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    The Stone

    How Does Islam Relate to Christianity andJudaism?

    By Gary Gutting

    September 25, 2014 7:00 pm

    The Stone is a forum for contemporary philosophers and other thinkers on issues bothtimely and timeless.

    This is the 11th in a series of interviews about religion that I am

    conducting for The Stone. The interviewee for this installment is Sajjad

    Rizvi, a professor of Arab and Islamic studies at the University of Exeter

    and the author of Mulla Sadra and the Later Islamic Philosophical

    Tradition.

    Gary Gutting: How do you see Islam in relation to the other major

    Abrahamic religions, Christianity and Judaism? Should we think of them as

    (for example) rivals, or as complementary developments of monotheism, or

    as different cultural expressions of an essentially similar religious

    experience?

    Sajjad Rizvi: The very notion of Abrahamic religions is arguably

    Islamic. The Quran presents Abraham as an adherent of Islam, but here

    Islam means the primordial faith that connects humanity to one God and

    leads in turn to Judaism, Christianity and then historical Islam as

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    proclaimed by Muhammad. There are some who view Islam as a faith that

    supersedes the two earlier monotheistic religions. But I think its more

    useful to understand Islam as a religion that is self-conscious about its

    relationship to Judaism and Christianity and explicitly takes account of their

    scriptures and traditions. Almost all the prophets of the Quran will be

    familiar to those who know the Bible, and the Quran explicitly refers to

    parables, ideas and stories from the Bible.

    The common roots and inheritances of the three faiths make it

    useful for us to think seriously in terms of a Judeo-Christian-Islamic

    civilization and heritage that we all share. The development of philosophy in

    Islam also shows a common tradition of rationality. Anyone with a basic

    understanding of the categories of Aristotles thought employed by Christian

    and Jewish thinkers would find many of the arguments of Islamic

    philosophers and theologians familiar. The great Islamic philosopher

    Avicenna (10th-11th century) developed a metaphysical notion of God that

    had a tremendous impact on the Latin west: the idea that God is the

    necessary being required to explain the existence of every contingent being.

    G.G.: But even given these deep similarities, doesnt Islam claim that

    the other two faiths are, if not entirely false, still not the full truth that Islam

    is?

    S.R.: Ultimately, the Islamic reflection on the other two faiths

    considers them to be earlier versions and revelations of the same truth even

    if the long history from their sacral origins might have diluted their

    understanding. The Quran itself engages in a polemic with some of those

    communities often precisely because of the exclusive claims that they madeabout salvation. The Quran tends to insist upon Gods final decision (to

    which we, of course, are not privy) against the presumptions of theologians.

    The fundamental distinctions in the scripture are between monotheistic

    believers, imperfect monotheists and others: Jewish and Christian

    communities were considered often to be in the second category. Some

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    theologians would consider them to be paler reflections of their original

    revelation and some say that their scriptures have been corrupted. But we

    should not lose sight of how the Islamic tradition itself often refers back to

    the earlier Jewish and Christian scriptures and prophets to make sense of

    the mission of Muhammad.

    G.G.: What about the fundamental question of salvation do you go to

    heaven or go to hell? Does Islam say as Christianity often has that you

    cant be saved if you dont accept it? Or can, for example, Christians be

    saved?

    S.R.: It depends on whom one reads. Theres a whole range of opinions.

    The early scriptural traditions (especially in the Quran itself) are quite clearthat success in the afterlife everlasting life in paradise in the presence of

    God is not exclusive to those who define themselves as Muslims in the

    historical sense. Belief in God and the afterlife and performing good deeds

    are the only conditions of success. Later theological traditions have

    complicated matters, but even then a tradition developed of considering

    punishment in hellfire to be not eternal, so that ultimately everyone will be

    embraced by Gods mercy.

    G.G:Christianity and Islam are both religions that originated in

    specific cultural contexts but have developed into world religions, practiced

    by people in a wide variety of cultures. How would you compare or contrast

    their development in this regard?

    S.R.: Christianity and Islam share the paradox of being religions that

    claim to be universal, while retaining particular dogmas and practices that

    are exclusive to them. There were times when pursuit of world empire led

    both religions to more universal claims. Their trajectories seem similar a

    small, persecuted faith that acquired an imperial form and expression that

    led to its dominance across the world. Here both used orthodoxy to bolster

    the authority of the empire, and defined heterodoxy to deal with political

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    dissent. One of the main differences that has always struck me concerns how

    orthodoxy was shaped and implemented. On the whole the Muslim world

    did not have the same mechanisms of central control councils, creeds and

    inquisitions to enforce matters. They sometimes tried to set up such

    mechanisms, but always failed. When people raise the problem of a crisis of

    authority in the Muslim world, they forget that this is not just a situation

    that arose in modernity. What is interesting, however, is that each of the two

    faiths has significant internal divisions on matters of political theology.

    G.G.: What about the division we hear so much about in the news,

    between Shias and Sunnis. Could you say a bit about that?

    S.R.: Shia Islam is a religious tradition in which it is precisely thepresence of the divine through the Imam the successor to Muhammad in

    his bloodline that provides not only the foundations for authority and

    sovereignty in human communities of belief, but also the path to salvation.

    The everlasting and indeed ever-revealing countenance of the divine

    mentioned in the Quran (28:88, for example) is glossed in the tradition as

    the person of the Imam. The Imam is not the defender of the Law; he is the

    Law he is not the exegete of scripture, he is revelation itself. Through the

    person of the Imam, the transcendent divine, the origin and the true King, is

    manifest; and believers follow the path to salvation through their devotion

    and obedience to the Imam. In fact, from early on, Islam seems to have held

    that believers afterlife depends on their allegiance to their community. In

    this sense, Shia is a normative political theology, concerned with the relation

    of political authority and salvation. The comparison with Christ Pantocrator

    and the person of the emperor in Eastern Orthodox Christianity is rather

    striking.

    G.G.: How does this compare with the Sunni traditions?

    S.R.: In contrast to the Sunni, the Shia traditions in Islam have a more

    absolute notion of the political-theological significance of both sacred

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    are strongly held and this is clear even in Europe and North America. But

    if one has the rule of law and political stability, that negativity to the other

    may manifest itself in hate speech but rarely in violence.

    G.G.: Youve presented what many of our readers may see as a quitemoderate and enlightened version of Islam. But arent you ignoring

    fundamentalist versions of the religion that today are very powerful and

    directly opposed to liberal values? Im thinking, for example, of their

    treatment of women, their demand for Islamic states, and their use of

    violence to achieve religious goals. Do you think there is a need for a

    reformed Islam that will decisively reject such fundamentalist views?

    S.R.: In many ways we live in an age of fundamentalisms and this istrue not just of religious communities. That, coupled with the weakness of

    traditional scholarly institutions in many Muslim communities, has led to

    uncertainty about who speaks for the faith and whether anyone can speak

    definitively for the faith. I have a problem with applying to Islam the

    standard European account of progress as a process in which conflict with

    secular thought leads to reform, intellectual enlightenment, and finally the

    redefinition of faith in terms of beliefs divorced from any communal

    expression.

    What I would argue for is not necessarily reform I have serious

    reservations about most reformist agendas as well as forms of neo-

    traditionalism but rather for a more open debate about the simple acts of

    reading texts in multiple ways. We need to understand how we might read

    traditional texts in ways that make sense of our faith for the contexts in

    which we now live. This is not radical reform, but it is an attempt to keep thedialogue within traditions alive and dynamic across space and time. It is a

    particular strength of Islam that its intellectual traditions of philosophical

    theology and spirituality emphasize such dialogue.

    G.G.: How do you, as a Muslim, respond to the atheistic claim that, in

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    our age of science, theres no rational basis for accepting theism?

    S.R.: I reject the atheistic claim, since I dont believe in a God of gaps

    and I dont think Islamic intellectual traditions pit science against religion.

    In those traditions, arguments for the existence of God were not based onscientific observations, but rather on the simple intuition that we cannot

    reduce everything that we can say about ourselves and about our world to

    the physical. Atheists may not find arguments for the existence of God

    compelling, but the arguments at least allow believers to fit their faith in

    God into a rationally coherent framework. This is why reflection on

    existence to provide a rational case for believing in God has been a critical

    element of most Muslim theological traditions.

    Alongside those strong traditions of rationality, there have also been

    fideistic tendencies as well as more experiential responses. What are we to

    make of the cultural artifacts of our religious civilizations, of the art, poetry,

    music and expressions of the self, rooted in an enchantment with some

    ultimate reality that remains intangible and unscientific? The argument

    from contingency mentioned above is still one that I think gives a rational

    account that is coherent. But I also recognize that we are not all rational

    agents who approach our reality in a purely logical way at all times.

    This interview was conducted by email and edited. All interviews from

    this series can be read here.

    Gary Gutting is a professor of philosophy at the University of Notre

    Dame, and an editor of Notre Dame Philosophical Reviews. He is the

    author of, most recently, Thinking the Impossible: French Philosophy

    since 1960, and writes regularly for The Stone.

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