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    Hi,

    IjuststartedpracticingforthecsandmyhistorytakingisverydisorganizedwithalotofpausesduringtheinterviewbecauseIhavetothink.Ittakesmewaymorethantherecommended6to7mins.IwashopingsomebodycouldhelpmeoutwithstandardquestionsthatmustbeaskedandhowtoaskquestionsrelevanttotheCCinasystematicwaysonothingwillbemissed.Thanks.

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    Ihadthesameprobleminitially.Thekeyistousemnemonic.ThisishowIproceed:

    1Normalintroductionprotocol(yourname,his/hername,greeting,draping,"Hello","Everythingcomfortable?",Explainwhatyouaregoingtodo,"MayIsitdownandtakesomenotes?"

    2PresentIllnessLIQOPRAAA{Justdigin,askin/outaboutthepresentproblem}

    3ROSAskscreeningquestionsforthesystems.Startwiththemostrelevant,andyoucanskipthelessimportantones.

    4PAMHITSFOSS(AlthoughIusemyownextendedmnemonicforsocial)

    5Summarize

    6Washhands/weargloves+askconcerns.

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    7P/EAskanyquestionsyoumissedduringthehistory

    8Counsel

    9Getout!

    Dontforgettousetransitionsentences."NowIamgoingtoaskaboutSocialhistory"etc

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    Thanksalotsmashingdude.Iwilltrythat.

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    Ihaveanotherquestion.IhavetowritedowneverythingtheptsaysbecauseIdon'ttrustmymemorywhenIgetnervous,anxiousandstressed.I'vebeenwritingdownallthesymptomsI'maskingandwriting"yes"or"no"basedonthept'sresponse.ThatobviouslytakesmoretimeandagainleadstoalotofsilenceasI'mwriting.ShouldItrainmyselfonlytowritedownthe"yes"answersandassumewhatIdidn'twriteisa"No"?

    Thanks.

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    OriginallyPostedbyifssIhaveanotherquestion.IhavetowritedowneverythingtheptsaysbecauseIdon'ttrustmymemorywhenIgetnervous,anxiousandstressed.I'vebeenwritingdownallthesymptomsI'maskingandwriting"yes"or"no"basedonthept'sresponse.ThatobviouslytakesmoretimeandagainleadstoalotofsilenceasI'mwriting.ShouldItrainmyselfonlytowritedownthe"yes"answersandassumewhatIdidn'twriteisa"No"?

    Thanks.

    Iknowthetimeconstraintswhenwritingdown.Havethesameproblem.ThatswhyIhavedevelopedmyownabbreviations,andthenjustcrossthemoutiftheanswerisno.

    Eg,IfirstwritedownLIQOPRAA,andthennexttoeachwritetheappropriatethingthatthepatientsaid.Then,inreviewofsystem,Ijustuseabbreviations(egN/Vfornausea/vomiting,Hdforheadache,W/Nforweakness/numbess,D/Cfordiarhea/constipation,ChP/Dysforchestpain,Dyspneaetc).Ijustaskthem,andifrelevant,Iwritethemdown,otherwisejustcrossthem.SameinPAMHITSFOSS.Justcrossthemifirrelevant(egparentsarehealthy,justcrossF).Ifrelevant,egFatherdiedofMI,writenexttoF.

    Butuseyourownabbreviations!!!ThisiswhatIamdoingnow.Makeabbreviationsforeverything,andsticktoit.Itsforyourunderstandinganyway,soitcanverywellbesymbols,letters,shapesorwhateversuitsyou.

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