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Fouls and Scoring SituationsFouls and Scoring Situations
Revised 1 Aug 09
M. Pasenelli
CACPFO Rules Interpreter
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Our Mission: Our Mission:
• To know what the enforcement rules are for fouls during scoring situations and to demonstrate our knowledge of those rules by answering the situations correctly
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AgendaAgenda
• Field Goal—no change from 2008
• Successful Try—no change from 2008
• Touchdown—major change from 2008
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Carry Over FoulsCarry Over Fouls
• If there is a foul committed by the opponents of the scoring team, the penalty may be carried over to the succeeding spot or to the subsequent kickoff for field goals, tries and touchdowns (8-2-2, 8-3-5, 8-4-3)
• There are no carry over provisions for safeties
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Definitions: Succeeding SpotsDefinitions: Succeeding Spots
Situation Regulation Overtime
Field Goal Kickoff Next Series
Try Kickoff Next Series
Touchdown Try Try
•New definition: subsequent kickoff (8-2-2). So, when do you have a touchdown and no subsequent kickoff?
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Philosophy: Philosophy:
• To prevent cheap shots from occurring• Situation #1 (MP): A1 is running for a long
touchdown. Lineman B1 hits an A player who is obviously out of the play, a violation of 9-4-3b.
• Ruling: Without the ability to carry over the penalty, he would essentially be getting a free shot. Therefore, the carryover foul rules were put into place.
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Successful Field Goal (8-4-3):Successful Field Goal (8-4-3):
• R fouls, K’s field goal is good• K has the following options:
– Take the points off the board and enforce the penalty with our regular enforcement
– Keep the points, carry the penalty over to the succeeding spot
• Regulation: kickoff• Overtime: next series
• Philosophy: either way, R’s foul is penalized
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Successful try (8-3-5):Successful try (8-3-5):
• B fouls, A’s try (1 or 2 points) is good:• A has the following options:
– Take the point(s), carry the penalty over to the succeeding spot
– Replay the try (go for 2) with the yardage assessed
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Successful try:Successful try:
• A fouls, A’s try (1 or 2 points) is good:
• B has the following options:– Assess the penalty and replay the down, unless
there is a loss of down foul– If loss of down, there is no score and no replay
(and no change in the usual kickoff) 8-3-4
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FOUL
BY
TRY IS
GOOD NO GOOD
1 POINT 2 POINTS 1 POINT 2 POINTS
A Replay unless loss of down foul
Penalty obviously declined
B
Accept score with carry-over penalty or go for 2
Accept score with carry-over
penalty
Replay
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Touchdown (8-2-2, 8-2-3)Touchdown (8-2-2, 8-2-3)• This is the complicated situation• Why?• It is possible to have a change of possession prior
to a touchdown • Here’s the thought process:
– If there was no change in possession, we have the usual carry-over option—accept the foul (rare) with normal enforcement, or keep the touchdown and carry over the enforcement to either the try or the subsequent kickoff
– If there was a change in possession, we have to know when the foul occurred
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TouchdownTouchdown
• What’s the idea behind this?• Again, it’s the free shot philosophy• Situation #2
– A 1/10 @ A-20– A illegal motion at the snap– A1 throws a forward pass that is intercepted by B1 who
runs for a touchdown– Ruling: A’s motion foul must be declined for B to keep
the touchdown• Philosophy: A obviously is not getting away with
anything by the illegal motion • Key is when the foul by A occurs
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TouchdownTouchdown• On a change of possession, the foul by the
opponents must occur after the change of possession for it to be eligible for a carry over:
• Situation #3– A 1/10 @ A-20– A1 throws a forward pass that is intercepted by B1– During B1’s run for a touchdown, A2 grabs and twists
B1’s facemask– Ruling: This foul occurred after the change of
possession, so it can be carried over under the right circumstances
• What’s the idea behind this?• Again, it’s the free shot philosophy
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Change in 2008Change in 2008
• Touchdown carry overs can only be assessed on the try or the subsequent kickoff
• If there is no subsequent kickoff, only choice is the try
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Subsequent KickoffSubsequent Kickoff
• When do we have a touchdown and there is not a subsequent kickoff?– If the touchdown occurred at the end of the 4th quarter
and we go into OT– If the touchdown occurs during any overtime series
• So, the carryover on a touchdown can be assessed on the subsequent kickoff at any time in regulation, other than the last timed down of the 4th quarter
• Otherwise, the only option is to assess it on the try
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Change in 2009—Touchdown Situations—Change in 2009—Touchdown Situations—Fouls w/Succeeding Spot Enforcement Fouls w/Succeeding Spot Enforcement
Prior to the RFP (8-2-4, 10-5-1f)Prior to the RFP (8-2-4, 10-5-1f)
• We now have an exception to the “all dead ball, non-player and USC fouls are enforced from the succeeding spot”
• If any of those fouls occur prior to the RFP after a touchdown is scored, the offended team has a choice of enforcement
• Succeeding spot—which is the try• Subsequent kickoff
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Play Penalty is ForCan Be Enforced On/In
Try Succeeding KO Overtime
Touchdown Non-player or USC Yes Yes No
Touchdown (8-2-3) Live Ball Foul, after change of possession
Yes Yes No
Touchdown (8-2-4) Dead-ball Foul Before RFP for Try
Yes Yes No
Carry Over Fouls and Carry Over Fouls and TouchdownsTouchdowns
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Situation #4 (*8.2.2A): Situation #4 (*8.2.2A):
• During (a) A9's run for a touchdown, or (b) K1's successful field goal, B2 holds A1.
• RULING: In (a), A will likely keep the score and may choose to enforce the foul on the try or enforce the foul on the subsequent kickoff.
• In (b), K may keep the points and have the penalty enforced from the succeeding spot, or have the penalty enforced from the previous spot and replay the down. (8-4-3)
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Situation #5 (8.2.2B): Situation #5 (8.2.2B):
• On the last timed down of the 2nd period, Team A (a) scores a field goal or (b) a touchdown. In both cases, team B commits a live-ball foul.
• RULING: In (a), the offended team has the option to keep the score, with the penalty assessed on the 2nd half kickoff as this is the succeeding spot. In (b), the offended team has the option to keep the score, with penalty assessment on either the try or on the 2nd half kickoff as this would be the subsequent kickoff.
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Situation #6 (*8.2.2C) : Situation #6 (*8.2.2C) :
• On the last timed down of the 4th period, B fouls on a play where Team A (a) scores a touchdown that leaves Team A trailing by 1 point, (b) scores a field goal which ties the game, or (c) scores a touchdown that leaves team A trailing by one point and the opponents also foul on the try during the untimed down.
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Situation #6 (8.2.2C) Ruling: Situation #6 (8.2.2C) Ruling: • (a) A has the option to keep the score, with the
penalty assessed on the try. The penalty cannot be assessed on the first play of overtime as there is no subsequent kickoff.
• (b) A has the option to keep the score, with penalty assessment on the 1st play over overtime as the 1st play of overtime is the succeeding spot.
• (c) A may only have the penalty for the opponent’s foul on the scoring play enforced on the try but cannot carry over the penalty to overtime; however, the foul by the opponent during the try could be enforced on the 1st play of overtime at A’s choice.
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Situation #7 (*8.2.2D) : Situation #7 (*8.2.2D) : • A1 scores a touchdown. After the score, B
commits a (a) dead ball foul, (b) unsportsmanlike or (c) nonplayer foul prior to the initial ready for play on the try.
• RULING: In (a), (b), or (c), Team A may elect to enforce the foul at the succeeding spot or on the subsequent kickoff.
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Situation #8 (*8.2.2E) : Situation #8 (*8.2.2E) : • Prior to the ball being thrown during a play in which A1
catches a touchdown pass and advances for a touchdown, B1 holds A2 to prevent him from going out for a pass on the side away from the play. When given options, A elects to enforce the defensive holding foul on the subsequent kickoff. During the successful 2 point try, B1 is guilty of holding A1. Does A have the option of having the 10 yard penalty added on to the previous 10-yard foul on the subsequent kickoff?
• RULING: Yes. The fouls did not occur during the same down, so these are not considered multiple fouls and, therefore, they may both be enforced on the subsequent kickoff (8-3-5b, 10-2-4).
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Situation #9 (*8.2.2F) : Situation #9 (*8.2.2F) : • During a touchdown run by A1, B1 holds. During
the successful kick try, there is a foul by B2.• RULING: If A accepts B’s holding foul, A may
accept the score and attempt the try from the 1 ½ yard line or accept the score and have the penalty enforced on the subsequent kickoff. For a foul on the try, A may accept and replay the try on the ¾ yard line or accept the 1 point try and enforce B’s try foul on the subsequent kickoff. The captain of A may choose to have both fouls enforced on the subsequent kickoff.
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Situation #10 (8.3.5A): Situation #10 (8.3.5A):
• During a kick try: (a) B1 holds and the try is successful; or (b) A1 holds and the try is successful; or (c) B1 roughs the kicker/holder and the try is unsuccessful.
• RULING: In (a), A may accept the score and have the penalty enforced from the succeeding spot on the kickoff or enforce it from the previous spot and replay the down.
• In (b), B undoubtedly will accept the penalty and replay.
• In (c), A obviously would accept the penalty and replay. (8-3-7; 10-5-2)
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Situation #11 (*10.4.5G): Situation #11 (*10.4.5G):
• A2 commits an unsportsmanlike dead-ball foul: (a) following a touchdown by A1; or (b) following a successful try.
• RULING: In (a), B is given the option of accepting the penalty enforcement on the try or the subsequent kick. In (b), the succeeding spot is the kickoff.
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Situation #11 (*10.4.5G): Situation #11 (*10.4.5G):
• COMMENT: If the try had been the last play of the game and the score was tied, the succeeding spot for enforcement of the penalty for the foul by A2 would be the start of the overtime procedure. If an overtime is not authorized, the foul cannot be penalized because there would be no succeeding spot. (2-15; 2-41;
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Situation #12 (*10.5.3A): Situation #12 (*10.5.3A):
• With third and 6 from B’s 35-yard line, a pass from A1 is intercepted at B’s 25 by B1 who advances for an apparent touchdown. During the run by B1, A1 kicks at B2.
• RULING: B may (a) accept the touchdown and enforce the penalty on the try or on the subsequent kickoff; (b) decline the penalty.
• In either case, A1 is disqualified for fighting. (8-2-3; 9-4-1)
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Situation #12 (8.4.3): Situation #12 (8.4.3):
• With fourth and 5 from B's 18, K1's field-goal attempt is successful. B1 roughs the kicker/holder.
• RULING: K may accept the result of the play (3 points) and have the penalty enforced from the succeeding spot, or accept the penalty. If the penalty is accepted and K retains possession, it will be first and goal from R's 9-yard line. (9-4-4; 10-5-1f)
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Situation #13 (*10.5.4B): Situation #13 (*10.5.4B): • During the last timed down of the first half, A1
retreats into his own end zone to attempt a pass, but he is downed there. During the down there is holding in the end zone by: (a) A2, or (b) by B1.
• RULING: In (a), it is a safety and B would score 2 points whether the penalty is accepted or declined since the run ended in the end zone and the foul was in the end zone. If B accepts the penalty, the period is not extended with an untimed down.
• In (b), if the penalty is accepted it will be enforced from the goal line and the period is extended.
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Our Mission: Our Mission:
• To know what the enforcement rules are for fouls during scoring situations and to demonstrate our knowledge of those rules by answering the situations correctly.