make is we are bu ildingacapability for thislocal commander to be able to respond toany threat that may arise.

Q: Thank you.

Barbero: Okay.

(shortcross talk)

Q: Am I correct that the ambassador- his responsibility are ashore; in other words, you all pick upresponsibilities when the people getto the point ofembarkation, but you're not planning on anytrips ashore since the ambassador and the movement ofpeople from locations in Lebanon to portsofembarkation?

Barbero: We have not been asked forthat, and I am sure down at the tactical level theymay belooking at some options, but we - it has not beendiscussed with useither at the Oepartment ofDefense or inour~anning .

Q: This isJohnGanrett. With regard to the ambassadoror the embassy, the country team'sresponsibility to get the folks to the collection point, have theyordo you anticipate that theywill beasking for any Iransportation type support for that once youget within rangeor whatever theparameter is thai has to bemel?

Barbero: We havenot received and there has been no discussion with us about requirement10move Americancitizenstothese points of embarkation,either theAmericanembassy for airordockside for the ships, so that hasnot been discussed withusor we havenot been givenawaming order forthat.

Q:Okay, sir, thanks, and one follow-on, Have theyasked for any kindof security supportfor thosecollectionpoints, et cetera?

Barbero:No theyhave not, not at this time, bul we will have the capabilily if that changes.

Q: Sure.

Q: Hey sir, it'sSteve Greer. How are youdoing?

Barbero: Hey, sergeant major,how are you?

Q: Hey, I am doinggreal sir, I'mglad you're still in the fight.

Barbero: Cool.

Q: Say, I'vegot aquick one. Howare wegetting the word out to citizens out there - is it loudspeakers or radio, oris it lV? Are those capacities still available there?Orhoware we notifyingthemof where these embarkationpoints are at?

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Barbero: The embassy and State Department are doing that, and the State Department has done itthrough various means. We are not responsible for that, although we are flowing some PSYOPStorces there that can help the ambassador as tar as crowd control and announcements and thingslike that. But that is strictly the embassy's job and I am not sure howeffective theyhave been indoing that orexactly what means theyhave been doing that by; I don't know.

Q: Sure. Sir, and one more for you.At these two sites, isitU.S. Marines that are there providingthe security and the kind of the patting down so some sort ofsuicide bomber guydoesn't jump on a53 orhappen toget on one of these ships? Isthat our forces doing that, isthat the Lebanesemilitary, who isthat involved in that?

Barbero: Sergeant major, I don't knowfor sure.

Q: Okay.

Barbero: Icouldn't answer that. I knowthat there is security in place and they are checkingcredentials and paperwork and registrations and things like that, but as far as who isphysicallysecuring each one ofthese guys orchecking them, I don't knowfor sure, I couldn't give you astraight answer.

Q: Okay, thanks though, I appreciate it.

Barbero: Okay, hooah.

Q: This isJeff McCausland again. Can youtalk at all about any future contingencyplanning. Imean, obviously wehope that this willbe contained to south Lebanon, but have youconsideredany additional- ofcourse youget those interesting boundary issues between CENTCOM, EUCOM- if you should be, for example, asked to evacuate U.S. citizens from northem portions of Israel, ordoes anyone have an estimate ofhow manyU.S. citizens right now are in Syria, if we should haveto expand the area ofevacuation?

Barbero: Umm, we are, youknow, we've got this plan pretty well in motion, and alii better say isCentral Command is, you know, looking atall the possible threats and contingencies and we areassessing that nowas part of any kind ofplanning.

Q: Okay.

Barbero: So, that's normal for us to -

Q: Do you know offhand, ordoes anybodythere knowoffhand, I mean I knowright nowthey saythere are about 25,000 U.S. in Lebanon, howmany U.S. there might be in Syria right now? Imean,God knows how many there are in Israel, but what the number might be for Syria?

Barbero: I don't know. The State Department hopefully could answer that.

1-..... Gentlemen, any more questions for the general?

Q: Just ourbackground?

I came on late. This isJeff. What'sour ru les ofengagement here? Are we on

We're onbackground.L.-..I

Q: Where are we?

........1 Yes,sir, we're on background.

Q: Background, okay.

~--'''' y one else have questions forthe general?All right, well thanks gentlemen for joiningus.General, thanks so much for your time.

Q: Grea~ thanks a lot, sir.

Barbero: Thanks. Sergeant major, good heanng you again.

Q: Hooah, sir, cool.

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>>Update f r om the Chief o f Army Public Affai r s>>More than 23 5,000 U.S. Army Soldiers are s erving overseas in 120 countrie s . Mor e t han91 , 000 U. S. Army Soldiers ma ke up t he backbone of t he Americ an and coa l ition t eam i n Iraq,as o f JU~y 18, 2006. There a r e 17 ,000 Army Soldiers serving i n Afgha ni s tan as part o fOpera tion Endur i ng Freedom.>>>Adaptabi lity a nd l earn ing>-- The Army remains a lea r ning organ i zation. We are examining Ope r a t i on Iraqi Fr e edomand Ope r at ion Enduring Freedom opera tion s f or counterinsurgency i ns i ght s ( ~ le ssons

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>>Re c r u i t i ng and re t ention of quality people>- - I n the fi rs t n ine mon t h s o f Fis c a l Year 2006 (through June 2006), almost 100,000Soldiers reenlis t ed in the Army . Two out of three Sol diers eligible to r eenlist, continueto r e enl i s t.>a . As of end of mon t h June, a c t i v e Army reenlisted 56,531 Soldiers th i s f isca l year:109% of t he year-to - date s t raigh t -line gl i de pa t h of 52,002. Overall Fiscal Year 2006retention miss ion i s 64 ,20 0--a l mos t i dentical to the FY05 mission .>b . As o f end of mo nth June, US Army Reserve reenlisted 12,329 Soldiers thi s fisca lyear : 95% o f the year -to-date straight - line g lide path of 1 2 , 932. Overal l FY06 r e t e n t i o nmi s s i on is 17 , 7 1 2--1 ,464 more than FY05.>c . As of end o f mon t h June, Army Na t i o na l Guard reen l isted 30 ,803 Soldiers this f i s c a lyear : 1 22 % of t he year-to-date s t ra i ght-l ine g l i d e path o f 25,23 9. Overal l FY06 r e t e n t i onmission is 34,875--2,305 more than FY05.>>- - So far t h i s f iscal year , mo re t han 1 25 , 000 Americans h ave answered the Ca l l t o Dutya nd joined t he U.S . Army. In June alone, mo re than 2 0 , 00 0 patriots joine d the Army t e a m.>a. In t he June r e porting pe r i od , the Ac tiv e Army met i t s g oal for t h e thirteenthconsecutive month, recrui ting 8,756 Soldiers i nto the Active Army : 102 % of the monthlygoal of 8,600. So far t h i s f i s c a l year, we are at 104% of the year -to-date mission,recruiting 51,612 So ldiers towards a goal of 4 9 ,7 00. The fisca l year recruit ing mi s s i on is80,000- identical to l a s t year'S mission .>b. I n the June reporting period we a c ces s ed 5,640 Soldiers into t h e Army Reserve : 121%of t he mon thly access i on goa l of 4 , 661. So fa r this f i s c a l year, the Army Reserve is a t101% of the year - to-date access ion mission, access ing 2 5,004 Soldiers towar ds a goal o f24,836. The fiscal year mission of 36 , 032 i s 7,547 more t han l a s t year's mission.>c . In t he June reporting pe r i od we accessed 5,823 Soldiers into the Army NationalGuard: 101% of the monthly g o a l of 5, 743 . So far this fisca l year , the Army National Guardis a t 10 3% of the year-to -date mi s s i on , a ccess ing 51,4 77 Soldiers towards a goal o f49,988 . The fiscal yea r mission of 70,000 i s 7 , 0 00 more t han l ast y e ar 's miss ion .>>-- Regarding waivers: Th e Army h a s a soun d pro c e s s for conduct ing waivers t hat a llowstho s e who have overcome mistakes, made earlier in their l i v e s , to s e rve thei r country.Only 3 of 10 men a nd women between 17 a nd 24 years o ld f u l l y quali fy f o r service i n theArmy du e t o medical, mora l, phys ica l , education a n d apti tude chal lenges, and s tandards i nour society have c h ange d over the years. AS an example , t od a y ' s young men a nd women areb e i ng charged for offenses t ha t i n ear l ier yea rs wouldn't have bee n cons idered a seriousoffense, a nd might not ha v e res u lte d i n charges in the f i r s t p lace. We a re a re f lec t i on o ft h o s e changes. The Army does not rehabil i tate enlistees who r eceive wa ivers; they h avealready overcome their mi s take s .>-- It should a lso be noted t hat we do not a llow e nlis tme n t of anyone who is pending acrimi nal c harge, serving any type of probationary p e riod, parol e, c o n f ine me n t or wh o i nlie u of or a res u l t of being pro s e c u t e d was o r de red by a court to serve in the mi l itary .The mi l itary s ervices are not an al ternative t o the cr i minal j ust ice system a nd shouldneve r b e viewed as an alte r nativ e source of r e h abili t a t i o n for those t ha t have notsubscribed to the lega l a nd mo r al standards wi thin our society. Fo r t hos e that h ad p astinvolvement with t he l aw, the waive r p r o c e s s recognizes tha t some p e op l e have mademistakes and h av e overcome the i r pas t beh av i o r and have the potential for b e i ng aproduct i ve and law a biding citizen .>>-- The u nderlying p u rpo s e of a moral character waiver a nd standar ds t hat are applied inthat r e gard is to mi n i mize the r isk o f enlisting p e r s o n s who may b e c ome disciplinaryproble ms or a security risk t o t he mi l itary . When an applicant a pplies f or enlistment a ndhas had a p a s t h istory o f cr i mina l misconduct a thorough r eview is made to evaluate thep ersons c urrent c h a r acter a nd p o tent i al for mi l ita ry service. In mos t cases we see ,· thecharg es were from a period o f t i me when t h e app l i can t was young a nd imma t u re. We look att he r ecent history s uch as employme nt , school ing, re f ere nces and signs o f remors e a ndchanged behavior s ince the incident occurre d as part of the waiver p r o c e s s.>>Misconduc t Al legations>-- Almos t 650,000 troops have deployed t o I r aq a n d Afghanistan, and more t han 10 0 , 00 0

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troops hav e be en deploye d to t he Balkans - - - and served honor ably . The widespread mediacover age of the deta i nee abuse and t he rape and mu r de r of a n I r aq i fema le teenager and herfami l y gives the percept ion that Sol die r misconduct i n Iraq is r unning r ampant. Ac tuallyi nc idents of serious Soldier mi s conduct are f ew.>>-- The Army has a long hi sto ry o f pol i c i ng its elf and continues to live the Army Val ues.I n the c ases o f Abu Ghraib and Mahmudiyah , i t was So ldi ers who r epor ted t he a l legations ofmi s conduct . Soldiers report, leaders a c t , and the system takes action if warranted . Byaggressively i nvestigating and pros e cuting a l l a llegations o f cri mes committed by Soldierswe may be able t o r e f ute mi s i n f orma t i on and reduce Iraqi anger and hate conce rning s uchallegat i ons .>>-- The U.S . Army is a va l ue s-ba s ed organi zation. We are d i s appo i nt ed - heartbroken -t ha t some o f our own are charged with br eaking the f a i t h and trus t bestowed upon t hem. Wedo not like what may have happened; unfortunately we can not change it , but we ca n doeverything i n our power to bring to justice those who are guil ty . When allega tions o fSoldier misconduct are reported they are fully investigated in an open and transparentsystem. We t ake a l legations o f wrong do i ng by So l d i e r s ve ry serious ly , and a re committedt o thor oughl y investigate such a llegat ions.>>- - Thus f a r , al legations against 267 Soldiers have been addressed in courts-martial , nonjUdici a l pun i shme nts, and ot he r adverse admi nistrative punishments. These include, as ofJ une 16, 2006 :>- u -v ccuxc e - mart ial : 85>- - - - - Non - j udic i a l punishments: 95>- - - - - Ot he r adminis trative actions: 87>>- - The U.S. mi litary has gone to great l engths i n our t r a i n i ng, education, and pre deployment exercises to ensure that our soldiers know wha t const i t ut e s violations o f t helaw of war. The Army ensures each Soldie r is physical ly and me ntal l y tough, and t rainedin wa rr i or tasks and dril ls. Be fore any Sol d i e r is dep l oyed t o I r aq or Af ghanis tan, t heArmy employs a traini ng app r oach t hat includes instruction a nd exercises in the Ru l es ofEngag ement , Ru l e s fo r the Use o f Force , Esca l a tion o f For c e princ i ples , Law o f Wa r,So ldier's Ru l e s , Uni form Code o f Mil i tary J ust ice, Code of Conduc t , Army va l ue s , Ethi c sand Cul t ur al Awarene s s .>>Bottom Line>We're in a long war. Never before , since the inception of the all - volunteer f orce i n197 3 , has our Army f a ced s uch myr i ad complex challenges i n an ever-chang i ng and unc ertai ngloba l e nv ironment .>>Lea ders a t all levels are wor king harder than ever to sus t a in the i nstitution andsimultaneously t rans fo rm whi l e e ns ur i ng t he Army is ful l y sta f f ed , t r a ine d and equipped t oachieve v i c tory i n the war on t errorism.>>The America n people can be p r oud o f the conduct and ac compl i s hments of the Amer i canSold iers who are fighting f or the freedom o f others, our own freedom, and ou r way of l ife .>>>Classi fication : UNCLASSIFIED>Caveats: NONE>>Class i fication: UNCLASSI FIED>Caveats : NONE

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TranscriptOSD-PA military ana lyst callBriefer: Senior Military OfficialMonday, Au st 07 2006TranscriberON BACKG!R=O"'UND= "....- .Jquote as senior military offic ialHost: OSD-PA

.....__~ (in progress) per SOP, I am just going to let everyone on the call know thiscall is on background, so you may quote a senior DoD official with anything you hear onthis call. General. unless you want to go on the record. you can state that at the time.otherwise we ' ll keep it on background. And with that, I am just going to hand it over toyou for any opening remarks you have and then you can feel free to take their questions ifyou would.

Briefer: Okay, well thanks very much. Hello everybody, glad to have the opportunity tosay a few things as we look at the Middle East here in this particularly interesting timefor us.

A few points I want to make up front and then 1will be happy to answer any questions. Iknow that's probably what everybody wants to do.

First of all, the three major movements that we see playing themselves out in the region.Number one, we see Iranian-sponsored activity going on with -- through the Syrians andinto Hezbollah and throughout the other Shi ' ite communities in the region. That playsitself out in a way that is designed to gain time for the Iranian nuclear program and alsodesigned to increase Iranian regional power in a way that I think is definitely increased inthe past year or so.

Secondly we have the Sunni extremists al Qaeda and their associated movements that areoperating throughout most of the Sunni regions. I wouldn' t say that they've necessarilyincreased their levels of activity but they are certainly looking for mergers and a way toincrease their value on the global stage. J don 't think that they probably think that they'vedone enough here lately, and we should look for them to try to make a statement here inthe foreseeable future, probably outside of the region, but it could also be deliveredagainst tbe oil infrastructure, as you know that they've tried to do before.

And of course the third big issue that constantly plays itselfout is the context of theArab-Israel context - or conflict. You see it manifesting itself in the HezboUab, Lebanon,Israel, Palestine activity that 's going on. When the process is moving forward it seems tomake the region in general a bit easier to deal with. When the process breaks down and itmoves towards conflict, it makes the region very difficult to deal with, not only from theUnited States' perspective, but from the perspective of all the powers in the region.

I think., you know, currently we've got to stabilize Iraq, stabilize Afghanistan, we've gotto keep the flow of resources going in the region ; we 've got to deter Iran; we have to help

out where we can with regard to helpi ng the Lebanese army at the right time, and alsowith regard to maintaining some readin ess ofour forces off the coast of Lebanon. It maycome as a surprise to you but the 15,000 - nearly 15,000 Americans that were evacuatedoff the coast of Lebanon were evacuated under a CENTCOM operation, not a EUC OMoperation.

J think the key point that' s going on in Iraq where all of these interesting major probl emscome to bear in one form or another is that we see a shift from insurgency over the pastseven or eigh t months - and it probably started sooner that - more to sectarian vio lenceand sectarian activity .

I think that this type ofproblem that we are seeing in Baghdad, which has really reach edvery serious levels of concern for us, has got to be dealt with, and I want to make surethat everybody knows it's just not a matter of dealing with it mi litar ily; it's a matter ofdealing wi th it mili tari ly, to a certain extent economically, but certain ly politically. Andin particular on the political arena is a requirement to get the Jaysh al Mahdi rogueelements under contro l, and where they can 't be brought under control politically, theyhave to be dealt with .

We also have a pretty robust program that's starting to show some good effects agains thitting the what I would call the death squad cells. We certainly know the Sunni deathsquad cells because they primarily tend to be al Qaeda related or Ba' athi st related that wehave a fair ly good view of. On the Shi'a side it ' s been harder for us, but last night weconducted some operations against some of the Shi' a death squads that had some goodeffect, and we continue to want to do more or that, and we' ll have to do that inconj unction with the Iraqi armed forces.

The - it's clear from operations that are going on in Baghdad, at least I think it ' s clear inmy mind, it may not be in the public ' s mind, our forces are there primarily to participatein the outer cordon operations that are going on to isolate the Sunni, and Iraqi securityforces are doing a lot of the main work except for some of the preci se hits that need to bedone against the various death squad elements that we're findin g in that battle space.

Certainly we thou ght that the situation was serious enough so that on its way out of thecountry we decid ed to divert the 172"' (Stryker Brigade) for anywhere from 90 to 120days into the Baghdad area. We did it for a couple of different reaso ns. One, they are veryexperienced; they did a great job up in Mosul, And two, they are a very well-integratedunit with regard to both operational and intelligence capability, and experienced in a waythat we think will start to help us see some bette r results in the Baghdad space relativelysoon.

The situation in Afghanistan probably deserves a mention or two. As you know, abou t aweek and a half ago we transitioned the regional command south region over to NATOcommand. We think that that area will continue to be contested by the Taliban; we alsoexpect some increase in Tali ban activity in the eas tern sector, which is primarily a U.S.sector, and while there is certainly a lot of activity, particularly in Helmand province, it's

not all Taliban; part of it is Ta liban, part of it is certainly drug-lord related activity that ' sgoing on there. But we don't see anything militarily that would unhinge our efforts rightnow as we go through the remainder of the summer and into the winter period inAfghanistan .

So, that having been said I guess there' s probably other places we could talk about in theregion. Certainly we've got activity going on down in Somalia. where the United IslamicCourts or the Council of Islamic Courts - they tend to change their names frequentl y - areshowing a degree of capacity down there that we haven't seen anyone particular partyhave before. What's worrisome to us about that is that they de finitely have contacts withaJ Qaeda and they have been known to harbor al Qaeda militants in the region, althoughnot in great numbers. We certainly should expect a pickup of activity there.

Throughout the rest of the region. the dynamic as you can imagine with all of thesevarious things going on really presents a very pressurized and dynamic military period,but also the dipl omatic and political activity that's going on is probably as intense as I'veever seen. So that having been said, nobod y has yet ordered North Korea into our AORand so we're happy with that.

Q : Hey, general, it ' s (name); how are you?

Briefer : Hey, how are you (name)?

Q: Terrific. Listen, take you back to your first three points. Do you see any convergenceor divergence or parallels tracks between, you know, the Iranian Hezbo llah largely Shi 'aeffort and of co urse the al Qaeda Sunni extremists? (For these guys? Are these guys?) onparallel tracks, do they hate each other, are they tacit cooperative? Can you make anycomment on that at all?

Briefer: Yeah, my view on that is that they are not cooperating officially. I ce rtainly don'tsee it. I regard what 's going on in Hezbollah Hamas battle space as be ing manipulated byIran, direc ted by Syria and executed by Hamas and Pales tine and Hezbollah in theLebanese border area.

Th e convergence - I think it ' s our worst nightmare if there were to be some convergencebut the way people are behaving towards one another throughout the region - Sunni andShi ' a - I think would be a very tactical and a very transitory sort of convergence, and,you know, I can ' t imagine them coming together in a big way against us, although I cancertainly imagine and I think it 's not out of the rea lm of the possib le that in Iraq, youcould see the Iranians dialing up the pressure in southern Iraq , whil e at the same time alQaeda in al Anbar Province and around Baghdad are tryi ng dial up the pressure. Theywould not becoordinated moves; they would be moves that are trying to becomplementary ofone another, but not necessari ly cooperate with one another. Over.

Q: Thank you.

Q: You mention that we have to deter Iran? How the heck do you do that?

Briefer: One thing that we certainly do with the Iranians is that we continue to knowwhere their IRGC Kuds force people are acting, where they are operating. Certainly inthe Persian Gulf area it's been very interesting to me - or in the Arabian Gulf if you wantto use the term that our Arab buddies use - it ' s very, very clear to me that the Iranianmilitary activity that was fairly aggress ive that we saw from their naval and air units - atleast aggressive in terms of their defense posture - has gone down actually below whatwe've seen , so it's interesting to me that as the pressure gets turned up militari ly on theHezbollah front that they are showing really no levels ofbig activity on the - within theirown territory or in the territory that they normally patrol and operate in in the ArabianGulf area.

This doesn't mean that we won't see them try to operate in southern Iraq and in Sadr Citythrough their surrogates, but it' s very difficu lt for us to really know how that surrogateactivity cause and effect is working. We have, as you know, captured equipment that hasbeen smuggled across the border, but every time we capture it it ' s never in an Iranian' shand, it ' s always in an Iraqi-Shi 'a hand of some sort.

So, the best way for us to deter the Iranians as a nation-state is to make sure that our airand naval presence in the region remains robust enough to be able to deal with them ifthings get more - more difficult with them, and for them to understand that while theythink we may be tapped out, that we are definitely not tapped out, and that, you know,they can be dealt with militarily in a defensive manner if necessary.

Q: But that doesn't reach to the (inaudible) of their nuclear program.

Briefer: Well, their nuclear program - you've got to make sure that over time you' redoing what you can to not allow that nuclear program to go forward. If there's arequirement for military activity against that, we'll cross that road when we come to it. Ithink that it's a while before they have the capacity to field a nuclear weapon, although Iunderstand that there ' s a lot ofpeople in the intelligence community that's got differentviews on it. My view is still pretty much like I think the view of most people in thecommunity, somewhere after 2010.

Q: (name).

Briefer: Hey (name).

Q: Sir, how are you?

Briefer: Great.

Q: l 72nd into Baghdad. Is that enough - realizing you have a force constraint. Some folksaround town and other places are talking the numbers ought to go up considerably overthe next six months or so. How would you respond to that?

Q: Well (name), I think if you take into account the Iraqi arm y units that are aroundBaghdad, and the local Iraqi poli ce and you take into account that at thi s stage in thecampaign we want them to take the lead in dealing with the sectarian violence to theextent possible, that we are relying heavily on Iraq i mi litary to do the job for whichthey're capab le of doing. And so U.S. forces on the outer cordo n and doing the prec isionwork and also providin g the enablers is what we are trying to accomplish there. And ofcourse you know that we've got U.S. transition teams with most of the Iraqi units.

There's two divisions worth of what I would call national po lice that haven't rea llyachieved the level ofdiscipline or real ly done what I think the Iraqi government needsthem to do . They are somewhere between the local po lice and the army, and that force weare in the process of standing it down at various locations, retraining it and trying to get itback on line with reliable connections to the new Ministry of the Interior. So my answeris there 's a helluva lot more troops available in Iraq than there ' s eve r been. The militaryin particular is pretty responsible and pretty active. I think more American troops overand beyond what we currently have we certainly wouldn 't want to do but we don't rule itout if necessary.

Q: (name). You mentioned possible he lping the Lebanese Army. How do you see weco uld enter in and help there? Are we just anathema because ofour relationship withIsrael?

Briefer: We ll I think in the short term it's probabl y not a good idea for us to be aro und,altho ugh that' s a po litical decision . In the long term, they want us to be aro und. TheLebanese army's got very good connections with the Un ited States and France and otherwestern countries. They want to be reformed along western lines. Hezbollah doesn 't wantto have western trainers or western contractors or western connections with it, and ofcourse they don 't want to be disarmed in the long run for reasons that I think are obviousto us.

I think that you don't achieve anything unti l over time the Lebanese government hasattained its sovereignty down to the bord er with Israel , and that will be a long slowprocess. But as we move tow ard that process, I think it 's essential that you bring theLebanese army'up to the standard that has to be done immediate ly -- which is fixed someof their spare parts prob lems and some of their com bat systems prob lems and then youbegi n some training not only inside Lebanon but (abroad?) .

Now, nobod y' s told me to begin training. We have conducted an assessment before theproblem with Hezbollah started a whi le back. And that assessment tells us there' sprobably a two- to five-year pro gram that' s necessary to get the Lebanese army up to thepoint where they can really be what we would consider to be effective. And that's got tobe accompanied by a program to disarm the Hezbollah militia which of course is adifficult point in its own right.

Q: Thank you.

Q: Another question on al Sadr's Mahdi army. What kind - what kind of a strategy canyou go about using to handle this guy? You say it' s a political problem for a1Maliki . Isthere anything that will work other than just the normal police work, and then at somepoin t going after the part of his militia that won't cooperate?

Briefer: Well , there' s two different ways that you have to look at it. Number one, there ' s- when it gets to the point where there will be large-scale direct confrontation, do wehave the forces in the field necessary to take care of it, and I think the answer is yes. Ithink they have no intention of trying to provoke a major confrontation. They've donethat twice in the past and it and it never worked out for them and I don' t think that theyare tryin g to do that right now.

No doubt however that there are rogue elements - rogue may be a term that's subject tosome debate - but there are certainly elements that don 't appear to be necessarilyconnec ted to Sadr himself that are participating in these various death squad activities.It' s really clear to me that we've got to target them, and one of the real marks of whetherwe are going to be success ful in Baghdad or not will be the willingness of the Iraqigovernment - national government - to underwrite those military operations necessary totake those cells out, not only on the Shi 'a side, but on the Sunni side.

Q: Thank you.

Briefer: And so I think it's the leadership, go after the known cells that are going the badwork, and like I said last night we had some pretty good effect and we are going tocontinue that process.

Q: Thank you.

Q: General (Name.)

Briefer: Hey (nam e).

Q: Iran is of course as we all know leading the Lebanese problem. They are also I believeyou would agree a major problem with you in Iraq right now, not only within thegovernment - you have elements within the government that are I think are cooperatingwith the Iranians (Akeem? Sp?) and others I am told . Ifwe don 't take out and change theregime or leadership in Iran we are going continue to have major problems over there.

Has anyone prop osed, and I know you can 't really give me the answer, but the fact isregime change with Europe and everyone has got to be an eventual decision or we' llnever get any stability in the region.

Briefer: Well, I tell you (name) the Iraqi - or the Iranian government is very unpopularwith its own people.

Q: Concur.

Brie fer: And in my mind ifyou can contain and protect and deter and do those things thatbring into account an awful lot of the sentiment in the Arab Sunni population that theywant to contain and protect and deter the Iranians in conjunction with the United States,then I think you can start setting the conditions that isolate the Iranians.

If you can solve the problem in Lebanon in a way that diminishes Hezbollah, which againat this particu lar point is probabl y more diplom atic than it is military, and if you can startmoving both Iraq and Syria toward the Arab center, then I think there' s a very goodchance that Iran 's power is both deterred and contained.

But it' s a long-term strategy, it'd take an awful lot of effort, it' s very hard to do whenthere ' s an Arab-Israeli conflict going on, but I think the Iranians are masters at takingadvantage of unsettled situations, and as you know, they play all sides against the middl e;they not only are working with the Iraqi government to try to get the Iraqi government tostabilize, but their IRGC Kuds force people are working with the vario us Shi ' a roguemiliti as specifically to undermine the security situation down in Basra and up in SadrCity.

So it' s a very complicated problem for us but I'm of the opinion that we 've got enoughpower, there ' s enough regional sentiment and there' s enough opportunity that over timeyou set the conditions where the Iranian current government of (amedi neged - sp) andthe various other extreme factions that have come together really can' t make it in the 21st

century. That may be wishful thinking, but that ' s what I think.

Q: Well , when I said regime change I am nollalking U.S., but I am talking covert andletting the Iranian people take their country back, and doing the same things that you aretalking about getting alliances over there that would encourage this activity. I mean, lordknows they' ve got enough demonstrations and instability there and we know thepopulation doesn't like them, but how would we get that coa lition over there, plus covertoperations to set up so that the Iranian people would ensure that that regime cannot keepa stable country over there? That' s all I am saying.

Briefer: It ' s again probably the work of somebody else than CENTCOM, but I can tellyou that there is a tremendous amount of concern in the Arab countries about Iranianhegemony right now. And it's actually just not in the Arab Sunni states, but you also seea lot of it reflec ted from the Iraqi Shi 'a politicians as well. It ' s not true that they arecompletely dominated by the Iranians. I think ultim ately they are trying to buildthemselves a state that will be part of the Arab world.

So the number one story last year was Iraq stability. As I go around the Arab world thisyear, the number one story is Iranian expansionism, hegemony and nuclear program.Now, in this period of unsettled activity, a lot of people have a lot of desire to sort thisthing out rather quickl y so that a unified front can emerge against the Iranians, but thatwill take a lot of (scaling?) - covertly how things emerge, (name), Ijust can ' t say.

Q: Okay, thank you sir.

Q: (Name) again . In view of your last statements there, do you view the turn instatements by the surrounding Arab countries toward Hezbollah from their originalstatements as simply rhetoric that will soon pass. or do you see any way that thesegovernments can have any long-term interest in supporti ng Hezbollah, you know,considering they are an Iranian based factor?

Briefer: Well . it depends upon the state. For example, the other day there were Shi'ademonstrations, in (Damahn? Sp?) the oil-producing area of Saudi Arabia. And this ispreci sely what the Saudis thought wou ld happen as a result of Iranian ambitions in theregion. And so I think you' ll always see Saudi Arabia very much squared off againstShi 'a interests. whether they are in the form of'Hezbollah, various parties in Iraq such asMuqtada Sadr's folks, or. you know, within the vario us Gulf States .

Jordan, on the other hand, which - you know, the king has been speaking out a lot againstthe Iranians, that having been said, his people - or the Jordanian people -- are looking atHezboll ah as one of the few Arab resistant movements that ' s ever been able to doanything the Israelis, and so he ' s got a problem in managing street expectations with hisown goo-politica l outlook, and so, you know - again, it's complicated, but I think it'stransitory. I think over time most of the Arab countries with the exception of Syriaunderstand that they' ve got to dimini sh Hezbollah power because it's a conduit forIranian power, and I think ultimately the other Arab countries will work hard on theSyrians to get the Syrians out of that orbit as well. But it' s pretty interesting and dynamic.

Q: It' s (name) again. On the Syrians, I mean do you see any (inaudible) to suggest thatthere would actually be an opportunity to just (peel?) the Syrians away and of courseSyrian . Iranian (?) cooperation also may be marriage of convenience, and there may be apossibility to provide a series of incentives to make them do something like Qadaffi , andsort of find religion, to use a very bad metaphor. Do you think that' s at all possible or justwishful thinkin g?

Briefer: No, I think it 's possible and I think it' s a road that ought to be pursued. I think acornerstone ofour strategic thought how do you get the Syrians away from the Iranianorbit? And again, it's over time. You know, we' re kind of stuck in contact in this currentcrisis, and I don' t believe that we necessarily need to think that what's going to happen inthe next two or three weeks or next two or three months is going to be the way it's goingto emerge.

I think in the longer term the strategic framewo rk looks to me that it can move in apositive direction if we can get not only our own internal capabilities synchronized, butalso that ofour friends in the region probably most importantly, and also the Europeans.

I think when people look at how the Iranians have been playing this game and it's notreal clear to people right now but it will be a couple weeks after things settle down,

people will be even less interested in Iran emerging as a nuclear weapon state, and so Ithink the impetus will change, will be pretty major. Again , I am not trying to be overlyoptimistic, but I am not pessimistic that we necessarily move towards escalation in moredifficult times although that's possible, too .

Voice: Gentlemen, we have time for one last question.

Q: Hey general , (name). Question is about how we are getting our story out aboutinformation operations. From the beginning many of us on this phone call have talkedwith senior officials who said they've never really been happy with the 10 campaign.And it j ust seems that the bad guys are popping up gmups all over the Middle East, allover the world, as these things - maybe they're not organized togethe r but for somereason, you know, it 's like a bunch of ants -- when one finds food, they all know it.

And these things are popping up, and it just seems like the Iranians are sitting there,nobody' s putting any pre ssure on them, at least that's visible, as least in the medi a, atleast that you can see here. My question comes down to: What are we doing for thepeople who are not picking up arms, who are not throwing bombs, who want to have astable society, what are we doing to inoculate them agains t these gro ups as part of our 10campaign that shows that we're the good guys?

Briefer: Yeah, well, first of all, it's a great question . It' s one that we could talk on foranother hour. But I would tell you that we are not going to ever con vinc e the people inthe region that we are the good guys, at least not in the next 10 or 15 years. What we needto do is convince people in the region that it is not in their interest to side with either theSunni extremists or the Shi 'a extremists, and the Shi 'a extremists is state supported, theSunni extremi sts much less clearly so, and we need to empower the moderates to theextent that we can.

But the first thing that we need to do better - and I don 't think that we've done it at all - Imean, it 's interesting, when I testify in Wash ington, it ' s as if I - you know, this is a oneplayer gam e, that we happen to be playing a major tournament of some sort againstourselves in the Middle East, and the on ly thing that matters are the mis takes that wemake in unhinging our theoret ically unstoppable plan .

Th e truth ofthe matter is there's an awful lot of acto rs in the region that either are ourenemies directl y, or our enemies ind irectl y, and we don 't talk enough about who they are,what they represent , what they (mean? Made? Main?) and what happens if their visionbecomes mainstream in the region. lf the extremist vision, either revolutionary Iranian oral Qaed a ideology becomes mainstream in the region , the region will eith er mo ve to amajor war against itself- Sunni versus Shi'a, or one of those two groups will move to amajor action again st us in the west, at a helluva lot more cost and problem then wecurrently have .

So, why doesn 't this work it out? Why can' t we seem to talk about the enemy? Yourguess is as good as mine. We talk about it as much as we can ; I guess we' re not doing a

very good job of it, but I think we've got to expose this enemy for what this enemy is,and at the same time admit that we make plenty of mistakes, but on the other hand, weneed to understand that there's an enemy that' s got a plan, got an ideo logy and there areactually two very directions that are designed to throw the United States out of the regionand it' s fortunate for us that they haven't come together. I don 't think they will cometogether, at least not in the short term, but, you know, we've got to be talking about whatrevolutionary Iran means and thinks, because they are in my mind clearly doingeverything they can to be at war with us.

I read somewhere today somebody said, well the Iranians have been at war with us for along time, we've just never been at war with them. But the question is, you know, how dowe articulate what the Iranians have done, are doing and will do against our interests inthe region and against the interests of the moderates in the region? To me it' s easier todeal with that because it's tied to a state sponsor. AI Qaeda is a tougher thing to dealwith, because it ' s an ideology. Yet, if you get on their web sites and you just use theirown words and show their pictures ofwhat they think they 're all about, you would thinkit would disgust thinking people the same way that fascism and Japanese militarismdisgusted people in the Second World War, but unfortunately, it really hasn' t got to thedanger point yet.

Now, the other final thing I' d say to you is I have been reading a lot of intelligence herelately about what these various groups are saying to one another, and interest inglyenough they seem to think that they are getting chewed up by the media as well. And Iwas reading some conversation points here of some senior al Qaeda information wheresome of the senior leaders exchanged information and I won't reveal how we know this,you can imagine, but they' re essentially saying we just can 't seem to get the media tounderstand what we 're doing and why we're doing it. And certainly within Iraq as wecapture al Qaeda people that operate for AQIZ that they seem to think that all the mediaoutlets are against them, and if people only knew their story, they would be on their side.But of course, people know what they're doing, and they're not on their side.

So, look, I hope this is useful for you. I appreciate what everybody is doing. It's aninteresting time, but not one in which we ought to wring our hands and be pessimistic. Ithink there' s ways to maneuver through this successfully.

time.L,-__..... .General, thanks so much for joining us again today, we really appreciate your

Briefer: Okay.

'-;;:""''"7'::-' Gentlemen, again, just as a reminder you are free to quote a senior militaryofficial from today 's call, and thanks for joining us.

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Received th@ a ttached GEN McCaffrey ppt brief f rom CENTCOM ; i t i s a GWOT p r esentation maderecently a t NOV.

While t h@r @ i s no thing pa r t i c ular l y new he r e. he do@ s provide unfe ttered observations onI r aq. including dys functiona l /broken gove r nance . lack o f Congressional support f or long t erm f unding s o lut i ons . dangers of diplomatically confronting I r an . and "g rossly"i nad@qua t@ interagency suppor t. Thi s i s relevant because GEN Mcca f f r ey speaks i n va r i ousvenues , i s a n adjunc t p r ofessor at West Poin t . and i s a military ana lyst f or NBC andMSNBC. Hi s a udience r e a ch i s signi fi cant. and hi s observations wi l l cont i nue to s hapepopular op i n ion as we transi tion t o a new SECDEF and cont inue t o l ook hard a t t he GWOT wayahead.

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GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM

Presentation to:National Defense University

Defense Worldwide Counter Terrorism Conference

Monday, 6 November 2006

BARRY R. McCAFFREYGENERAL, USA (RETIRED)

2900 South Quincy Stree t, sune 300AArlington, VA 22206

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SIX INSIGHTS ON THE WAR ON TERROR

• The threat terrorist organizations have been intimidated and badly damaged.

• The threat has morphed and remains a huge danger to the US and our allies .

• Global animosity toward US foreign policy and the Administration isuniversal, intense, and growing.

• Homeland security has improved immeasurably since 9/11 (not withstandingKatrina).

• Homeland security is grossly under-resourced, lacks congressional support,and remains incoherent.

• The proliferation ofWMD nation states and technology remains the principalthreat to the American people and our allies.

GEN (R) Barry R. McCaffrey

ELEVEN OBSERVATIONS ON IRAQ -- 2006

l it - The morale, fighting effectiveness, and confidence ofV.S. combat forces continue to be simply awe-inspiring. Our allies are leaving.

2nd - The Iraq i Arm y is real, growing, and much more willing to fight. However, they are very badl y equipped. The Iraqi Police are adisaster.

3rd - The Maliki Administration is dysfunctional. Governance is broken. The nation is gripped with fear and distrust.

4t h. - Coalition and Iraqi forces have largely succeeded in neutralizing the foreign jihadist threat at a strategic and operational level.

5t h. - Inter-Agency Support for our U.S.- Iraq strategy is grossly inadequate. Only the Armed Forces and the CIA are at war.

6t h. - We face a serious strategic dilemma - Are U.S. combat troops conducting a police action governed by the rule of Iraqi law -or -- are they a Coalition Military Force supporting a counter-ins urgency campaign in a nation with almost no functioninginst itutions?

7th - U.S. Detain ee policy and conditions have improved dramatically. We may have over-corrected.

8th - U.S. combat forces need to reduce their footprint to get down to ten combat brigades by Christmas. We are going to break the USArmy.

9t h - Iraq cannot sustain economic recovery without enhanced and long-term U.S. budgetary support. Congressional support is lacking.

10t h - Tough U.S. diplomatic rhetoric abo ut confronting Iranian nuclear weapons is ill-advised.

n» - There is growing animosity by the US Armed Forces towards the Media.


NINE OBSERVATIONS ON AFGHANISTAN - 2006

1st _ Afghanistan has in five years moved from a situation of: mindl ess violence, cruelty, poverty, massi ve production of drugs, the absenceorgovernment, and isolation -- to a nation with a strugg linS democratic governme nt; an exploding economy; a rapidly growing,disciplined Army; a vibrant free press, and active diplomatic and eco nomic ties with its neighbors and the world.

2nd - There is little question that the level of fighting has intensified rapidly in the past year. Three years ago the Taliban operated in squadsized units. Last year they operated in company sized units (100+ men). Thi s year the Taliban are operating in battalion sized units(400+ men).

3rd _ The early assumption by NATO of a lead role in supporting the Afgh an government is a triumph. NATO is dramatically underresourced for the task at hand.

4 th • Afghanistan also produces more than 90% of the world ' s opium poppy (4,475 metric tons 2005) and is also the world's largest heroinproducing and trafficking country.

51. _The creation of 44 battalions o f ANA Forces (30,000 troops) in 36 months is an enormous success story. They are the most disciplined,and effective military force in Afghanistan 's history. In general, these troops are very courageous, and aggressive in field operations .The Afghan Army is miserab ly under-resourced .

61h _ The Afghan National Police are vital to establishing order in the urban and rural areas . (33,000 Afghan National Police ANP nominallyexist and 5,200 Afghan Border Po lice) Th ey are in a disastrous condition: badly equipped, corrupt, incompetent, poorly led andtrained, riddled by drug use and lackin g any semblance of a national police infrastructure.

7lh - We must eradicate the opium crops without fail each growing season -- and massively resource alternative economic development.

81h _ Th~ c~untry remains devastated ~y th.e peril of450,~00 land~ines which kill and maim ~un~reds ~fpeoI?l~ a y~ar; foreign .nussronen es are harassed; there IS Widespread public perception of government corruption, mcludmg mini sterial involvement Iiiillegal narcotics; intimidation and violence directed at NGO workers increased during the past year.

9 th - We must re-think the relative importanc e we place on Afghanistan, This was the source country ofintemational terrorism. If we faitand it slips back into anarchy -- it will again be a sanctuary for internationa l terror .


PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS FROM GUANTANAMO - 2006

1st - There is now zero physical or mental abuse of prisoners in this facility by eitherguard personnel or military intelligenceinterrogators.

2'· - Military interrogations are clearly in compliance with previously published U.S. military training standards.

3nJ - Procedures to review the status of Detainees exist. 179 have been released. More than fourhundred and fifty Detaineesare now being held. At least one-third are extremely dangerous terrorists.

4th - Environmental conditions clearly exceed those provided to U.S. Military personnel on garrison active duty.

51h - Opportunity to worship is respected. There is uninterrupted prayer time.

61h _ Medical care, dental care, mental health care, nutrition, and cultural sensitivity exceed the standards of'Ll.S. first-lineinstitutions.

7th - Detainees receive 4200 calories a day with 53 individually prepared special diet meals. Four different menus and threemeals a day areoffered. Halal and cultural dietary requirements are supported.

8th - All Detainees have significant opportunities for recreation (2-12 hours daily).

9tb _ Detainees are provided two full sets of clothing, have privacy in cell toilet facilities, and are permitted regular showers.

10'>- Books and magazines are offered to all compliant Detainees. (All Detainees regardless of status have a Koran in theircell).


WHAT IS IN OUR FUTURE?

I I' - The US economy continues to dominate the global marketplace.

2nd - US - Japanese economic and political cooperation grows even more intense.

3rd _ Saudi Arabia continues to modernize and maintains stability.

4th - Relations with Europe dramatically improve with the next Administration.

5th - Relations with Russia, China, India, and Pakistan -- now immeasurably better than pre-91l1 -- will continue to strengthen.

61h _ North Korea comes apart.

7111 - Terrorists strike America.

81h _ Crisis in Iraq -- uncertain outcome.

9l h _ Showdown in Afghanistan -- uncertain outcome.

l Oth- The death of Castro -- meltdown of repression.

11th _ Confrontation with Chavez -- instability and oil.


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Kat ie a nd Te a m --

Re c e i ved the a t tach e d GEN Mc Ca ffrey p p t bri e f f r om CENTCOM; it i s a GWOT p r e s entation ma d er ece n t l y a t NDU.

Wh ile t here i s no t hing par t icu l ar ly ne w here , he does p r o v ide unf e t t e r e d o b s erva t ions o nI r aq , i nc l uding d ysf unct i o na l /br o ken governance , l a c k of congress i ona l s upp o r t f or longt e rm f u nd ing s o l u tion s , dan gers o f d i p l oma t ica lly c onf ronting Iran , and "g r o s s l y "inade qua te i nteragency s u pp o r t. Th is i s re l evant b e c a u s e GEN McCaff r ey s p e aks in v a r iousvenue s , i s an a d j u n c t profess o r at Wes t Po i n t , a nd is a mil i t ary analys t for NBC andMSNBC. Hi s a ud ienc e rea ch i s s ign i f ican t , a n d h i s observa tions wi l l continu e t o sha pepopula r o p i nion a s we tran s i t i o n t o a ne w SECDEF a nd continue to l ook h a r d at the GWOT waya h e ad .

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DJ S , Sir; a couple of r equests p l e ase,

1 ) Secretary Rumsfeld wi l l ho l d a lunch meeting wi t h t he mi l itary a na l ys t s tomorrow a tnoon. This morning, SecDef r equested t he analysts receive an Iraq Update Briefi ng prior t ohis lunch meeting with them.

Lt Col from office as r eached out t o J -5 (ME) a nd J -3 to request a briefer beidentif1ed to present a combined UNCLASS strategy/curr ent ops br i e f i ng (20 mi n ea) for theg r ou p tomorrow at 11 15 i n the DepSe cDe f (T) conference room. BG Jones has t entat ivelyagr eed , pend ing a f or ma l tas ki ng , to brief I raq strategy. Read-a he ad packages a r eforthcomi ng f r om OSD/PA f or the b r i e fer (s ) i den t i f i ed .

With your concurrence, I r eques t you p l e a se f orwa r d t o J - 3 and J-5 reque s t ing the i ra s s i stance in i de nt i f y i ng a br i efer f or tomorrow's event.

2) Thorn Shanker, New York Ti me s , has r equested a background interview with LTG Lut e.

He j ust r eturned from I raq and one o f the stories he 's working on i s a profile of GENAbizai d. One o f GEN Abizaid 's s enior aide s e ncourage d Thorn to talk wi t h LTG Lu t e a s he i ssomeone who knows GEN Abizaid well and can talk abou t hi s ca reer .

LTG Lut e ha s agreed to the i nt e rvi ew a nd, pe nding approval, we ' ve tenta t ive l y s cheduledt he i nt erview f or t omorr ow, a t 1230.

Lt Col 1 f r om my o f fi ce wi l l be presen t to monitor t he i nterview.

Recommend we s upport . Thorn is one of the bes t and will write a me an i ng f u l and t ho ught f ulpe r sona l pr of i l e.

Ve ry Respectfully,Katie

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1) Secre t ary Rumsfeld wi l l ho ld a l unch me e ting with t he mili tary ana l ys t s t omor r ow a tnoon. This morn ing , Se cDef requested the analysts r e ceive an I raq Update Br ief i ng pri or t ohis l unch me e t i ng wi t h t hem.

Wi t h yo u r concurrence, I requ est you p l ea se fo rwa rd to J-3 requesting t heir ass is t ance ini dentifying a briefe r fo r tomor row' s event .

2 ) Thorn Shanker, New Yor k Ti mes , has reques t ed a background i ntervi e w wi th LTG Lut e .

He j us t r e tu r ned f r om I r aq and one o f the stories he 's wo r ki ng on is a prof i l e of GENAbi zaid . One o f GEN Abizai d ' s s eni o r a i de s encour aged Thorn t o talk with LTG Lute a s he iss omeone who knows GBN Abi zaid we l l and can ta l k about h i s career.

LTG Lute has ag r eed t o the i nterview and , pend i ng app r ova l , we ' ve ten tatively schedul edthe interview f or t omorr ow, at 12 30 .

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>>Genera l Sharp, Si r;>We have the fol l owing med i a requests f or J oint Staff pe rsonnel:>1 ) Secr e tary Rumsfeld will hold a l un ch meet i ng wi t h the military analysts tomorrow atnoon . Thi s morning , SecDef r equ e s t ed the a na lys ts receive an I r aq update Brie fing prior tohis l unch mee t ing with t hem.>Lt Col f r om my off i ce as reached out t o J- 3 t o r eque s t a briefer be i dentified t op r esent an UNCLASS cur r en t ops upda t e brief ing f or the g roup tomorr ow at 1115 in t heDepSecDef (T) conf erenc e r oom. Read -ahead packages are f orthcoming f r om OSD/PA for t hebriefer ident ified.>J-3 s taff ha s bee n informed o f the reques t ; with yo ur conc u r r e nce , we wi l l continuecoordinat ion with J3 to i den t i f y a brie fe r for t omorrow's event.>>Import an t one t o s uppor t - - the s e analyst s wi ll use thi s i n format i on to inform the i rfrequen t report i ng/a na l ys i s in the national me di a .>>2) Thorn Shanke r , New York Times , has requested a ba ckground interview with LTG Lute.>Thom Shanker j us t re t u r ne d from Iraq and one of the s t or ies he 's wo r king on is a p r ofileo f GEN Abizai d . One o f GEN Abizaid 's senior a i de s encour aged Thom t o tal k wi t h LTG Lute a she i s someone who knows GEN Abizaid well and can talk about his career.>LTG Lute has ag reed t o the interview and , pend i ng approval, we 've tentat i ve ly s cheduledthe interview for t omorrow, a t 1230 .>Lt Col f r om my of fi ce will be pre sent to moni t or t he i n tervi ew .>Re commen we s uppor t . Thom i s one of t he bes t and wi l l wr ite a mea ning f u l and t hought f ulprofile .>Very Res pec t fu l l y ,>Ka t i e>

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