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A Drawing Room Conversation: Italy and the
UK compared
To succeed, you need to work as a team
3/10/2008
A presentation by Giovanni Brauzzi(with the help of Mrs. Carmela Buonomo and Mrs. Paola Ragusa)
Outline• UK & Italy: a comparison
• The influence of History
• Different perceptions of Europe
• The London’s Italian Orchestra
Geography
ItalyItaly UKUK
Area (Sqm) 301,230 244,820
Coastline (Km) 7,600 12,429
Boundaries (km) 1,932.2 360
Demographics
ItalyItaly UKUKPopulation 58,147,733 60,776,238
Population Growth rate 0.01% 0.275%
Migration Migrant(s)/1000 population
2.06 2.17
Life expectancy (in years)
79.94 78.7
Birth Rateborn/1,000 population (2007)
8.54 10.67
Death RateDead/1,000 population (2007)
10.5 10.09
Demographics – Age Structure
ItalyItaly UKUK WorldWorld
0-140-14 13.75% 17.19% 27.37%
15-6415-64 66.36% 66.98% 65.12%
65 and 65 and overover
19.89% 15.83% 7.51%
Economic data
ItalyItaly UKUK
GDP per capita GDP per capita (US$)(US$)
31,000 35,300
GDP real Growth GDP real Growth RateRate
1.9% 2.9%
UnemploymentUnemployment 6.7% 5.4%
Labour forceLabour force 42.75% 50.53%
Economic DataItaly UK
Agriculture /GDP 1.9% 0.9%
Industry/GDP 28.9% 23.4%
Services/GDP 69.2% 75.7%
Agriculture/Labour Force
5% 1.4%
Industry/Labour Force 32% 18.2%
Services/Labour Force 63% 80.4%
TelecommunicationsItalyItaly UKUK
Telephone lines Telephone lines (million)(million)
25 33.5
Mobile phones Mobile phones (million)(million)
71.5 69.7
Radio Stations Radio Stations (AM)(AM) 100 219
Radio Stations Radio Stations (FM)(FM) 4,600 431
ShortwaveShortwave 9 3
Television StationsTelevision Stations 358 228
Internet Users Internet Users (million)(million)
28.9 33.6
Infrastructures
ItalyItaly UKUKRailwaysRailways 19,459 Km 16,567 Km
HighwaysHighways 479,688 Km 387,674 Km
WaterwaysWaterways 2,400 Km 3,200 Km
AirportsAirports 132 449
HeliportsHeliports 5 11
The influence of History
• Londinium• Florentine bankers ruined by the King of
England• The “Grand Tour” • The “Risorgimento”• Different interpretations
Londinium
Florentine bankers ruined by the King of England
The Grand Tour
He was a member of the residential colony who had made Florence their home. He knew the people who never walked about with Baedekers, who had learnt to take a siesta after lunch, who took drives the pension tourists had never heard of, and saw by private influence galleries which were closed to them. Living in delicate seclusion, some in furnished flats, others in Renaissance villas on Fiesole’s slope, they read, wrote, studies, and exchanged ideas, thus attaining to that intimate knowledge, or rather perception, of Florence which is denied to all who carry in their pockets the coupons of Cook”. A Room with a View, by Edward Morgan Forster
Risorgimento
“It is a tribute to the respect with which England and
Palmerston were regarded that the Italians felt that the
British must have been in some way responsible for the
triumphant outcome.”
L. C. B. Seaman, Victorian England
A British negative view on Italy
“If states are to function well they need an overarching sense of a greater whole to which the interest of the individual, the group or the party are ultimately subordinate; at the start of the new millennium, ‘Italy’ appeared still too uncertain and contested an idea to provide the emotional care of a nation – one al least that was in peace with itself and able to face the future with confidence.”
Christopher DugganThe Force of Destiny
A history of Italy since 1796Allen Lowe 2007
Cosmopolitismo come dono dell’Italia al mondo:“L’Italia imparava a occuparsi degli affari del genere umano, dimenticando i suoi”(E.Quinet, Le rivoluzioni d’Italia)
L’essenza del miracolo italiano fu di aver creato ricchezza che non si trasformò in potenza ma si trasfiguròin bellezza….Ogni cultura che si
irradiaconsuma, come una candela, il corpo da cui trae luce.Come ha scritto Fernand Braudel:“Quando cadde sull’Italia la notte, tutta l’Europa ne fu illuminata”.[G.Ruffolo, Quando l’Italia era una
superpotenza]
Abbiamo ancora
un ruolo nel mondo ?
Beati monoculi in terra caecorum
Different perceptions of Europe
• “Graecia capta ferum victorem coepit”• Playing Athens to Rome (London vs
Washington)• Soft Power vs Hard Power • Two different approaches
How best to safeguardNATIONAL INTERESTS
in the presence of:
•Few commodities •Limited energy sources•Aging and shrinking population•No way of keeping gates closed•Cultural and institutional pluralism•Universal vision•Lessons from old and recent past
The Smartest OptionPURSUING NATIONAL INTERESTSTHROUGH MULTILATERAL FORA
THE CONSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK
Art. 11 of Italian Constitution: Italy rejects war as an instrument of aggression against the liberties of other people and as a means for settling international controversies; it agrees, on conditions of equality with other States, to such limitations of sovereignty as may be necessary for an international order aimed at ensuring peace and justice among Nations; it promotes and encourages international organizations having such ends in view.
The UK background on Europe
Britain as Europe’s rescuer:“A determination to plan for a future beyond victory has helped to sustain the British spirit throughout the war and has produced the spectacle of a nation with its life in peril nevertheless carrying through domestic reforms of unparalleled magnitude” What Britain has done 1939-1945, issued by the Ministry of Information. 1945.
Britain as a global hub:“If you looked at the post-bag of any English village and examined the letters coming in from abroad, ninety per cent would come from way beyond Europe” Anthony Eden, early Fifties.
“Europe remained a speculative venture, all right for other countries, quite unlikely to come to anything, and, in any case, a project that could never dent the immortal verities that sustained the independent British state” Hugo Young, This Blessed Plot, London 1998.
Different perceptions
Pooling of sovereignty expansion of opportunities
limitation of prerogatives
European seat in the UNSC
expansion of opportunities
limitation of prerogatives
European Charter of Fundamental Rights
expansion of opportunities
limitation of prerogatives
European Court of Justice expansion of opportunities
limitation of prerogatives
ITALYUNITED
KINGDOM
I SENT TO THE CLUB A WIRE STATING: PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.
I The Groucho
Marx Syndrome
The bottomline
• Europe is a common endeavour but still based on competition among Nations
• If you want to succeed, you should act as a team
The Italian community in the U.K..
166.853 Italian 166.853 Italian citizenscitizens
• 129.271 London129.271 London• 27.441 Manchester27.441 Manchester• 10.141 Edinburgh 10.141 Edinburgh
¼ ¼ of them double citizensof them double citizens
The Italian Immigration to the U.K.
The way we wereThe way we wereUntil the ’60s the Until the ’60s the
Italian immigrants Italian immigrants worked in:worked in:
• IndustryIndustry• Food sectorFood sector• Construction Construction
worksworks• RailwaysRailways
The way we are
Type of employment of Italian immigrants in the U.K.
Professionals
Workers
Employees
Pensioners
Dependingfamily members
Unemployed
25%
1,7%
20%
8%
15%30%
Who we areWorking in Business and Finance Working in Business and Finance Sectors, Insurances, Services Industry, Sectors, Insurances, Services Industry, Research, and also… Food Industry!Research, and also… Food Industry!
Italy-U.K.Italy-U.K. How we flewHow we flew
Italy-U.K.Italy-U.K.How we flyHow we fly
942 weekly 942 weekly flights!flights!
Commercial Exchange Italy-U.K.Commercial Exchange Italy-U.K.
0
1,000
2,000
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
7,000
8,000
1st Sem.2005
2nd Sem.2005
1st Sem.2006
2nd Sem.2006
1st Sem.2007
2nd Sem.2007
1st Sem.2008
Italian Exports to the U.K. Italian Imports from the U.K.
Trade Balance for Italy
Diplomatic-Consular Networks of
the Ministries of Foreign Affairs
A comparison in Europe (year 2007)
Diplomatic/Diplomatic/consularconsular
networknetwork
StaffStaff BudgetBudget
ITALYITALY 333333 8.6048.604 1.8131.813
FRANCEFRANCE 428428 16.72116.721 2.3522.352
GERMANYGERMANY 357357 12.41812.418 2.8592.859
UNITED UNITED KINGDOMKINGDOM
467467 17.00017.000 2.4422.442
Punching above Punching above its weightits weight
Le nozze con i Le nozze con i fichi secchifichi secchi
A Challenge
The The answer answer is… is…
… … OUTREACH OUTREACH and and
NETWORKING!NETWORKING!
Italian Embassy
London’s “Italian Orchestra”
Embassy of Italy
Consulates
Italian Cultural Institutes
Italian Chamber of Commerce
ENITItalian Trade Commission
Scientific Attaché
Defence Attaché
Bankitalia
Italian Ambassador
Would you like to join the choir ?