EMMA- INTERVIEWER ERIN- ADAM SMITH AVERY- TOM JOAD

WORKERS RIGHTS:

ADAM SMITH: INVISIBLE HAND, ECONOMY GUIDES ITSELF.

TOM JOAD: EQUAL RIGHTS, PAY ETC.

EMMA:

“WE WELCOME YOU TODAY, TO AN INTRICATE INTERVIEW WITH THE ONE THE ONLY ADAM SMITH, ALSO APPEARING TODAY IS TOM JOAD.

WE WILL BE DISCUSSING WORKERS RIGHTS AND THE TWO COMPLEX SIDES OF THE ISSUE.

LETS GIVE A WARM WELCOME TO THE FOUNDER OF THE INVISIBLE HAND PRINCIPLE, ADAM SMITH!“

ERIN:

“THANKS FOR HAVING ME, MS. V.”

EMMA:

“BEFORE WE GET GOING LETS BRING IN OUR LAST BUT NOT LEAST GUEST, TOM JOAD!

WELCOME TOM. WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO JOIN THE SHOW TODAY, AFTER SEEING ADAM SMITH WAS GOING TO BE JOINING US?”

AVERY:

“IT DON’T TAKE NO NERVE TO DO SOMEPIN WHEN THERE AINT NOTHIN ELSE YOU CAN DO.”

ERIN:

“WELL THERES ALWAYS SOMETHING TO DO, IF YOU WANNA MAKE SOMETHING OF YOUR SELF, THAT IS.”

EMMA:

“OH SNAP!

IF THERE WAS ONE SOLUTION OF GOING ABOUT BETTERING THE COUNTRY AND ITS ECONOMY, HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT DOING IT?”

ERIN:

“ALL MONEY IS A MATTER OF BELIEF. IT IS NOT BY AUGMENTING THE CAPITAL OF THE COUNTRY, BUT BY RENDERING A GREATER PART OF THAT CAPITAL ACTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE THAN WOULD

OTHERWISE BE SO, THAT THE MOST JUDICIOUS OPERATIONS OF BANKING CAN INCREASE THE INDUSTRY OF THE COUNTRY.”

AVERY:

“THE BANK IS SOMETHING MORE THAN MEN, I TELL YOU. IT'S THE MONSTER. MEN MADE IT, BUT THEY CAN'T CONTROL IT. THEY BREATHE PROFITS; THEY EAT THE INTEREST ON MONEY. IF THEY DON'T GET IT, THEY DIE THE WAY YOU DIE WITHOUT AIR, WITHOUT SIDE-MEAT."

ERIN:

“IT IS NOT FROM THE BENEVOLENCE OF THE BUTCHER, THE BREWER, OR THE BAKER, THAT WE EXPECT OUR DINNER, BUT FROM THEIR REGARD TO THEIR OWN INTEREST. WE ADDRESS OURSELVES, NOT TO THEIR HUMANITY BUT TO THEIR SELF-LOVE, AND NEVER TALK TO THEM OF OUR NECESSITIES BUT OF THEIR ADVANTAGES.

AVERY:

“IT AIN'T THAT BIG. THE WHOLE UNITED STATES AIN'T THAT BIG. IT AIN'T THAT BIG. IT AIN'T BIG ENOUGH. THERE AIN'T ROOM ENOUGH FOR YOU AN' ME, FOR YOUR KIND AN' MY KIND, FOR RICH AND POOR TOGETHER ALL IN ONE COUNTRY, FOR THIEVES AND HONEST MEN. FOR HUNGER AND FAT."

EMMA:

“REGARDLESS OF RICH AND POOR, IF EVERYONE IS ACTING OUT OF SELF INTEREST HOW IS THE COUNTRY EXPECTED TO PROSPER COLLECTIVLEY?

ERIN:

“"HOW SELFISH SOEVER MAN MAY BE SUPPOSED, THERE ARE EVIDENTLY SOME PRINCIPLES IN HIS NATURE, WHICH INTEREST HIM IN THE FORTUNE OF OTHERS, AND RENDER THEIR HAPPINESS NECESSARY TO HIM, THOUGH HE DERIVES NOTHING FROM IT, EXCEPT THE PLEASURE OF SEEING IT."

AVERY:

" WHEN PROPERTY ACCUMULATES IN TOO FEW HANDS IT IS TAKEN AWAY. AND THAT COMPANION FACT; WHEN A MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY AND COLD THEY WILL TAKE BY FORCE WHAT THEY NEED. AND THE LITTLE SCREAMING FACT THAT SOUNDS THROUGH ALL HISTORY: REPRESSION WORKS ONLY TO STRENGTHEN AND KNIT THE REPRESSED."

EMMA:

“THESE WORDS FROM BOTH OF YOU SEEM TO DISAGREE IN THE WAYS WHICH PEOPLE ARE MEANT TO PROSPER. ADAM SMITH SEEMS TO BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO ARE DESTINED TO HAPPINESS AND STRIVE TO ACHIEVE PROSPERITY, WILL INEVITABLEY DO SO. THAT IT IS EVERY MAN TO HIMSELF AND IT IS UP TO HIM TO ACHIEVE HIS AMBITIONS. MR. JOAD SEEMS TO ADDRESS THAT SOME ARE GIVEN BETTER OR WORSE CIRCUMSTANCES THAN OTHERS, AND THOSE WHO ARE STRONG STAY STRONG AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT REMAIN REPRESSED. “

ERIN:

“"EVERY INDIVIDUAL...GENERALLY, INDEED, NEITHER INTENDS TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC INTEREST, NOR KNOWS HOW MUCH HE IS PROMOTING IT. BY PREFERRING THE SUPPORT OF DOMESTIC TO THAT OF FOREIGN INDUSTRY HE INTENDS ONLY HIS OWN SECURITY; AND BY DIRECTING THAT INDUSTRY IN SUCH A MANNER AS ITS PRODUCE MAY BE OF THE GREATEST VALUE, HE INTENDS ONLY HIS OWN GAIN, AND HE IS IN THIS, AS IN MANY OTHER CASES, LED BY AN INVISIBLE HAND TO PROMOTE AN END WHICH WAS NO PART OF HIS INTENTION”

AVERY:

"MAN, UNLIKE ANY OTHER THING ORGANIC OR INORGANIC IN THE UNIVERSE, GROWS BEYOND HIS WORK, WALKS UP THE STAIRS OF HIS CONCEPTS, EMERGES AHEAD OF HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS."

EMMA:

“AND IT LOOKS LIKE ACCOMPLISHMENT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE’VE FOUND TODAY! I WANT TO THANK THE BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING ON THE SHOW TODAY AND PROVIDING US WITH SOME VERY INTRICATE ARGUMENTS. LET’S GIVE ‘EM A HAND!”

I’M MS. V, AND I WILL SEE YYYOOOUUU NEXT WEEK!