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Hundreds of real personal accounts ofGroup Discussions and Personal Interviews

during MBA admissions to Indias best business schools.

In this edition: The IIMs at Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Calcutta, Lucknow,Indore & Kozhikode.

Written byLoads of MBA aspirants

Compiled byThe PaGaLGuY MadCapz Team

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What this book is about

What is a real IIM interview like? What kind of questions do they ask and what judgments do applicants have to make while answering them?

Since 2003, those with real Group Discussion and Personal Interview calls from Indias top b-schools have been posting entire and detailed transcripts of their admission interviews immediately after they happen, so that others slotted for later interviews can learn what GDPI is going to be like this year.

This book is a collection of dozens of handpicked GDPI experiences from the countrys top b-schools during the admission years 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010. In this edition, we have included over 180 GDPI experiences from the admission processes of IIM Ahmedabad, IIM Bangalore, IIM Calcutta, IIM Indore, IIM Lucknow and IIM Kozhikode.

A team of 33 volunteers, who are themselves at some stage of the MBA admissions process, were asked to make the selections based on what seemed most interesting and characteristic of a b-school to them.

Who this book is for

Those with GDPI calls from b-schools included in this book will benefit from this work the most. But the book will be an interesting read all the same for those who are planning to take a go at MBA admissions in the next season and would like to know where the process of cracking a tough entrance exam eventually leads to.

How to read this book

As the book is a collection of 150+ individual discussion forum posts stitched together. Expect a huge variation in writing styles, shorthands and semantic flow. In order to retain the flavour of the story the way they wanted to tell it, we have edited the stories minimally. Without the slang, the occasional Hindi words or the typos, you will not enjoy the transcripts.

A visual guide to reading the experiences follows in the next few pages.

Written'byLoads'of'MBA'Aspirants

Compiled'byThe'PaGaLGuY'MadCapz'Group

Hundreds(of(real(personal(accounts(ofGroup'Discussions'&'Personal'Interviewsduring(MBA(admissions(to(Indias(best(B9schools


Hundreds of real personal accounts ofGroup Discussions and Personal Interviews

during MBA admissions to Indias best business schools.

In this edition: The IIMs at Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Calcutta, Lucknow,Indore & Kozhikode.

Written byLoads of MBA aspirants

Compiled byThe PaGaLGuY MadCapz Team

GD-PIPaGaLGuY.com

Anthology

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Copyright 2011, PaGaLGuY.com

All text and content in this document is solely owned by PaGaLGuY.com. Reproduction without permission in any form or means is illegal.

Get your own Free personalized copy (with your name on it) of this book fromhttp://www.pagalguy.com/books/


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What this book is about

What is a real IIM interview like? What kind of questions do they ask and what judgments do applicants have to make while answering them?

Since 2003, those with real Group Discussion and Personal Interview calls from Indias top b-schools have been posting entire and detailed transcripts of their admission interviews immediately after they happen, so that others slotted for later interviews can learn what GDPI is going to be like this year.

This book is a collection of dozens of handpicked GDPI experiences from the countrys top b-schools during the admission years 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010. In this edition, we have included over 180 GDPI experiences from the admission processes of IIM Ahmedabad, IIM Bangalore, IIM Calcutta, IIM Indore, IIM Lucknow and IIM Kozhikode.

A team of 33 volunteers, who are themselves at some stage of the MBA admissions process, were asked to make the selections based on what seemed most interesting and characteristic of a b-school to them.

Who this book is for

Those with GDPI calls from b-schools included in this book will benefit from this work the most. But the book will be an interesting read all the same for those who are planning to take a go at MBA admissions in the next season and would like to know where the process of cracking a tough entrance exam eventually leads to.

How to read this book

As the book is a collection of 150+ individual discussion forum posts stitched together. Expect a huge variation in writing styles, shorthands and semantic flow. In order to retain the flavour of the story the way they wanted to tell it, we have edited the stories minimally. Without the slang, the occasional Hindi words or the typos, you will not enjoy the transcripts.

A visual guide to reading the experiences follows in the next few pages.


Acknowledgments

Just as the content in this book is a collective effort of the community, so is the editing and collation. A young and enthusiastic team of volunteers from across the country helped compile this book. Their names are,

The PaGaLGuY MadCapz Team - Led by Rohit Awasthi (estranged_gnrs) and Satwinder Singh (Satwinder)

Abhinav Agrawal (arion5)Akanksha Sharma (adept)Amar Naik (anaik100)Anand Jhunjhunwala (AnandJJ)Anwesa Nanda (anwesa09)Appurv Kathuria (appurvkathuria)Apurv Patel (Apurv Patel)Ashok Khatana (khatana)Ashwani Grewal (grewal.ashwani)Avneet Sethi (MBAvirus)Bharadwaj (EagleMenace)Brij Dwivedi (Monnu )Dhiresh Daga (dhiresh1009)Gaurav Jha (gauravjha)Indranil Chowdhury (Neil)Jaydeep Ghose (superchiku)Karthikeyan (caartey)Keerthi Koch (keerthi_koch)Kinjal Das (kinji@PG)Namita Kapaley (urvashi.kapale)Neha Seth (neha.visionary)Rishabh Mathur (rishabh3374)Ritesh Girdhar (c@t)Sada Sivam (sadasiv)Santosh Lakshman M (luckymurari)Sarath Kurup (rebzin)Shruti Verma (sweetgalshruti)Siddarth Chowdhary (id2222000)Somaditya Basak (sbk1337)Vaibhav Goel (goelsvaibhav)Vibhav Kamat (hotculture)Vivek Arora (v!vek@rora)

Back at the PaGaLGuY HQ, the following people contributed to the book,

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Not least, wed like to thank all the PaGaLGuY members whove been contributing their GD-PI experiences to PaGaLGuY every year. You people have no idea how exponentially helpful your contributions have ended up being to newer MBA applicants over the years.


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How to use this book

Each chapter contains GD-PI experiences for one b-school

The GD-PI experiences are arranged by forward chronology

Username of the poster

GD Experience

PI experience. Each experience usually starts with a short introduction of the people in the room.


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Table of contents

IIM Ahmedabad - Year 2005! 11






IIM Bangalore - Year 2005! 105






IIM Calcutta - Year 2005! 176






IIM Lucknow - Year 2005! 260






IIM Kozhikode - Year 2005! 353







IIM Indore - Year 2005! 455






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Indian Institute of Management,Ahmedabad

Interview experiences during the admission seasons between 2005 and 2010

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IIM Ahmedabad - Year 2005

Interview experience of: Rahul Abraham MammanBackground: B.Com Third Year. Also involved in my family business which includes a pharmacy and a health and beauty store.Academics:10Th C.B.S.E 89.212TH C.B.S.E 86.4B.Com 74 (But thats because English and Hindi were added., CGPA would be 8.7 relative to the University topper)CAT Summary:OA-99.87, VA-99.09, QA-99.7, DI-97.55

GDFirst was the GD. There were 2 girls and six guys including me. We were given about 20 minutes to interact before the interview, that was a good experience.

The GD started off well, all of us spoke, contributed and our brainstorming seemed to be good. None of us seemed to be having any problem with each other. All points discussed were good and many were added on to the original points too.

PI Then came the PI. I was number 8. I had not given my certificate copies yet. They told me that I should provide them at the time of my interview. So everyone had a decent interview with a Major C who apparently, had with 17 years of Army experience and 100 percentile in CAT. Finally it was my turn.One of the professors came out and called my name. I went in with a smile and wished them all, they all seemed nice guys.

First question to me (I dont remember who asked me what. I will try and provide below as accurate an account as possible).

Q: What is one difficulty and one good thing about holding the GD PI at this venue, which is a new block?A: Sir, the good thing was that I could come through the underpass. Though I feel they could have had a straight passage but walking through the underpass was indeed a great experience and there were a lot of things about IIM A in that passage which were really informative. The only difficulty I encountered was that it was too far from the entrance and I did get a bit lost at first.

Q: Are you from Ahmedabad?A: No Sir, I am from Cochin (The professor seemed a little surprised).

Q: Why did you give IIM A as your centre?A: It has been my dream to be in IIM A. I have heard through people and read a lot about IIM A. I know it is the best institute and I wanted to experience it firsthand and get the feeling of being here. I also have a few friends in IIM A.

Q: Did you do the same for IIM C?A: No sir, I have only done that for IIM A.

Q: So what are you doing now? A: I am in my third year of B.Com.

Q: What is your favorite subject?A: I m reasonably comfortable with Capital Markets.

Q: What are capital markets?A: It is the market for the buying and selling of shares and Debentures. It is the market through which the capital for the companies is raised.

Q: What is a stock?

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A: It is a certificate giving ownership of the company; the owner can be given dividends when the company makes profits.

Q: Why do people give money for these pieces of paper like debentures?A: These debentures carry a fixed rate of return and the holders of these debentures will definitely get a certain fixed income in the form of money every year. It can also be of a redeemable form.

Q: But why do they still accept these papers and nothing else is given?A: Sir, these certificates have legal validity and they can be enforced by law hence it is quite a safe instrument to invest in.

Q: What is the IPO market?A: Its the market for Initial Public Offering and it is when the company issues shares for the first time.

Q: What is Primary market?A: It includes private placements and IPO is a part of the Primary market.

They asked me a little more in detail about the differences between Primary and IPO Markets. I told them that this is what I knew and was sure that there is more to it.

Q: What are bonus shares? A: The shares issued by the company free of cost to its shareholders is known as bonus shares. They are issued sometimes in lieu of dividend when the company has not been paying any cash dividend.

Q: Are bonus shares issued by companies which havent given any dividends so far?A: Not only that but it is also issued by companies which have a good deal of reserves after the capitalisation also, even if they have been giving a lot of dividends so far.

Q: Are all share holders treated separately in terms of dividend payouts?A: No sir. The preference shareholders are treated differently. They get only a fixed rate of return on their shares.

Q: What about the other share holders? Can a particular company not give dividend to a group of the shareholders?A: No that is not possible. All shareholders have to be given equal treatment and dividend if given, should be given to every single shareholder.

Q: Suppose a company wants to make a fresh issue what will it do?A: It will have to approach the company law board get its permission and then can issue shares in the markets. It can go in for rights issue where the present owners are given the right to purchase the shares first.

Q: What would your company do if you wanted to list in the stock exchange?A: First get the approval from the Company Law Board. Meet all legal requirements also approach the stock exchange and get permission so that you can list it on the stock exchange.

Q: What is deferred tax?A: (I started speaking on accounting tax and stopped and said that I was not sure but I could speak about deferred revenue expenditure is, if needed.

Q: Ok, but what is miscellaneous expenditure?A: I talked about what it is and how it comes about.

Q: Which head does it come under?A: I said these are shown sometimes in the balance sheet under the asset side, these are actually fictitious assets.

Q: What counterbalances it on the liability side?A: I dont know that sir. (I used my hand to show the side on the balance sheet and they joked about it and I smiled too.)

Q: What is your family business?A: It is a pharmacy in Cochin sir. We also have a lifestyle store which stocks baby care, cosmetics, perfumes and a lot of Ayurvedic stuff.

Q: What is the return on investment?A: The ROI is about 20 percent.


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Q: What are the trade deals given in Cochin for the pharmacy?A: The pharmacy is given 30 days of credit and also 4 percent discount on ready cash.

Q: What role does the association play in the state?A: (I talked about the margins we get because of the association)

Q: What is the margin in the other states?A: Same margins in Kerala.

Q: How does the association help then?A: It makes sure that we get 20 percent margin on a new product and old margins exist. Also because of our association, we can return our medicines on time of expiry and within three months and get the money back.

Q: Why do you have two different stores, cant you have them together?A: I talk about numerological reasons and also about two different classes of customers being attracted to different shops.

Q: How does the second store works?A: I explained it is a volume business with high value low number of bills at all.

Q: How are your margins normally?A: About 18-20 percent.

Q: So is that what you meant by ROI?A: I explained saying that it is not what I meant and told them the original ROI was indeed correct.

Q: What do you mean by the Tie and Die method?A: I dont know about that Sir.

Q: How is curd made?A: (I gave milk and curd gyaan)

Q: Which of it has microbes?A: Curd.

Q: Are they alive?A: I think Sir.

Q: What is this process called?A: Fermentation.

Q: How is it related to the Pharma industry?

A: (I knew about Insulin). It can be used to make red wine capsules.I talked about how the dried powder is made into the capsule form.

Q: What are these used for?A: For preventing heart diseases.

Q: How is the powder made?A: By drying it up after the fermentation process.

Q: How it is made into the capsule?A: The powder is then encapsulated. Q: What are your other interests?A: I m a member of the Numismatic Society (They confirmed whether it was about coins itself ).

Q: Why do you collect coins?A: Its a passion, knowledge gathering experience (gave more gyaan).

Q: Where do you get the coins from?A: From the antique shops and also by exchanging with friends in my society.


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Q: Which is the oldest coin that you have seen?A: A BC silver roman coin.

Q: Didnt you picked it up?A: Sir it was too expensive and I didnt had Rs 3,500 at that time.

Q: Is it still there in that shop?A: I have not gone for some time to that shop. Im not too sure sir.

Q: So tell us what have you learnt about coins?A: Where and which countries ruled others, the cultures for eg. France ruled Algeria...(I really dont know why I said that).

Q: Where is Algeria?A: North Africa.

Q What is its currency?A: Francs.

Q: When did Algeria got its independence?A: I dont know for sure sir...(One of the panelists asked what was the point in collecting coins if I did not know the date of independence of Algeria. I defended myself by giving information on a lot on commorative coins and their importance).

Q: What are these double metal coins? (Coins with two colours)A: I explained to them and then one of the panelists asked me about any contemporary double metal coin that I might know. I talked about the euro and the 2 pound coins which are double metal coins.

Q: Did you win the table tennis title for the district?A: Yes Sir.He asked for my certificates, looked at them all and said that I had done extra stuff only in school.

Then I showed him my College (Commerce) stuff but added that since I did not have the certificates, Idid not write much about it. They seemed satisfied I dont know why.

Overall it was a purely knowledge-based interview.

(Converted and Joined IIMA)


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Interview experience of: Vikas Kumar Background: IIT KanpurAcademics:CPI 8.499.99 percentile Six Calls

GD Since we were only six people (2 people did not come ) and one did not speak, we had ample time. I made few good entries and would rate the performance as OK.

PIThree panel members....P1, P2, P3. P1 used to smile a lot, P2 kept looking at my certificates and P3 did not seem to be interested!

P1: So Vikas many IITK students have come today? Have you studied together?A: Yes sir, everyone has been called today only. No, I have done self study for CAT (lied big time).

P1: Ok. let say I have to find out the number of individuals getting calls from at least one IIM. How will you estimate the number?A; Sir, I will take the data of coaching institutes, (explained a bit. But I had a flaw in my logic which was pointed out by him). I took some 15 seconds after that) and then said that I would do some sampling. I will make segments of different percentiles and different profiles. Based on the sample I could extrapolate the value.

P1: Smiling, Ok, so what will be the sample size?A: Sir, since I presume that the estimation need not be very accurate, a sample size of 5% of the population seems good to me.

P1: seemed satisfied. Ok what is the time complexity of quick sort?A: talked of worst case and average case.

P1: (Then asked me 3-4 counter questions on algorithm time complexity).A: (I answered all well and confidently (I guess!)

P2: Vikas, we have heard so much of developed economy. What defines an economy as developed one?A: (I spoke about the Human Development Index)

P2: What is per capita income?A: GDP/Population later said its NNP/Population

P2: What is the difference between GDP and NNP?A: (I Answered correctly)

P2: Name the top 3 country with the highest per capita income?A: Sir, I do not know but at least one Scandinavian country is there.

P2: What are Scandinavian countries?A: Norway, Finland and Sweden.

P2: Are you sure?A: Yes Sir (later came to know that Denmark is also there)

P2: Name the state with the lowest literacy rate?A: Bihar

P2: What is the literacy rate of Bihar?A: 47 %

P2: Female and Male literacy rate of Bihar?A: Around 35-40 % for females and 55% for males.


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P2: Name another basis to distinguish between literacy rates?A: Since Bihar is quite caste and class conscious, this can be a good basis (wanted further discussion but they had other ideas).

P2: Hightest literacy?A: Kerala

P2: Second Highest Literacy rate?A: Mizoram.P2: Highest literacy rate?

P2: What is the literacy rate?A: Around 90 %(88% is the correct answer).

P2: He did not seem to be satisfied

P3: (wakes up from his sleep) Name two active areas of research in computer science?A: (I spoke about grid computing and next generation of computers based on AI.)

P3 and P1: What is intelligence or AI?A: Sir, since I have not done any course on AI, I may not be accurate but I think it is anything that mimics human intelligence should be an intelligent system (what a stupid answer!), and then talked of neural networks which I had heard from my friend at IITK.

P3: Suppose you are sent to a village what will be the power source for your computer?A: Sir, solar power though I am not very sure?

P3: Why you are not sure?A: May not be economically feasible.

P3: Ok. go on!A: Sir, UPS.

P3: How will that be recharged?A: Sir, solar power.

P3: Any other power source?A:I cant think of any other source.

P3: Should there be promotion of IT in villages?A: Yes sir.

P3: Why?A: Weather reports and cropping patterns.

P3: One can get the same information from newspapers?A: Sir, but it will not be real time weather report?

P3: (Amused) Do you mean to say that if there is going to rain in the next hour, you will change the cropping pattern.A: Realised my mistake... and tried to cover it up by talking of getting good market information about the inputs for farming and the final produce.

P3: But if the people are not literate how will they use them?A: Sir, we can have a system installed for a group of villages and an operator for each system. A villager can approach the operator to get any information.

P3: Ok, give me the speed of the fastest memory?


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A: (Did not get what he was saying, took some time and assuming something I came out with some answer after some analysis. Was expecting them to pound me after this but it seemed either they did not know or they were not interested in the answer.)

P3: Integrate (e)^(e)^x?A: Was not expecting and did some stupid rough work.

P3: (Quickly taking the sheet back) Do you like maths?A: Yes Sir.

P2: Why did your CPI decrease in the 3rd year?A: Talked of my projects.

P2: Can you justify such a steep fall (7.8 in 3rd year and 9.0 in 1st and 2nd year) based on your projects.A: (Gave some more crap)

P1: Vikas, you got a 38 rank in IIT and 0.1 % merit certificate in English? Which do you think is a greater achievement?A: IIT has opened lots of opportunities for me (and gave some more crap)

P1: Talk about your personal satisfactions.A: (Gassed some more).

P1: (Smiling) Thank you!

P2: Ok. One last question. Name the states through which river Kaveri passes?A: Tamil Nadu and Karnataka?

P2: AP?A: Not sure, but probably a narrow stretch

P1: (Smiling) what about Kerala and Maharashtra?A: No Sir

P1: Ok, thanks.Seeing that they have not offered me chocolates, I started taking one

P2 I am sorry please take two.A: Thanks sir.

That was it. I committed far too many blunders and was expecting some questions on current affairs, my projects and BTP. This is the only hope after a truly disastrous performance in IIM C.

(Converted the call, Joined IIMA)


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Interview experience of: PaGuY

GD: Case was about a bicycle manufacturer wanting to manufacture racing cycles. Advertisement has Ajay Jadeja saying "This is the only muscle I use" (pointing to his thumb). You are the MD and you have to either change the ad or continue with it. What would you do?

Had a decent GD. Everyone was pretty active but nobody really dominated. Not a fish market but could have become one had people gone one step further.

PI:

(P1, P2, P3 are the people on the interview panel and M stands for me)Some confusion about my form. They picked up Gaurav's form instead of Saurabh's. Finally resolved.P1: So Saurabh, now that all confusion about your Blue form is resolved, what are you doing currently?M: Sir I am doing an internship at blah blah blah.

P1: (looking at the form): Why did you leave the other company? You have also taken a paycut? Its almost half your original salary.M: Sir I would have liked to stay with my previous.

P1: Oh so they threw you out? You were fired??M: Sir, they were sending me to Israel for a period of 6 months and

P1: So you should have gone na. You could have made some good bonuses and saved a lot of money.M: Yes sir, but that did not match with my long term goal. If I had gone there I would not have been able to appear for the interview.

P1: Oh, you could have gone and just asked us. We could have taken your interview on a weekend. Just come back on a weekend, give your interview and go back. With the technology and communication blah blah.P2: hmm.. but you would have had to come for half a dozen interviews.M (just for a second I got confused what half a dozen means ): Yes sir.

P1: No, how much time does it take to fly from here to Israel?M: Sir I am not sure, but my guess would be somewhere between 7-8 hours.

P1: So you could have come easily na M (Thought about asking "would you pay for it!"): Sir I am not sure my manager would have allowed me to come back six times.

P1 to P3: You can take his. I will join in later. (Silence. No one's saying anything and I am staring at P2) (Then P3 shows one of my certificates from IIMA to P1).P1: Oh, so did you visit IIMA for this.M: Sir, this was the Level 1 competition wherein we had to just give the idea.

P1: But you would have come for the award ceremony.M: Sir, we were informed late and hence could not make it to the award ceremony.

P1: Oh, so you dont even know whether you actually won or not?M: Sir,

P1: But the prizes weren't declared immediately?M: Sir, this was the idea presentation wherein we had to give the business plan summary and based on that, results were declared 2 months later.

P1: Oh otherwise I would have known you.


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P2: So Saurabh, have you worked on your idea further.M: Sir I have talked to a few people about my idea. But I realise that I need to develop business skills before I start my company. I know the technology is good. I know my idea has commercial potential. So I dont want to waste it. I want to market it properly. There are aspects of business I have no clue about hence after acquiring business skills I will start my company.

P1: Oh. So do you have any classmates at IIMA?M: No sir. But I know a few seniors and a few juniors at IIMA.

P1: Did you talk to them.M: Sir I've spoken to one of my seniors there and I have also spoken to a couple of IIMA pass outs in my company.

(a big silence again).

P2: So you've done electrical engineering. Have you done any courses on basic Physics?M (very reluctantly): Yes Sir. I've done a course on mechanics and a course on Electromagnetic. (After a pause) and a course on quantum mechanics.

P2: Something to do with theory of relativity?P2: So Saurabh, a lot of people define Theory of Relativity saying that everything is relative. Isnt that very superficial?M: Sir, I do not remember much about the Theory of Relativity, but yes.

P2: repeats the question.M: Yes Sir, defining it that way would be very superficial.

P2: So how would you define it?M: Sir, I do not remember much about it.

P2: OK. Tell me about the Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.M: Sir, at the most basic level it says that the product of Energy and position of a particle has an uncertainty associated with it. I do not remember the value of the constant but..

P2: OK. So whats so basic about it? How else can you define it?M: Sir I am not sure, but uncertainty is associated with some other (quantities) as well.

P2: OK. Who gave the periodic table?M: (I thinks for a while) Sir, I dont remember.

P3: OK Saurabh, you know about the population of India and China. They have highest populations. But there is some difference with their population control policy?M: Sir, in China they have the 1 child norm. We in India had the 2 child norm. What they say "Hum do hamare do" but now we are also moving towards the one child norm.

P3: Any other difference?P3: In the way they implement their 1 child norm and we our "Hum do hamare do 'M: (Was not really sure it was about the forceful implementation in China) Blank

P3: Ok Saurabh, now lets say over a period of 25 years China avoids 200 million child births. You know the severe punishments they have and penalties. So what effect will it have on the economy?M: (Start explaining the inverted pyramids and then talk about productivity (use it in place of product) and then correct it to product). I am assuming that the productivity i.e. the technology remains the same. So productivity is constant.

P3: Is that right to assume it?


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M: No Sir. That would be a bad assumption to make. In fact I would like the technology to grow at a good rate. But Sir even if we assume that the productivity has increased, we can safely assume that the needs of the people would also have increased.

P3: So what happens then?M: (I explains the inverted pyramid again)

P2: Saurabh you've written about these dramatics and cultural events and managing people and conflict resolving. How do you resolve conflicts?M: Sir, resolving conflicts is all about... Sir actually it is much better to avoid conflicts than to resolve them. If everyone is given due hearing and due importance there will be no conflict.

P2: Yes, but that would be an ideal situation. That doesn't happen in real life. Does it? How did you resolve conflicts?M: Sir I agree it doesnt happen in real life. I believe in talking to people and making their colleagues and friends talk to them. In fact I was lucky that in this particular case only 2-3 conflicts were there. I believe that one should resolve the conflicts as soon as they come to your notice. Because if a person sulks then he only aggravates the injury. I would talk to him and make him realise the common goal rather than the personal goals.

P1: So what are you working on currently?P2: He's working for blah blah.P1: Yes, but that is only for a very short period. He's not expected to know much about it. What were you working on earlier?M: Sir I was working for blah blah earlier. Now, I am working for blah blah and doing a project for blah blah (It was very clear I wanted them to ask questions about my present work).

P1: But you've joined recently na. We should ask you about your previous job.P2: What were you doing there? You talk about some presentations, demonstrations, competitive product evaluation? What is this competitive evaluation??M: (I explained).

P1: OK, so you've done this Dual degree. What is it?M: Sir, its a five year course and after 5 years you get both B.Tech and M.Tech degrees.

P1: So what have you? You got an electrical engineering degree?M (I am clearly trying to avoid questions on Electrical): Sir I've done M.Tech in Microelectronics.

P1: But B.Tech is in electrical engineering.M: Sir, the main.

P1: You must have done some courses in electrical engineering.M: Yes sir (very reluctantly).

P1: So tell me about Kirchhoffs Law.M: (I explain with paper and pen)

P1: No, dont draw any circuits. We'll do that later.M: I explains.

P1: So draw any LCR circuit. Put one of them in parallel. Apply AC source. Now apply KVL and KCL.M: (I write the equations).

P1: So how will you solve these equations?M: Sir, we can solve it by using Laplace Transforms.

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M: Sir, we'll first transform them into Laplace domain.

P1: What is domain? What transform?M: Sir, currently they are in time domain.

P1: What domain?M: Sir currently they vary with time. They are a function of time.

P1: That I've already told you.P1: Don't give me all your domains and stuff. How will you solve it?M: Sir, we can either solve it directly by solving the differential equations in time domain or by Laplace Transform.

P1: So what sort of equation will you solve?M: Sir they will be 2nd order differential equations.

P1: How?M: Sir when we substitute the 2nd equation into the 1st one, we get a double differential.

P1: Anything else about these equations? What sort of a solution do you expect?M: Sir, something like e^(at).

P1: No dont assume anything. Did I give you anything about the voltage? What sort of equation are these?M; Sir they are linear differential equations.

P1: Anything else about them? You've done a lot of courses in maths. In fact you've a special course on differential equations.P1: Do you remember simple equations?M: No sir.

P1: Why is this equation simple?M: (I say nothing)

P1: OK. Tell me about your other method. Dont give me your domains and transforms.M: Sir can I take a minute to think?

P1: Yes but dont take more than 1 minute.P2: (walks out).P1: Do you mind sharing with me what you are writing?M: Sir we will first multiply the whole equation by e^ (-st) and then integrate with respect to it.

P1: Tell me 2 properties about Laplace Transform and then you can go. (pauses). OK Tell me one.M: (I say nothing)

P1: No? OK you can go. Take your toffee.P3: Best of luck for the other interviews.M: Thank you sir. (I forgets to pick the toffee)

I know it wasnt a good interview. Just hope they were not just testing the subject knowledge.

(Converted, joined IIMA)


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Interview experience of: khotahimachalliAcademics: 10th--88.4 CBSE12th--90.8 CBSE (PCM)GRAD (BE Electronics)--till now 80 %--university topper CAT--99.77--A B K only due to 89 in DI.

PI: So now, something about my PI. There were 3 persons, (no female) on the panel I will refer to them as SI (for the South Indian chap around 36 yrs old, bearded n all. He ushered me in and then was absent for about for 5 mins. ONG (for the old person who seemed like a nice guy, very soft spoken and intellectual looking, probably a Bong. MTE (for the moustached tech expert, should be around 47 years of age asked loads of question on technology.Oops! forgot to add myself KH (for khotahimachali)

Now I entered the room dot at 11 0'clock and too my seat.ONG: so Mr. Kaushik you have come all the way from Nagpur to Delhi??KH: Yes Sir I have (shhh what a first question)ONG: Why??

KH: Sir, Mumbai which is nearest to Nagpur, is not a center (are kisi ko malum hai kya why?? )MTE: (Interrupts in between) what about Ahmedabad??KH: I discussed about how Delhi is known to me since I am from Himachal Pradesh and have been to Delhi loads of time, it is also near (some 3.33 hrs)ONG: So what is your Final year project on ??KH: (Mare gaye..though earlier sacred lambs had talked about this particular ceremony at the altar, so was prepared) Image Processing Sir. ONG: Very interesting! Being a mechanical engineer why did you take it??KH: Sir, but I am an electronics engineer!(what is this ???)ONG: Oohhh. Will ask about the project later. At this moment tell us about some latest developments in the electronics field??KH: (Yaar, I cannot describe in words how glad I was on being let off the project thing)in communication or core electronics?ONG: Anything, do you know about nanotechnology??KH: No SirONG: Heard of N-log, it is a companyKH: NaahONG: Ok. Ok. Tell me about BluetoothKH: Well, I know about Bluetooth, IrDA, ISDN....First of all let me tell you about Bluetooth..(blah blah blah

loads of gyaan for around 4 minutes with them appearing quite interested though I myself had started getting bored. Iin the meantime, SI came in and asked for my certificates from MTE who had gone through them earlier. Taking this opportunity MTE barges into the interview.

MTE: So which subject did you like the best??KH: (Ab bakra katega:grab:) Microprocessors..

MTE: why??KH: Because I like it. (I said something about it being contemporary).

MTE: Contemporary. (Looks at other panelists with an evil smile playing on his lips)--so what latest processors do you know about??KH: told them about RISC ones like PAT-100, supersparc and others.

MTE: what about P4??KH: Sir I know not much in detail just the basic architecture.

MTE: Go onKH: (I told them about bus and address lines..was asked some on bus-what it is and some more..dont remember exactly)

MTE: So do you have any idea about the number of transistors on the chip of P4(this followed because I said something about VLSI)


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KH: Sir I dont know exactly but around 10^12 I guess

MTE: Give me some name for that quantity?KH: Million, Billion

MTE: Some otherKH: 1000 giga??

(The panel laughs)

KH: (Sheepishly now) I recall it vis tera

MTE: So what is the size of the chip??KH: Around 5cm*3.5*1mm (just said some numbers) actually the processor chip looks like (and showed them by drawing in the air the approx size)

MTE: (From my aerial drawing) are you sure that much is 5 cm??KH: No sir I think I was wrong then, it is around 1.5 inches

MTE: how much is an inch??KH: It is 2.54 cms (now I am thinking yeh kahan aa gaye hum!!!)

SI: Also in your form you have said that you filling this form is no small fry (this I had given in the accomplishment question)KH: Yup Sir, (gave SOME gyaan ABOUT IIM a being great institute and as a third person you rely on surveys and that recently it figured in top 100 of world...)

SI: Which survey? KH: I do not recall sir

SI: Anyone will say anything to you and you will believe it??KH: Naah (am I that a moron ). I read in a reputed magazine and just cannot recall the name of the survey company.

MTE: So 10^12 transistors on 5*3.5 area chip!!!KH: Yes sir, use of VLSI and nanotech enables that

MTE: Ok, take this piece of paper and calculate how much area each transistor will get??KH: (I did it and got something like 10^-16 for each)

MTE: What is the radii of an atom??KH: I do not know exactly but somewhat in range of angstroms.

MTE: So what is an angstrom??KH: Around 10^-10 cm

MTE: So we are getting less area than an atom. How do P4 people make it happen?KH: Sir as I mentioned earlier I do not know much about P4 --we only studied 8085 in my college(Smiles around the panel)

SI: You still study 8085??KH: (With a shrug--oye mai ki karan je college ke pas paise nahin hain:huh: ??)yup we do?

ONG: Can you tell me about its architecture?KH: (I again go on a rampage for around 2 minutes and lots of questions were asked in between about multiplexing of buses and the lot. I would not dare to mention herenahin to baki junta maregi. Electronics guys can PM me if that interested...)

SI: So, in your form you have written one of your favorite authors is ENID BLYTON??(the whole panel is again smiling--am I a joker ?)KH: Yes sir she is !!!

SI: But she writes children's booksKH: Sir I am still very much a child and besides she writes really great.


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SI: So which series of hers do you like best?KH: Famous five

SI: Can you name them?KH: (I did that)

SH: So are these books good for children??KH: Yes sir they are.

S: ExplainKH: Well, as a beginner (blah blah and ended with that she writes about food a lot and children love food...)

SI: Do they really??KH: Well Sir, I like and still do a lot and my friend circle did..

(again smiles all around--mai aisa kyun hoon??)

SI: So do you know any author of children's books from India??KH: Uhhhhh there is this author who lives in Mussorie --yaahh Ruskin Bond

SI: Is he an Indian?KH: Yup he took Indian citizenship long time back...

SI: Any other?KH: nahh

SI: Well there has been someone who has been in the news recently regarding Indian citizenshipKH: Yup it was Tasleema Nasreen.

SI: Who is she?KH: (I gave stuff about her and talked about the controversy about her book..seeing the look on SI's face said --"but I do not know the name of her book"(again smiles all around--man I am fed up of this)

SI: So you have written in your form about heat stroke (I had given some stuff about how in Nagpur I usually get heat strokes once every year--this in response to some problem question).Can you explain to me about it??KH: (Gave some gyan about what happens to me when I have it)

SI: Not about general public, the theory behind it?KH: (I gave some crap about heat flow and all in the end said I did not know. I just have loads of headaches...(Look at each other and decide the poor chap has had enough...)

ONG: So you may leave now--(points to the toffee bowl--now I have a question while I was waiting for my turn everyone had said that they were giving chocolates so I was waiting for some Dairy Milk or atleast a Perk, but these were plain old Eclairs--sheesh)--take some. MOI TAKES ONEONG: Come on take one more..KH: (I cannot say I hate Eclairs --so take 2/3 more and leave after doing the usual BS)

It took 21 minutes and 38 seconds and I liked it--the panel was nice and helped me along. I kept my mug beaming with smiles at times and never stressed out.

Also would like to mention one thing. M father saw some IIFT seniors rushing to their classes with dry bread pieces in their mouths and not even a dollop of jam or sauce in it and sheesh talking of breakfast, bread..Yuk I hate bread... peeps n is this the scenario in B-schools that you do not get time to eat properly even..mujhe dar lag raha hai. I love my food.... and it seems if I get through any B-school I am going to disappear in thin air--my father was having a good laugh over it all the way back ..

(Converted, joined IIMA)


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Interview experience of: cattysylvester

Academics: I scored a 98.88 %ile in CAT (EU 99.54, Q:96.35 DI: 71.92). X : 91.4% XII : 89% Graduated last year. B Com (H). Aggregate of 66%. No work experience. Decent extra-curricular (but no Qs asked: huh:)

Hey everyone,

I had my IIMA GD and interview today at 2:00 pm. It seems today was a day reserved for the non-engineers as all the people I met were either with commerce or economics background. This is going to be a long post, so I better get right to the point.

I was in a group of nine people; I was at number 4. Three girls, rest non-girls . The case was a simple one with not too many figures. X comes to India in 1947, starts a sweet shop. He sources his raw materials from two close friends. Business is successful. Costs increase over the years, but X does not increase prices very much; so profits are dipping. Xs son Y is an MBA grad or something. Last diwali, X hands over family business to Y. Y immediately switches to two other suppliers who offer him good discounts. Ys daughter Z has a party at school. Y provides packed sweets for 270 kids. By midnight, 30 have fallen ill and are hospitalised. Principal and parents are up in arms. Former threatens legal action against Y. What should Y do?

I began the GD and outlined a basic structure for discussion. We discussed the long term and short term remedies pretty well. I brought in a couple of not very-original-but-as-yet-unstated ideas. Group tended to get a little repetitive especially after one girl suggested we summarise the remedies. I dont think we were expected to summarise but one cant have a debate over that in the course of a GD, right?

In fact, after a couple of minutes of diversion, I stupidly ended up suggesting the same thing (shooting myself, I tell you!). Anyway, our time was up and we were asked to summarise. Despite all the warnings at PG, I still couldnt finish mine! :huh:

Anyway, exit group and long wait for the interview. First guy from my group was asked the hundred-rupee-note question! AmazingDont IIM profs know about PG?? Anyway, he was also told to get both sides of his degree certificates photocopied, so all of us also rushed to do the same. I think we all had a pretty good time waiting. Of course, there was the usual excitement as soon as someone came out of the interview room, but otherwise we kept joking around and pulling each others legs in the waiting area. Candidate number 3 was real fun and brought everyones stress levels down. (Thanks, R! Too bad you got stress-interviewed yourself!!)

Anyway, time for me to go in. Three member panel. (L to R)South Indian Smiley Chappie (SISC), Main Guy (MG), and Boring-but-Decent-Guy (BDG).

Me: Good Afternoon, Sirs

SISC: Have a seat.I do so and say thanks.MG: So youve heard from others about the interview?Me: I smile

MG: Yes, no or maybe?Me: Yes, sir.

MG: So how are you feeling- better or worse?Me: Much the same (smiling)

SISC: So you did the corrective action too?Me: Oh, you mean the photocopies? Yes, Sir.

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Me: Financial management, accountancy, costing and some others that I liked but did not score as well.

SISC: Oh, you got _ (high) in costing and __ (low) in managementMe: Yes, and ironically I like management!

MG: You had a paper on management concepts?Me: It was actually Management concepts and practices

MG: What concepts did they teach you?Me: Well, more about development of management thought and about managerial functions like planning, organising, directing and controlling.

SISC: Why didnt you do a job after graduation?Me: Sir, I thought about that and decided I had to gain some more knowledge to be able to work at the jobs I want to work at.

MG: Okay, what is activity-type/level costing?Me: (Taking some wild guess). Do you mean operating costing? (Explains the same)

MG: Okay, taking your example, how would you account for costs of a hospital? Say, there are four nurses, one receptionist and one doctor?Me: Consider costs like heating, lighting, electricity, rent of building (darn, just remembered---forgot to mention stationery), salaries of employees, cost of medical supplies (depending on patients etc..

MG: Anything else?Me: (I thinks and mumble) Dont think so

MG: And you divide this by the total number of beds?Me: Not necessarily, could divide it by number of occupied beds too (I explain why)

MG: What if there is an ICU ward?Me: Oh, you mean there are different kinds of beds?

MG: Yes.Me: Some costs would be common, and others can be charged accordingly.

MG: What about doctors salary?Me: Could be allocated on the basis of number of beds in each ward.

MG: Any other basis?Me: Time spent in each ward (gives example and explains)

MG: What is a run-on-a-bank?Me: (I looks clueless)

MG: Not heard of bank run?Me: No Sir, Im afraid I havent.

MG: heard about the budget? What is this fiscal deficit? Is it good or bad?Me: (Wildly guessing) A small level may not be bad as it indicates we are a developing nation and have developmental expenses; on the other hand, a growing deficit may mean we are not planning financing of our expenditure properly. So it has both good and bad elements to it.

MG: What is FDI?Me: (I give the full form and explains in layman terms)

MG: What about when Indians invest abroad? What is that?Me: Its FDI for the respective countries.

BDG: Okay, why did you drop one year? (I have a discontinuity problem)


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Me: (I give some standard answer, mentions things like it was a rebellious mistake, I was a passive follower of advice rather than active decider, IT was booming then)

BDG: Its not good now?Me: Well, it went through a slump but its doing much better now.

(SISC has been scribbling a standard costing question all this while and hands me the sheet and asks me to account for the variance in profit)

Me: ( totally zapped--can barely remember chapter, let alone formulae!, borrows SISCs pen)

SISC: (Seeing that I have turned to stone) You can think aloud.Me: (I do so and gives some simplistic explanation combined with some very slow arithmetic)

SISC: So, only these two factors for variance?Me: (SISC almost leads me to the next factor and I thankfully mention that too. I mumble something about having done this an year ago and not being so good at it now, all this with an apologetic smile)

BDG: You have mentioned that you took a part in an anti-pollution thing Is there anything going on about pollution these days?Me: Yes, sir. Kyoto protocol has come into effect recently.

BDG: What is that?Me: (I explain)

BDG: What will implementation mean?Me: (explains)

BDG: Have all countries signed it?Me: Actually, USA hasnt which is ironic since its the biggest offender.

BDG: Is Delhi more polluted now than it was, say five years ago?Me: Dont know in terms of actual data but state government has taken steps like conversion to CNG, planting trees etc.

BDG: But with highways etc. allowing more vehicles, arent emissions increasing?Me: (Thinking of Delhi) But highways are necessary for development also. I think the problem could be migration too.

BDG: (interrupts) What?Me: Migration, sir

BDG: No, no. Im talking about the nation not Delhi.Me: Okay.

BDG: So you think pollution is a price we pay for development?Me: (Couldnt have framed it better myself) Yes, sir; it seems so.

BDG: Is it necessary to pay this price?Me: No Sir and that is why we try to reduce pollution as much as possible.

BDG: How? Can you think of examples?Me: Sir, I believe in China, cycles are given a lot of importance as modes of transportation (actually dont know this for fact, wonder if its true?) Also, automobile companies are now developing solar charged vehicles etc.

BDG: What can governments do?Me: Give more incentives to auto companies to keep developing eco-friendly vehicles

BDG: If you are a manager in an MNC, will you go to work on a cycle?Me: No, Sir. I would use a solar powered vehicle!


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BDG: Oh, you have that kind of money? We dont get that much!Me: Well, Ill be working in an MNC, so maybe (I smile) It also depends on what cost the company is willing to manufacture such a vehicle at.

SISC, BDG and MG look at each other and say Okay, thank youMe: (Getting up) Thank you, sirs. I hope to see you again.

EXIT

Did not convert the call, joined SIBM Pune


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IIM Ahmedabad - Year 2006

Interview experience of: snovaGave my A GD/PI today...putting just the PI here..me very tired..case study koi aur daal dega...my case study wasnt good.

Profile

Final year B.E. student in CSE from MBM Engg College, Jodhpur (affiliated to Jai Narain Vyas University.)

Academics

X - 83.8% XII - 77.2%

B.E. I - 74.88 II - 75.83 III - 76.00 (consistent huh?)

CAT percentile

QA - 97.15%ile, VA - 99.77%ile, DI - 93.33%ileOverall 99.77%ile

Extra- Curriculars - Not many prizes but I took part in many events and initiatives.

First things first, I look like a kid..and thats what they probably thought when they saw me. Also, my case study performance wasnt good...was a bit nervous and shaky there..I was the 3rd in my panel..other two guys had OK interviews..mostly techie ones.

But because of my nervous bachcha look..and high fundas in my form, they decided to stress test me.

3 guys.. SB (Sincere Boodha), KM , GS (Green Shirt). They were sitting left to right in the conference room in above order.

GS - So you are from Jai Narain Vyas University..who was Jai Narain Vyas?Me - Former CM of Rajasthan.

GS - When did the university get its name?Me: 1962..err..it was founded in 1962, at that time called Jodhpur University..and name was changed sometime in the 1970s ....(GS was least interested).

SB - Who was Girija Vyas?Me - I am not sure but she was from the Congress. (which turned out to be correct).

SB - Did she have any relation with Jai Narain Vyas?Me - I have no idea (I was then told that she was his daughter probably).

SB - Where was she from ? Me - I am not sure but Rajasthan only. (She is from Udaipur...so at least I am not wrong)

GS -What are your long term goals?Me - Try to fart about why MBA.

GS - Now tell me your long term goals..Me: I have not formulated what I am gonna do after my MBA.

GS - But what are your long term goals?(this happens a bit..but GS is simply not listening to any funda I am throwing..he is simply cutting me again and again).(I knew now that they were trying to stress me out..maine kaha beta yahan funde maarne se kuch nai hoga...aaja aukaad par...dropped all pretensions.)Me - Sir I want to do something for the society in the long run.


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GS (now he listened..saying the truth always has that effect) - You have done a lot of events in college..do you think college life is like real life?Me - Yes sir.

GS - Are they exactly the same?Me - No sir they are not EXACTLY the same..

GS - So..you agree that college life is like real life but its not exactly the same..or are you saying its different? (ek baar bol to diya ki they are not exactly the same..!!)Me - Sir from what experience I have had, I do believe they are close and related..but not exactly the same.

GS - How are they same?Me - Real life also involves dealing with people and all...(this is a sort of funda and his interest drops).

GS - Have you watched the movie Rang De Basanti? (I had an intuition that somehow I may be asked that question, but hadnt prepared or needed to prepare anything as such)Me - Yes Sir.

GS - So the college life..like yours, and its the same in the movie..is that like real life? (here he starts mocking..and does that a lot during the interview, me reminded of aamir's dialog - "university gate ke is paar hum life to nachate hain..aur us paar life humko nachati hai")..you say you have done a lot of things in college, designing posters, websites, and organising things...they must also have done that..dance parties and all? How is that gonna help? (He is almost laughing).Me (now serious, and looked directly in his eyes at one point) - Sir I have never organised a dance party. I started a students club to help my college mates..most of my college mates are from small towns and they cant speak well in English, and that hampers their performance in Campus Interviews. Though I dont have very good communication skills either, but I am better than them and held GDs and sessions to help them and that gave me a lot of satisfaction and then I realised that I wanted to do something for the people.(yeh hui na baat..now he stopped laughing..).

SB - Only for the people or for yourself too?Me (smile) - Yes sir for me too.

Now KM breaks in..

KM - So you said you want to learn about businesses.. (This was in my forced why MBA fundas)..how can business help the society?Me - Sir business creates jobs and wealth...gave example of Narayan Murthy's Infosys Foundation.

KM- Do you think all businessmen are like Narayan Muthy?Me - No sir..but still...

KM - Do you think you can be like Narayan Murthy?Me (looked at him and said honestly) - Maybe I can.

KM - Why not go for politics or an NGO or something like that..(beech beech mei GS koi comment maar maarke hansta ja ra tha..but he was trying to psyche out the wrong guy)Me - (Was saying something about no interest in politics...but ate it midway..he too wasnt interested in that...)then said maybe I will go for an NGO..told about how other guys from IIMs had gone for NGOs..and even an NGO needs management..people management, finances have to be managed..told something about how a structured education would help me in that...they finally are a bit convinced..may be at my forced use of the word structure.KM - So what type of business do you want to start to help people?Me - Havent decided that yet sir...I want to learn more first..

KM - What will you learn in management that will help you?Me - Told people management type fundas and structured education types.

KM now shifts to academics...

KM (looking at first year mark sheets) - hmm..Engg mathematics, electrical engg, civil, mech..Me - Sir they are 1st year mark sheets..


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KM - Ok I will not ask chemistry then..(huh??)KM - Ok did you have a course in management, I cant find it.. (I knew it would come..and wasnt prepared, I had studied that subject in 1.2 days before exam)

GS (with a smirk) - Was it an elective? Did you take it?

KM - But I think management course is compulsory.(mujhko kuch bolne doge?)Me - Yes sir it wasnt an elective..it was a compulsory subject.

KM - So what did you study in it? (yeh to poochana hi tha).Me - Sir only the basics..the various types of organizations...ABC Analysis (again knew they would ask that).

KM - So tell us about ABC analysis..Me - It is about categorizing things into A,B and C levels of priority..I dont remember much..

GS gives some fart examples about classifying various things into ABC...and laughs...I too smile and make no response as such.

KM - So which subjects did you like in BE? (abb mara beta, again hadn't prepared this well..what a nut I am).Me - Told about discrete math and basic LOGIC part of digital electronics.(my logic is ok..so I was hoping they would catch that..they didnt).

KM - But what about your core subjects?Me - Sir but discrete math is a core subject..and its used in all high level design in CS.

KM - Okay what is predicate logic?Me - (could not articulate the answer well..this was one time when I was in a fix in the interview...I should have prepared DM better, clearly said that I cant give a precise definition)

KM - Did you study graphs in DM?Me - No sir. KM - Ok, which language uses predicate logic?Me - Prolog.

KM - Tell me the differences between prolog and C.Me - Some fundas about high and low level languages...discussed a bit on that..rule base and all that...but was never very convincing.

KM - Okay have you studied databases? What about 3rd and 4th Gen languages?Me - (Didnt remember about 3rd Gen languages, told about database languages being the 4th level languages)

KM - Why are they different?Me - They have added facility to manage databases..

KM - But if I add a library to C, even that can be a 4th generation language then, we can always use structures to manipulate databases in C.Me - Sir but in C that would be a lot more complicated..structures are complicated..4th generation languages are not that complicated and one can easily manipulate databases through them.

KM - What all languages did you learn in your course?Me - C/C++, CORE Java and prolog.

KM - Thats all?Me - Yes sir..

(ab SB ki baari..he was also trying to laugh a bit).

SB - So what do you do apart from organising events?Me - I enjoy reading (This was there in the form too).

SB - What do you like to read? (abb aayi ball mere paale mein..so I thought)


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Me - I read Philosophy..mainly Indian Philosophy. Vedanta. Swami Vivekananda's works basically.

I guess this is what they wanted..they pounced on me...all three of them started questioning and mocking me regarding philosophy..laughed again and again..but I kept my cool..smiled ..I talked about all knowledge coming from contemplation..scientific discoveries made through contemplation..Newton, August Kekule.. ..GS said why dont you go and sit under a tree and learn there..we should have one tree for every student at IIMA...and laughed..but at many times his laughter was forced and deliberate.. I was cool..like zabardasti haskar kyun energy kharaab kar re ho...I know you are faking it and I wont be psyched out...I smiled and played along..logic breaking down, quantum physics, wave particle duality etc sab discuss kiya..they tried their best to break me..but didnt happen and at one point I gave my final answer with some force..and they suddenly accepted it and became silent...then asked about some other books..I talked about Godfather but wasnt very convincing here...again they tried to psyche me out..do I have any Godfather type person in my family? have I been like or been with a person like the Godfather? (I smiled and said no)..I stuck to my point..like I learned this and this from the Godfather and thats it.

I guess that was the end..they offered me a toffee and I left..I had left my pen behind..

KM - you may want your pen also.Me - Saying Thank you sir again and again to everyone and leave.

Felt very good after the Interview was over...I had actually prayed for a stress interview, I knew I wouldnt get stressed..they tried a lot to psyche me out..and I never felt the faintest hint of stress (compare this with the situation in my campus interviews where I had my hands shaking and tongue faltering) ..I never felt that these were IIMA profs..they were just good as any bunch of guys to me..I was cool and smiling throughout and put my points well and was reasonable..esp in my social work thing and philosophy...and in both these areas, they finally accepted what I had to say..at times I was a bit forceful..but never angry or loud or disturbed..whatever natural force my personality may have..it all flashed there..and then they had to listen.

But now looking in retro..I am worried about the acads part..thats what IIMA stresses on most. I am OK on paper..performed consistently in BE exams...but I guess nowhere by IIMA standards..

Here's a quick analysis -

-ves - Acads, case study performance was bad,short term goals not clear, not from a hotshot college.+ves - OK CAT percentile (99.77), confidence and coolness in the interview, acads consistent on paper, good extra curriculars in organisational activities.

real tired now..khana bhi nahi khaaya hai....this was long, but thats my humble token in return for all the help I have taken from PG.


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Interview experience of: kevivHi all,

The IIM saga for me began today.

I was amongst the few to be a part of the first day first show at IIMA.

Venue: IIMA KLMDC annexe.Time: 9:00 AMPanel: 2

My profile:Fresher B.Tech ICT (Information and Communication Technology), DA-IICT, Gandhinagar.CAT percentile : 99.97 %ileCalls :BLACKI

Case study:

There were 9 people in each panel (2 ladies in my panel). 4 moderators sitting in one corner each of the room and observing us. There was a round table with number tags indicating our positions. They first checked our admit cards and then collected our forms and the photocopies that they had asked for in the call letter. Thereafter, the general instructions for the case study were given - 5 minutes to read, 20 minutes to discuss and 5 minutes to summarise. Summary to be written in running format, not in points. We were given a write-up with the case, a pink page to note down our points and a ruled page to write the summary. In the end, all three of them were taken back.

The case:

Bharat had subscribed for a recently launched Tech magazine (launched in Dec. 2004). But I was asked to wait for 2 months before he could receive the first issue. Moreover, in Jan 2005 he was told that he would have to pay more for the magazine as the costs had increased. Bharat felt that this was unfair as he had already paid for the subscription and any prise rise thereafter should not affect him. He threatened to take the distributors to the court. The distributors are in a fix because if Bharat is paid a refund, other customers will ask for the same. Moreover there cannot be a double pricing policy. So what should distributors do?

Very peaceful discussion. Everyone was able to speak whenever he/ she wanted. Not much digressing from the topic. But the points raised were also very general. None of the points was such that the group hooked on to it and discussed it for some time. In fact, with 5 minutes more to go, one of us almost brought an end to GD but saying that "in the end we have agreed that...". Fortunately, a new point came up (courtesy: yours truly) and the group could discuss further till the moderator asked us to stop.

The interview started within 10 minutes of the GD. I was the second person to be interviewed. And so I had no pre conceived notions of the panel. Went inside with butterflies in my stomach. But the panel soon made me comfortable. In the beginning, when they were stuck on one question, I thought that they were planning for a stress interview. But nope. They soon became very jovial. They were laughing all the time and therefore today, for the first time in an interview, I too smiled. Really, very cordial panel.

Four people. Sitting on one side of the round table. However, only 3 of them asked questions. The fourth one was sitting slightly further from the table, looking at me all the time, smiling and noting down something.

Interviewers: P1, P2, P3

P1: Yes ___, what is Dhirubhai Ambani doing (me from Dhirubhai Ambani Institute of ICT)Me: Sir, ..(with an astonished look on my face)

P1: Yes, Yes, I know he is dead. (Bursts out into laughter. I too smile).P1: So what are his sons doing?Me: Sir, they recently parted ways.

P1: So whose side you are on?Me: Tried to be diplomatic. Both are good and blah blah.


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P1: No, but I want to know that if the brothers declare tomorrow that all DA-IICT students have to declare their allegiance towards one of them, whom will you choose?Me: In that case, I would go with Mukesh because I find my personality more similar to his than Anil's.

P1: And what makes you think so?Me: Sir Anil is highly enthusiastic and dynamic. Mukesh is calm, patient, confident blah blah ..

P1: So you are not dynamic?Me: Sir, I believe in taking up one task at a time and doing it in the best possible manner.(Here P3 chips in).

P3: You said Mukesh is cool, calm and so are you too. But cool these days also means dynamic. As you people say "Cool dude". Which cool did you mean? (laughter all over).Me: Sir, I meant Mukesh has a cool temperament.

(P2 looks at the mention of the prize I had won in an event called crossword. But thinks that it is something about the bookshop crossword. He asks me whether I am a member of the crossword. When I refuse and explain him about what crossword actually is, he again bursts into laughter. He laughed a lot during the interview)

Now comes P2. Tech guy. Asked me only academics. And never seemed to be convinced.

P2: You studied ICT? Did you specialize in anything?Me: Yes sir, CT.

P2: How does an analog telephone work?Me: Didn't know exactly. But told him about the carbon resistance in the microphone changing due to vibrations of the membrane when we speak, thereby changing the current in the wires. (I think that the concept is correct but could not give a very technical explanation).

P2: What is the EMF of the battery used at the exchange?(Before that I had mentioned about the central batter exchanges).Me: High because they supply power to several subscribers.

P2: You said that there is the variable carbon resistance between the two wires connecting the handset and the battery. So I should get a spark when I short the two wires. But I don'tMe: (Clueless here)

P2: Ok. How does a call reach from here to Timbaktoo.Me: Told about the exchanges, trunk lines. regional exchanges. etc.

P2: How many exchanges are there in India? Any guess?Me: No idea. But may be around 200 in each state. So around 5000. (Totally clueless here too).

P2: Ok. you have studied networks?Me: Yes sir.

p2: Tell me, what network topology will a telephone network be?Me: Mesh topology.

P2: Heard about tree topology? (I think the mesh answer was wrong. Tree was the correct answer).Me: Explained it.

P2: Network topology of BSNL?Me: No idea.

P1 is back into action.P1: You never felt curious?Me: (Kya bolta? Dekhte raha unhe).

P2 back to acads.P2: You seem to be good at probability. (Asks me a probability question.)Me: I gave the answer. He wasn't convinced.

P1: How were the cellular operators in a region decided in India?


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Me: I told them about the spectrum auctions and the policy of maintaining a minimum and maximum number of operators in a circle.

P1: Why is there a minimum limit?Me: For competition.

P1: Why maximum limit?Me: Too much market segmentation. Problems in spectrum allocation as spectrum is limited.

P1: Number of cellular operators in Gujarat (Here, due to one of my answers there was again a round of laughter. I used that time to count the number of operators).Me: 2 CDMA. 4 GSM.

P1: Name them.Me: Named.

P1: Why CDMA and not GSM?Me: Explained the difference between the two.

P1: Why only two for CDMA?Me: told them..

P1: Which countries use CDMA? Which use GSM?Me: Answered.

Passes the baton to P3.

P3: Tell me about your other interests.Me: Sir, reading and writing.

P3: What do you write?Me: Articles for college magazine, daily diary, blog.

P3: What was the last article in the magazine?Me: About my experience with CAT.

P3: Why would anyone want to read that?Me: blah blah.

P3: What did you write?Me: Told.

P3: When did you update your blog? Last blog?Me: Told. Also told them about a bloggers community in our institute.

P3 jokes that we should check his blog there and then to see if I was telling the truth.

P3: Why blog? Why not just talk with people in your institute?Me: Blog without borders. Interaction with people from far off places and all that stuff (seemed convinced).

P3: Looked at one of my certificates and asked me about that event.Me: Answered.

At that point, our college festival "Synapse" came into picture. So P2 asked me about actual meaning of synapse.I gave them the definition (the connection between nerve fibres) and told them that is all I know.

P1 again chips in.

P1: Do you watch movies?Me: No.

P1: Why?Me: I am slightly impatient (haha. Earlier, in one of the answers I had said that I am patient. thank God they didn't notice this). Can't sit through 3 hours of a movie.


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P1: Last movie?Me: Terminal.

P3 is back.

P3: Which book did you read last?Me: (last book I read was Fountainhead but after reading PG threads, didn't have the guts to tell that to the panel as I am not that well-versed with Rand's philosophy). Told them about Kiran Bedi's book that I am currently reading.

P3: Why that book?Me: Told them that I prefer biographies.

P3: Why not Gandhi, Nehru's autobiographies?Me: Read Gandhi's. Nehru's could not complete.

P3: A few general questions about jails.

P3: Ok, take your chocolate and you can go.Me: Thank you.

So, this was all. No Why MBA? Tell me About yourself? Do you want to ask us something? Strengths and weaknesses? None of these.

Lasted for about 30 minutes. In fact never realised that I was in for 30 minutes. I though they hadn't asked me anything. So when they said "one last question", I was surprised. It was only after I was out that I came to know that mine was one of the "long" interviews.

Was quite happy after the interview, though later, on analysis, I found nothing special about my interview. Did not give good answers to some questions. But most of the time, it all seemed to me like a casual chit-chat. We all were laughing a lot. It was much better than all the mocks that I had given. The panel was very good. Whatever might be the outcome, I enjoyed the process.

Next is K on 21st at Mumbai.

All the best to all.

Cheers,Vivek


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Interview experience of: HAHAHAH

Puys,

My IIMA GD/PI experience..

Profile: CAT percentile - 99.84%ile (QA - 99.62%ile, DI - 98.15%ile, VA - 98.20%ile)

Education:Class 10 - 92% (CBSE)Class 12 - 87% (State Board)B.Tech Elec - 7.90 CGPA (IITM)

Work Ex - 7 months so far - K.P.M.G (Management consultancy)

GD- Case study on "Should gambling be legalized?" Pros & Cons of the casino gambling industry were given. A nice discussion. The group on the whole was good. Coherence was maintained. Did pretty well, made 4-5 points. 20 minute discussion.

PI - Interview Panel comprising of 3 members - Labelled as "X"- Yours truly - A

(After being escorted in a dignified manner)

X: Did you have tea outside while you were waiting outside?A: No sir, I avoid tea, managed to munch a cookie though. (Smiles all round).

X: So Mr. Gurunath, Tell us about yourself.A: Spoke briefly about my educational background, interest in math, science as a student, engineering, work & ended by saying I am outdoor enthusiast etc.

X: So what does K.P.M.G do?A: Spoke about he different functional departments. , ended by saying we are involved in Power Sector Refors in A.P.

X: Ahh, Power reforms...what is un bundling?A: Corporatization of Generation, Transmission & Distribution wings of a State Electricity Board. & making separate entities out of them.

X: Why has it been done? A: To bring about more accountability & efficiency...(elaborated here).

X: Okay, how has K.P.M.G been involved in it? And what is your role in it?A: Spoke about what all we have done in A.P. Then went on to speak about my role....Tariff Pricing strategy team & implementing a new Power Market structure in the state.

X: How do you go about doing it? How do you know at what rate the sales will grow? How do you do sales forecasting?A: Spoke about several models used to make sales forecasting including taking into account like G.D.P, per-capita, trend analysis & other economic performance parameters.

(At this point, one of the X plants my reg. form in front of a guy & points to my interest - Maths)

X: So how do you verify how good a forecast model is?A: Sir, I will either carry out a variance analysis over the data or use regression.

X: Okay, Now if I give you 5 numbers X1, X2, X3, X4 & X5 & their forecasted values Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 & Y5 tell me jpw will you go about doing the analysis.A: Sir, I will take the difference (X1-Y1) etc & take a weighted average of the squares.

X: Okay, what if you take the Modulus of the difference & take the mean?A: Thought, said something about accuracy of deviation not being captured properly in the latter case...(Then continued to think).


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X: Okay, tell me what is power factor?A: It is the angle between the KW phaser & VA phaser in a power triangle. (Drew & showed it to him)

X: What is its physical significance?A: Talk about the fact that it gives the actual power that gets transferred in a power circuit. Resistance, Reactance blah blah.

X: What is reactance?A: Tell them about Inductance & Capacitance..usual explanation

X: What is that?A: (Confused)....as in what is an inductance & capacitance sir?

X: Yes !A: Gave them an explanation about the fact that energy gets localized in them. Capacitance stores energy & Inductance absorbs reactive energy.

X: Okay, what is the exact difference between them?A: (WHAT !).....Sir, Capacitance has 2 plates separated by a dielectric medium which has the capacity to store charge, whereas Inductance is just a coil which localizes energy & absorbs reactive power.

X: Okay, you must have come across this term right...."elasticity effect". Tell us something about it.A: Blah Blah...talk about the fact that if tariffs are reduced the demand might go up. This is the elasticity effect.

X: Did you factor it in your computations? (Tariff strategy)A: Yes Sir, I factored that in the sales but not in the tariff values. (Elaborated here)

X: How did you go about the tariff setting process?A: Spoke about the power sector reforms, alternative generation threat blah blah. Computed the alternative options available to consumers & the fact that they might make a switch from government supply to private supply.

X: So why is it that not many people are making the switch?A: Sir, several reasons...Not core competence, lack of fuel linkages, licensing headaches, environmental clearances, ash disposal etc. Spoke about how fuels like coal & gas were being rapidly consumed.

X: Okay, what according to you is the main reason of the power crisis in the country.A: Spoke about the 3 parts Generation, Transmission & Distribution. It is a vicious cycle. No one wants to invest in generation due to the lack of payment security, which is not there because of the inefficient distribution sector. High losses in the distribution sector should be first tackled.

X: How will you do that?A: Spoke about the lack of metering in agriculture, lack of feeder separation for industry & agriculture, skewed tariff structures resulting in high cross subsidization etc.

X: Who generates power in the country today?A: Central sector - 35%, state - 55% , Private & captives - rest.

X: How much is the nuclear generation in the country?A: 3%.

X: Do you think it will go up in the future?A: Spoke about the prospects considering the Indo - US deal. I feel in the short term it is unlikely to go up as coal will be the dominant fuel. But with time, it will go up. Spoke about the infra needed in the nuclear sector, BARC's 3 pronged approach & high thorium reserves.

X: What are the other forms of generation?A: Hydel, renewable like wind, bio gasses, solar.

X: Do you think they are viable? Give me an approximate cost to set up a solar plant vis-a-vis say a coal plant.A: It might not make financial sense now sir, but one will HAVE to switch over to ensure that we are not energy deficient. Spoke about the distributed generation in rural areas.


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X: What about the financial viability?A: Nuclear - 20 crores/ MW, coal - 3.5 crore/MW.

X: So how will it happen?A: Spoke about the Carbon credit system & incentivising such generation plants by giving tax holidays & other fiscal incentives.

X: Tell us something about you final year project.A: Blah Blah.

X: What is the difference between Beach volleyball & Normal volleyball?A: 1) No. of players. 2) The dimensions of the court - 18 by 9 vs 16 by 8.3) Block is counted as a touch in Beach volley whereas it is not in normal volleyball.

X: What about the ball?A: Maybe it is made up of a different material to drain of the sand quickly.

X: Okay, do you know Mr. Ashok Jhunjhunwala?A: YES !

X: What has he done in life?A: (smiling)...Sir, he has revolutionised the telecom industry by bringing about changes in the costs relating to the wires & etc.

X: What has he exactly done?A: (Raising an eyebrow)....As in a patent or something sir?

X: Something like that...A: I am not too sure of the name sir. I did not specialize in communications.

X: Okay, heard of CORRECT?A: (Fucking shit...how did I forget that)...Of course !!...It slipped out sir. (smiles)

X: Smiling...take a toffee.(took & buzzed off !!)

Thats it folks....25 mins


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Interview experience of: aratiMine went quite bad...Profile : BE Electrical Engineering from SPCE Mumbai University. Academics : 61% aggregate...pretty low.17 mnths of work ex with Infosys.CAT percentile : 99.80%ileCalls: LACKI and XlRI HR and MDI.

20th Feb, 9:00 AM, Panel 1.

We were the first group for the 9:00 am slot. The GD was a case study on "Should gambling be legalized ?". It went decent I believe. Dont remember making any stellar contributions, but at least I think I was heard once in a while. Thankfully, not a fish market. Some guys didnt contribute, but those who did seemed civil. Hey, and remember they asked us to write down the GD summary, summarize the discussion and not the case. And do that fast because they give you only 5 minutes. Especially for us IT people, who can type a lot faster than they can write, 5 mins is too less.

Now the PI...ahem ahem...NOT GOOD...I think I came across as someone with a very closed brain....and more importantly I came across as someone who is quite an idiot.

Three guys....centre mein tha this diptesh ghosh....he is apparently a quant guy, I dont think I can narrate what exactly happened...but I do remember a lot of blank stares into space....I lot ahem, umms, hmmm, I dont know, mumble mumble...more mumble mumble...etc

anyways....the quant guy asked me this.....

QG: I will give you some data, I went to country A and asked 5 people their incomes and this what i got [ 3.1, 2.9 , 4.2 ....some completely random set of values in this range] and I went to country B and asked 6 people their incomes and this is what I got [ another random set of 6 values]. Which country has higher average income?Me: Sir first for any comparison I need to know if the units are standardized?

QG: Yes yes, I have done that.Me: Sir how many people does each data point represent, for eg this 3.1 how many people belong to this group so that I can take a weighted mean...

QG: These are 5 individuals, I have randomly selected.Side guy chips in : Look, you can never go and ask everyone in a country what their income is...for eg if I want to know which company pays higher Infy or Wipro can I ask every one their pay packets?Me: Sir, but you would check at entry level, then find out how many people, then check

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