HORNBECK v SALAZAR - TRANSCRIPT OF ORLY TAITZ 5-11-11 Hearing

8/6/2019 HORNBECK v SALAZAR - TRANSCRIPT OF ORLY TAITZ 5-11-11 Hearing

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

EASTERN DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA

HORNBECK OFFSHORE SERVICES, * Civil ActionL.L.C., * No. 10-1663

*Plaintiff, * Section F(2)

*v. * New Orleans, Louisiana

* May 11, 2011KENNETH L. SALAZAR, ET AL, *

*Defendants. *

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MOTION TO INTERVENE,BEFORE THE HONORABLE JOSEPH C. WILKINSON, JR.,

UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE

APPEARANCES:

For the Plaintiff: Jones Walker

By: CARL D. ROSENBLUM, ESQ.Place St. Charles201 St. Charles AvenueSuite 5100New Orleans, Louisiana 70170

For the Defendant: U.S. Attorneys OfficeBy: PETER M. MANSFIELD, ESQ.Hale Boggs Federal Building500 Poydras Street, Room 210

New Orleans, Louisiana 70130

For the Intervenor, By: DR. ORLY TAITZ, ESQ.Dr. Orly Taitz: 29839 Santa Margarita Parkway

Suite 100Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688


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APPEARANCES (Contd.):

Court Audio Operator: Cindy Usner

Transcriptionist: Sherryl Robinsonc/o U.S. District Court500 Poydras Street, Room C151New Orleans, Louisiana 70130(504) 589-7721

Proceedings recorded by electronic sound recording,

transcript produced by transcription service.


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P R O C E E D I N G S1

(Wednesday, May 11, 2011)2

(Call to Order of the Court)3

THE COURT: Good morning. Be seated, please.4

(All Counsel respond, Good morning, Your Honor.)5

THE COURT: Lets see ladies and gentlemen, the first6

case that Im going to call is Hornbeck v. Salazar , and the7

reason Im calling it is because my staff tells me that8

Dr. Taitz who is the proposed Intervenor has appeared and come9

all the way in from California.10

DR. TAITZ: Yes, sir.11

THE COURT: So, despite the fact that there was no12

oral argument scheduled, Dr. Taitz --13

Taitz?14

MS. TAITZ: Yes, sir.15

THE COURT: Since you came all the way from16

California, I had my staff call the local lawyers for the other17

parties, let them know you were here, and tell them that I18

intended to let you have your say.19

MS. TAITZ: I greatly appreciate it, Your Honor.20

THE COURT: In the future though, I have to tell you21

that you need to study the local rules and comply with them.22

MS. TAITZ: Yes, sir.23

THE COURT: I also --24

Step up anybody who is here for this. Well do this25


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first. Make your appearances.1

And I also just received, a few minutes ago, your2

Motion for Leave to file a reply memo, which I intend to sign.3

But in perfect candor, I havent read it yet.4

DR. TAITZ: All right.5

THE COURT: So, Im going to let you have your say.6

Im not going to rule on the motion orally, as I ordinarily7

might, and then Im going to read it when I finish.8

MS. TAITZ: Thank you, Your Honor.9

THE COURT: And then Ill issue a written ruling10

later, okay?11

MS. TAITZ: Okay.12

THE COURT: So, why dont you formally make your13

appearances for the record.14

For the Intervenor, we have the proposed Intervenor.15

MS. TAITZ: Im Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire, and I am the16

proposed Intervenor.17

THE COURT: All right.18

MR. ROSENBLUM: Good morning Your Honor, Carl19

Rosenblum on behalf of the Plaintiffs.20

THE COURT: Good morning.21

MR. MANSFIELD: Good morning Your Honor, Peter22

Mansfield with the U.S. Attorneys Office, here on behalf of23

Defendants, all the Federal Defendants, including Secretary24

Salazar.25


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THE COURT: All right, thank you.1

MR. MANSFIELD: Thank you, Your Honor.2

THE COURT: All right, Dr. Taitz, proceed.3

DR. TAITZ: Thank you, Your Honor.4

And I have enlarged exhibits. I have enlarged5

exhibits so you would be able to see them. I have filed this6

Motion to Intervene because what I have found out that the7

Hornbeck case is much more than a case of moratorium on deep8

water drilling.9

What Ive found out that this is a case where the10

administration, the federal government, have been impeding --11

(Cell phone ringing in courtroom.)12

I greatly apologize. Im sorry.13

(Pause.)14

THE COURT: If any of you have cell phones, please15

turn them off.16

UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Isnt that a local rule?17

DR. TAITZ: -- have been impeding the efforts of the18

oil and drill -- gas and oil industry in the Gulf of Mexico,19

which caused significant loss of jobs and significant damage to20

the economy of the region.21

I have seen similar actions in other regions of the22

United States and specifically in the State of California,23

where I reside, where I am a taxpayer that were similar, I24

would say attacks, on the economy of the region. I am an25


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attorney who developed an expertise on the issue of1

Constitutional eligibility. I have been prosecuting this2

matter for the last nearly three years in a number of legal3

actions, and just a week ago I had a hearing in the Ninth4

Circuit Court of Appeals on a similar issue.5

And what I have found is that --6

THE COURT: So Dr. Taitz, you have other cases7

pending, not just one? My understanding from reading your8

papers was you had one in the Central District of California.9

DR. TAITZ: Its in the Ninth Circuit Court of10

Appeals.11

THE COURT: Right.12

DR. TAITZ: I was granted an oral hearing --13

THE COURT: Uh-huh.14

DR. TAITZ: -- which was conducted on May the 2 nd .15

THE COURT: Okay, but my point is that you have other16

cases raising this issue, the Presidents citizenship and other17

cases around the country?18

DR. TAITZ: Eligibility. I have, well, one case in19

California which is currently at the level of the Ninth Circuit20

Court of Appeals.21

THE COURT: Okay, all right. Go ahead.22

DR. TAITZ: And what I was able to find, and I wanted23

to show Your Honor.24



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THE COURT: Did I understand you to say that you had1

oral argument in the Ninth Circuit last week?2

DR. TAITZ: Yes, yes. They were --3

THE COURT: What, last week?4

DR. TAITZ: They were on May the 2 nd , yes.5

THE COURT: Did you present all of this? Was that6

before or after he posted his birth certificate on the7

Internet?8

DR. TAITZ: It was right after, however --9

THE COURT: Did you present all of this to the Ninth10

Circuit?11

DR. TAITZ: I didnt -- I did not have any affidavits12

from experts, because it was just released, and I wasnt able13

to get any affidavits from experts yet.14

THE COURT: All right. Go ahead.15

DR. TAITZ: Additionally, the Ninth Circuit hearing16

dealt with a decision by the district judge that was made17

earlier, and so I could only talk about the issues that were18

relevant to prior decision.19

And what I have found, this is actually --20

THE COURT: What did the district judge do?21

DR. TAITZ: Well, its really interesting.22

Originally, the district judge stated that this case --23

THE COURT: Just tell me in one word.24

DR. TAITZ: Well, originally he said that its going25


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to be heard on the merits. And then Mr. Obama placed one of1

his defense attorneys as his clerk and he changed his mind and2

he said that he no longer has jurisdiction, and he dismissed3

the case.4

THE COURT: Okay. So, he dismissed the case?5

DR. TAITZ: He dismissed the case as to --6

THE COURT: For lack of jurisdiction?7


DR. TAITZ: What? Is that my phone?9

THE COURT: Dr. Taitz, you have got to turn that10

thing off.11

DR. TAITZ: Yes, I thought I did.12


DR. TAITZ: She dismissed the case for lack of14

jurisdiction and thats why I feel that its so important for15

this case to be heard. I believe that this is the most16

important case we have today, and most important case in the17

history of this nation, because we have --18

THE COURT: This is a federal court, just like that19

one.20

DR. TAITZ: Yes.21

THE COURT: Dont you think that if the Ninth Circuit22

finds there is no jurisdiction, that I wont have any23

jurisdiction either?24

DR. TAITZ: Well, actually the Ninth Circuit dealt25


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with a slightly different case, and they were stating that1

there were no damages.2

This case is proceeding and in this case the3

Plaintiffs do have damages. The case is in discovery right4

now, so that there is jurisdiction and thats why this case is5

so unique, because damages are here and I am here to show why6

those Plaintiffs have those damages, because we have an7

individual who is occupying the position of the President and8

Commander in Chief using a forged birth certificate according9

to two experts and I have provided their affidavits.10

He is using an invalid Social Security Number. He is11

using invalid Selective Service certificate. He is providing12

fraudulent information in regards to his educational records,13

and his whereabouts in the past. And we have seen that his14

policies have affected the Plaintiffs and have affected many15

other industries around the nation, and thats why it is so16

important to get to the root of this problem and once and for17

all get all of the evidence and for the nation to see all of18

the evidence, and to decide on the issue of eligibility and19

decide if the orders, and in this case moratorium orders to20

withhold permits for drilling like in this case, if any21

policies involving persecutions of Civil Rights attorneys like22

me, if any of those were valid.23


DR. TAITZ: And if I can just show --25


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THE COURT: Yes, you can. Im going to give you two1

more minutes though.2

DR. TAITZ: Yes.3

THE COURT: I have a courtroom full of people.4

DR. TAITZ: Sure, I understand.5

THE COURT: And I have three other matters to take6

up.7

DR. TAITZ: Yes. And what I wanted to show8

Your Honor, and its obvious, and this shows complete9

disrespect to this whole nation and system of justice. This is10

just to show what Mr. Obama has provided to the nation,11

claiming to be a true and correct copy of his birth12

certificate. This is a true and correct copy of a birth13

certificate of a woman who was born just a few hours after14

Mr. Obama.15

And you can see that a true and correct copy had to16

be on white paper. You can see how its turning yellow with17

time. You can see defined orders -- borders. What Mr. Obama18

provided is on paper, green safety paper that was not used in19

1961. There are no borders, its just a computer composite20

where bits and pieces of different images and different birth21

certificates were put together to create this image. Its22

unbelievable.23

To me, I believe that there has to be an emergency24

hearing on this, in that we have an individual sitting in the25


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White House using a forged birth certificate, and based on this1

forged birth certificate, he is occupying the highest position2

in the land, affecting so many industries, so many parties.3

You can see also the numbers. This woman, her birth4

certificate was signed in the same office. She was born in the5

same hospital. It was signed on the 11 th , August 11 th , and you6

can see the number ends on 637.7

Obama claims that the number that was assigned to him8

is 641, and his was signed on August the 8 th , and again, and9

you can see in the affidavit, this is completely impossible.10

Its out of order. This is clearly a forgery. You can see11

here that the birth certificates in those years were12

typewritten; they had to be justified to the left. Here, its13

completely wrong.14

And in the last one you can see that what Mr. Obama15

is using, here is a statement from yet another expert showing16

that when it was created, when you open it in Adobe17

Illustrator, you can see the grammatical layers. You can see18

how it was actually created, where they took bits and pieces of19

different birth certificates. You can see part of the20

signature of Stanley Ann Dunham and they might have used a21

birth certificate from -- for his sister, Maya Soetoro, and22

just added -- at that time his mother was signing documents as23

Stanley Ann D. Soetoro. It looks like Soetoro was removed and24

they added Dunham Obama, and thats how they came with Stanley25


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Ann Dunham Obama.1

Your Honor, this is, I feel that this is an assault2

on the system of justice in this country to allow somebody with3

forged documents, with forged and invalid identification4

documents to continue in the position of the President and5

without any discovery on the part of any judge or any court.6



THE COURT: Dr. Taitz, youre welcome.9

Mr. Mansfield, do you have any response that you want10

to make?11

MR. MANSFIELD: Only to say, Your Honor, that our12

arguments are contained in our memorandum in opposition that13

the proposed intervention doesnt satisfy Rule 24(b).14

THE COURT: All right, sir.15

MR. MANSFIELD: Thats all the response that I need16

to make.17

THE COURT: I have seen it and I have reviewed it18

already.19


THE COURT: Lets see. Mr. Rosenblum, is there21

anything that you want to say?22

MR. ROSENBLUM: Only this, Your Honor. I appreciate23

the Court calling us and letting us know that we were going to24

have a hearing.25


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THE COURT: Im sure Dr. Taitz wasnt aware of the1

local rule that requires it.2

Right, Dr. Taitz?3

DR. TAITZ: I wasnt aware.4

THE COURT: Okay.5

DR. TAITZ: Im sorry.6


MR. ROSENBLUM: On behalf of the Plaintiffs, we did8

not file anything as the Court is aware, Judge. The only thing9

I would point out is to correct a statement by Dr. Taitz.10

As Your Honor knows, the Hornbeck case has never11

sought monetary damages, Judge. We believe that any ability to12

get monetary damages, wed have to go to the Federal Court of13

Claims. This case was asking for a permanent and preliminary14

injunction. We got the preliminary injunction and there has15

been a lot of water under the bridge since that time.16

So, the suggestion that were seeking damages is17

simply not correct in this case.18

THE COURT: Do you think --19

MR. ROSENBLUM: Now, we do have the contempt motion,20

Judge, on the attorneys fees that youre looking at.21

THE COURT: I have it.22

MR. ROSENBLUM: Thats the only thing that I would23

like to say.24

THE COURT: Do you think water under the bridge is25


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the right analogy or simile to use at the moment?1

MR. ROSENBLUM: I have indicated previously,2

Your Honor, to Judge Feldman in this case, there has been a lot3

of water under the bridge. Im not so sure at this point since4

we havent seen --5

THE COURT: I think you said that in the winter6

though, before the water started rising.7

MR. ROSENBLUM: Actually, I think it was last summer,8

Judge.9

THE COURT: I see.10

MR. ROSENBLUM: But in any event, we havent had rain11

for a couple of weeks, but its coming, Judge.12

THE COURT: Okay.13

MR. ROSENBLUM: So, I understand the Courts14

sensitivity.15

THE COURT: All right. Okay, thank you very much.16

MR. ROSENBLUM: Thank you, Judge.17

THE COURT: All right. Now Dr. Taitz, as I said, I18

havent read your reply yet. I dont like ruling on things19

until I read everything that people have submitted. Im going20

to sign the order permitting you to leave the file with us21

right now.22

DR. TAITZ: Thank you, Judge.23

THE COURT: Have you served these two gentlemen with24

it?25


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DR. TAITZ: I served a bunch of them, and I guess1

that its going to be on Pacer shortly, also.2


DR. TAITZ: Thank you.4

THE COURT: Thank you very much.5


THE COURT: The matter is deferred until I can read7

this last submission.8

MR. ROSENBLUM: Thank you, Your Honor.9


THE COURT: Thank you.11

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C E R T I F I C A T E

I certify that the foregoing is a correct transcript

from the electronic sound recording of the proceeding in the

above-entitled matter.

S/Sherryl P. Robinson _6/6/11_ Sherryl P. Robinson Date

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