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Elginism n . 1801. An act of cultural vandalism February 14, 2009 Arguments for & against the return of the Elgin Marbles Posted at 6:03 pm in Elgin Marbles A summary of the key arguments / points on both sides of the Parthenon Marbles debate. From: The First Post Should Britain return the Elgin Marbles? FIRST POSTED FEBRUARY 13, 2009 THE ARGUMENTS FOR Cultural treasures from ancient civilisations belong in the places they come from. Museums in Sweden, Germany, America and the Vatican have already acknowledged this and returned items taken from the Acropolis. The British museum should follow suit and put an end to more than two centuries of bad feeling in Greece. Since 1975 Greece has been carefully restoring the Acropolis. Athens now undoubtedly has the facilities to look after the sculptures properly – the specially designed New Acropolis Museum would display the marbles exactly as they appeared on the original temple. The marbles have suffered considerable damage while in London. In the 19th century, pollution seriously harmed the sculptures and the British Museum’s attempts to clean them, using sandpaper, chisels and acid, also caused irreparable damage. It is still doubtful whether Lord Elgin was ever truly granted permission to take the marbles. The existing English translation of the 1801 document supposedly signed by the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire has often been denounced as a fake. Furthermore, even if it is genuine, the royal decree gives permission mainly “to examine and view, and also to copy the figures remaining there”. So it is unlikely that the Sultan ever thought that Elgin would actually remove entire frescos and sculptures. THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST If all restoration demands were met, many of the world’s greatest museums would be emptied of their trademark exhibits. The British museum thinks it best to house the Elgin Marbles in “an international context where cultures can be compared and contrasted across time and place”. Even if the treasures were returned to Athens, many more of the original sculptures are lost

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Elginism

n. 1801. An act of cultural vandalism

February 14, 2009

Arguments for & against the return of the Elgin Marbles

Posted at 6:03 pm in Elgin Marbles

A summary of the key arguments / points on both sides of the Parthenon Marbles debate.

From:

The First Post

Should Britain return the Elgin Marbles?FIRST POSTED FEBRUARY 13, 2009

THE ARGUMENTS FOR

Cultural treasures from ancient civilisations belong in the places they come from. Museums in

Sweden, Germany, America and the Vatican have already acknowledged this and returned

items taken from the Acropolis. The British museum should follow suit and put an end to more

than two centuries of bad feeling in Greece.

Since 1975 Greece has been carefully restoring the Acropolis. Athens now undoubtedly has thefacilities to look after the sculptures properly – the specially designed New Acropolis Museum

would display the marbles exactly as they appeared on the original temple.

The marbles have suffered considerable damage while in London. In the 19th century, pollution

seriously harmed the sculptures and the British Museum’s attempts to clean them, using

sandpaper, chisels and acid, also caused irreparable damage.

It is still doubtful whether Lord Elgin was ever truly granted permission to take the marbles. The

existing English translation of the 1801 document supposedly signed by the Sultan of the

Ottoman Empire has often been denounced as a fake. Furthermore, even if it is genuine, the

royal decree gives permission mainly “to examine and view, and also to copy the figures

remaining there”. So it is unlikely that the Sultan ever thought that Elgin would actually removeentire frescos and sculptures.

THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST

If all restoration demands were met, many of the world’s greatest museums would be emptiedof their trademark exhibits. The British museum thinks it best to house the Elgin Marbles in “an

international context where cultures can be compared and contrasted across time and place”.

Even if the treasures were returned to Athens, many more of the original sculptures are lost

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forever, meaning the set will never be complete.

The British protected the marbles from being damaged during the Greek war of independence

between 1821 and 1833 when the Parthenon was used as an Ottoman munitions store andsubsequently attacked. By and large, the marbles have been better looked after in the specialist

Duveen Gallery than they would have been in highly-polluted Athens.

The British Museum’s legal charter states clearly that the institution cannot legally return items

from its collection: “The Trustees of The British Museum hold its collections in perpetuity by

virtue of the power vested in them by The British Museum Act (1963).”

Before Elgin took the marbles he gained a royal decree from the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

saying that he could do so. While the original document is lost, a version translated into Italian

and then into English says: “when they wish to take away any pieces of stone with old

inscriptions or figures thereon, that no opposition be made thereto.”

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Tags: Athens, British Museum, Cultural Property, Elgin Marbles, Firman, Greece, London, Restitution, TheFirst Post

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1. Mikayla L said,

12.04.12 at 3:05 pm

I feel that the Elgin Marbles should be returned to Athens. The Athenian people are very loyal to theirpatron deities and the Marbles are part of their religion. If we were to take away statues of crosses, or

figures of Buddha, other religions would be upset and asked for the items to be returned. It is the samewith the Elgin Marbles. No matter what condition they are in, and how they are being cared for, they

rightfully belong to the Athenian people, and should be returned to the Parthenon.

2. Nicholas said,

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01.28.13 at 3:08 pm

Yes without a doubt the Elgin Marbles should be returned back to the rightful owners, Greece.

3. Nick Papadakis said,

06.12.14 at 2:52 am

The dispute started when soon after the Greek revolution the first Greek governor Ioannis

Kapodistrias asked Lord Wellington to help Greece liberate more territories and Lord Wellingtonrefused. Greece then demanded the marbles back but the British refused and went on to call them aBritish national treasure.

Since then the progress made was insignificant, even though the latter day British governments didindeed help Greece regain some of its territories that were occupied by the Ottoman Turks and even

though Greece did help Great Britain in world war 1 and world war 2.Greeks do of course believe that the Greek nation are the owners of those ancient marbles, because

when they were taken in 1815 Athens was occupied by the Turks.Nowadays the issue remains alive as an archaeological vendetta and those who are happy with it are

only the extremist political parties here and there.A simple solution exists and it is to display the marbles alternately in Athens and in London.

The marbles do of course belong to Greece, no matter which museum displays them, because they

were made in Greece, not in a lost country that does n’t exist today.But sharing is a good solution and puts an end to the useless vendetta, if only practical ways ofimplementing it are found.

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