eLawyering ABA Techshow 2008

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March 13 – 15, 2008 www.techshow.com Lawyering in a Virtual World: How to Snag the Connected Client Presenters: Judge Arthur M. Monty Ahalt ( ret.) CEO VirtualCourthouse.com Will Hornsby -- Staff Counsel ABA Division for Legal Services Greg Siskind, Shareholder Siskind Susser Bland, P.C. – Immigration Lawyers . March 13 – 15, 2008 www.techshow.com

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Lawyering in a Virtual World: How to Snag the Connected

ClientPresenters:

Judge Arthur M. Monty Ahalt ( ret.)CEO VirtualCourthouse.com

Will Hornsby -- Staff CounselABA Division for Legal Services

Greg Siskind, ShareholderSiskind Susser Bland, P.C. – Immigration Lawyers

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The Need, The Promise, The Challenge

eLawyering

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What is eLawyering ?What is eLawyering ?• eLawyering is a term used to refer to the

practice of law over the Internet. It is more than Internet based advertising. eLawyering initiatives undertaken by the organized bar are usually focused on reaching a "latent market" of lower and middle class citizens in need of legal services.

• Or has it changed?

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The NeedThe Need

• Cost of legal services does not equal value

• Paper methods are expensive• Travel is time consuming and costly

– Direct cost– Indirect cost such as lost time form work

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The PromiseThe Promise• eCommerce

– The automation of commercial transactions using computer and communication technologies• Dispute resolution• Legal transactions

– The Savings and efficiencies• Time• Paper• Financial

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The ChallengeThe Challenge• eCommerce models have not been

adopted by the legal profession• The delivery of professional service is

not just a product but a relationship• Overcoming resistance to change

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It is all about CHANGE !!It is all about CHANGE !!• Becoming a Change Champion

– Vision– Strategy– Enthusiasm– Work

• Overcoming Barriers– Perceived need for paper and face to face

meetings– “I am doing things just fine”

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eLawyering ExampleseLawyering Examples

• IllinoisDivorce.com• Legaladviceline.com• VirtualCourthouse.com

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Cyberspace is like any Cyberspace is like any other placeother place

• Pre-existing rules apply

• Early ethics opinions

• Canter

• Sometimes rules are not a good fit

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Attorney-Client Attorney-Client RelationshipRelationship• Creates an application of the rules

• In the eye of the beholder

• TestsSame service to opposing partiesNot UPL if provided by lay personInformation, not advice

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Information vs. AdviceInformation vs. Advice

• Is it fact specific?

• Does it involve judgment?

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What does it mean if What does it mean if the rules apply?the rules apply?

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Limited Scope of Limited Scope of RepresentationRepresentation

•Reasonable under the circumstances

•Informed consent

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ConfidentialityConfidentiality

• Inadvertent disclosure

• Encryption

• Metadata

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ConflictsConflicts

Intake and duty to prospective client

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Candor to the TribunalCandor to the Tribunal

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UPLUPL• Definition of the Practice of Law

includes document preparation

• Distinguish scriveners

• Pro se exception

• Dacey

• Parsons

• Reynoso

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