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Jour nalist Glen n Greenwald condemnedthe mainstrea m media during an addressat a Germa n co mputer co nferen ce onFriday and accused his colleagues of failing to challenge erroneous remarksroutinely made by government officialsaround the globe.

Thousands of attendees at the thirtieth annual Chaos Communication

Congress in Hamburg packed into a room to watch the 46-year-oldlawyer-turned-columnist present a keynote address delivered lessthan seven months after he started working with former NationalSecurity Agency contractor Edward Snowden .

Published time: December 27, 2013 22:23

Glenn Greenwald (AFP Photo / Evaristo Sa)

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RecommendedRevelations contained in leaked documents supplied by Snowden toGreenwald and other journalists have sparked international outrageand efforts to reform the far-reaching surveillance operations wagedby the NSA and intelligence officials in allied nations. But speakingremotely from Brazil this week, Greenwald argued that the mediaestablishment at large is guilty of failing significantly with respect toaccomplishing its most crucial role: keeping governments in check.

When Greenwald and his colleagues began working with Snowden,he said they realized that theyd have to act in a way that wasnt onpar with how the mainstream media has acted up until now.

We resolved that we were going to have to be very disruptive of thestatus quo not only the surveillance and political status quo, but alsothe journalistic status quo , Greenwald said. And I think one of theways that you can see what it is that we were targeting is in the

behavior of the media over the past six months since these revelationshave emerged almost entirely without them and despite them.

[W]e knew in particular that one of our most formidable adversarieswas not simply going to be the intelligence agencies on which we werereporting and who we were trying to expose, but also their most loyal,devoted servants, which calls itself the United States and British medi a.

It really is the case that the United States and British governments arenot only willing but able to engage in any conduct no matter how

grotesque , Greenwald said. Nevertheless, he added, journalists taskedwith reporting on those issues have all too often been compliant withthe blatant lies made by officials from those governments.

Halfway through his remarks, Greenwald recalled a recent quip hemade while being interviewed by BBC about the necessity of afunctioning media in an environment where government officials canspew untruths to reporters without being questioned.

[A]t one point I made what I thought was the very unremarkable and uncontroversial observation that the reason why we have a free press isbecause national security officials routinely lie to the population in order to shield their power and get their agenda advanced, recalledGreenwald, who said it is both the the goal and duty of a journalist isto be adversarial to those people in power .

According to Greenwald, the BBC reporter met his remark withskepticism.

I just cannot believe that you would suggest that senior officials, generals in the US and the British government, are actually making falseclaims to the public , he remembered being told on-air.

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Meanwhile, NSA reform may not happen as quickly as Greenwald,Snowden and others have hoped; despite a series of considerablevictories for privacy advocates as of late, a federal judge in New Yorksaid moments before Fridays address that the surveillance policiesexposed by those leaks are not in violation of the US Constitution.The American Civil Liberties Union sued DNI Clapper in June afterGreenwald and others wrote that the government was compellingtelecoms for telephony metadata pertaining to millions of Americans.But District Judge William Pauley wrote on Friday that Whether theFourth Amendment protects bulk telephony metadata is ultimately aquestion of reasonableness.

And while Judge Pauley and proponents of that program and similarsurveillance operations continue to call the NSAs efforts imperativein Americas war on terror, Greenwald said at Fridays conference thattheir intention is much more sinister than stopping another 9/11 fromoccurring.

The NSAs goal, Greenwald said, is to ensure that all forms of humancommunication . . .are collected, monitored, stored and analyzed by that agency and by their allies .

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jens 29.12.2013 21:04Media these day's are controlled by their goverments.If a journalist think out of the box, he or she has to fearfor his job. There where in France several incidents with

journalist who lost their job because they wrote an criticalarticle about Sarkozy. He went to their bosses and therest is history for them.

And in a few years we would be chipped like they do nowwith dogs where al our data is stored.By then Passports and bankcard are not neccesary tools

anymore.And they will tell us....It is so convienent and easy foryou....?But surely and slowly they drew their plan against us.
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Nabuquduriuzhur 29.12.2013 20:25When the 1996 Telecom Act passed, all the limitations onownership of media were lifted and theDemocrat/Socialist party bought most newspapers, TV,and radio stations.

CNN, ABC, NBC, Washington Post, LA Times, NY Times,Oregonian, etc. now parrot the Democrat party line, muchas pre-1991 Pravda, Itar-TASS, etc. did.

The Democrats went full Socialist in 1993. Clintonappointees typically were incompetent and governmentwas altered to mostly hire incompetent people whose

jobs depended upon the Democrats to keep them. After20 years of that, most Federal Civil Service is incompetentand corrupt.

Max21c 29.12.2013 17:58Greenwald is right about the American media serving theinterests of the Washington Regime and its state securityapparatus. What journalists and the companies andorganizations they work for do in America is basicallyserve the interests of the state and the powers that be.Journalists under the American system lie for the secretpolice and help coverup the crimes and criminal activitiesof the secret police.

Tommy Yonker 29.12.2013 16:46I can't believe Anderson Cooper is still in the camp of themorally decadent MSM. He must be embarassed by theposition he has accepted for himself. Great changes areafoot and coming to us all. Mssrs. Snowden andGreenwald will eventually be recognized for the heroesthat they are, and yes heroes are imperfect too.

John Edward Kendrick 29.12.2013 03:03In the lead-up to the 50th anniversary of the JFKassassination, mass media 'coverage' consisted of acover-up--all mass media conforming to the WarrenCommission cover-up. Why, for example, was the death-bed confession of E. Howard Hunt not mentioned? Whywas the confession of James Stiles as having been one of the shooters also not mentioned?


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Greenwald is absolutely correct .... and this has nothing todo with alleged "Hate Speech", which is itself a way toavoid talking about things...All too often organisations like ABC or the BBC justfollow the line provided them by the people spendingmost money with them. They do not investigate, and areonly critical of anything that is not socialist by nature.It's time the media worked independantly - no moretaking the same "news" from offical sources - reportersshould go out and find the real news.RT shows the way here - they provide stories not evenmentioned in most Western media!

Leon the Professional 28.12.2013 19:28I think Greenwald and Snowden are servants of thesecurity apparatus.

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nick 28.12.2013 16:59Elaine Champion 28.12.2013 15:41

Citizens have every right to demand that theirgovernments (public servants), obey the laws of the land

and adhere to the constitution.

What right does Snowden have the right to dictateto the US on what it should do and shouldn't do togovern. He needs to run for an "elected"

government seat, then start campaigning, beelected and then start putting forth is "opinion" onhow the government is run, all done by what theUS is run on "popular vote rules" and that includesGrenwald.

RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 16:29Hate speech is when many comments are stated againsta certain group or a country without having any validevidence. If you read many comments in several articles,you would see coments claiming that Israel is behind theterrorist attacks in Russia, Asia, and that Qaeda operatives

are Mossad or American agents. I do NOT believe thosewho make such comments have any evidence, but it isbasically an emotional tendency, that is, hate speech.

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RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 16:24Poster of 28.12.2013 16:20:--Re ad my earlier comments. Mr. Greenwald stressed onthe fact that the US & British media mislead theiraudience, but did not talk about the profound role Iranplayed in the invasion of Iraq. He did not provide thewhole truth, while he criticized Williams for doing thesame.

Yes, ALL facts should be mentioned and it should bementioned everywhere. Do we hear about any criticism of some countries here? No, while they still have highcorruption rate, by the testament of their officials.

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RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 16:20The US does not have the right to dictate to any countrywhat they should do. But it can ask them, and it is up tothese countries to decide for themselves. Sweden,Norway and others decided to spy for the US. Do NOTblame the US, but blame these countries.

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stan2013 28.12.2013 16:20RODRIGAZ ISA28.12.2013 16:11

St ating Facts isn't "Hate speech". They are merely facts,which have nothing to do with hating any groups of people or nations. Nothing wrong with pointing out

wrong-doing. It is only wrong to commit it; + it must becalled out

Poster of 28.12.2013 16:02:--Re ad my earlier comments. Mr. Greenwald is notproviding the whole truth about the Iraq wareither.

All these actions are for a purpose. If this is aforum for a hate speech against a particularcountry or group of countries, then you are right.But I do NOT think this is the goal of this web site.

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stan2013 28.12.2013 16:15Elaine Champion 28.12.2013 15:41

What right does USA have to dictate to any foreign Gov'thow to conduct their internal affairs + Interfere when US

Interests {US Corporations} are compromised? Snowdenhimself is a creation of US policy globally.

What right does Snowden have the right to dictateto the US on what it should do and shouldn't do togovern. He needs to run for an "elected"

government seat, then start campaigning, beelected and then start putting forth is "opinion" onhow the government is run, all done by what theUS is run on "popular vote rules" and that includesGrenwald.

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RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 16:11Poster of 28.12.2013 16:02:--Re ad my earlier comments. Mr. Greenwald is notproviding the whole truth about the Iraq war either.

All these actions are for a purpose. If this is a forum for ahate speech against a particular country or group of countries, then you are right. But I do NOT think this is thegoal of this web site.

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stan2013 28.12.2013 16:02[quote name='RODRIGAZ ISA' time='28.12.2013

12:59']China, South Korea, Japan, India get a LOT of oilfrom the Middle East and Africa. ........

Ar e the media in the first 4 countries owned by Jews? Allthe empires which sucked the natural resources of occupied countries were Jewish?

Read the story. It is about NSA spying + British spying, +media complicity in it. The Media is Zionist in USA +

Britain. The 4 countries you mention are not mentioned inthe story. What you say is largely not related to story.

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RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 15:49Elaine Champion:--Good points. Mr. Snowden does not have the right todictate, but he has the right to express his opinion freely.Both men are exploited, I think. But this happens all overthe world all the time.

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Elaine Champion 28.12.2013 15:41What right does Snowden have the right to dictate to theUS on what it should do and shouldn't do to govern. Heneeds to run for an "elected" government seat, then startcampaigning, be elected and then start putting forth is"opinion" on how the government is run, all done by whatthe US is run on "popular vote rules" and that includesGrenwald.

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Elaine Champion 28.12.2013 15:37Grenwald stated that the NSA isn't interested insurveillance but something "more sinister" but doesn't saywhat that "more sinister" is. He talks like a walkingparanoid schizophrenic and he'd love to actually have theall the tools himself to do some spying to bolster his

journalism career.

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Brad 28.12.2013 14:59You write what you're told. Thanks corporate media! Thegovernment couldn't control the people without you!Who needs state owned mouth pieces when journalistsare willing to do the job for you!

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Simon J A Wolfers 28.12.2013 14:45MSM like the BBC like to champion democracy at thesame time as being complicit in it's destruction.

Hans Onrust 28.12.2013 14:15hehe, I would like to see some so called Femen rise on

this forum. The only thing we get here is sister-in-lawstories........Some envy on my side on Putin and this Klnerpriest last days. Regarding the current 'free internet' andthe enormous clams in the free Germany on sexual sites

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at the moment. Strange (free) world.

RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 14:14Poster 28.12.2013 14:00:

&quo t;Your infatuation with Jews is obvious."

"Actually, you are the only one talking about Jews here."---

1st sentence: You are very wrong. Actually, I cannot standany religion.

2nd Sentence: You obviously do NOT read RT. Just look atthe comments everywhere.

Remaining Sentences: The Americans are NOT the oneswho are getting the oil contracts in Iraq; it is mainly theChinese, Russians, and British-Dutch. Check the Internet.

Check Libya oil output: Well below the invasion. Syria; it isNOT about oil; the Saudis do not need it. It is about Iran!

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Liberator 28.12.2013 14:12Jan Vanosnabrugge doesn't have to guess. In the USA,unlike Russia, Presidents really are limited to two terms.

Howe ver, it's quite possible that Obama's successor willbe worse yet.

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Jan Vanosnabrugge 28.12.2013 14:06My guess.Obama will not be the next president.He may be shot ortold not to run. It will be Hillary who must be ingovernment service to protect state secrets.

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Bond 28.12.2013 14:05Evidently the West is licking its wounds over the Snowdenrevelations so they are forced to invent an all-dancingfemale distraction for the middle-class press on which somuch relies like uniform public opinions.


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Suddenly out of the blue yonder we get the cat womenstepping on to worlds media scene demanding theresignation of PRESIDENT PUTIN. Why? Because EdwardSnowden given sanctuary in Russia.

That proves a point; a rather awkward point that the manwho broke the data bank at the NSA is now consideredthe most dangerous man on their score card. The revengestakes have never been higher between East and West.

Hans Onrust 28.12.2013 14:02my friend's sister in law stole my 180 Lloyd shoes andgave them to him as a Christmas gift. Now I'm bare foot.

Chuck 28.12.2013 14:00RODRIGAZ ISA28.12.2013 12:59

Your infatuation with Jews is obvious.None can say all Jews are bad without lying.Actually, you are the only one talking about Jews here.However, you think it is a coincidence that western mediathat lied about oil rich Iraq, Libya, Syria etc to justifyillegal invasions of those sovereign nations is almost

completely owned by them?

Are the media in the first 4 countries owned byJews? All the empires which sucked the naturalresources of occupied countries were Jewish?

I am afarid to say that there is an acute case of

one-sided hysteria about Jews;

Hans Onrust 28.12.2013 13:51for sure the Stasi and KGB chiefs would be jealous on thecurrent western state of the art '(press) freedom' incl. thegeneral reluctant acceptance of it. Part of the so called'globalization', as a marvelous tool for the fat elite'playing democracy' politicians too,I guess. .

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RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 13:17Poster of 28.12.2013 13:10:

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--I guess your post proves who the moron idiot is. Anadvice for you, kid: Try to learn how to write properEnglish first.

Ed Hamilton 28.12.2013 13:08Look at these histories that the media et al. keep out of sight!patrick.n et/forum/?p=1230886

America marches to deception by omission.

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RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 12:59China, South Korea, Japan, India get a LOT of oil from theMiddle East and Africa. China gets cheap oil from Iran &has a lot of investments in Africa. In fact, the US isproducing more oil than it imports; the only countryamong the other mentioned countries that does this.

Are the media in the first 4 countries owned by Jews? Allthe empires which sucked the natural resources of occupied countries were Jewish?

I am afarid to say that there is an acute case of one-sidedhysteria about Jews; this probably mainly exists in Europeand is another proof of what the Israelis have been sayingall along!

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RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 12:40We do not like to address our posts (except with friends)in personal forms as they would impolite in this way.

Yeah, and all the empires that occupied the world sincethe Romans and before were also Jewish. Hitler was a Jewtoo?? The British, French, Spanish, Japanese Empires wereJews?? Of course, paranoid idiots would believe that.

Oh, yeah, Greenwald is, believe it or not, is a Jew. May behe is part of the gang and wants to fool all of you.

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Alex P. 28.12.2013 12:32Well at least someone in the Western media finallyopenly admitted this. I'll go a step further and say that all

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US/UK government institutions, including the securityservices all serve the narrow-financial powers in thosecountries.

Very ironic that at a time when individual privacy is inretreat on a massive scale, transparency in Westernfinancial institutions is at an all time low.

Man those guys know what there doing lol; my favoritepart is that this paradox eats away at Western credibilityabroad to wag finger on all kinds of issues. Not a badway to round off the year.

RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 12:25One would wonder if this article and related issuesrepresent:(i) A criticism of ONLY a part of the world,(ii) Blaming everything on Jews or Zionists; including theKashmiri problem; the disappearance of the Tasmaniantiger and the monstrous tornadoes on the Jupiter planet,or( iii) A shallow McCarthyism classification of the world aseither Pro-Mullahs or Zionists,or a combination of the above!

According to the definition in (iii), Saddam, Nasser,Kamal Junbilat (the most intellectual Arab socialist thatever existed who was killed by Syria in the 1970's) andmany atheists would then be Zionists!

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OrionV 28.12.2013 12:23Chied Bryan 28.12.2013 12:02

Compared to the American government at present, I'dsay the Russian government still has a mile to go to be

Before we start applauding what Greenwald said;let's not forget that RT is funded by the Russiangovernment and hardly questions or challengesgovernment policies. Sometimes RT even goes asfar as avoiding headline stories that make theRussian government look bad.

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looking that bad.

Chuck 28.12.2013 12:17Chied Bryan 28.12.2013 12:02

Bu t so far, neither the Russian government nor RT hasdeliberately misled neither Russians or readers worldwideto justify illegal invasions of other sovereign nationsdriven purely by greed. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria the

list goes on!!!

Also, Russian population is not as gullible as majorityuneducated stupid Americans that believes what theirmedia says is always the absolute truth.

Before we start applauding what Greenwald said;

let's not forget that RT is funded by the Russiangovernment and hardly questions or challengesgovernment policies.

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Chied Bryan 28.12.2013 12:02Before we start applauding what Greenwald said; let's not

forget that RT is funded by the Russian government andhardly questions or challenges government policies.Sometimes RT even goes as far as avoiding headlinestories that make the Russian government look bad.

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Steven Severn 28.12.2013 11:55The mainstream media is largely owned by the very sameelite parasites who benefit from our ignorance and

misdirected understandings. Fearful, subservient andexploitable populations are required for neo-liberalcapitalism to function.

Bond 28.12.2013 11:54a) Where law ends....tyranny begins.

b) It is dangerous to be right....when the government is

wrong.

c) One of the penalties for refusing to participate inpolitics is that you end-up governed by your inferiors

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W hich one of the above famous quotes applies at themoment; and in which countries? Answers on a post cardto the leaders of the "free world".

OrionV 28.12.2013 11:53Listen to John F Kennedy's speech on "secret societies",much will become clear.

Some argue that the speech contributed to his killing,others that it was the (cabal controlled) CIA, others againit was the defense industry wanting a war in Vietnam atall cost (putting their man LBJ in charge) - I would say,probably some of all.

What is clear is that John F Kennedy was a president thatdecided not to be shut up and follow the provided "intelbriefings", he was honoust and spoke openly. Heprovided in his many speeches a map to a better worldthat is not some unattainable dream. It is a choice wetake or don't.

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Regula 28.12.2013 11:52[quote name='amere-brush-ha nd' time='28.12.201311:33']The supranational sovereignty of an intellectualelite and world bankers is surely preferable to thenational autodetermination practiced in past centuries."[/qu ote]

You must be a rightwing extremist that you think thatworld tyranny of banks is preferable sovereign self-determination by nations. A world government, especiallyunder US/UK dominance is not a world government, it isworld despotism and fascism revived. Only with nationalindependence can the world maintain a balance of democratic freedom.

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amere-brush-hand 28.12.2013 11:33Glen Greenwald speaks the truth regarding the media.Utterly compliant and servile.

PK 28.12.2013 11:13"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York

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Times, Time Magazine and other great publicationswhose directors have attended our meetings andrespected their promises of discretion for almost fortyyears.It would have been impossible for us to develop our planfor the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is moresophisticated and prepared to march towards a worldgovernment. The supranational sovereignty of anintellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable tothe national autodetermination practiced in pastcenturies."

Mark 28.12.2013 10:49The intelligence services have been using the media fordecades to "condition" ; the public for certain agendas.Only ill informed idiots will think they are independentand as faction bassed as politics.Obama has penned war crimes with his mighty pen, sohas Tony Blair. Where are all of the journalists? why arethey not digging up the truth of the thousands of warcrimes since 9\11 and bring out the truth to the public.Ruby you are deluded

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Mark 28.12.2013 10:46Ruby Renae 28.12.2013 10:21

satiric pieces? did you ever hear Kennedy's speech? Whathappened to investigative journalism?

The notion that the US media has never been amouthpiece for power is mistaken. It is actuallymore complex. There have always been nichepublications opposed to intervention and war inthe US, but the dominant narrative coming from

D.C. has almost always favored going in with themilitary. Read some Mark Twain satiric pieces onUS militarism, and you'll find that although therewere pro-war hawks running the media, there wasalways prominent voices of dissent.

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Ruby Renae 28.12.2013 10:21The notion that the US media has never been amouthpiece for power is mistaken. It is actually more

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complex. There have always been niche publicationsopposed to intervention and war in the US, but thedominant narrative coming from D.C. has almost alwaysfavored going in with the military. Read some MarkTwain satiric pieces on US militarism, and you'll find thatalthough there were pro-war hawks running the media,there was always prominent voices of dissent.

Gerr 28.12.2013 10:06Most of us (who read RT) already knew that the US/UKMSM are loyal servants of the "security apparatus" asGreenwald put it. Once in a while they put on a little showpretending to challenge the status quo but they neverdare to go far enough and ask some hard questions.The logical explanation is that they don't want to upsettheir bosses (their corporate owners) who are obviouslyin cahoot with the NSA since they have the same agenda.Wake up people before it's too late!

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Bond 28.12.2013 09:37Governments need their intelligence services to provideunregulated NSA / GCHQ secret operations making usmere specimens for their constant examination.

Edward Snowden like Julian Assange are personae nongrata in Britain.....no space or time to air any bad news;that's not fi t to print unlike the NEW YORK TIMES and theGUARDIAN....to be prosecuted by the British police?

Bri tain has designed a political system based on simplywinning elections; nothing more. Immigrants are thelatest bone of contention of the gutter press. Bit late nowafter leaving the stable door open......

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free-world-logic 28.12.2013 09:17Tom B 28.12.2013 08:51

Do you feel Greenwald has not gotten enough

Western mass media, not only in the US and EU-Europe, are privately owned, profit basedmonopolies that censor what gets to make it into

the news/entertainment or not ...

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opportunity to make his case on CNN, NYT, WashingtonPost, Guardian, etc?

I can't remember a week where Greenwald and Snowdendid not get coverage or Greenwald didn't do liveinterviews on TV or in print.

For 'serving the security apparatus' that is an awful lot of direct coverage opportunities given. No?

Tom B 28.12.2013 08:51Western mass media, not only in the US and EU-Europe,are privately owned, profit based monopolies that censorwhat gets to make it into the news/entertainment or not,and serve the sinister purpose of enriching their ownersand the dumbing down and disinformation of thepeople.

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RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 08:45The foreign policy of a credible Government (not abanana Republic) has to follow LOGICAL path and stickto International Law. This obviously was NOT the case of the invasion of Iraq in 2003. And as long as those whocommitted this atrocity go unpunished, the evil act would

just get bigger. Smart people and history do NOT forgetaggression.

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free-world-logic 28.12.2013 08:38Greenwald 28.12.2013 07:17

Odd to say for a man that does about 10 to 40 TV andprint interviews on mainstream media a month. Seemslike he gets plenty of air time in the US and UK media tobe complaining that the media 'are servants of securityapparatus.'

I think Greenwald's true complaint is he is upset thatmany in the US and UK, though think some of thedomestic intel leaks are important, disagree withGreenwald on the scale and method of these leaks being

Greenwald: US, British media are servants of

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acceptable or right.

RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 08:05Mr. Greenwald criticised Brian Williams for not telling hisaudience the whole truth in regard to the Iranian positionabout its nuclear program. He is right. He is also right tostate that the media in the US and UK deceived thepublic about the Iraq war. However, Mr. Grennwald is notsaying here the complete truth. He did not talk about theBadr Brigades (supported by Iran) role in helping theAmericans to control Iraq. The late Hakim was a personalfriend of Cheney. Saddam, till the moment he died, wasconvinced that Iran & Israel played a major rule in theinvasion of 2003.

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james ford 28.12.2013 07:17Rt prints lots of news direct from the British media.Especially the Guardian

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stan2013 28.12.2013 06:57Of course, the Media, which is run by ZionistCorporations, is going to serve the Interests of a Gov't run

by the same. This is very old news. Not much of a storyhere, RT.

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Spiritus De Veritas 28.12.2013 05:57Doh, you don't say?

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Jack Foobar 28.12.2013 05:45

The NSA, FBI, BATFE, SS, and CIA exist to protectGovernment, not the People that pay them. That's theproblem. The pyramid has flipped in public and private.The producers are castigated and killed while the leechesget more brazen.

We are approaching a dislocation event that willprecipitate a Civil War. Obama is a foreign born muslim,communist, and sociopath. Hillary will be in office next,

and then it will snap. At this point, the FederalGovernment is going ALL harm and NO good for thepublic. It's a cancer.

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David Bruce James 28.12.2013 04:47I don't like NSA any more than all of you, but I do have aquestion. If NSA is so powerful why haven't those thathacked Target last month still free. Justify yourself NSA,there are a lot of bad guys out there that need to bebrought down, in stead you want to bug granny as shetalks to here great grand kids. Or are you just a bunch of thugs who want to frighten people.

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RockyFjord 28.12.2013 04:18The media became sycophantish when -- I think duringthe Reagan administration, but it was certainly wellensconced by the Bush I administration. Recall how every

journalist in America howled with the blood- thirsty packin 1991, and reported all the Madison Avenue lies thatKuwaiti money could buy, to a public equally ravenousfor Arab blood! The provocation was not the bloodlesscoup or puppet leader in Kuwait, but the realpolitik of Margaret Thatcher wanting to save BP oil interest, andBush wanting to end the Vietnam syndrome, etc, etc, adnauseam.

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KK Singh 28.12.2013 04:15Many of us getting shocked at the behaviour of media,specially the established ones, like BBC and CNN andothers, but this is due to our short-sightedness of understanding the media.Yes, media like any other apparatus of state is to protectthe interests of the big corporates and not the people!Moment we grasp this basic, everything is clear and thenafter calling media paid, irresponsible, biased looses themeaning!

RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 04:14We should also point out that Mr. Greenwald lists himself as a Jew, and he is a homosexual. Would that make him aZionist?

We say the former thing because of the new hystericMcCarthyism among some in classifying the world aseither pro-Mulalhs or Zionists.

The 2nd thing indicates that a person could be both

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homosexual and profoundly sincere and deeplythoughtful about important things in life, not as some tryto brand this small minority of people (less than 4% in allcountries outside the Gulf region countries).

MonsantoGoingDown 28.12.2013 04:03Finally someone other than Alex Jones has the balls to saythis. The Constitution has been suspended and Americansare slowly but surely slipping into martial law. BenFranklin put it well, "People willing to trade their freedomfor temporary security deserve neither and will lose both"

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jeff j 28.12.2013 03:58Snowden is a so called whistle blower so called"truther", and i ask what part of the truth do you notunderstand ?

RODRIGAZ ISA 28.12.2013 03:57Thanks to Germany for allowing Mr. Greenwald to speakin the conference, taking into account that Germany isstill under a form of military occupation. We doubt if thesame situation would be allowed to happen in a non-

western country if a journalist was talking about abusesof authorities in a different major power outside theWestern world.

Make no mistake, the Iraq war is the straw that broke thecamel back. Despite many more people killed in theVietnam war and the dropping of atomic bombs oncivilians was a despicable act, the Iraq war in 2003 was acase of pure naked aggression, and no investigation!

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Zeitgeisttt 28.12.2013 03:35Who cares what Judge Pauley considers legal, it is overfor the NSA zionist corporate spying espionage tool sincethe world will now find alternative answers to thismassive invasion of privacy....

Ashok Bhagat 28.12.2013 03:24I agree 100% with the author. In USA media, print and/orelectronic follow government line to the hilt.

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g br 28.12.2013 03:18to never question or challenge that which you disagreewith, coming from those in power allegedly supposed torepresent us, is called tyranny, not democracy.

in a free democracy, you are suppose to constantlyquestion those in power when they do things that areagainst public good, illegal, or just that which youdisagree with.

thats why theres suppose to be a senator from eachdistrict voting according to their constitutents, torepresent the majority.

w e have nothing close to a democracy. in a democracy,the wealth is not concentrated 92% into a thousandhands, and 8% into 349mil hands. thats tyranny.

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Jeff Jackson 28.12.2013 03:13in this regard , the last basin of freedom is the messageof Snowden and Greenwald. we all know that. lets act onit while we can.

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Billd 28.12.2013 01:57If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, peoplewill eventually come to believe it. The lie can bemaintained only for such time as the State can shield thepeople from the political, economic and/or militaryconsequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally importantfor the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, forthe truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus byextension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels

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Billd 28.12.2013 01:57"...the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell themthey are being attacked and denounce the pacifists forlack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. Itworks the same way in any country."

Hermann Goering, Nuremberg Trial

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R 28.12.2013 01:44This spying is all about stopping the people fromorganizing to protest against them. They will see itcoming and from whom, then the people will be chargedwith terr orism. I think this is another reason why they

want a kill switch for the cell networks and the internet.

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Bowen Daneliak 28.12.2013 01:15Apocalypse! Please!!!

Commander 28.12.2013 00:40News outlets in the western world, including newspapers

and television networks, are all controlled by the hugetransnational corporations. It has been this way forseveral decades now, as the neocons have taken fullcontrol of the information flow. Next on their agenda iscomplete control of the people and their thoughts.

I am so grateful for the existence of RT. However, the daymay come, when the Internet is controlled by the neoconsas well.

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Douglas Dewar 28.12.2013 00:29Spying on us all is not required for national security. Themotivation for spying on us all is to facilitate the rule of us all. So much for civil rights, so much for democracy, somuch for the nation state. It was nice while it lasted.

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Homosandcrooksusa 28.12.2013 00:20Homosandcrooks usa 27.12.2013 22:42

Is it a coincidence that this homosexual has thesame dual citizenship as Snow den? You can't sayJews because their lapdogs will call you anantisemitic Semite or a racist black man...It wouldbe good to know if these two are part of the Israeliblack mail against the changing american positiontowards their entangling alliances 'trustingally'...The truth would be good to hear for once onour lifetimes...all 360 degrees of it.

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FS B agent said: We could not contradict the Jews inRussia. They can destroy us too.

Homosandcrooksusa 28.12.2013 00:15Babeouf 27.12.2013 23:22

T he Kelts were trained by Rome (hence catholics)

So who trained to Anglo Sax barbarians? Could it be theladies and gentlemen of king Richard the Muslim hearttroops? Spanish armada had 2,300 ships fighting only 50broken protesting ships?

During their battles with Irish Republicans inNorthern Ireland the British Security servicesfunded protestant para- military death squads tomurder those suspected of aiding the Republicans.This process went on for about twenty years inNorthern Ireland a part of the UK. And in all thattime the BBC reported nothing of .

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