Is this true that Invicta lied to us again
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watchdaddy1 Senior Member Master WatchGeek Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SURPRISE,ARIZONA Posts: 2,891 Real Name: WiLlIaM Is this true i found this on the web a response from DD HERE IS DUBUIS DEPRAZ RESPONSE TO HIS EMAIL; Re: Dubois 2021 & Invicta fiasco From: Christopher Becker [email protected] , [email protected] Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 02:17 Dear , Thank you for your e-mail. As a matter of fact, I received a call about this from someone in New Jersey just last week. We are currently investigating what has happened here, and can clearly state the following: 1) Invicta has never purchased a movement or module from Dubois-Depraz. We have had sporadic contact in the past, but to date no movement has ever been supplied to them. 2) The 2021 has been made by the hundreds of thousands, and "opinions" notwithstanding, we have never heard from any customer for this movement regarding the types of problems you have described. After hundreds of thousands, we think we would have by now if there were actually issues. 3) Since Invicta is not a customer of ours, we have no idea if the movements alluded to are in fact genuine DD modules or not. We have seen "duplicates" of our modules in the past (sadly, not bad ones, either), and if they are such, Invicta may very well not even be aware that they are, since they have never had the real thing to compare it to. If they are genuine, we do not know how many hands they passed through before they arrived at Invicta, and what treatment they were subject to. 4) We have contacted Invicta Watch and requested not only their reaction to your e- mail, but also 5-10 samples of cased watches with the modules to determine their origin (see 3) above) and initial sales point (both of which we can do). As you and your members are surely also aware, the casing procedure itself is very delicate and can de-regulate a chronometer-grade movement as well as cause damage to components, such as dials and hands, if done improperly. 5) Obviously, the President of Invicta has not had, nor would he have reason to have had, any "loud conversation" with Dubois-Depraz since he is not even a customer. I would be very surprised if he or anyone from his company publicly blamed DD for something of that nature as claimed; it is not his style as I have known him.
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1) Invicta has never purchased a movement or module from Dubois-Depraz. We have had sporadic contact in the past, but to date no movement has ever been supplied to them. Thank you for your e-mail. As a matter of fact, I received a call about this from someone in New Jersey just last week. Re: Dubois 2021 & Invicta fiasco From: Christopher Becker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SURPRISE,ARIZONA Posts: 2,891 Real Name: WiLlIaM Senior Member Master WatchGeek Is this true
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Is this true
i found this on the web a response from DD HERE IS DUBUIS DEPRAZ RESPONSE
TO HIS EMAIL;
Re: Dubois 2021 & Invicta fiasco
From: Christopher Becker
[email protected], [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 02:17
Dear ,
Thank you for your e-mail. As a matter of fact, I received a call about this from
someone in New Jersey just last week.
We are currently investigating what has happened here, and can clearly state the
following:
1) Invicta has never purchased a movement or module from Dubois-Depraz. We
have had sporadic contact in the past, but to date no movement has ever been
supplied to them.
2) The 2021 has been made by the hundreds of thousands, and "opinions"
notwithstanding, we have never heard from any customer for this movement
regarding the types of problems you have described. After hundreds of thousands,
we think we would have by now if there were actually issues.
3) Since Invicta is not a customer of ours, we have no idea if the movements alluded
to are in fact genuine DD modules or not. We have seen "duplicates" of our modules
in the past (sadly, not bad ones, either), and if they are such, Invicta may very well
not even be aware that they are, since they have never had the real thing to
compare it to. If they are genuine, we do not know how many hands they passed
through before they arrived at Invicta, and what treatment they were subject to.
4) We have contacted Invicta Watch and requested not only their reaction to your e-
mail, but also 5-10 samples of cased watches with the modules to determine their
origin (see 3) above) and initial sales point (both of which we can do). As you and
your members are surely also aware, the casing procedure itself is very delicate and
can de-regulate a chronometer-grade movement as well as cause damage to
components, such as dials and hands, if done improperly.
5) Obviously, the President of Invicta has not had, nor would he have reason to have
had, any "loud conversation" with Dubois-Depraz since he is not even a customer. I
would be very surprised if he or anyone from his company publicly blamed DD for
something of that nature as claimed; it is not his style as I have known him.
Any person making the types of claims you have mentioned in your e-mail should be
advised to be very sure of their information, and the veracity of any information,
before making pejorative public statements, especially on a national network.
You may feel free to post this response on your site, and we appreciate your keeping
us informed of these events.
Kind regards,
Chris Becker
Business Development Manager--Americas
Dubois-Depraz SA
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This has been seen before.Please search all the threads about this issue. We are
awaiting a joint message from DD and Eyal. Please keep an eye open for their
message.
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wow, not quite sure what to think or say about that one. pretty ugly if you ask me
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I havent been spending much time on here so if this HAS been brought up SORRY
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Perhaps look for the entire sub-forum in the Invicta section devoted to issues with the
Speedway Elite?
Closing this and moving to appropriate forum.
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