ICNDT Keynote June 2010

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ICNDT Activities in the field of NDT

Personnel Certification

Dr Mike Farley

Chairman ICNDT

Director, Doosan Power Systems, UK


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What is ICNDT?

ICNDT is an international not-for-profit organisation registered inVienna

Members are the national NDT Societies around 50 in total

Members elect a Chairman and Executive Committee to manageaffairs and a Policy and General Purposes Committee to advise

on strategy ICNDT chooses the NDT Society/country to run the World

Conference every four years

Shanghai 2008

Durban 2012

ICNDT carries out activities in accordance with a Strategic Plan

developed with its members 50 years since first official meeting 1960 - 2010


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Global challenges for the NDT community structure of lecture

Global challenges

Examples from the energy industries

- illustrate by reference to the activities of Doosan Power Systems

Describe the activities of ICNDTin response to these globalchallenges and give some ofmy views along the way


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Company update

Doosan Power Systems Limited

A subsidiary of Doosan of South Korea, a market leader in the Energy sector

Markets in Europe, America (N+S), South Africa and Asia

HQ in UK; incorporates Doosan Babcock (boilers) and Skoda Power (turbines)

Employs 6000 people (5000 in UK), >1bn business

Major user of NDT in own business, in supply chain and a supplier of high tech NDT andcondition monitoring services to nuclear, power and oil and gas industries

Accreditied NDT laboratory and Inspection Body

Nuclear Thermal Turbine &

Generator

Desalination Casting & Forging Construction


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Global Challenges

Recognition of the importance of NDT

Responding to the globalisation of business

Ensuring quality and reliability of NDT services


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NDT is an overhead activity, often with no perceived added value

Value comes from the avoidance of cost, risk and potential

accidents

Avoid economic and human catastrophe such as Gulf of Mexico

More clearly perceived value when NDT or condition monitoring

is used to permit life extension, or reduction of statutory

outages, or to permit planes to fly

Forth Road Bridge

Nuclear power plants

Fossil Power plants

Volcanic ash cloud overW Europe

Essential role for ICNDT and NDT Societies to

promote NDT


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Global Challenges





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Globalisation of NDT activities

Design, building and operation of plant is globalised

Safety, reliability and availability of plant and machinery

depends on the whole supply chain of companies and

contractors all around the world, each with their own NDT

personnel

Industrial companies procure equipment and materials from

wherever is most cost effective, increasingly from developing

countries, using local NDT services working to the contract

standards

Construction may be by home personnel or by teams from third

countries


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Globalisation of energy projects example coal fired boiler

Customer is USA subsidiary of a German

company

Managing contractor from USA

Boiler design by Doosan Power Systems

in UK, India and China to ASME codes Materials sourced globally, including

Korea, Europe and China

Boiler manufacture in Korea and Vietnam

by Doosan Heavy

Other equipment procured globally Construction by USA team with local NDT

contractor

750MWASCDoosan Babcock

boiler Trimble

County E.ON

USA


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Globalisation of energy projects another example - Nuclear power plant

Customer is UAE

Managing contractor from Korea

Design in Korea, ASME codes

Materials sourced globally, including

Korea, Japan, and China

Primary Circuit manufacture in Korea

Construction under Korean supervision

by crew from Asian countries


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Global Challenges





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Ensuring the quality and reliability of NDT services globally

Research and development

Standards

Procedures

Equipment

Personnel Training

Personnel Certification

Human FactorsAudits and Surveillance


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NDT QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE

PROCEDURES

EQUIPMENT

PERSONNEL

HUMAN

FACTORS

Techniques

Equipment

Accessories

Calibration

Training

QualificationCertification

Codes of Ethics

Codes of Practice

Job Specific

Procedures:

Capability Trials

Proficiency Tests

Job Specific Training

andQualification

Management and

Planning

(Risk based)

Validation

Performance

Demonstration

Inspection

Qualification

e.g. ENIQ, ASME

Surveillance Audit

Certification, e.g.

EN ISO/IEC 17020

Quality System

Certification,

e.g. ISO 9001

Accredited

laboratories acc.

EN ISO/IEC 17025

Accredited

Inspection Bodies

acc.

EN ISO/IEC 17020

Accredited

PERSONNEL

Certification Bodies

acc.

EN ISO/IEC 17024

NDT system Standards Company actions Qualification

Inspection,

Certification,

Notified Bodies

Accreditation

Bodies


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EFNDT Guide to Overall NDT Quality System

Could we write a

similar global

Guide??


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Global Challenges




Activities of ICNDT relating to Certification of

Personnel


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ICNDT focus on Personnel Certification

NDT quality chain very dependent on personnel certification

We need

NDT Certification that we can rely on all around the world

Certificates gained in one country need to be

valid/recognised world-wide

Correct implementation of Third Party certification and In-

company certification(SNT-TC1A)

Harmonisation and mutual recognition of similar Certification

schemes

Look further at the background..


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Company/ Employer

Authorisation to work

EducationTraining

Experience

General theory exam

General practical exam

Specific theory exam

Specific practical exam

Central certification or in

company

Company specifictraining

In company experience

Company specific

theory exam

Company specific

practical exam

Company certification

Overall process described in companys

NDT Quality System (Written practice)

checked/audited by external inspection

authority (eg ASME, or Notified Body)

+

=

Elements of Personnel Certification good practice

Central Certification Based on

ISO9712 or EN473 and ISO17024Accredited

Why several

standards?


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Company/ Employer


EducationTraining

Experience

General theory exam

General practical exam



Central certification

Company specifictraining

In company experience

Company specific

theory exam

Company specific

practical exam

Company certification

Overall process described in companys

NDT Quality System (Written practice)

checked/audited by external inspection

authority (eg ASME, or Notified Body)

Based on ISO9712/

ISO17024

Accredited/Approved ?

Allows mutual recognition

+

Supplementary

Sector specific

requirements

+


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Company/ Employer


TrainingExperience

Company specific trainingIn company experience



+

Background

Education

+

General theory

exam

General practicalexam

Specific theory

exam

Specific practical

exam

+

=

Central Certification Based on

ISO9712 or EN473 and ISO17024

Accredited

Why several

standards?


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Conclusions Lots of detail differences beween these standards but few of

great significance

Many ought to be resolvable by discussion and compromise

None would any prevent mutual recognition

Conclusions advised to ISO and CEN

Support jointWorking Group of ISO and CEN - done

ICNDT to seek liaison membership of TC135 - done

ICNDTWorkshop on Harmonisation of Certification to ISO 9712,

EN473 and aligned standards Shanghai 2008


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ISO/CEN JointWorking Group on harmonisation of EN473

and ISO 9712

Excellent progress

key differences between the standards analysed, experts

discussed how these can be resolved in a harmonised

standard.

None of the differences were considered sufficiently

important to prevent mutual recognition

In the meantime, the JWG declared

Notwithstanding the detail differences between the present

versions of ISO9712 and EN473, the competence of NDT

personnel certified according to these standards is

considered effectively equivalent.

It is the employers responsibility, prior to issue of theauthorisation to work, to check that an individuals

certification (EN473 or ISO 9712) and any additional

employer-administered job-specific training and examination

are adequate for the NDT tasks to be executed.


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Published 1 March 2009

www.icndt.org


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Complementary activities of ICNDT

Develop global Mutual Recognition Agreement

ICNDT Approval scheme for certification bodies to

complement accreditation

Common global question bank

These are proposed activities of ICNDT Working Group 1,

included in the draft Strategic Plan, but subject to

discussion at the ICNDT GeneralAssembly in Moscow in

June


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EFNDT Mutual Recognition Agreement

Original ICNDT Guidelines included a model agreement for mutualrecognition

Some bilateral agreements

European (EFNDT) Mutual Recognition Agreement signed October1994 in Nice

29 countries recognise 18 schemes

Opened to Certification Bodies outside Europe

Takes advantage of accreditation but can substitute own independent audit ifnecessary

Details on www.efndt.org


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Results

NDT Society response rate: 60%

% of respondents indicating that the ICNDT member

provides an NDT Personnel Certification Scheme:

71%

% of those answering Yes to A whose scheme satisfies

either EN473 or ISO9712:

100%

% of those answering Yes to A whose scheme satisfies

ISO/IEC 17024:

96%

% of those answering Yes to A whose scheme is

accredited:

60%

% of those answering Yes to A that would participate in

an ICNDT Global MLA:

96%

% of those answering Yes to A that would consider

ICNDT approval as an alternative, or in addition to,

accreditation:

85%


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Survey of ICNDT Membership

60% response

71% of respondents were ICNDT members who operate ISO9712

schemes and comply with ISO17024 (60% so accredited)

96% would participate in a ICNDT Global MLA

85% would consider ICNDT approval of Certification Bodies as

an addition or alternative to accreditation


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Congratulations to RSNTTD on

organising the 10th ECNDT

June 2010

Thank you for your kind attention and

ICNDT Keynote June 2010

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