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Houndsman Spotlight By, Jim Lane
An “in-depth” Beagler Interview is an open ended, discovery oriented method to obtain detailed information
about a Beagler, his hounds and beagling in general. Our goal is to explore “in-depth” a respondent’s point
of view, experiences, feelings, perspectives and get relevant answers to questions that people really want to
know within the sport of Beagling …
Enjoy the 12 Take Spotlight Interview of: Larry Perry
Name: Larry Perry Home Town: Branchland, West Virginia
Phone: 304-778-7217 Kennel Name: Perry’s Kennels
Bloodlines: Mt. Zion Pete
1) When did you get introduced to the sport of Beagling and what were the circumstances surrounding that?
“In the 1940’s, our family as far back as I can remember had dogs. Back then we had grade dogs, part beagle
and part fox hound also part beagle and part feist.”
2) Once you decided to pursue Beagling, who “personally” influenced you within the sport of Beagling the most?
“The beagler who influenced me back then was Kermin Bryant, he ran a little different style dog than I have
today, but they were good dogs. Some of Kermin’s blood line were in the foundation of the Gay Hounds of
Frank Reese’s kennel.”
3) What were the “foundation” dogs of your kennel and exactly why did you choose them.
“The Foundation dogs of my current dogs and kennel were Deep Creek Jake and
Clover Field Ginger. Jake was one of the smoothest running dogs I have ever
seen, and Ginger was the hardest hunting dog I have ever seen… no exceptions!
Ginger also had a big nose. I liked the “Dingus MacRae” dogs for their hunt. I
have held to the Mt. Zion Pete bloodline as I liked their running style and their
great running ability!”
4) What is the average size of your hounds, speed and general hunting style?
“The size of my dogs range from 13” to 15”. They are very aggressive with
extreme hunt. Speed is not a big concern, as I expect them to go as fast as their
nose and brains will allow them to, they are expected to do it right. They
generally are between a 7 & 9, on my scale of 1-10.
5) What is your process/method and reasoning behind choosing “keeper” pups?
“My #1 reason for keeping a pup is it’s aggressiveness in hunting and in its overall personality. Sex,
intelligence, nose, speed, and size also play a role in determining what pups I keep.”
6) Explain your training techniques and the methods you use to start, train and develop your hounds.
“At around 6 months old I begin taking my pups with an older dog that is slower so that the pups can get a lot
of work. When I get a sense that they are well started I begin soloing the pups to see their individual traits”
7) What are the top 5 characteristics and traits that you expect and demand from your hounds?
“1- Of course is extreme hunt. I demand lots of hunt in my dogs! If a
dog won’t hunt it is useless! 2- Nose, I like a really big nose on dogs. I
don’t want to hole rabbits on top of the ground. 3- Brains, Dogs are
like people some are smarter than others. I like dogs that know where
to look for rabbits and which way to go once they have jumped. 4-
Stamina I like a really tough hound one that can run all day regardless
of weather and terrain, and do it day after day. 5- Behavior dogs that
do not bark, fight, etc. in the kennel.”
8) What would you say your hound’s greatest “strengths” are and
if you could wave a magic wand and add to, take away or change any
one particular thing within your hounds, what would it be.
“My dog’s greatest strengths are their desire to hunt. The one thing to
add to my dogs to compliment their great hunt, is a really big nose
and the ability to use it the right way.”
9) What was the absolute best male and female that you have ever “personally” seen run?
“Deep Creek Jake was the smoothest dog with the speed he ran. Clover field Ginger was the best hunting
female I ever saw. ”
Pedigree of Jake:
FC Indian Hills Majer
Little Rowdy VI
Playfair Cadet CH Confer's Speck Of Dynamite
Showfield Winkie
Wells Vickey Famous Amos VII
Doolan's Princess
FC New City Crystal
Lord Buckingham VI Bell Mouth Tony
Allmand's Fancy Girl
New City Tammy Oxcreek Rex
Northwood's Blackie
Donna Ray Macrae
FC Dingus Macrae
FC Lar-May Huntmaster IFC Lar-May Toastmaster
High Peak Babbling Pebbles
IFC Cunningham's Annie IFC Wally of Floline
IFC Cunningham's Janie
Gibson's Hustling Peggy Jane
Galen Pates Boogie FC Pate's Creek Limbo
Pate's Reba
Clifty Creek Boots FC Pryor's Tony
Caney Fork Red Head
Pedigree of Ginger:
Indian Hills Tonto
FC Indian Hills Majer
Little Rowdy VI Playfair Cadet
Wells Vickey
FC New City Crystal Lord Buckingham VI
New City Tammy
Julie's Hustling Sally Mae
FC Dingus Macrae FC Lar-May Huntmaster
IFC Cunningham's Annie
Gibson's Hustling Peggy Jane Galen Pates Boogie
Clifty Creek Boots
Roys Midnight Suzie
FC Andy's Clover Patches
Black Diamond Rudy Smith Black Oak
Terry's Smokey Mountain Patty
Eversons Patches Coldwater Billy Jack
Miss Mickey
Carrolls White Lady
FC Indian Hills Majer Little Rowdy VI
FC New City Crystal
Carroll S Bonnie Blue Damron Colonel Redman
King Jacks Little Queen
10) Who is/was the most knowledgeable trainer/handler and the most knowledgeable breeder that you have ever
known?
“Mr. Kermin Bryant”
11) If you had to start over today with a total different bloodline, what bloodline would you choose and why?
“To start over with a different bloodline would be very difficult for me I have refined my lines for 40+ years
and I really love my dogs. If I had to start over with different lines I would like to have some of the very old
yellow creek dogs or some of the very old fish creek dogs. I think that these dogs would most fit the criteria of
what I look for in a dog.”
12) What is your advice to the individual that is just beginning their journey in the sport of beagling?
“To young beaglers I would say try to watch as many dogs run as possible. Then figure out exactly what YOU
want in a dog and go out and get it. Then try to improve upon them with selective breeding. I would also urge
people not to get caught up in the “trends” go with a line of dogs that have stood the test of time the dogs
that are the same day after day every time you take them out.”
More concerning FC Dingus Macrae, IFC MT Zion Pete and the bloodline that Larry Perry’s hounds derived from…
The Dingus Macrae story begins in May of
1973 when Lewis & Sandra Wormuth took
their female; IFC Cunningham's Annie to
breed to a very potent stud that was a
proven producer, which was Homer
Larmay’s 2006 Better Beagling HOF
Inductee, FC Lar-May Huntmaster. On July
25, 1973 Dingus Macrae was whelped along with Catskill Mountain Darby and Juniper Swamp Tess. This “cross” was so
successful it was repeated in November of 1974. On January 20, 1975 the second cross was whelped and included Dutch
Fork Huntmaster, Hatfield's Prissy, Juniper Swamp Poly and 1980 Better Beagling Award 13" Bitch, IFC Hunter's Little
Annie.
FC Lar-May Huntmaster was from a long line of Homer Larmay favorites. It included dogs such as IFC Lar-May
Toastmaster, IFC MT Zion Pete, FTCH Model Swampy Toastie II, IFC Lehigh Abe and 4 crosses of FC Dagwood's Labaan in
4 generations. Most all of these dogs went back to Yellow Creek, but a particular dog was FC Trigger XVIII. Trigger was a
favorite of Mr. Larmay and was used many times. He went back to Sutton’s and Sheik of Shady Shores breeding.
A look at Lar-May Huntmaster’s {Dingus’ Sire} pedigree:
IFC Lar-May Toastmaster
IFC MT Zion Pete
FC Dagwood's Labaan FC Trigger XVIII
Dewey Lake Clipper
FC Baronet Darkness FC Dark Knight Butch
Baronet Belle
FTCH Model Swampy Toastie II
IFC Lehigh Abe FC Concord Sindy
FC Yellow Creek Abigail
Model Swampy Floreen IFC Pleasant Run Diplomat
FC Model Swampy Toastie
High Peak Babbling Pebbles
Rekkabed's Danny
FC Dagwood's Labaan FC Trigger XVIII
Dewey Lake Clipper
Don's Little Lady IV FC Dagwood's Labaan
Pewabic Hot Penny
Ed's Suzette
FC Horner's Happy Tone Buck FC Happy Tone Buck
Happy Tone Tot
Clyde's Miss Midge FC Dagwood's Labaan
Jim's Floa
IFC Cunningham's Annie & her littermate IFC J-Wal of Roxline were out of IFC Wally of Floline and Cunningham's Janie,
which was out of a host of dogs that derived from Yellow Creek and Fish Creek, dogs like Fish Creek Andy, Fish Creek
Butch and leading back to Fish Creek Farmer who also derived from Yellow Creek.
A look at Cunningham's Annie’s {Dingus’ Dam} pedigree:
IFC Wally of Floline
IFC Mon Chien Wally
FC Katmir's High Speed Billy FC Concord Spot II
Dot's Chin Chopper
FC Mon Chien Pat FC Pastime Playful
Orchard Farm Streak
IFC La Reine Des Bois
FC Flat Shoal's Buck FC Fish Creek Andy
Pine Hill Polly
Windy Hill Lassie FC Ohio Diamond
FC Swingalong Lassie
IFC Cunningham's Janie
Otsdawa's Mohawk
IFC Bealwood Mister Clipper FC Shaw's Clipper
FC Hayes' Hi Queen
Otsdawa's Sandra Otsdawa's Smokey Joe
Otsdawa's Two Spot
Otsdawa Stormie
FC Fish Creek Andy FC Bear Creek Baldy
FC Hunter's Pollyann
Fish Creek Duchess FC Fish Creek Butch
Tinker Girl
Dingus Macrae was acquired by Bob Nicoll of Scotia, New York. Mr. Nicoll campaigned Dingus with great success. Over
the years many trialers and breeders from many different formats have campaigned their dogs and have placed stud ads
offering to the general public an opportunity to partake of a their male that “proudly” finished their championship.
However, as great as that achievement was, very few could compare to the accomplishments of Dingus Macrae. Where
some hounds take 30, 40, 50 and even up to 70 trials or more to achieve their Field Champion status,
Dingus Macrae was only entered in 14 Large Pack trials in 14 months. He placed in every trial that he was entered in and
finished 1st place 6 times. He was a Field Champion at the age of 3 yrs and 1 month. Dingus was a 13” well balanced and
solid rabbit dog that was trained on cottontail but was trialed on hare. Those that ran against him in trials nicknamed
him “The rabbit machine they couldn’t stop” and the judges that judged him also nicknamed him “Mr. Consistency”.
Soon after he achieved “Field Champion” status, Dingus’ owner Bob Nicoll was asked the question “will Dingus produce
good hounds?” Bob Nicoll answered; “Only time will answer that question, and over the years that has been the name of
the game. With a trial record second to none and some of the greatest producing strains in Large Pack history behind
him, there is ample reason to bet on the future of Dingus as a producer.” And for those that did indeed “bet on the
future of Dingus”, it paid off. Dingus was bred over 50 times producing dogs such as; FC Maggie M III, FTCH Wabasso
Sherri Lou, FTCH Mitches Roy Of Stratford, FTCH Branko's Close Call Girl, FTCH Branko's White Blizzard, FC Cane Country
Jennie, FC Smokey Macrae, FC Perch River Little Colonel, FC Bungalow Hill Gert, FC Dygert's Duke, FC Dingus' Big Shot, FC
Macrae Little Pete… just to name a few. Dingus Macrae was used to establish the very foundation of many beagle
kennels, and is still the main focus and backbone of many breeders today. Dingus was “known” for his jumping ability,
extreme hunt and “grit”. But Dingus became “legendary” by being a consistent reproducer of these traits in his offspring.
Mr. Perry has enjoyed the trickling effect of the consistency of the reproducing power that stemmed from Homer
Larmay’s best for many years. When Clover Field Ginger was bred to FC Macrae Little Pete they produced “Perrys Sam”,
who produced FC Chapman’s Hunter… and the list goes on and on.
Pedigree of Sam:
FC Macrae Little Pete
FC Dingus Macrae
FC Lar-May Huntmaster IFC Lar-May Toastmaster
High Peak Babbling Pebbles
IFC Cunningham's Annie IFC Wally of Floline
IFC Cunningham's Janie
New City Perkin Panda
New City Bear CH Valar's Gruesome Grizz
New City Lonesome Lisa
New City Perkin Sandy Homer Bill
Princes-Angie
Cloverfield Ginger
Indian Hills Tonto
FC Indian Hills Majer Little Rowdy VI
FC New City Crystal
Julie's Hustling Sally Mae FC Dingus Macrae
Gibson's Hustling Peggy Jane
Roys Midnight Suzie
FC Andy's Clover Patches Black Diamond Rudy
Eversons Patches
Carrolls White Lady FC Indian Hills Majer
Carroll S Bonnie Blue
From FC Trigger XVIII to FC Dagwood's Labaan to IFC MT Zion Pete to IFC Lar-May Toastmaster to FC Lar-May
Huntmaster to FC Dingus Macrae to FC Macrae Little Pete to Perrys Sam to FC Chapman’s Hunter… an example of a
complete model of consistency from Sire to son over and over again for 8 generations, within this particular cross.
However, Mr. Perry has several branches {selective crosses} of this tree all going back to Trigger, Labaan, Pete… etc.