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Episode231:Conquering&AvoidingBreastCancer

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Katie:Hello,andwelcometo"TheWellnessMamaPodcast."I'mKatiefromwellnessmama.com.AndI'vegottensomanyquestionsaboutthistopicthatIcannotwaittodiveinwithtoday'sguests.I'mherewithDr.VwhoisthefounderofBreastCancerConquerorandcreatorof"The7EssentialsSystem",whichisastep-by-stepprogramwiththegoalofpreventingdiseaseandcreatingnaturallyvibranthealth.We'regonnahearaboutherownpersonaljourneywithbreastcancer,whichisfascinating.Italsogivesheranempatheticperspectivetounderstandotherwomenwhoarefacingthesamejourney.Havingbeeninthewellnessworldfor40years,shebringsdecadesofexperiencetohelpotherwomen.Dr.V,welcomeandthanksforbeinghere.

Dr.V:Thankyousomuch,Katie.I'msoexcitedtospeaktoyouraudience.

Katie:Likewise.I'msoexcitedtohaveyouherewithus.AndIalwayslovetostartbylearningalittlebitmoreabouttheguest.Soyouare,frommyunderstanding,abioenergeticchiropractorbyprofession.Canyoukindoftakeusthroughyourbackgroundandthetypeofpracticeyouhadandhowyougotintothat?


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Dr.V:Sure.WhenIwas16yearsold,IrealizedthatIwantedtobringwellnesstotheworld.Youknow,itwasoneofthoselightbulbmomentswhenIheardalecturefromachiropractor.AndsoIleftCanadaataveryyoungageandwentonmyquestforlearningeverythingIcouldaboutwellnessandhealingthebodynaturally.SoIbecameachiropractor,andnotjust,youknow,thepainrelieftypeofchiropractor,butIguessyoucouldcomparemetoanaturopathwhereIreallydoveintoalotofstudiesaboutnutrients,andsupplementation,andhomeopathy,herbology,energymedicine.Sotherewas,youknow,compilationofalotofthingsthatIdidwhenIwasinmypractice.

Andinterestingly,Ihadbeeninpracticeforaboutthreeyears,andmyfatherwasdiagnosedwithpancreaticcancer.Youknow,otherthanjusttheobvious,youknow,heartbreak,therewassomethingatthebackofmymindthatwasjustgnawingatmebecauseIfeltthattherewassomethingthatcouldbedoneforhim.Butunfortunately,traditionalmedicinedidn'tofferhimanything.Theyjustbasicallysenthimhometodie,whichhedidinaboutsixweeks.SothatreallywasabigturningpointformebecauseIwenttothelibrary...youknow,1983,nointernetbackthenifyoucouldimaginewhatthat'slike.

Didalotofresearch,spoketoafewnaturalcancerclinics,whichwereafewandfarbetweenbackthenandrealizedthattherewerethingsthatcouldhavebeendonetosupportmyfatherinhislastmomentsontheearth.AndIwenthomeandthatreallylitafireinmysoul.SoIappliedallthoseprinciplesinmypracticeandwasseeingsomeprettyamazingthingsgoingonwithmypatients.Imean,peoplewerereversingMS,andrheumatoidarthritis,andautoimmunediseases.Childrenwere,youknow,gettingbetterbyapplyingtheprinciplesthatIwasteaching.So,that'skindofalittlebitaboutmybackgroundinwhatIwasdoingformanyyearsofmylife.

Katie:Wow.Andthenbeyondthat,youhadyourownjourneywithbreastcancer,ifIrememberfromwhatI'vereadofyou.Anditwasn'tatraditionalone.Canyouwalkusthroughyourownstoryofthatandwhatyoulearnedintheprocess?

Dr.V:Yes.Youknow,hereIwas,Dr.V.Iwasinpracticeforaboutalmost25years,Iguess.AndIwasintheshowerdoingabreastself-exam,whichwedefinitelyneedtotalkaboutthat,andIfeltthatlumpthatchangedthecourseofmylifeforever,Imean,professionallyandpersonally.AndsoIknewrightawaythatwhatIwasgoingtodowasgoingto,youknow,affectalotofpeoplebecause,obviously,mypatientseventually,youknow,knewaboutit.So,asIwasgoingthroughmyjourney,Iwas,youknow,justlikeanybodyelse.Therewerefears.Therewasfrustration.Therewasconfusion.Therewasoverwhelms,youknow,somemomentsofdoubt.Threeo'clockinthemorning,therewas,youknow,midnightsweats.ButIrealizedthatitwassocomplicated.

Andevenbackin2004,therewas,youknow,startingtobealotofinformation,and,youknow,peoplewereconfusedaboutwhichwaytogowhenitcametohealingandreversingdiseaseslikecancer.IreallyfeltthatifIwasgoingthroughthat,Iwantedtobeabletosimplifyitsowomen,goingforward,iftheywerefacedwithasituationlikemine,thattheycouldhaveastep-by-stepguidethatwouldwalkthemthroughandwouldtakeawayalotofthefrustration,andconfusion,andtheoverwhelm.Sothat'swhenIcreated"The7Essential


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System."Thatreallyhasbeenagreatguideforwomen.Imean,we'vecoachedwomenin41countries,youknow,andhundredsandhundredsofwomen.Andsoit'sbeenarealhelp.

AndIjustwannaadd,too,thatI'vekindofcomeoutofthecloset.Andnoteverybodyknowsthis,butI'mspeakingaboutitmorefreelynow.In2015,Ihadarecurrence.Sotalkaboutdevastation,right?HereIwas,thebreastcancerconqueror.That'showIwasknownbythen.AndIwas,youknow,teachingonstagesandwroteabookcalled"HealBreastCancerNaturally",andyetIstartedfacingasecondjourney.Sowhattheheck?Whathappened?WhatwasImissing?Youknow,wasIafraud?Didthe7Essentialsnotwork?Whatwasgoingoninmylife?SoIhadtoreallytakeastepback.

Andjustlikeweteachourclients,it'ssoimportanttolookateachoftheessentialsandmakesurethatyou'reapplyingalltheprinciplesandthatyou'retakingtimetoheal.AndIthinkthatwasabigproblemforme,isthatIwassocaughtupintakingcareofthesewomenandreallywantedsodesperatelyeverybodytogetwell.Allright,Iwanttohealtheworld.ButIrealizedveryquicklythatthatwasdrainingmyenergy,andIdidn'tsetproperboundaries.Anditjustbroughtmedownthespiralof,youknow,facinganotherjourney.So,thegoodnewsis2000...well,we'rein2019now.Youknow,byAugustof2018,everythingwasclear,vibrantlyhealthyagain.I'mfeelinggreat,andIlearnedalot.SothissecondpartofmyjourneyI'veincludedinthesecondeditionofmynewbookthat'scomingoutinafewmonths.

Katie:Wow,that'sincredible.AndIwannagodeepon“The7Essentials”inacoupleofminutes.Butfirst,I'dlovetoknowifyou'recomfortablesharingwhatkindoftreatmentyouchoseforbreastcancerbecauseIknowthat'saquestionmanypeoplehavewhentheygetthatnews.Andalso,whatthingsduringthattimeregardlessoftreatmentyoufeellikereallymadethebiggestdifferenceforyouandjusthowyoufelt?

Dr.V:Myfirstjourneyin2004wasalittledifferentthan2015becauseIhadlearnedsomuchby,youknow,thetimeIwascoachingwomen,specificallyonbreastcancer.Andso,therewasalotmoreresearch,alotmoreavailabilityofdifferenttools.So,basically,youknow,2004,Ididalotofhomeopathyandtinctures,high-doseproteolyticenzymes,justreallyhunkereddown,changedmydiet,didalotofemotionalwork.

IdiscoveredIhadacavitation,whichIdid...Cavitationisaninfectionintheboneasaresultofanextractionofthetooththatwasnotproperlycleanedout.Andthatsatontheleftbreastmeridian.Imaginethat.Andin2015,Iusedmorebloodwork,differentkindsofteststhatarenowavailable,differentprotocols.OneofthethingsthatIdidwastheRGCCtestortheGreecetest,asit'sknown,andbasicallyfoundoutwhatnaturalextractssupportedmyhealingandwouldreallykillthosebreastcancerstemcells.

Ididalotofhigh-dosevitaminCIVs,alotofemotionalwork.Didanotherdeepdiveinthatareaandhadsomemorecavitations,soIhadtohavesomedentalsurgeriesandozoneinjections.It'sneverdone,youknow,andonce-and-donetypeofsituation.Onceyou'vedevelopedanissuewithyourhealth,Ibelievethatit'sveryimportanttokeepapulseonyourhealthatalltimes.


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Katie:Yeah.Idefinitelyagreewithyouonthat,forsure.Tocirclebackalittlebit.Soyoumentionedyoufoundthisduringabreastexam,andIknowthat'soneofthosethingsthatwe'realwaystoldthatweshoulddo.Buthavingactuallybeenthroughthatprocessandnowworkingwithwomenwhoarefacingthesamething,canyougiveanytipsoradviceforthebestway,thetiming,howtomakesurewe'renotmissinganything?

Dr.V:Well,thegreatnewsisthere'smoreandmoreresearchshowinghoweffectiveabreastself-examcanbeifwomenareproperlytrained.Asamatteroffact,therewasa25-yearCanadianstudywheretheycompared,youknow,mammographyandself-breastexam.Andtheyfound...andthiswason90,000women.Theyfoundthattherewasreallynodifferencewhenitcametomammographyandself-exam.Theywerebasicallythesame.Andthemammographydidnotreducebreastcancermortalityrateatall.

Solearningtodoaproperbreastself-examissoimportant.Andthere'sanewtoolthat'scomingoutthat'scalled"MyBreastFriend."Now,thefoundation,"TheMammaCareFoundation,"isafoundationthathastrainedcliniciansforover30yearsonhowtodoaproperexamonwomen.Anditinvolvestheuseofasiliconebreastmodelwith...itfeelsexactlylikebreasttissue,andthere'slittletumorsornodulesatdifferentdepthsanddifferentsizesinthismodel.

Andsothecompany,"TheMammaCareFoundation,"hasaskedmetobringthisproducttothegeneralpublicsothatwomenwillbeabletohavetheaccesstothesiliconemodelandlearnhowtodoaproperbreastself-exam.Becausethere'salotofconfusionoutthereabout,youknow,"Doyoudoitstandingup?Doyoudoitlayingdown?Doyoulayonyourside?WhendoIdoit?"Youknow,allthosequestionswillbeansweredwiththisnewtrainingmodulecalled"MyBreastFriend."Sostaytunedforthatbecausethatwillbecomingoutinafewmonthsaswell.

Katie:That'sfascinating.Andyoumentionedmammograms.Andthat'saquestionIgetprettyoftenbecausepeoplelikeDr.Mercolahavebroughtawarenesstothefactthatmammogramscanhavetheirownrisks.Andsotherearenowpeoplerecommendingalternativemethodslikethermography.I'mcuriousyourtakeonthatandbothwhatyoudidpersonallyandwhatyourecommend.

Dr.V:Well,I'veneverhadamammogrampersonally.Mybeliefandresearchhasshownthatcompressionandconstantradiationtoasensitivetissuelikebreasttissuecanincreaseyourriskforbreastcancerandcanspread.Youknow,youthinkaboutit.Ifthere'salittletumorinthebreastandyoucompressitveryhard,andyouaddradiationtothat,that'snotagoodrecipeforgoodhealth.Sotherearealternatives,andI'mnottellingyouraudiencenottohaveamammogram,butI'mencouragingthemtomakeinformeddecisions.Soifyouchoosetodoamammogram,then,yep,getanothertool.Obviously,theself-breastexamisgreat.Anultrasoundisalsoanothergreatwayto,youknow,assessbreasttissue.


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Thermography,thermographydoesnotdiagnosecancer,butitlooksatthephysiologyandthechangesinthebreasttissuetoseeifthere'smoreheat,ifthere's,youknow,inflammation,ifthere'simbalancesinthehormones.It'llshowupasredhotontheimage.Andsothere'sbloodtestsalsothatwecallliquidbiopsies,whichcanletyouknowifthere'scancercellsfloatingaroundinyourbloodstreamthatyoumaynotevenknow.Andthisisvery,veryearlydetection.Becausewhenyoulookattraditionalbloodwork,youknow,very,veryinaccuratewhenitcomestocancermarkersand,youknow,medicaldoctorswilladmitthataswell.AndifyouhaveaPETscan,forexample,aPETscanwillnotpickupanythingsmallerthanfourmillimeters.Soyoucanstillhavethosecirculatingcellsand,youknow,notbeawareofit.Sothegoodnewsisyoucanreallypracticeaveryearlydetectionwithallthetechnologywehaveavailabletous.

Katie:Yeah.I'msogladthatthereareadvancesandoptionsforwomen,andit'snotjustasingleoptionanymore.It'ssoencouragingtosee.AndI'dlovetonowgodeepstep-by-steponyour7EssentialsbecausesomeofthemaredefinitelysimilartothingsthatI'vetalkedaboutandmyaudiencewillbefamiliarwith.ButIlovethewayyoubrokethemdown.So,canyoukindofstartatthetopandwalkusthroughwhattheyareandwhyyoufeelthey'resoimportant?

Dr.V:Sure,sure.AndfeelfreetostopmeanytimebecauseIdon'twannaridealonefor,youknow,15minutesonThe7Essentials.Soifthere'ssomethingthat,youknow,youwannainterjectasIgothroughthem,feelfreetodothat.Soessentialnumberoneisletfoodbeyourmedicine.AndIknowyouraudienceisverywellawareofthat.Alltheresearch,allthework,theblogsthatyou'vewrittenaboutnutritionandnutrigenomics,andyourpodcastsareawesome,educatingpeopleabouthowfoodcanaffectyourgeneexpression.Soforbreastcancerspecifically,therearespecificfoodslikecruciferousvegetablesandlotsofgreens,minimizingthingsthatmayhavechemicalestrogensinthemlikedon'tdrinkoutofaplasticbottleandsomebasicthingsthatyou'vetalkedaboutaswell.So,that'sessentialnumberone.Foodisfoundational.

Essentialnumbertwoistoreduceyourtoxicexposure.Now,weliveinatoxicworld.Wecan'tliveinabubble.It'sobviouswe'regoingtobeexposednomatterhowcleanwetrytoeat.AndIwaslisteningtoapodcasttheotherdaywithZackBush.He'sthedeveloperofRestore,whichhelpstohealtheliningofthegut.Andhesaidthat75%oftheEarth'srainwaterhasglyphosateinit.Sothatmeansevenifyoubuyorganicfood,thepossibilityofitbeingtaintedwithglyphosateisstillthere,whichis,youknow,verysadandfrustratingatthesametime.Butthegoodnewsistherearethingsthatyoucandotoreduceyourexposure.

Youknow,Beawareofthechemicalsthatyouuseinyourhome.Lookunderyoursinkandseeifyou'reusingthingsthataretoxic,thethingsthatyouputonyourskinbecauseeverythingyouputonyourskinisdirectlyabsorbedintoyourbody.LookatEMFexposure.Iknowyou'vedonesomepodcastsonthedangersofEMF.Andthat'ssomethingI'mreallypassionateaboutbecauseIamveryelectrosensitive.Andthatwasoneofthekeyissuesbackin2004whenIhadnoideawithallofthisradiationwasthatwasaffectingusandaffectingoursleep.AndsobeingawareoftheEMFsandminimizingthatasmuchasyoucan.Youknow,littlethingsthatyoucando.Put,youknow,theglassesthatshieldtheblue,thegreen,andthepurplelights,especiallyatnight.


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Youknow,watchwhatyou're...youknow,asfarasyourlaptopsandyourelectronics,don'thavethemtooclosetoyourbody.Don'thaveyourcellphoneinyourbra.Womenwhohavehadtheircellphonesintheirbraformanyyearssometimesdevelopedtumorsintheshapeoftheircellphone.Imean,that'sbeendocumented.SoreallybecomeawareofEMFandbecomeawareofthingsthatyoucandotodetoxifyonaregularbasis.Youknow,infrared,near-infraredsaunas,coffeeenemas,colonics,doingaliverflush,livercleanses.Imean,there'slymphaticdrainage,rebounding.Youknow,there'sjustalotofthingsthatyoucandotoreduceyourtoxicexposure.

Essentialnumberthreeistobalanceyourenergy.Now,weareonebillionthphysicalmatter.Therestofusisallenergy.Ifwecouldimagine,we'rebasicallyonebiglaserlightthat,youknow,hasafewmoleculesofcarboninitthatmakesusmorephysical.So,howdowekeepthatenergybalancedinthechaoticworldthatwelivein?Well,there'sbasicthings.Youknow,chiropractic,veryimportantbecauseitbalancesyournervesystem,whichisthemastercomputer,excuseme,foreverysinglecellinyourbody.Acupuncture,exercise,youknow,movingyourbodyissoimportant.

TheAmericanCancerSocietyhassaidthatifyoujustmoveyourbody30minutesaday,itcanincreaselongevityforwomenwhohavehadbreastcancer.Massage,reflexology,youknow,justbasicthings,makingsureyou'regettingpropersleep.Imean,sleepisoneofthosethingsthat,unfortunately,35%to40%ofAmericanssufferfromsleepdeprivationandareonsomesortofmedicationforsleep.Ifyoudon'thavepropersleep,itcanturnoncancer-causinggenesandturnoffcancer-protectivegenes.Youknow,youdon'tdetoxify.Youdon'thealaswellifyou'renotsleeping.Soreally,workoncreatingthatsacredspaceinyourbedroom,sotospeak,bygettingridofallyourelectronicsandgettingtobedearlyandnotlookingatyourphoneandiPadat10o'clockatnight.Youshouldturnallthosethingsoffby9o'clockatthelatest.

Andthenlastly,whenitcomestobalancingyourenergy,hormonesisabig,bigdeal.Iknowwomenhavebeentoldthattheirhormonesaredrivingcancer,right?Iftheyhaveanestrogen-positiveorprogesterone-positivecancer,they'retoldbytheirdoctorsthattheyneedspecificdrugstosuppresstheirhormones.Soifwetrytoreasononthisforjustaminute.Youknow,justthinkaboutit.Weneedourhormonesforvitalhealth.Weneedourhormonesforbrainhealth,bonehealth,cardiachealth,immunehealth.Andifourhormonesweredrivingcancer,every20-year-oldontheplanetwho'saraginghormonewouldbedrivingcancer.Sothequestionis,whatisdrivingthosehormone-drivencancers?Twothings,numberoneisyourexposuretochemicalestrogensorwecallthemxenoestrogens.Solookatyourenvironment.Youknow,pesticides,herbicidescandriveandmimicestrogen.

Metals.Soifyou'reusinganantiperspirant,aluminumisclassifiedasametalloestrogen.Itcanmimicandstimulateestrogenproductioninthebody.Mercury,ifyouhavesilverfillingsinyourmouth,they're50%mercury.Mercuryisametalloestrogen.Itcanstimulateanddriveestrogenproductioninthebody.Soparabens,youknow,thingsthatareincosmeticsasparaben'sapreservative.Thatcanmimicestrogen.Solookatthosechemicalestrogensthatyoumaybeexposedtoanddoeverythingyoucantominimizethem,plastics,BPA,allofthosethings,dry-cleaningfluid.Imean,thelistgoesonandon.


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Andthenthesecondthingyouneedtolookatwhenitcomestobalancingyourhormonesistofindoutifyouhaveaprobleminmetabolizingormethylatingyourestrogens.Iknow,Katie,you'vetalkedabout...you'vehadpodcastsabout,youknow,propermethylation.Andthat'ssuchakeyprinciplebecauseifyou'renotmetabolizingorbreakingdownyourestrogensproperlyandexcretingthemfromthebody,yes,thenyouwillhavethoseaggressiveestrogens.So,youknow,suppressingyourhormonesisnotnecessarilytheanswerbecauseweknowthere'ssomanysideeffectstothosedrugsbutlookingatyourexposuretochemicalestrogensandfindingoutifyoucanmetabolizeestrogenproperly.Anythoughtsonthat,Katie?

Katie:Yeah.Ithinkyou'reright.Ithinkthat'ssoimportantandsooverlooked.AndI'msogladyou'reshininglightonthesetopics.

Dr.V:Thatwasessentialnumberthree,balancingyourenergy.Nowwe'regonnamoveontoessentialnumberfour,andthat'shealingtheemotionalwounds.Now,that'saverytouchysubject,andit'saverydeeponeforanybodywho'sonthehealingjourney.Whetherit's,youknow,cancer,orMS,oranautoimmunedisease,thereisalwaysanemotionalconnectiontoadisease.Andwhyisthat?Becauseweknowthatourthoughtsliterallycreateproteins,neurotransmittersthatspeaktoeverysinglecellinourbody.Andso,ifyou'resendingnegativethoughtpatternsandlow-frequencythoughts,thenguesswhat,yourbodyisgoingtopickthatupandtranslateitintophysicalenergy.

Soveryimportanttolookat,youknow,stufffromthepast,thepresent.Howareyoumanagingyourstress?Whatisyourlifestylelike?Doyouhavealotofanger?Doyouliveyourlifewithjoy,andgratitude,andfeelingsofabundanceandvibranthealth,orareyouaDebbieDowner?Youknow,reallytakeanhonestlookatyourlife,andthere'ssomanygreatbooksouttherethatcanhelpyou.OneofmyfavoritesisLouiseHay,"YouCanHealYourLife."Imean,shewasarebelbackinthe'80s,talkingaboutmindfulnessandhavingpositiveattitudeandaffirmations.Youknow,it'ssoimportanttolookatthethingsthatyoudealtwith.

Andforme,specifically,youknow,Ididn'trealizeuntilmylate40sthatIhadbeensexuallyabusedbyaconvictedpedophilefromtheageofthreetofive.Itwasoneofthosestoriesyouhearaboutsuppressedmemory.Andaftermanyyearsoftherapy,andcounseling,and,youknow,troubledmarriagesandrelationships,itfinallysurfaced.Mymotherandmysistersconfirmedit,butnobodyevertalkedaboutitbecausethiswas,youknow,thelate'50s.Youknow,notthateverybody'sgonnahavesomedeepdarksecretthat'sgonnasurface,butit'sreallyimportanttotakethetimetomanageyourlifeandtocalmyourheart.Ifyouhaveyourfootontheaccelerator,sotospeak,youknow,thepedaltothemetal,youcannothealyourbodywhenyourbody'sinthefight-or-flightmode.It'slikebeingchasedbyasaber-toothedtigerandthinkingaboutmeditatingandhealingatthesametime.Itjustdoesn'thappen.Soyouhavetolearntocreateboundariesandtolearntosaynoandtolearntodothingsforyourselfbecausethatiswheretherealhealingbegins.

Katie:Yeah.Isoagreewithyouonthat.Ithinktheemotionalsideissounderestimated.AndI'msogladit'sbeingtalkedaboutmorenow.ButIknowthatwassomethingIhadtoaddress.IthoughtforsomanyyearsthatIcouldjustpushthrough.I'mverytypeAandIcouldjustpowerthrougheverythingandfinallyrealized


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justhowbigthatemotionalkeyis.Andforme,thatprocessinvolvedthingslikeworkingthroughpasttraumasbutalsolearninggratitudeandmakingthatapartofmyday.Andmoreimportantlyformeevenwasfindingcommunity,findingpeoplearoundmeeverydaythatIlovedthatIcouldspendtimewith.Ithinkthat'ssounderestimated,andIlovethatyou'rebringingawarenesstothataswell.

Dr.V:That'ssuchagoodpoint.I'mgladyoubroughtthatout,community.Therewasan11-yearstudydoneonwomenwithbreastcancer.Andtheyfoundiftheylearntomanagetheirstress,andnumbertwo,iftheyhadcommunitysupport,theyhada79%decreasedriskofdyingfromtheirdisease.Sothatshowsyouhowimportantcommunityand,youknow,managingyouremotionscan...youknow,howimportantthosetwoaspectscanbe.

Now,essentialnumberfivehastodowithbiologicaldentistry.Now,Italkedalittlebitabout,youknow,myexperience.Andbasically,abiologicaldentistisgoingtounderstandthatyourteetharedirectlyrelatedtoyourorgansthroughtheacupuncturemeridian.Imean,yourteetharebasicallyseparatelittleorgans.Andifthereisahunkofmetalinatoothasasilverfilling,forexample,thatcanaffecttheflowtothatmeridian,whichifit'ssittingonabreastmeridian,guesswhat,thatcanblockthathealingenergy.Andfromachemicalpointofview,weknowthatfillingsare50%mercuryplusahodgepodgeofothertoxicmetals.Andsothosechemicalsarebeingreleasedinyourbodyeverytimeyoueat,everytimeyoudrink.

Now,Ioftenhearthestatement,"Well,they'vebeeninherefor25years.Iguessthemercuryisallgone."That'sthefurthestthingfromthetruth.IfyougoonYouTubeandyougoogle"smokingtooth,"you'llseeadentistrubbinganamalgamonanoldfilling.Itwas25yearsold,andyoucanseethemethylmercuryvaporsjustbeingreleasedfromthattooth.SoIdon'tcarehowoldthatfillingis.Ifyouhavefillings,thoseneedtobereplacedinmyopinion.Soconsultwithabiologicaldentistand,youknow,talkaboutrootcanalsaswell.It'sveryimportantthatyouunderstandthatarootcanalisjustadeadorgan.It'slikehavingadeadappendixoradeadgallbladderinyourbody.It'sinfected.Andnomatterhowasepticorcleantheytrytomakeit,there'salwaysapocketofdeadlybacteriathataregivingofflotsoftoxinsandsuppressingyourimmunesystem.Andagain,ifit'ssittingonabreastmeridian,that'soneofthefirstareasthatIwouldcertainlyencourageyoutoaddresswithyourbiologicaldentist.

Andthenthelastthingwhenitcomestodentistryissomethingcalledcavitation.Now,notacavitybutacavitation.Acavitationoccurswhenatoothisextractedandthepocketisnotcleanedoutproperly.Alotoftheligamentsareleftbehind.Andwhenithealsandclosesup,thatcreatesapotentialsiteforinfectioninthebone.Andinterestingly,inmysecondhealingjourney,IdiscoveredthatIhadbasicallyadeadtoothsittingonthetopleftbreastmeridian.Itwascalledrootresorptionwherebasicallymybodyattackedmytooth.Ihadnoidea,andtherewasaninfectionintheroot.Anditwasjustareallystrangethingthatrarelyhappensbut,youknow,somethingnewthatIlearnedabout.Anditwasdefinitelysittingonthatleftbreastmeridian.Somakesurethatyouworkwithabiologicaldentistthatreallyunderstandsandknowsyourobjectivesandyourgoalsingettingwell.


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Nowessentialnumbersixistheonethatmanypeoplehavequestionsabout.That's,youknow,whatcanItake?Ithastodowiththerapeuticplants,andherbs,andsupplementsthatcanreallyaffectthecancerandboostmyimmunesystem.Inshort,ifyougotopubmed.organdyouputinthesearchbar"BreastcancervitaminC,breastcancerselenium,breastcancermagnesium,breastcancerbloodroot,breastcancercorseted,"Imean,you'llseeliterallythousandsofpublicationsandstudiesthatshowbeyondashadowofadoubtthatthesethingshaveahugeimpactonhowyourbodycanheal.

Thebeautyofthesesupplements,andfoods,andnutrientsisthattheycankillcancercells,youknow,causeapoptosis,buttheyalsoaffectthebreastcancerstemcellsorthebabycancercellsthatnobody'sreally...youknow,traditionalmedicinedoesn'treallyknowhowtoapproachorhowtotouch.Youknow,youhavetolookat,youknow,whatarethesesubstancesdoingtoyourimmunesystemaswell.Imean,there'ssomanythingslikeIknowyou'reveryfondofandsupportiveofnutritionalandmedicinalmushrooms,whichareawesomebecause,youknow,lotsofclinicalstudiesandmedicinalmushroomsareactuallypartoftraditionalmedicineinEurope,youknow,inGermanyinclinicsthatworkwithcancerpatients.Thegoodnewsisthatthere'ssomanythingsavailabletoyouthatyoucansupportyourbodywith,weakenthecancer,andboostyourimmunesystem.

Andthenlastlyisessentialnumberseven.Wemadeittoseven.Sosevenhastodowithkeepingapulseonyourhealthwithreallyearlydetection,andwetouchedonthisalittlebit,usingtoolsoutsideoftraditionalmedicine.Obviously,useyourtoolswithtraditionalmedicine.Thosearethethingsthatyouchoose,thebloodwork,the,youknow,regularCBCpanels,thyroidpanels,liver,allofthosethings.Butthere'sthermography.There'sultrasound.There'sliquidbiopsies.

Youknow,onetestthatIreallylikeiscalledtheIvyGene.SoIvyliketheplant,I-V-Y,Gene,G-E-N-E,isabloodtestthatlooksforfreecirculatingcancerDNAinyourbloodstream.Andthey'veidentifiedfourdifferenttypesofcancers.Oneofthemisbreastcancer.Andifyou'reinthegreenzone,that'sgreat.Thatmeans,youknow,you'regoodtogo.Ifyou'reintheredzone,thatmeansthatyouneedtobealittlebitmoreaggressiveandreallypayattentiontoyourlifestyleandchangesomethingssoyoucan,youknow,getintothegreenzoneand,youknow,simpleinflammatorymarkers.Sothere'sthreedifferentteststhatyoucanget.

AndthisisDr.NashaWinters.She'sagenius.Iattributethistoher.Shecallsitthetrifecta.Sothreeinflammatorymarkersthatifyoudo,onaquarterlybasis,let'ssay,ifyou'reonanactivehealingjourneyandthenperhapsonayearlybasisifallaswellbuthighsensitivec-reactiveprotein,erythrocytesedimentationrateorESRandthenLDH,whichislactatedehydrogenase,whichifyoulookatthosethreemarkersandthey'realllow,thenmorethanlikelythingsaregoodinyourbody,andthere'snotalotofinflammationgoingon.Sothat'sit.That'sonethroughseven.Imadeit.

Katie:Youdid.Ilovethat.SoI'mcuriousforpeoplewho...mostofmylistenersarealreadyonboardwiththem,like,mostofthestepsatleastthefoodandthenon-toxicliving.ButI'mcuriousif,justbasedonallthewomenthatyou'veworkedwith,istherelikeamostimportantstartingplace?Shouldpeoplegoinorder,orwheredoyourecommendpeopleactuallystart?


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Dr.V:Thefirstthingistobreathe,andtocalmyourbody,andtoknowthatyou'reokay.Imean,that'sreally...youknow,whenwomenfirstreachouttous,majorityofthemareinapanicmode.Andsothat'sthefirstthingwetellthem.Youknow,youreallyhavetocalmthingsdownandknowthatthisisnotalife-threateningsituationandthatyou'redyingofaheartattack,right?Itislife-threatening,butit'snotcriticalatthatverymoment.Soyouhavetimetolookatyouroptions,andyouhavetimeto,youknow,talktopeoplelikeusor,youknow,afunctionalmedicaldoctor.

Youknow,workwithyouroncologistifthatfeelsrightforyoubutalsoincludeotherpeopleonyourhealingteam.Outoftheseven,they'reallsoimportant,andthat'swhyweliketowalkwomenthroughtheactionsteps.Youcan'tgetitalldoneinoneday,butit'sajourney.It'ssomethingthatyouhavetopaceyourself.It'snotasprint.It'samarathon.Sorecognizingthatitmayhavetaken8to10years,or20,or30yearsforyoutobewhereyouaretoday,itmaytakesometimeforyoutoreversethosepatterns,notjustemotionallybutalsophysically.

Katie:Yeah.Thatmakescompletesense.

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Katie:AnotherquestionIgetalotinrelationtocancer,ingeneral,andonethatI'veresearchedquiteabitmyselfisthepotentialforfastingtohelp.Iknowthatthereareacoupleofdoctorswhohavekindofpioneeredthatresearch.It'smainlytopofmindformebecauseI'minthemiddleofmyyearlylegstartoftheyearoffrightfastjustformymentalclarityandthespiritual,emotionalside.ButI'mcuriousifthat'ssomethingthatyou'vepersonallydoneorifyou'veseentheresearchon.

Dr.V:Absolutely.I'mahugeproponentoffasting,intermittentfasting,and,youknow,fastingingeneral.Weknowthatwomen,forexample,whofast48hoursbeforechemotherapyhavefewersideeffects,havemorebenefitsfromthechemotherapy,youknow,biggerdieoffandtumorshrinkage,andthat'sasimplethingthatanybodycando.Weknowthatfastingcankilloffunhealthycells,boostyourimmunesystem,naturalkillercells.Imean,there'ssomanybenefitstoit.Andwedoencourageourclientstolookatfasting,especiallyintermittentfasting.

Wehavethemlookattheirbloodsugars,theirfastinginsulin,theirHBA1C,youknow,theirfastingglucosethatlooksatthe90-dayaverage.Andifit'shigh,thenwedefinitelywannabreakthatdownbecausethosehighnumbersareanindicationthatthere'sthingsthatareturnedon,youknow,oneofthepathways,themTORpathway,that'sgoingtostimulatecellgrowthandcellularproduction.Andsousingfastingisaverysimplethingthatyoucando,andit'ssoeffectiveinsomanyways.

Katie:Yeah.Ilovethat.Fortunately,Ineverhadtoexperienceacancerdiagnosis,butIknowjustfrommyownresearchjustthemanybenefitsoffastingacrosstheboardforhealthandhowitcanhelpwith,likeyoumentioned,bloodglucoseandsomanythings.It'ssomethingIincorporateregularlyinvariousforms,andIlovethatyou'veworkedwithitaswell.Anotherthingoftenrelatedtobreastcancerthathasbeeninthenewsalotbecauseofcelebritieschoosingtogetpre-emptivesurgeriesisgeneticpredispositionorpeoplewhohavetheBRCAgene.I'mcurious.Doyouhaveanyspecificadviceforpeoplewhohavebeentoldtheyalreadyhaveageneticpredispositiontogetcancer?

Dr.V:Well,that'sagreatquestion.I'mgladyoubroughtthatupbecauseIknowthattheHollywoodhypewithAngelinaJolie,andI'mnotjudgingher.Ifeelverysorryforherbecauseshesawhermotherdieahorribledeathbecauseofcancer.Youknow,shebasicallyjumpedthegunandfeltthatremovingbreasttissueandfemaleorganswouldpreventherfromdevelopingcancer.Well,weknowthatlessthan5%ofwomenwhohavebreastcanceractuallyhavethefamilialgenetictrait.Ifyouhavethattrait,therearemanythingsthatyoucandotosupportyourhealthandpreventthatbecausewomendon'trealizethattheBRCAgeneisagoodgene.It'satumorsuppressorgene.Wewantittobeworking.Sohowdoweturnthatgeneon?


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Well,therewasaninterestingstudy.Iforgetexactlythenameofthestudy,butjustsimplyeatingacupandahalfofwholeedamamebeanseverydayactuallyreversedtheBRCAgenemutation.AndIbelieveitwasinvitro,notinalivepersonbutinvitro.Soitshowsyouthepotentialforfood.It'slikehavingapredispositiontotype2diabetes,forexample.Youmaynotdeveloptype2diabetesifyoudoeverythingyoucantoavoidsugar,yourcarbs,youexercise.Youknow,youdoeverythingright,diabeteswillnevershowupforyou.Andit'sthesamewithbreastcanceroranydisease.

Ifyouhavethegeneticpredisposition,lifestylecanchangesomanythings.Dr.DeanOrnishdidamazingstudieswithmenwithprostatecancer.Andjustbychangingtheirlifestyle,youknow,400andsomethinggeneswereturnedonand,youknow,500andsomethinggeneswereturnedoffjustbymodifyingtheirstress,theirlifestyle,theirfood.Youknow,yourDNAisnotyourdestiny.Youhaveatremendousofpower,youknow,atyourfingertipsifyoutakethetimetoworkwithsomebodywhoisknowledgeableinthatandyouhaveapropermindsetaboutit.

Katie:Yeah,suchanimportantpointtoremember.Ithinkwithalloftheawarenessofgenetictestingandtheability,whichI'msogratefulfor,togetourgenesandtostrivetounderstandthem.It'salsosoimportanttorealizewestillhavesomuchtolearn.Wecertainlydon'tknoweverythingaboutallofthesegenesandhowtheyinteract.Andthere'snowtheories,forinstance,that,youknow,peoplewhohaveMTHFR,whichwhenwefirstsortofhearingaboutthatwassuchabadthing.Itactuallyisamutationthatservesapurposebecauseithelpsmitigatesomethingelse.AndsoIthinkthat'ssuchanimportantthingtorememberisthatwe'restilllearning.Andalso,thisissuchacomplexarea,butwedohavetheabilitytosomedegreetochangeit.Ourgenesarenotourdestiny.

Andourpastpodcastguest,EricRemensperger,talkedabouthisownrecoveryfromprostatecancerandusingsimilartreatmentstowhatyou'vementionedandhowhesawthosechangesinhisbody,inhisgenesandeverything.Andeventolikethelesserdegree,Ihaveafriendinthewellnessworldwhoisliterallythepictureofhealth.He'soneofthemostfitpeopleIknow.Hewalksaroundallthetime,extremelymuscularandlowbodyfat.Andhisgenes,hehasapredispositiontoobesity,diabetes,earlyheartattack,everything.Soourgenesarecertainlynotourdestiny,andIlovethatyouremindedusofthat.Suchanimportantpoint.Andaswestarttogetclosetotheendofourtime,whichIcan'tbelievehasalreadystartedtoflybysoquickly,there'safewquestionsI'dlovetoask.AndthefirstisasomewhatselfishquestionbecauseI'manavidreader.I'dlovetohearfromguestsanybookorbooksthathavebeenreallyinfluentialinyourlifeandthatyouwouldrecommendandwhy.

Dr.V:Well,there'ssomany.I'mlikeyou.I'manavidreader.Iwouldsaymyfirstbookofchoice,whichImentionedisLouiseHay,"YouCanHealYourLife."Youknow,shetalkstoyoulikealovingmotheroralovinggrandmother.Andshereallyhelpsyoutounderstandthatthere'sthatlittleperson,thatlittlegirl,orthatlittleboyinsideofyouthatmaybewoundedandyoujustwannalearntonurturethatperson,andlovethem,andjusthelpthemfindjoyandhappiness.Youknow,thinkofachildjustbeingcarefree,andplayingoutside,andgiggling,andlaughing.


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Youknow,you'vegotsixchildren.Ihavefivegrandchildrennowso,youknow,weseethey'resohappyallthetime.Youknow,reallygetintouchwiththat.Youknow,bookslike"MindOverMedicine"byLissaRankin,"YouArethePlacebo"byDr.JoeDispenza.Imean,thatwasabiggame-changerformetoreallyunderstandthepowerofmymindandmythoughtsandhowitliterallycanturnonthosehealinggenesandturnoffthosecancergenes.Youknow,there'ssuchahugelistofthemthatwerecommendtoourclients.

Katie:Greatrecommendations.Thankyou.Andsecondly,I'dlovetoask,whatareafewareasthatyoufeellikearemisunderstoodaboutyourareaofexpertiseandwhy?

Dr.V:Well,youknow,whenitcomestobreastcancer,onethingthatreallyIfinddifficultsometimesisespeciallyThePinkMovement.AndIknow,onsomelevel,they'vedonesomegood.Buttherewasthisimageofwomeninpinkandrunningforthecure,and,"We'regonnafindthecureoneday,"whenreallythecureishereandnow.Imean,weseepeopleand,youknow,you'veseen,you'vemetpeoplethathavereversedcancer.We'veworkedwith,youknow,clientsallovertheworldthathavereversedbreastcancerandhelpingwomentounderstandthatthere'ssomuchfear.

Wethinkaboutabreastcancerdiagnosisassuchatraumaticevent,whichitis.But,youknow,thefirstthingwethinkaboutwhenwe'rediagnosedwithcanceriswhat?Nohair,lyinginabed,beingsick,youknow,anddying.It'sahorriblewaytogo.Itdoesn'thavetobethatway.AndI'msopassionate,youknow,aboutlettingwomenknowyoudon'thavetofearbreastcanceroranydiseaseforthatmatter.There'ssomuchavailableforyounowthatyoucandothatyoucanlearnabout,thatyoucanbeproactiveabout.So,reallytakingthefearoutofbreastcancer.Imean,I'vegotanonlinecoursecalled"NeverFearBreastCancerAgain."Itreallyhelpswomentounderstandthattheycandothis.

Katie:That'ssoimportant.AndIshareyourconcernsaboutThePinkMovement.Ithinktheintentionsalwaysareverywell-intentioned.Ithinkpeopletrulycareaboutotherwomen,careaboutfindingacure,andespeciallywomenwhohavebeenthroughasimilarjourneytoyou.Myheartgoesouttothem.ButIalwaysgetalittlecynicalwhenIjustseefootballplayersinpinkcleatsthataregonnagetwornonetimeandthrowninalandfilltocreatemoreplasticwasteor,youknow,pinkplasticwaterbottles.It'sjustfunnytomesomeofthewaysthatthatshowsup.Andyou'reright.Ifeellikeitfocusesmoreonthefearthantheempowermentandthefactthatwecandothingsrightnowthatactuallycanreduceourriskorevenhelponcewehavereceivedadiagnosis.

Dr.V:Yeah.It'sabillion,multi-multi-billiondollarindustrythatusesalotofsmartmarketingtechniquestoinstillfearinpeopleaboutthewordcancer.

Katie:Forsure.Lastly,iftherewasapieceofadvicethatyoucouldspreadtoallwomenfarandwide,whatwoulditbeandwhy?


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Dr.V:Iwouldhavetosaythatlearntomasteryourmindset,especiallyifyou'reonahealingjourneytomasterthehealingmindset,andtounderstandthepowerthatyouhaveinyourbraintocreatephysicalchangesinyourbody.Ifyouenvisionyourbodymovinginthedirectionof"Oh,thecancerisspreading,"or,"WhatifIgetsick,"allthewhat-ifs,thenwhereyourenergygoes,energyflows.Andweknowthatifwetaketimetomeditate,topray,togetstill,andtovisualizeourbodiesinvibrantlyhealthyformandreallyfeelwhatitfeelsliketobehealthy,andstrong,andhavethatenergy,andclarityofmind,andseeyourself,youknow,rollingaroundinthegrassandfeelinggreat,that'swhatyouhavetoreallyfocuson,islearningtomasteryourmindset.Andthatcanbeverydifficultinthemidstofalotofthenegativitysurroundingcancer.

Katie:Yeah.Itotallyagree.Ithinkwe'reonlystartingtoscratchthesurfaceofunderstandingjusthowimportantmindsetis,andIappreciateyourworkandallthewomenyou'rehelping.Wheredopeoplefindyouonlinetolearnmore?

Dr.V:Ourwebsiteiscalledbreastcancerconqueror,C-O-N-Q-U-E-R-O-R.com.WealsohaveapresenceonFacebookandInstagram.AndasImentioned,wehaveanonlinecoursecalled"NeverFearBreastCancerAgain."Oh,Ihavemybook,"HealBreastCancerNaturally,"whichisanumberonebestsellerinAmazonforoverfouryearsnowinninedifferentcategoriesincludingoncologyandnursingoncology,whichisquitesurprising,butit'sgreattosee.Secondeditionofthenewbook'scomingoutinafewmonthsinthespringof2019,soit'llbedefinitelyupdatedinformation.

Katie:Wonderful.AndI'llmakesureallofthatislinkedtomyshownotestowellnessmama.fm.Soifyouarerunning,driving,orotherwiseoccupied,don'tworryaboutit.Youcancheckoutthelinksthereandfindalloftheresourceswe'vementionedintheepisode.And,Dr.V,thankssomuchforbeingheretodayandsharingyourmissionandyourpassionwithus.

Dr.V:Katie,thankyousomuchforhavingmeonyourshow.Ireallylovetheworkthatyou'redoing.Iadmireyourtenacityandyourdesiretohelpallthosewomenouttherethat,youknow,aretryingtodoitall.Thankyouforalltheworkthatyoudoaswell.

Katie:Thankyou.Andthanks,ofcourse,toallofyouforlisteningandforsharingyourmostvaluableassetofyourtimewithustoday.Wedon'ttakethatlightly.I'mverygratefulforyou,andIhopethatyouwilljoinmeagainonthenextepisodeof"TheWellnessMamaPodcast."

Ifyou'reenjoyingtheseinterviews,wouldyoupleasetaketwominutestoleavearatingorreviewoniTunesforme?Doingthishelpsmorepeopletofindthepodcast,whichmeansevenmoremomsandfamiliescouldbenefitfromtheinformation.Ireallyappreciateyourtime,andthanksasalwaysforlistening.

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