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    The State of the Nation: Should the PremierLeague limit numbers of overseas players?13/10/2013 by Ben Harrison 6 Comments

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    Judging by the usual back (and front !ages of our ne"s!a!ers# you "ould ne$er tell that%nglish football does not take the success of it&s national side seriously enough ' but it&s true

    Headlines and !ress cam!aigns may ha$e become slightly more measured than in )ir Bobby*obson&s or +raham ,aylor&s day (from distributing badges demanding *obson be sacked asearly as 1-. # to ,aylor the turni! # but fans# !undits# !layers and managers alike are alluick to say "hat they e !ect from the %ngland team# and ust as uick to $oice their an iety

    and anger "hen it fails to deli$er

    ith so much riding on %ngland "inning then# you&d e !ect the country to be fully geared u!to gi$e our national side e$ery chance at com!eting at the to! le$el 4et "ith an archaiccoaching system# a to! di$ision obsessed "ith foreign riches and foreign !layers# a moredemanding league calendar than any other ma or %uro!ean country# and fans and !ress moreinterested in car$ing u! casualties than !racticing !atience# it&s almost as if dear old %nglandgoes out of it&s "ay to limit chances of success

    5nd in many senses# "e do n this ne" series of articles# "ant to !ose an uncomfortableuestion ' as a footballing community# do "e e$en "ant %ngland to do "ell7 5nd if "e do#are "e !re!ared to do "hat it takes7

    ,o hel! do this# am going to assess the !ro!osals often !ut for"ard as the solutions ca!ableof !re$enting the %nglish national side from continually disa!!ointing ' or at least# feelinglike it does )imon 8u!er and )tefan )y9manski ha$e already done sterling "ork setting out"hy gi$en our !o!ulation and other factors# %ngland&s results are actually about a$erage for acountry of our si9e and stature

    4et e$en acce!ting this# the uestion of ho" %ngland can boast a first 11 of multimillion !ound !layers ca!able of da99ling for their clubs in Cham!ions :eague finals# yet free9e on a"et and "indy night in ;orth :ondon against Croatia# or "ilt in the heat of )outh 5fricaagainst +ermany# !ersists

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    Limit the number of foreign players per team in the Premier League, or, increase thenumber of English players

    >ootball is a truly global game ,o an e tent it "as e$er thus# but legislati$e# social# financial#economic and technological change means the mo$ement of !layers across and bet"een

    continents has become the defining feature of the modern game

    ;o "here is this more $isible than in the %nglish ?remier :eague ,he influ of foreigno"ners# !layers and money has brought ma or benefits for cities# clubs# !layers and fansacross the country )tadiums ha$e been re$am!ed and rebuilt# training grounds rede$elo!ed#standards and uality ha$e im!ro$ed But there is no" a general consensus that it has broughtchallenges too# !articularly for the national side

    ,he biggest of these is the decreasing !resence of %nglish !layers !laying "ithin the ?remier:eague itself 5ccording to the BBC&s latest study # the !ro!ortion of home country !layers

    !laying in the ?remier :eague is ust 32A# do"n from 3 A in 200 D0. and# according to

    f %nglish !layers are not able to de$elo! and com!ete at the to! le$el# "hat chance does thenational side realistically ha$e7 hen "e consider young %nglish !layers# it becomes e$enmore "orrying rank :am!ard can look so assured for :i$er!ool and Chelsea# yetcom!arati$ely ordinary for %ngland ' they sim!ly are not surrounded by the technical

    brilliance or "i9ardry of their club team mates dra"n from o$erseas

    )o if "e agree that this re!resents a gro"ing issue for the %nglish national side# "hat can "edo about it7 ?eo!le generally call for a limit to be !laced on the number of foreign !layersclubs can sign or !lay on any gi$en match day# or should %E em!loyment regulations makethat challenging# then they call on the ?remier :eague to at least !ro!erly enforce e isting"ork !ermit restrictions "hich should make the signing of nonD%E !layers an e ce!tion

    f neither is !ossible# then clubs could be financially incenti$ised to field %nglish !layers o$ertheir foreign counter!arts ' there is surely enough money floating around the ?remier :eaguefor funds to be distributed to encourage this beha$iour amongst clubs

    But wont that mean Premier League clubs being forced to field inferior players? ob ectorsask# scared their team "ill suffer# or the uality of football they !ay to "atch "ill declineell# in the short term !erha!s ,he ?remier :eague has been lit u! by foreign talents like=ola# Henry# @rogba and $an ?ersie for t"o decades But# and "ithout intending disres!ect tothem# "ould the ?remier :eague ha$e been a !oorer !lace had Clarence 5cuna# ?ascal Cyganor 8leberson ne$er set foot on an %nglish !itch7 5nd o$er the medium term# it "ould

    definitely encourage academies and coaches to de$elo! the kind of %nglish talent so manycolumn inches tell us "e are de$oid of

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    Can the solution to increased global competition be to build a wall around English football? some "ill uestion Endertaken alone# then the ans"er "ould surely be no ,heGgrassroots le$el& issues facing %nglish coaching and !layers "ould !ersist "ithout otheractions But as "ith trade tariffs for de$elo!ing nations# sometimes a degree of !rotectionfrom com!etition is re uired to assemble the foundations re uired to com!ete in the first

    !lace f the slots a$ailable in the to! flight are so limited# if e$en ?remier :eague academiesare no" full of talented foreign youngsters like 5dnan Janu9a or John +uidetti# then !uttingsome limits on the numbers of o$erseas !layers "ould surely gi$en %nglish !layers more of achance to de$elo!

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    Bondy said )e!tember -th 2013 K 10L31am *e!ort comment

    +lenn Hoddle is a football manager not a soccer coach# "ho&s this information forand "here does it come from 777

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    o binnie said )e!tember -th 2013 K .L31!m *e!ort comment

    BondyDare you kiddng77777 Hoddle has managed clubs in the %?: o$er a !eriod of 10 years and %ngland for a further 3 years 5s a manager "ith morethan 10 years e !erience in managing at to! le$el he "as granted a coachingdi!loma from the >5 along "ith other GdignitariesI like>erguson#5llardyce#Clark#Hodgson#8innear#erdinand# andHoddle Ho!e this clarifies the original blog Cheers b

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    "! to tighten up (or) permit rules andlimit foreign influ* to help English talentdevelopBy *ob @ra!er# Fail on )unday Chief >ootball riter

    P+ L S-E.: 22L1 +F,# )e!tember 2013 +P.!TE.: 22L1 +F,# )e!tember 2013

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    ,he "ork !ermit system "hich allo"s foreigners to flood into the ?remier:eague# denying !laces to %nglandD ualified !layers# is to be re$ie"ed by the>ootball 5ssociation

    ,he Fail on )unday learned yesterday that the >5&s action comes in the"ake of chairman +reg @yke&s s!eech last "eek# "hich uestioned "hyyoung %nglish !layers "ere ha$ing their de$elo!ment held back in the?remier :eague

    @yke raised the need to tighten the criteria for foreign !layers entering thecountry# and it should be a hot to!ic "hen he is e !ected to attend the?remier :eague shareholder meeting on ,hursday

    ?assionateL >5 Chairman +reg @yke ga$e a s!eech about the state of the %nglish gameearlier this "eek

    Fanchester CityOs Jesus ;a$as (left is one of many foreigners to ha$e oined the ?remier:eague this summer

    ,he tougheningDu! of "ork !ermit restrictions is eminently !ossible for the>5 to achie$e because it is "ithin the !o"er of the go$erning body and could

    be im!lemented immediately Ender current rules# any !layer from the%uro!ean Enion does not re uire a "ork !ermit# "hich co$ers the $astma ority of incoming foreigners

    But those from outside of the %E need to ha$e !layed !er cent ofcom!etiti$e matches for their national team before being acce!ted as anoutstanding talent that "ould benefit %nglish football 5nd their national

    team must be ranked in the to! 0 in the "orld

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    Ho"e$er# some !layers are admitted on a!!eal# des!ite not ha$ing fulfilledthose criteria

    Concern has been raised that Chelsea "ere able to sign the Bra9ilian illian

    from *ussian club 5n9hi Fakhachkala for P30million# e$en though he hasnot !layed for Bra9il in !er cent of their games o$er the !ast t"o yearsndeed# he has only t"o senior ca!s# ha$ing made his debut in a friendlyagainst +abon in ;o$ember 2011

    ;e" boyL illian recei$ed a "ork !ermit for his mo$e to Chelsea des!ite only !laying t"icefor Bra9il

    )u!!ortL %ngland fans hold u! a banner agreeing "ith @ykeOs $ie"s

    ,he !layer has a legitimate "ork !ermit# ho"e$er# because Chelsea a!!ealed#arguing that because standards "ere so high in Bra9il# he "ould easily meetthe criteria if he !layed for another country ,hat argument "as acce!ted bythe >5 a!!ointed !anel

    Chelsea also signed Chilean Cristian Cue$as# 1.# "ho has only been ca!!edat EnderD20 le$el He has been sent on loan to @utch club Mitesse 5rnhem socurrently only needs to meet Holland&s more rela ed rules He is likely toreturn to Chelsea only "hen he meets the E8 criteria

    ,he >5 cannot re$erse decisions that ha$e already been made and# as both !layers ha$e oined Chelsea legitimately# neither is under immediate threatBut @yke "ants to re$ie" ho" !layers in similar circumstances to illian"ill be granted $isas

    ,alentL ,he >5 "ant more young !layers like *oss Barkley to break through into the senior%ngland team

    ,he Home 5# "ho !ublish the criteria "hich need to be met and "ho a!!oint a

    !anel of football e !erts if there is an a!!eal ,his !anel may be less lenientin future

    n his s!eech# @yke saidLG e should also e amine ho" the current "ork !ermit system o!erates Q and it is "orth !ointing out that roughly 30 !er

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    -oddle (ants foreign player limit inPremier LeagueD last u!dated ,hu 10 ry declined an offer from >5 chairman +reg @yke D andHoddle belie$es it may be R"aryR of !robable findings

    Certainly the im!lementation of a uota in a league adored globally may not be "elcomed byclubs and officials# e$en if it is by young %nglish talent

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    5 )tate of the +ame study for BBC )!ort has found that %nglish footballers account for lessthan a third of all the minutes !layed in the ?remier :eague# a dro! of three !ercent from the200 D0. season

    R?erha!s theyOre a little bit "ary of "hatOs going to be said# "hat changes are going to

    ha!!en#R Hoddle added

    RFaybe theyOre ust "aiting until they understand it a bit more

    R do belie$e that they do "ant the %nglish game to thri$e

    RBehind the scenes Om !retty sure theyOre going to hel! out "ith "hate$er the commissioncomes u! "ith# the ideas and the rule changes ,here "ill be discussion# there "ill bedialogue# Om !retty sure of that

    RHo!efully theyOll see "hat "eOre trying to do and say# O"ell# actually "e do "antre!resentation on thereO R

    Hoddle# an ad$ocate of residential footballing schools# !raised @yke for ha$ing the R$ision tochange things# to make things ha!!en# not to ust "ear the badgeR during his fourDyearchairmanshi! and belie$es he can contribute ideas to the commission

    5lso !art of the think tank# led by @yke# is >ootball :eague chairman +reg Clarke# >5 $iceDchairman *oger Burden# :eague FanagersO 5ssociation chairman Ho"ard ilkinson# ne"?rofessional >ootball 5ssociation chairman *itchie Hum!hreys# Cre"e director of football@ario +radi and former %ngland defender @anny Fills

    5nother sub ect for discussion "ill be the ualification criteria for re!resenting %ngland#something "hich became a talking !oint as a result of the >5 declaring an interest inFanchester EnitedOs BelgiumDborn 5dnan Janu9a # "ho has 5lbanian and 8oso$an !arents

    Hoddle is unconcerned by !lace of birth

    R think youO$e got to go by "hate$er the rules are of the day#R said Hoddle# !ointing to thee am!le of Jack CharltonOs reland team "hich fielded numerous %nglishDborn !layers

    R Om not too "orried about Ooh# youO$e got to be born in this countryO# if the rules are the rules

    they are there for e$eryone to see R

    hat Hoddle ho!es is that %ngland can !roduce a talented grou! at the same time

    He addedL R4ouOre al"ays going to get talent coming through 5 ( ayne *ooney# a Fichael

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    f the !ercentage of ?remier :eague !laying time for %nglish !layers is alarming# it is moreso for )cottish (3 2 !er cent # elsh (3 1 !er cent and ;orthern rish (0 -3 !er cent

    ;orthern reland boss Fichael erdinand# 3 # singled out the recent clash bet"een Fanchester City and ;e"castle and saidit "as Ra disgraceR that only three homeDgro"n !layers "ere in the starting lineDu!s

    ,he former %ngland international also called for ne" regulations that limit the number ofim!orted !layers in each teamOs s uad

    Fick @ennis uestions >5 Chairman +reg @ykeOs !ro!osed solutions to %nglandOs lack of

    young talent# describing them as fla"edRHa$ing so fe" %nglish !layers in the ?remier :eague diminishes the %nglish team# of courseit does#R >erdinand told ,he Fail on )unday

    R:ook at the Fanchester City game recently against ;e"castle ,here "as barely an %nglish !layer on the !itch# three out of 22 starters

    R,hat is a disgrace

    R f you look at it and ask "hether there should be a sti!ulation that you ha$e a minimum

    number of !layers "ho are %nglish# e$en ust in your s uad# think that should ha!!en

    >5 chairman +reg @yke s!oke to )ky )!orts ;e"s to discuss the state of the %nglish game#and ho" he !lans to im!ro$e the national team

    R f you look at a lot of teams# there are %ngland !layers "ho arenOt !laying for their clubs Dyet "eOre ho!ing to go to a orld Cu! and do "ellSR

    5lthough it "ould be nighDon im!ossible to im!lement# >erdinand "ould look to co!y thee am!le of ,urkey# addingL R "ould do "hat ,urkey do# and ha$e limits

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    R n that country# clubs can ha$e a ma imum of 10 foreign !layers on the books# and no morethan si in any 1.Dman matchday s uad

    R kno" that %uro!ean la"s "onOt let a legal uota ha!!en )o you canOt do that But if you"ant to !rotect %nglish football and its heritage and its future# something like that has to be

    done R

    3lenn -oddle calls for "! to e*plore (aysto limit foreign players in the PremierLeague in effort to improve Englandchances

    "ormer England manager also believes 4uality coaching at a young age iscrucial in the development of homegro(n talent

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    >ormer %ngland manager +lenn Hoddle has called on the go$ernment and >ootball5ssociation to e !lore "ays to limit the number of foreign !layers in the Barclays ?remier:eague

    )!eaking days after ne" >5 chairman +reg @yke highlighted the Rfrightening trendR ofreduced numbers of domestic !layers in the to! flight# Hoddle claimed it "as time to Rsho"some teethR

    %nglish !layers made u! only around 32 !er cent of teamsO starting lineDu!s in the ?remier:eague last season and Hoddle fears that figure "ill only continue to d"indle

    5ny attem!t at a uota system "ould be ham!ered by %uro!ean em!loyment la"s butHoddle insists the matter still must be e !lored

    R e all kno" it is difficult# because at the end of the day the rules are the rules and the?remier :eague "ill ust abide by that#R he told BBC *adio :i$eOs )!orts"eek !rogramme

    R e ha$e got to sho" some teeth f it is a ma imum of fi$e (foreign !layers and the restha$e to be %nglish# "hate$er "e can do "ith the rules# but it al"ays seems they come u!against a brick "all

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    RFaybe the go$ernment could be hel!ing that# but it is a bigger# dee!er issue for !oliticiansand the >5 to get together# because this 32 !er cent is going to get less and less each year R

    Hoddle# "ho guided %ngland through to the knockout stages of the 1--. orld Cu!# belie$esuality coaching from a young age remains the ans"er

    He saidL R e ha$e to focus in on %nglish talent and be bold enough to say if foreign !layersare coming in to fill our clubs aged 1 # 1. or 20# then "e ha$e to build a 10Dyear !lan "hichallo"s these lads being taught by the best coaches D being !aid good money# "hich is "hatthe @utch did D and bring them through "here they master the ball first

    R,here is definite talent out there# "e ust need to source it R

    ,he >5Os head of elite de$elo!ment @an 5sh"orth# mean"hile# remains confident in thecoaching !rocesses in !lace# "hich centre on the ne" facility at )t +eorgeOs ?ark

    R e are as good as anybody for consistently ualifying for tournaments across the agegrou!s# from seniors do"n to under 1 s D "hat "e are not $ery good at is getting out of thegrou!s or through the knockout stages#R he told )!orts"eek

    R,hat could be do"n to a number of factors D through our game style# "ith a highD!ressinggame then by the latter stages our !layers are not !erha!s !hysically as right as othercountries t could also be !sychological factors# and that is something "e "ill be looking at

    R "ould be disa!!ointed if "e did not start seeing a real ingrained gameDstyle !hiloso!hya!!roach to talent identification# !sychology and all the other things# and a real alignment of

    all our disci!lines across all the ages in 1. monthsO time R>ormer ?remier :eague chief e ecuti$e *ick ?arry is in no doubt "here the blame lies o$ermost of the gamesO ills

    He told the BBCOs radio sho"L R,he >5 need to be bolder# they are the go$erning body D dothey really "ant to go$ern7

    R4ou look at the big issues in recent years# "here you "ould e !ect the >5 to be taking a !osition "here the >5s across %uro!e do# and think ours has tended to be a little bit on the back foot and silent R

    ?arry addedL R e should not be trying to dumb do"n the ?remier :eague# it is not abouttrying to reign that in# it is more a case of can the >5 no" !ull itself u! by its boot stra!s andcatch u!7R