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From recent discussi ons in [email protected] t MAEMURA Akinori JPNIC IP Committee / FTLD Address Policy SIG at 13 th APNIC Open Policy Meeting

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From recent discussions in [email protected]

MAEMURA AkinoriJPNIC IP Committee / FTLD

Address Policy SIG at 13th APNIC Open Policy Meeting

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Abstract

1. Explaining background

2. Propose slight amendments in policy document and proposed guideline to ensure the service for LIRs

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What happened with wg-bb field in Japan?

1. Japan takes an explosion of CATV and ADSL services just like Korea had in 2000

2. Some of Japanese CATV/ADSL operators suffer from sort of shortage in allocated IP addresses

3. Consensus of the last Policy SIG regarding WG-BB was reported in JPNIC Open Policy SIG and got some negative response from Cable/ADSL operators and also some amendment proposals

4. wg-bb had some discussions around it and have some issues to be fixed

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Problem with default initial alloc size(1)

Current Consensus•Allow default size of initial allocation as /24

for one CMTS

Problem•CMTS is not appropriate because it can be

have some downstream port

Amendment Proposal•Allow default size of initial allocation as /24

for one DOWNSTREAM port

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Problem with default initial alloc size(2)

/24 is sufficient for default size of initial allocation?

•/24 seems to be insufficient especially in case of 30Mbps spec cable, in Japan

•/23?

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Problem with shortage of allocated IP addresses

Problems in practice(1)

•Applying subsequent allocation after 80% usage often brings IP address shortage due to extreme rate of customer increase– Especially in case of ADSL services in Japan now

– Policy is documented to allow advanced applications when rest 20% isn’t so big as the assignment request LIR gets

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Problem with shortage of allocated IP addresses

Problems in practice(2)•Initial/subsequent allocation size tends to be ins

ufficient, e.g. lasting three months– Due to insufficient allocation size of NIRs, sometimes– Three months can be passed with one month evaluation o

f allocation, one month design by outsourced SIer, one month implementation.

– Sometimes this goes longer and ISPs encounter the shortage.

•Policy says NIR/RIR can allocate amount of “up to ONE year”(in 7.6(current) 9.4(proposed)). We can remove “three months at least”

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Problem with shortage of allocated IP addresses•I know this is sort of OPERATIONAL and PRACTICA

L, not Political

•So I’d like to propose to Include in Policy, a statement like

NIR and RIR should allocate IP addresses in sufficient size and allow requests to be submitted sufficiently in advance to prevent LIR’s shortage of allocated IP address.

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Summary

1.Proposing an amendment for current guideline

• Allow default size of initial allocation as /24 for one DOWNSTREAM port

• Is sufficient? Is /23 better?

2. Proposing an amendment for current policy document

• RIR/NIR should try to prevent IP address shortage at LIR