II Workshop IFAECI

CONICET – CNRS - UBA

Museo de Ciencias Naturales B.Rivadavia

April 25-27 2011

Jorge G. TEZONCONICET

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• 7000 Full time researchers - 42% in

public universities• 2299 Professional technicians• 8700 Doctoral and postdoc

fellows• 1900 Research projects• 150 Research Units 90 % under

co-administration with Universities

Administration Research Units

Agriculture & Veterinary Sciences Biotechnology & Food Sciences Biological Sciences Health Sciences Earth, Astronomy, Social & Humanities Sciences Physics, Chemistry & Materials Sciences Engineering & Architecture , Habitat Mathematics & Computer Sciences

Multidisciplinary centers

Observatories

INSTITUTIONAL NETWORK of CONICET

Some limitations of “local & individual science”

• single disciplines, institutions and jurisdictions • Poor organization : “lack of project management” • High quality standards but poor quality assurance. • ORIGINALITY over INTEGRATION of knowledge.• Individual appropriation of primary data. • Evaluation of projects and its products follows the trend.

• Big science problems are multidisciplinary , multinstitutional and interjurisdictional, conducted and managed. Subjected to rules and contracts and evaluated on a long term.

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Challenges in the process to “big science”

• Evaluation and funding of proposals from the interdiscipline and

problem perpective.

• Leadership “external to discipline” and management by non

scientist experts (?)

• Organizational complexity : complex problems need diversified

groups and lifespan limited to project stages (cooperation-subletting)

• Quality control (include “non pier” validation ?)

• Objective-oriented results over originality

• Contribution to problem solving (data and instruments for problem

comprehension : databases, modelization, prognosis, diagnosis of

environment or social behavior etc)

Some systemic actions on information

• Information preservation and access: A) rules,

agreements, commitments. B) building Information

archives and collections, databases• Central facilites ; Testing platforms, computing

networks (GRID) or supercomputing for simulation

and modeling.• Remote use of facilities in other countries. • Networking

Towards a better diagnosis for international cooperation

……..who sets up the tendencies?

The funded projects are “the tip of the iceberg” of real cooperation : 90 projects per year.

….but 2000 joint publications in ISI journals between CONICET researchers and partners abroad, ………….most without specific funding.

Establishing agendas and priorities for :

• Joint development of scientific field. • Address shared or global problems.• Development of local vacancies or taking

advantage of local opportunities.

Institutions must involve to find the best partners and or convince them to cooperate.

Only reliable partners count.

Establishing agendas and priorities

National Joint Agendas ?

International cooperation pulls integration of local groups and institutions but ……

……………also competition between them

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Univ Calif Davis

Univ Sao Paulo Univ Paris Max Planck

Univ IllinoisCtr Brasileiro Pesquisas Fis

CNRSAlfred Wegener Inst Polar & Marine Res

Cornell UnivUniv Fed Rio

Grande do SulCEA Saclay

Rhein Westfal TH Aachen

Univ TexasUniv Fed Rio de

JaneiroObserv Paris

Univ Munich

SUNY Binghamton

Univ Estadual Campinas

INSERM Univ Tubingen

Which partners? Where to focuse the efforts?

New strategy for intl. cooperation at CONICET

Situation : • Local funding for research (Agencia, CONICET,

Universities, Provinces, Natl Programs )• Many groups internationally competitive.• Need to skip “endogenous growth”.• Opportunities for contribution to big science. • Need to be present in big science projects. • International Cooperation sets higher standards • International cooperation helps to gather local

efforts and resources.

Level of cooperation

Based Joint Planning

JointFunding

Specific infrastructure

Specific Personnel

Joint Evaluation

Intl UNITS Arg. +++++ +++++ ++++++ +++++ +++++

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Some examples : International Units

CONICET CNRS UBA : IFAECI Climate

CONICET CNRS : Computing modeling and simulation.

CONICET Soc Max Planck : Biomedicine

CONICET Univ de Marseille, UNR : Informatics

CONICET-CSIC-Min INNov e INV , MINCyT, UNR : Plant Genomics

Some examples International Associated laboratories : LIAs

• CONICET CNRS UBA : fluid mechanics • CONICET CNRS UBA Molecular vectors • CONICET INSERM UCC : Molecular immunology • CNEA CNRS nanosciences and nanotechnology (UM CONICET CNEA)

Networks or consortia • CONICET NSF several Universities : high atmosphere • CONICET iBOL Bar Code of Life : molecular taxonomy • CNEA USA EU Pierre Auger Observatory (UM CNEA CONICET)

In preparation

• CONICET DFG physical chemistry.• CONICET , CNRS ,Sorbonne Nouvelle -Paris 3 , Paris Ouest -

Nanterre - La Defense UNQ UNGS UNSAM : Constitutional studies • CONICET, UBA, UNC, SAYDS , China, Brazil, France (IRD ?):

Desertification monitoring. • CONICET . INTA Consortium of 24 countries : wheat genetic code• CONICET several Universities : Virtual Astronomy Observatory

• CONICET – CNRS- UBA (others?) IFAECI climate and global change

Proyecto AIRES NSF CONICET Argentina Ionospheric Radar Experimental Station

Puna Region

Arid Valleys Region

Central Region (Cuyo)

Patagonia Region (2 GAAs)

LADA Argentina: desertification assessment

Monitoring Group(Córdoba)

National Coordination (Buenos Aires) Surface 2.791.810 km2

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The UMI is a challenge to integrate not only knowledge and scientists but institutions and

countries

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Modelization in climate research

• Climate scenarios at UMI on High Computing Modelization and Simulation

• Fluid mechanics at LIA• Very complex models at EU large computing facilities.

Opportunities for Regional networking and new partners

Uruguay : extension of FREPLATA project

Chile : •Collaboration with UMI on modellization •Joint projects on high atmosphere chemistry •Joint projects South Atlantic oceanography •Collaboration in glaciers monitoring

Brazil: •Cooperation on desertification assessment •Joint research in Oceanography

“La ciencia no tiene patria , el científico sí”

Bernardo Houssay fundador del CONICET

II Workshop IFAECI CONICET – CNRS - UBA

Museo de Ciencias Naturales B.Rivadavia

April 25-27 2011

Jorge G. TEZONCONICET