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NOV 2018 | CLARK COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION HEAR SAY The Official Magazine of the Clark County Bar Association | November 2018

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HEARSAYThe Official Magazine of the Clark County Bar Association | November 2018

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CONTENTS

04 President’s Message By Jill Sasser06 Calendar of Events

08 Last Minute CLE Credit By Maria Sosnowski10 Superior Court Bench Meeting Minutes By Nicholas Alexander13 Bookkeeping Tips By Emanuela Sandri14 Bowling with the Judges By Skyler Tanner18 Honoring our Veterans By Alfred A. Bennett24 Double Hearsay 26 Marlene Hansen By Lisa Ward28 New Attorneys

30 Sequels By Heather Norton24 British Panto By Jane Clark

HEARSAY MAGAZINE

The CCBA’s Official Members’ Magazine

The Clark County Bar Association is a professional organization that serves to support our local attorney community through providing education and networking opportunities designed to enhance and foster better relationships within the local legal community.

CONTRIBUTORSSpecial thanks to our marvelous committee

Skyler Tanner | Editor-in-ChiefJesse Jacobs | ContributorChristina Phelan | ContributorArt Bennett | ContributorJill Sasser | ContributorKathryn Unbehaun | Contributor

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I hope your November is going well. I like that November has an emphasis on gratitude. Thanksgiving is probably my favorite holiday--I love the focus on family, friends, food and thankfulness.

I am particularly thankful for the mentors in my life. As mentioned in last issue’s column, I am interested in working on mentorship pro-grams this year. Mentorship is critical to the success of newer or transitioning attorneys. A focus group (Elizabeth Christy, Scott Horen-stein, Erica Aquadro, Miranda Shreeve and myself) will be meeting at the Elizabeth Christy law firm office to discuss the mentorship pro-gram that Elizabeth started. We’d like to keep and possibly expand the program. If you have any interest in mentoring or being mentored, please reach out to me. We would love to in-clude you in this program.

I went to lunch with Juliet Laycoe recently. Juliet is the owner of Juliet Laycoe PC in Van-couver. Her practice focuses on family law, es-tate planning, probate and guardianship cases. I have always admired Juliet and I consider her to be an informal mentor. She is a wonder-ful attorney and a great person. Juliet always seems to have it “together” so I decided to ask her about her work/life balance secrets.

Juliet makes fitness a priority in her life. (I agree that health and fitness are critical to keeping stress levels down). She and her spouse, Tom Hagley, coordinate their work-out schedules each week. On Sunday nights, she tries to set her schedule for the week. She typically exercises six times per week, mostly in the early mornings. She runs on alternate

mornings, takes classes or trains at Northwest Personal Training and swims laps at Lakeshore Athletic Club. She also added spinning classes at StarCycle this past year. In addition to her regular fitness routine, she runs a relay with a team once per year. This is a travel/getaway weekend for Juliet and her spouse. They completed a Ragnar Trail relay in Zion (Utah) in 2017—each runner had to run 30 miles in about 30 hours (with altitude and hills!) She also recently participated in a running clinic with her spouse in Carmel, California taught by a former Olympic runner.

Juliet also makes spending time with her chil-dren a priority. (I agree that relationships with others are a critical component to happiness). She was heavily involved in community activ-ities for many years, but now focuses on her kids. One of the things that Juliet likes best about owning her own practice is the flexibility she has with her schedule.

She currently volunteers at her daughter’s ele-mentary school at least once every other week (if not more) and helps out as needed at her son’s middleschool.

Dear Members:

President’s Message

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She thinks she has only missed chaperoning one field trip for either of her kids. Juliet loves being able to be available to or for her kids and believes it makes a difference in their lives. She read the Gifts of Imperfect Parenting by Brené Brown a few years back and highly recommends it for parents. She tries to be vulnerable and honest with her kids and makes sure that they have quality time together each week. In addition, Juliet tries to instill a love of fitness in her kids and shows them that exercise and physical achievement are fun. She and her husband combine family time and fitness as often as possible. This past year, Juliet and her son, Ben, started partner training sessions together. She closes her office at noon on Fridays and then works out before picking her daughter up from school. She is very focused and task-ori-ented at work so that she has the time to spend and give to her family as well as to exercise and be active.

In her “free time” this year, Juliet wrote a book that should be available by the end of 2018. The book is called “Divorce Wis-dom—Smart Strategies for Anyone Contem-plating or Experiencing Divorce.” The book will be available through online retail-ers likew Amazon, Nook and Goo-gle Play. Juliet intends for this book to help people—it contains information, sugges-

tions and guidance. She hopes the book will be a resource for people going through a divorce

or for professionals working with those people. I think that pursuing

personal passion projects is another element of work/

life balance—it gives us energy and motivation to tackle the rest of the items on our to-do lists.

Perhaps most critical for her own work/life balance and happiness, Juliet also made a prac-

tice shift over the past two years by reducing

the number of contested cases she takes on. At the

beginning of 2016, she start-ed making this shift with small

changes. Initially, she stopped accept-ing contested custody or parenting plan mat-ters. For family law, her practice now primarily focuses on non-contested family law cases,

collaborative law and mediation.

Juliet also continues to practice in estate planning, probate

and guardianship. Juliet encourages taking baby steps if you want to make a practice transi-tion. She believes that you need to determine your goal, focus and stay motivated. In addition, you need a specific action plan and

list of steps to make your goal a reality. Juliet

believes that lists and calen-dars are key to feeling orga-

nized and productive at work. She also utilizes a staff person to

provide support and accountability.

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Juliet is part of a “mastermind” group with several professional women (and moms). They usually meet one time per month. The group provides business and personal support and accountability. During each meeting, members share goals, challenges and ideas and provide direct feedback and encouragement. I love this idea because it’s both social and productive. I think external accountability is key to making changes and achieving goals. In addition, Juliet’s family also has a New Year’s tradition to set goals for the next year (both silly and serious). They have a family poster that hangs in their laundry room that lists all of their person-al goals. For example, her daughter, Abby, wanted to do 100 jumping jacks this year. Halfway through the year they all review the poster. Juliet’s goal this year was to create a more simple and peaceful work environment. I love that Juliet is teaching her kids about how to set and achieve goals. Juliet, thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas about work/life balance. You have inspired me! I hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving and that you each have much to be thankful for.

—Jill Sasser

DEC 05CCBA Board Meeting Noon | CCBA Office

DEC 10Guardianship Probate & Elder Law Section 11:45–1:00pm | Public Service Center

DEC 13Family Law Section Lunch & CLE 11:30am | Fort Vancouver Red Cross Building

DEC 14Van Vista Gift Drop-off

Deadline EOD | CCBA Office

DEC 18CCBA Holiday Party 6:00pm - 9:00pm | Warehouse 23

Hearsay Committee Meeting Noon | CCBA Office

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DEC 06 | Hon. John Nichols (Ret.), Hon. Barbara Johnson (Ret.), Hon. Suzan Clark, Bill Thayer, Erin Morris

CLE: Ethics in Mediation & Oregon Elder and Child Abuse Reporting**

MAR 13 | 3:00pm – 5:00pm | WareHouse ’23 Event Space Lisa Miller

Nuts & Bolts: Court Mandated Arbitration, UM Arbitration & Mediation

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Register now for any of our upcoming CLEs.

DEC 12 | 3:00pm – 5:00pm | WareHouse ’23 Event Space Hon. Bernard Veljacic, Hon. Chad Sleight & Commissioner Snider

Nuts & Bolts: Clark County Practice and Procedure: Civil & Family

JAN 09 | 3:00pm – 5:00pm | WareHouse ’23 Event Space Scott Staples & Loren Etengoff

Nuts & Bolts: Clark County Practice & Procedure: Civil & Family

FEB 13 | 3:00pm – 5:00pm | WareHouse ’23 Event Space Cort Heroy

Nuts & Bolts: Client Management and Trial Strategy

CLE:

**$120.00 for Members $150.00 for Non-Members $60.00 for Non-Attorneys

Nuts & Bolts:

$60.00 for Members $80.00 for Non-Members $30.00 for Non-Attorneys

JUN 12 | 3:00pm – 5:00pm | WareHouse ’23 Event Space David Markowitz

Nuts & Bolts: The Perfect Question

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Did you wait until the end of the year to get your CLE credit? Not to worry; we have a number of ideas of places you can get credit. And you know that you can roll over up to 15 excess hours to the next reporting period, so don’t be afraid to stock up on those credits. Of course your first choice is the state and local bar associations. You can see what is being offered by the WSBA at https://www.wsba.org and then choose the Store tab. They offer both live and on-demand seminars plus the convenience of searching by both topic and format. The Clark County Bar Association website at http://ccbawashington.org has an events calendar and you can see when CLEs are offered. Nothing beats the convenience of local CLEs and you can get live interaction and the chance to ask questions.Did you know that you can earn CLE credit for volunteer legal work? The Clark County Volunteer Lawyers Program is on the list approved by the WSBA. You can gain credit while helping out people in need of legal services. Contact them at: [email protected] can also work through the Moderate Means program and help people at a reduced rate. You get access to free trainings when you agree to take clients at a reduced rate through this program. More information is available here: https://www.wsba.org/connect-serve/volunteer-opportunities/mmp.

Some other sources of CLEs include these organizations:

• National Business Institute https://www.nbi-sems.com• American Bar Association https://www.americanbar.org/events-cle/abacle• American Immigration Lawyers Association https://www.aila.org/conferences/cle/cle-by-state/washington• King County Bar Association https://www.kcba.org/• Washington State Association for Justice https://www.washingtonjustice.org/• American Law Institute https://www.ali-cle.org/

WHERE CAN I GET THAT

last minute CLE credit?—Maria Sosnowski, Law Librarian

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Clark County Practice and Procedure: Civil and Family Law –WareHouse ‘23 Event Space 100 Columbia Street - Vancouver, WA 98660

will present practical tips for litigating in Clark County Superior Court. His presentation will provide advice for assisting the Court in considering your case, to include use of the BLUF principle, issues related to motions practice, trial preparation tips, as well as his opinion on whether you should go “clubbing” the night/morning before an important argument in court. He will discuss pitfalls and how to avoid them, solid ground and how to remain upon it. Judge Veljacic will suggest an approach to practice that can go a long way toward establishing and preserving your credibility before the court. : Judge Sleight’s presentation will focus on practicing in District Court. He will discuss use of technology in jury trials, motions in limine day of trial, Specialty Courts (Substance Abuse Court, Mental Health Court, and Veteran’s Court), Pre-Trial Release, and handling Civil cases in District Court. Familiarize or refresh your knowledge of Family Law Procedure in a variety of areas including Clark County Local Rules 4.1(f) and 6 , Ex Parte Restraining Orders, Non Parent Visitation, Writs of Habeas Corpus, Reconsideration, Revision, Family Court Service Referrals, Relocations, Child Support Modiications, and Notices to Set for Trial.

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October 9, 2018 | The meeting began at noon. Persons in attendance were: Nicholas Alexander, Jolene Sell, Heather Carroll, Shon Bogar, Karen Campbell, James Smith, Rachel Brooks, Thomas Phelan, Emily Sheldrick, Judge Fairgrieve, Judge Veljacic

OLD BUSINESS

1) Update on LR 40(c): Judge Fairgrieve: Approximately 40 members of the bar were present at the recent LR 40(c) “open forum meeting” held at the Public Service Center hearing room. a. He spoke to the history of the local rule b. Listened to concerns from the bar about impact c. Many attorneys expressed that the rule is unnecessary and should not be mandatory. Not all shared this view that the rule is not needed. d. Judge Vanderwood has drafted proposed changes to the rule but judges have not discussed proposal in-depth. e. Judge Fairgrieve continued: still a work in-progress and input from bar is noted.2) Volunteer Lawyers Program: The Lawyer Battle of the Bands was a huge success, raising approximately twice as much as it did last year.

NEW BUSINESS

1) Defense Bar: a. Request for set-over. Instances have arisen where a client has an unexpected docket appearance and the court has not always respected a set-over. Many issues and unnecessary complications as a result. b. Defense Bar has a second request to add an additional plea docket; the status quo has sometimes caused extreme delays with in-custody plea docket. i.. Also, parties hearing cases when attorney is present but distracted, case being called. c. New attorneys being added to approved homicide list: John Terry, Alex Halina, and Sohay Lee. d. State has started to include waiver of rights on plea deals – concerns are: How can an attorney advise on every right? By closing off post-conviction relief except for when an ineffective assistance of counsel (“IAC”) claim exists, it will cause many more IAC claims. i. Prosecutor’s Office: Post-conviction relief has been chipped away because people attempted to renegotiate what was agreed upon when entering plea. ii. Shon Bogar: I see defense cases going to more trials as a result. iii. James Smith: Other counties have similar waivers; as of October 1, this is an active policy.

2) Judge Veljacic: Warrant vs. summons discussion: [I] advised the judges about the concern of defendants and indigent defense regarding summons vs. warrant issue. No vote was taken, but it was brought to the judges’ attention.

Superior Court Bench/Bar Meeting Minutes—Clark County Superior Court | Bench Bar Committee | Meeting Summary

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3) Judge Fairgrieve: Judges often do not have enough information at the time to make determi-nation regarding bail – it’s been difficult for the bench to have meaningful discussion on this topic because of competing persistent issues. A more effective approach might be to put concerns into writing – so that the bench can prepare and learn more before the next judges’ meeting.

4) Prosecutor’s Office: Nothing currently.

5) Northwest Justice Project: We still have the position open for an associate.

6) Clark County: Budget time is upon us – certain programs could be cut; October 31 is the work session.

7) Judge Fairgrieve: Bowling with the Judges is happening soon. Excited about it.

8) Clerk’s Office: Big switch to e-filing will go live the day before election; imaging will still be through Liberty.

a. We will also have a new case number format. b. No new e-filing between November 1 – 5. If filing a new case must do it the old-fashioned way and physically file it at the courthouse but can file if case already exists in their system.

9) Rachel Brooks: Nothing to add.

Respectfully Submitted,

Nicholas Alexander

Law Library — Maria Sosnowski, Law Librarian

FOR SALE Through December, 2018

The law library is taking blind bids on the following items:

1. Washington Elements of an Action 2016-17 v.29 Wa Pr

2. Kurzban’s Immigration Law Sourcebook 15e

3. Washington Summary Judgment/ Termination Motions 2016-17 v. 34 Wa Pr

4. Washington State Court Rules 2018

5. Trial Evidence Foundations rev. 31 James

6. Washington Elder Law & Practice 2016 v. 26 Wa Pr

7. Civil Jury Instruction Handbook 2016-17 v. 6B Wa Pr

8. Criminal Jury Instruction Handbook 2016-2017 v. 11B Wa Pr

9. Electronic Discovery and Records 2017-18 TR

10. Building a Parenting Agreement that Works 8e NOLO

Give your bid to the law librarian through the end of December. Bids must indicate your name, phone number, amount, and item(s) on which you are bidding. Winners will be notified in early January. We reserve the right to withdraw an item from bidding.

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IRS Form 8300Cash Received More Than $10,000 in a 12 Month Period

With the few exceptions shown in IRS Publication 1544, when cash received for re-lated transactions (including trust) exceeds $10,000 in a 12 month period, IRS form 8300 is required within 15 days, and a statement of the information is required to each person named by January 31 of the following year. The form with instructions is available at http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8300.pdf.

Requirements Include:

• Copies must be retained for five years

• Cash includes cashier’s check, traveler’s check, money order, etc. of $10,000 or less

• When payment is on behalf of others, identification is required for each person

Identifications Include:

• Name and address • Taxpayer identification number• Date of birth• Occupation, profession, or

business• Identifying document (such as

driver’s license, passport, etc.)

— Emanuela Sandri

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It would appear the secret to winning this year’s Bowling with the Judges was to assign nicknames. Well . . . and to have Jason Bailes on your team. Judge John Fairgrieve’s creativity and bowling prowess was illustrated as he put together a team composed of Chubs Gre3n, MC Huge, Stern but Fairgrieve, JB Strikes, JVV, and AB Spare. How would that team do anything but win? And win they did, with a high score on the team of 221 and a low of 83—their average was 127.33, over 10 pins more than the second place team.

Still, the second place team, led by Judge Kristen Parcher, was nothing to sneeze at either, with an average score of 115.71 and two high scores of 131. They also realized the importance of nicknames, with bowlers like Loos, Xtina, The Dude, The Mick, Parch, E-Rich, and JT. Judge Parcher’s team even had more collective

strikes than Judge Fairgrieve’s team, thanks to a turkey finish by Pat McDonnell.

Judges David Gregerson (who had the first strike of the night), Chad Sleight, and Kelli Osler, and Commissioners Abbie Bartlett and Todd George led the other teams and did a good job of not letting bowling get in the way of a wonderful evening of socializing.

In addition to Jason Bailes’s headline, Michele Westmoreland and Chris Boyd should also be congratulated on their scores of 149 and 145, respectively. Considering they were on the same team, however, and still had an average team score of only 107.71, we will refrain from sharing the rest of their teammates’ scores . . . .

Other accomplishments of note: Kelly Osler managed to split the pins the most of any bowler on the night (with 3, including in an unfortunate 10th frame). The award for the most blanks in the evening (with 13) goes to [ ]. And Marty Dixon gets the prize for perseverance, as he laced up (or Velcro’ed up, if he had shoes as cool as mine) after his team had started, so he had to bowl his last 3 frames all by himself.

Bowling with the Judges —Skyler Tanner

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This annual event has proven to be a very enjoyable and well attended activity. With 47 participants, including 7 commissioners and judges, plus at least one (Lisa Darco) who remained an independent observer in order to ferret out any . . . wait for it . . . underhanded bowling, it was an excellent opportunity to catch up, meet new people, and enjoy a casual atmosphere.

A SPECIAL THANK YOU to the NW Injury Law Center for sponsoring the evening.

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Catch up, meet new people, and enjoy a casual atmosphere.

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WE HONOR THE MEN & WOMENwho defended our country, our freedom, and all we consider sacred.

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A 1968 battlefield memorial near Chu Lai, Vietnam, honoring U.S. soldiers who died there.

The following is a reprint of an article written by Chuck Buckley

in 2009, saluting the CCBA military veterans.

Since Chuck’s article, the CCBA has welcomed more veteran attorneys:

Commissioner Todd George served in the Army JAG Corps,

Shon Bogar served in a Navy Submarine unit, and

Brandon Campbell was an Air Force Military Police officer.

All of the vets in the CCBA have probably not been mentioned and to

those we missed, we apologize and thank you for your service.

Your intrepid Veteran reporter,

Alfred A. (Art) Bennett

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WE HONOR THE MEN & WOMENwho defended our country, our freedom, and all we consider sacred.

_

A 1968 battlefield memorial near Chu Lai, Vietnam, honoring U.S. soldiers who died there.

The following is a reprint of an article written by Chuck Buckley

in 2009, saluting the CCBA military veterans.

Since Chuck’s article, the CCBA has welcomed more veteran attorneys:

Commissioner Todd George served in the Army JAG Corps,

Shon Bogar served in a Navy Submarine unit, and

Brandon Campbell was an Air Force Military Police officer.

All of the vets in the CCBA have probably not been mentioned and to

those we missed, we apologize and thank you for your service.

Your intrepid Veteran reporter,

Alfred A. (Art) Bennett

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FAMILY LAW SECTION MEETING—Emily Roberts

The Family Law Section of the Clark County Bar Association had another fabulous monthly meeting on October 11, 2018, with lunch and CLE at the Red Cross Building at Fort Vancouver.

The FLS was honored to have Commissioner Dayann Liebman, Judge David E. Gregerson, and Judge James E. Rulli provide us with an outstanding and informative presentation on the new non-parental child visitation laws.

The next FLS meeting was on Thursday, November 8, 2018, from 11:30 a.m. until 1:00 p.m. at the Red Cross Building at Fort Vancouver. At this meeting, we were pleased to have Nancy Retsinas, a long time expert in mediation and collaborative law, presenting on interest-based mediation in family law.

As a friendly reminder, please make sure you RSVP for section meetings. If you are not a member of the FLS, but would like to join, we would love to have you. Please contact the CCBA about joining at 360-695-5975 or [email protected].

We look forward to seeing you at our next meeting!

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 THE CCBA HOLLY JOLLY

HOLIDAY PARTY! TUESDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2018

6:00pm - 9:00pm

Warehouse 23

A Cookie Decorating Station, a visit with Santa,

and Christmas Ships on the Columbia River!

Heavy appetizers will be served

and a cash bar will be available.

FEATURING

Adults - $15.00

Kids 12 years old  and younger - $5.00

Contact the CCBA to register (360) 695-5975

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Double HEARSAY

Stefanie Ellis & Ryan Rothermel were married on July 30th, 2018, at their home. We wish them a lifetime of happiness together!

Jane Clark had what appeared to be a fantastic visit to the Blue Lagoon in Iceland.

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Brad Andersen of Landerholm PS and his wife

DeAnne recently celebrated their 30th wedding anniversary!

Your esteemed colleague Raisa Judicata can’t be everywhere. If you have a tidbit of news

you would like the world to know, send a note to CCBA at [email protected]. Raisa usually checks in the first Monday of every month. Remember, it is your ethical duty to support your member organization

with juicy gossip and goings on.

Everyone got into the Halloween spirit over at Franklin Suites with the whole place

dressing up like Judge Ladley!

Amy Robinson of Jordan Ramis PC was honored with the DJC Oregon

Women of Vision Award.

Judge Clark was recently summoned for Jury Duty! We’re looking forward to

her service!

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The Making of Marlene Hansen, Esq. — Lisa Ward

In 1970, the legal landscape for women looked a lot different than it does now. Title IX, which requires equal access to academic and athletic resources regardless of gender, had not yet been signed. A woman had never been appointed to the Supreme Court. In fact, the Supreme Court still viewed the exclusion of women from juries not as discrimination, but as an “inoffensive” at-tempt to accommodate their “special responsi-bilities.” Those respon-sibilities did not include jurisprudence.

As Marlene Hansen recalls, when she was in high school, there were four paths for women: Future Homemakers of America, Future Secretaries of America, Future Nurses of America, and Future Teachers of America. There was also the understanding that if you got married and your husband pursued an advanced degree, you sup-ported him. Marlene’s husband, Grant Hansen, decided to go to law school. She became a teacher and despite being her family’s sole source of income, she still could not get a credit card without her husband’s signature.

When Grant started law school, the dean gathered the students’ wives to explain they could not expect anything of their husbands for the next three years. They were told their husbands were special men who would be consumed by law school. After three years, the men

received law degrees and women received PHT degrees

for “Putting Hubby Through.” A woman’s place in law

school was clear, and it was beside her husband.

While at home, Marlene overheard Grant’s study groups and she under-stood the concepts be-ing discussed. She want-ed to dispel the idea that law was only the business of “special

men”—if only for herself—so she decided to take the

Law School Admissions Test in the Spring of 1970. Grant

drove her to take the exam, and she was the only woman in the au-

ditorium. When the results came in the mail, she wasn’t interested in opening them. She only wanted to prove to herself that she could sit for the exam. It was Grant who en-couraged her to go to law school when he saw how well she had done. When Marlene discussed attending law school with her family, the generational differences were evident.

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Her grandmother asked why she would do such a thing while her mother wondered what would happen if Marlene was a better attorney than Grant.

After Grant completed his military service, Marlene enrolled at Lewis and Clark Law School. She worked hard and was invited to join the law review, but school was about to get a lot harder: she learned she was pregnant. Each student was required to take twelve units per semester. Marlene considered how she could make that work and proposed to the assistant dean that she take six credits in the summer to make up for missing some classes during the school year. She was told to go home and take care of her baby. When Marlene asked whether she could return, she was told she would need to reapply. The only leave available was for men doing mili-tary service, and they were automatically readmitted.

Marlene was determined to find a way and arranged to take classes in the summer to learn the material, then enrolled again during the school year to receive the necessary credits. Often, she would sit at the back of the classroom with a sleeping baby at her feet, because there was no childcare available. The following year, she worked with a professor to establish a policy allowing for a personal leave of absence.

Despite the adversity she faced, Marlene graduated and went on to have a successful family law practice in Clark County, Washing-ton. Her struggles as a woman in law did not end, but neither did her determina-tion. She went on to become a partner at Weber and Gunn before starting her own law firm where she continues to work.

Today, there are far more women prac-ticing law, and it is easy to forget the groundwork that paved the way for the current generation. In 1993, Georgetown opened the first daycare center at a law school for staff and students. That same year, the Family & Medical Leave Act was signed into law thanks to the research and policy initiatives prepared by the Women’s Law and Public Policy Fellow-ship Class of 1985-86. Women like Mar-lene persevered despite the obstacles before them, and they made it easier for those who followed.

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LINDSEY TEASDALE RALEIGH

Home: Portland, Oregon Law School: Lewis and Clark Proudest Accomplishment: Two happy, book-loving babes. Last book you read: The Same Sky by Amanda Eyre Ward Favorite Restaurant in Vancouver: NONAVO Pizza (so far) Why you became a lawyer: The diversity of professional opportunity A question you wish you were asked for this interview? Favorite way to enjoy the PNW? Or the outdoors?

KAREN MALELLA-MANKER

Home: Vancouver, Washington Law School: APR 6 Law Clerk Program Proudest Accomplishment: Aside from my four kids and passing the bar, I would say going back to school in my early 40’s and earning my Bachelor’s degree, some-thing I regret not doing earlier. Last book you read: Lawyers Crossing Lines by Michael Seigel and James Kelley Favorite Restaurant in Vancouver: Toss-up between Thai Orchid and Jorge’s Tequila Factory Why you became a lawyer: I wanted to be a lawyer in high school but never pursued it for various reasons. I had taken a business law class and was intrigued by how the law could be interpreted or applied in more than one way depending on how you argued it. After high school, I enrolled in the Paralegal program at Clark College so that I could at least work in the legal field, which I have done for the past 26 years. I then got married and had four children so I figured that was going to be my life until Ron Greenen convinced me to enroll in the law clerk program. Law school was not an option for me given my responsibilities at work and at home and of course, my four children -- not to mention the cost. I am truly grateful for the opportunity to participate in the law clerk program and the flexibility it offered me and of course, for Ron’s willingness to tutor me for four years. A question you wish you were asked for this interview? Maybe what areas of law I intend to practice? As a paralegal, I have handled all types of matters over the years but currently focus on estate planning, personal injury and some litigation and appeal work.

Meet three of Clark County’s newest Attorneys!— Kathryn Unbehaun

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RYAN JAHN

Home: Vancouver, Washington Law School: Lewis and Clark Proudest Accomplishment: Passing the bar Last book you read: The Gods of Guilt by Michael Connelly Favorite Restaurant in Vancouver: Black Angus Why you became a lawyer: To follow in Dave Jahn’s footsteps

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Sequels Aren’t Always Worse Than The Originals: A Look at CCBA Parents and the Attorney Younglings Who Have Followed in Their Footsteps— Heather Norton

This article is part 2 of a six-part series that we began in October. Not many of us have the chance to have a child follow in our professional footsteps . . . or to do what our parents have done before us. But there are some CCBA members who have experienced just that. We wanted to know what it’s like— for both the Old’ens and the Young’ens. This month, we’re pleased to get a peek into the professional and personal journey of Judge James Rulli and Tonya Rulli. (Thank you both for sharing this with us). And stay tuned for another amazing duo soon.

JUDGE RULLI

What was your first gig out of law school? My first job out of law school was sharing office space in an old building on Main Street with attorneys Randy Ferguson and Ken Eiesland. Randy did corporate and tax work, Ken did P.I.’s, criminal and real estate, and everything else that came in the door was steered my way.How do you think your first 5 years in practice differed from your kid? My first five years were very challenging because I was taking almost anything that walked in the door including family, criminal, landlord-tenant, and bankruptcies. Tonya on the other hand was fortunate to get a job with the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and a regular paycheck.

What was your reaction/response when your kid said they wanted to be an attorney? My wife reminded me that Tonya said she wanted to be an attorney at age 10! When she was 16, she would join the all-male adult table at family gatherings to debate world affairs. To maintain familial harmony we don’t debate anymore. But Tonya has become a great advocate for her clients.

What advice did you give your kid during law school? Did they take it?

I don’t recall having to give Tonya much advice. When she decided to go to law school she put her head down and charged right in. In response to one of her answers, I do still have all of my old law books so if anyone is looking for Wigmore on Evidence, just let me know.

Do you work with your kid? How is it working together? No, we don’t work together, but I have had an opportunity to observe her in court.

What do you wish the other person knew about what it is like practicing now verses when you were just starting out? The practice of law in Clark County has changed quite a bit since the ‘70’s. There’s so many more attorneys and everyone is specialized. I get a kick watching all of the young lawyers with all of their enthusiasm and big briefcases marching into the courthouse every day.

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What do you admire most about your young attorney? Anything you see them do that came from you? Anything that is uniquely their gift? Although my wife says that Tonya and I share a lot of similarities, I think she’s a very unique individual and attorney. For those of you that know her, she’s a great attorney and will work tirelessly to represent her clients.

What would be your “plan B” if you weren’t an attorney? My plan B was to join my uncle in the insurance busi-ness. Looking back I know I made the right decision.

What is the biggest lesson you’ve learned from seasoned years in practice that you hope to pass on to your young attorney? We come across such a wide spectrum of people in the legal profession there are many traits we must use on a daily basis. Being able to express your opinions but also being a good listener. Being understanding, compassion-ate, approachable and respectful of others. And as the sign on my bench says be “Patient”.

TONYA

What was your first gig out of law school? I started working as a Rule 9 intern in the Clark County Prosecutor’s office the summer after my 2nd year of law school. Everyone thinks I got the job because of my father, but I was the only one that applied! They hired me as a lawyer as soon as I passed the bar exam.

How do you think your first 5 years in prac-tice differed from your parent? I was working in one area of the law – criminal – and I had many people to turn to for help and advice. My father had to handle many different areas of law on his own and just a few peers to learn from.

What did you hope would be your parent’s reaction when you told them you were go-ing to law school? What do you remember their reaction being? He was proud but also relieved I found an outlet for my arguing skills I used to give him many gray hairs in high school. I was not an easy child to raise!

What (if anything) did your parent do to help you during law school? He tried to give me his old books and study materials that he had kept all those years (and are still probably somewhere in the basement!). He was also a great sounding board when I was overwhelmed.

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Do you work with your parent? How is it working together? Not yet, but maybe one day soon!

Do you have any memories of your parent practicing law (any memories that do not require therapy) that you can share? My memories of my father as a lawyer are of him working on our vacations, wearing suits every day and generally being stressed out. But I also felt he had a serene sense of knowledge and power that I aspired to feel when I grew up. Not sure I am there yet, but maybe one day….

What do admire most about your attorney parent? His dedication to his job. He truly cares about people and wants them to succeed. I am so proud of how passionate he feels about drug court, and juvenile recovery court. I have met so many people who have told me he had a profoundly positive impact on their lives.

What would be your “plan B” if you weren’t an attorney? AUGH! It is hard to imagine doing anything else, but I would probably be involved in politics at some level.

What is the biggest lesson you’ve learned from your seasoned parent? / What do you hope to emulate? PATIENCE! He has it written in capital letters facing him on the bench. The funny thing is, I think he is very patient person in all areas of his life, but I certainly am not, so I try to emulate him in that regard.

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Former CCBA president, Jane Clark, is returning to her theatrical roots this holiday season and will be performing with the Portland Panto players in their production of Wizard of Oz - The Panto.

Have questions? Jane has some answers for you here.

What is a “panto”?

Panto is a British Christmas theater tradi-tion. Pantos are loosely based on a tradi-tional fairy tale or story and are complete with songs, dances, jokes, exaggerated characters, and lots and lots of audience participation. Panto is a wonderful way to entertain children and adults alike enlisting everyone's help to cheer on the good char-acters and boo the bad. And Panto always works on two levels, with plenty of clever innuendo for adults to enjoy.

Who are the Portland Panto Players?

We are a new theater company founded this year by me and my husband, Art Kohn, with the goal of bringing panto to Portland for the first time. I grew up with theater and that included going to see a panto every year. Even now, when I go back to the UK for the holidays, I will see at least one pan-to with my family.

Setting up and running a theater company has been a lot of work but my whole fam-ily is involved with the show and we love having a fun project we can all do together. We have a great cast of actors from all over the Portland area and it is exciting to see the show come together. We have been rehearsing since September and the show is looking pretty good.

Why did you choose the Wizard of Oz as your first production?

It is Art’s favorite movie of all time and, in the UK, the movie plays on Christmas Eve every year, so for me, I associate the Wiz-ard of Oz with the holiday season. There are also some great roles in the show. You will see all of the traditional characters from the movie plus a few extra charac-ters-- such as Dame Auntie Em who fol-lows Dorothy to Oz on a quest for love and two “rapper” flying monkeys who act as the witch’s henchman.

BRITISH PANTO VERSION of THE WIZARD OF OZ COMES TO PORTLAND THIS HOLIDAY SEASON

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The show follows the basic plot of the movie but some of the characters you will see in our show may not be quite what you expect and there are a few slapstick scenes thrown in and lots of songs to keep the kids engaged and excited.

How much will the audience be expected to interact?

Well, there is always lots of shouting and yelling at panto for sure. The audience will be encouraged to boo at the witch, yell “hiya scarecrow” every time he comes onto the stage, maybe sing along in the chorus of a song or two, and laugh like crazy at all the silly jokes: “Why are you staring at the orange juice,” one flying monkey asks the other. “It says “concentrate” is the reply.

Have you been involved in a lot of theatrical productions?

Yes. When I lived in the UK, I was very involved in community theater and used to perform in 3-4 plays a year. I love all types of the-ater and have played roles ranging from Titania in a Midsummer Night’s Dream to Jack Frost in the Snow Queen. I love being in front of an audience and now that my children are older, it seemed like a perfect time for me to get back on stage.

What role are you playing?

Well, I came to the sad realization that I am too old to play Dorothy! I am therefore playing my dream role (and some defense counsel I am sure will say I have been typecast) as the Wicked Witch, but not as you have seen her before. You will need to come and see the show to find out more!!!

When and where are the performances?

We are doing 8 shows the weekends before and after Christmas. Performances will be at noon and 4pm on December 22, 23, 29 and 30 at the Siren Theater in NW Portland. For more information and to book tickets online you can check out our web-site at https://portlandpantoplayers.com.

We are offering a discount to CCBA members--one third off the regular ticket price if you enter code “ccba” when you make a reservation.

I am very excited to be bringing this tradition from my home in the UK to my home in Portland and hope you will come and see the show.

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