Dynaudio Passa 3C Build

Dynaudio installation in Passat 3C Based on Roy’s descriptions (http://petzold.serveftp.net/Partycentral/Forum/forum3/viewforum.php?f=6) I’ve now also completed my installation of the Dynaudio system in my Passat. I’m very pleased with both the great sound and the fact that it has only cost me approx. €800 (amplifier and speakers purchased on eBay) compared to the €4000 it cost on the Danish Passat extras list . Thanks Roy. The entire project has lasted me about 30 hours or so, and I find the result well worth it. But I don’t think this is a one day project to anybody, so be prepared to spend some hours pulling your car apart if you start on this. My initial Car configuration was as follows:

- Passat 2006 2.0 TDI Variant Comfortline. - RCD300 radio and 8 VW speakers (standard in Denmark) - Antenna and 4 speaker wires (one signal for each door)

As head unit I’ve built in a MFD2 DVD instead of the RCD300, and while at it, I also built in a Nokia CK7W hands-free unit. Since my car already had the antenna built in, I didn’t need to dismantle the C-column or the rear inside of the car. I did however have to dismantle the following:

- All 4 door covers. - Lower B column cover. - Lower and middle A column cover. - Side entry covers. - Foot well side and top covers. - Radio coverframe. - Climate Control coverframe - Storage drawer below the headlights switch

I managed to get all the wiring fitted without removing the glove compartment or the driver’s seat as described by Roy. Depending on how comfortable you are with removing the seat and glove compartment, you may find that easier. Choose what suit you best. Once completed, the result should be this installation:

Installation of antenna If you don’t have the antenna installed you have install the two antenna amplifiers (3C9 035 552 A = right & 3C9 035 552 D = left) in the C-column and fit the antenna cables (2x 000 098 657) along the sides of the under the side entry covers. I didn’t have to do this, as I had the antenna amplifiers and cables fitted from the factory.

Replacing the Speakers in the doors I started out by replacing the speakers in the doors one door at a time. For each door, a plastic cover in the door handled must be withdrawn to reveal the screws fixing the cover to the door frame. Removing those screws and the ones at the bottom, leaves the door covers to be pulled from the door frame (gently, but with some force). I had all 8 standard VW speakers fitted from the factory (the additional 2 speakers in the Dynaudio solution are midrange speakers fitted in the same holes as the front bass speakers). To remove these, I had to carefully drill out the rivets to remove the speakers. With the speakers removed, I could proceed with adding the need wiring for the new speakers. I was able to reuse the plugs from the original speakers and the original single set of wires in each door by cutting the wires and connecting them with the new wires.

To fit the wires in the door-connector, you have to disconnect the wire coming from the A or B column and retract the plug into the door and out through the hole where the speakers were removed. When inserting the needed connectors into the plug make sure to make a note of which positions in the plug you have used.

Once the wires are in place make sure to tape them up with isolating tape, both to protect them from water in the doors and keep the wires from getting in the way of the windows when lowering them. One thing to remember: Don’t install the new speakers until you have all the new wiring in the door ready. You need the access to the interior of the door when installing the new wires.

With the wiring in the door completed, you can fix the speakers in the holes using 4.8 mm x 30 mm pop rivets. Since some of the rivets have to be fixed with very little space to the sides of the speaker, I had to purchase a new pop-rivet tool with a head that could be turned horizontally as well as vertically.

Finally connect the plugs in the loudspeakers and fit door covers in the reverse order of the removal.

Cabling the interior of the car Having completed and reassembled the doors, the plugs in the A/B columns had to be equipped with the needed connectors and all the speaker wiring had to be led to the amplifier position under the drivers (left) seat. I chose not to route the cables under the seats, since I didn’t want to dismantle the seats, and instead I routed all cabling from the right side of the car along the side of the car to the dashboard and back down the left side to the amplifier position. I used 1.5 mm single conductor wire for the speakers. When crossing the wires from the right side of the car to the left side of the car (where the amplifier sits) I removed the top foot well covers, and fixed the cabling with strips. Be careful when crossing the driver’s foot well not to put the wires in positions where they can obstruct the free movement of the pedals. As suggested by Roy, I drew the power from the left (driver side) interior fuse box. Using a multimeter, I found a free position able to connect to constant 12V and added a connector and a 30A fuse. I found a Ground connector at the bottom of the A column, and routed both 12V and Ground to the amplifier. Remember to disconnect the (-) from the battery under the hood before doing this part of the installation.

If you are looking to install a MFD2 at the same time, I positioned the GPS under the topside left dashboard using the access to the underside of the dashboard from the removed storage drawer below the headlights switch. This keeps the antenna hidden and the reception has been perfect so far. The 4 signals from the head unit (Front left, Front right, Rear left, Rear right), CAN High and CAN low I took from the radio connector behind the radio, and routed the wires through the left foot well to the amplifier. From the CAN signals I used shielded LIYCY 2x0,34 wire (shielding not connected). In Roys installation, he has routed the cabling under the seats and across the middle column. Choose what suit you best.

Connecting the amplifier Having routed all the wires to the left side of the drivers seat, I was ready to connect everything to the amplifier. In order to install the actual amplifier the amplifiers bracket has to be screwed into the floor carpet under the drivers seat, and a hole in the carpet has to be cut at the left side of the bracket to route the wires to the connectors. Since my (original VW) floormat in the drivers foot well was longer than the one in Roys photos, I had the cut it using a box-cutter in order for it not to overlap the amplifier bracket.

Before starting to connect the amplifier connectors, I double checked each signal and speaker wire by connecting a signal to all speakers one by one and checking that sound could be heard from that speaker. Since I was reluctant to remove the seat I managed to route all the wires from the left side of the vehicle to the hole by the amplifier bracket, using the hole underneath the plastic cover by the driver’s seat to manipulate the wires.

Once all the wires were inside the amplifier bracket, I connected the wires to the multi-connectors according to the pin-out below, plugged in the multi-pin connectors and turned on the funky music!! No further work is needed, and in particular no reprogramming using VAG-COM is required. And just to repeat Roys warning: If you decide to try this installation, it is at own risk. This is not a project that is completed in an afternoon, and there is a chance of breaking car interiors, cables, plugs and other essentials. A Picture of my car completed:

A Picture of Roys car completed:

Parts list 1. Dynaudio System - 1x 3C0 035 456 A = Amplifier - 2x 3C0 035 454 B = Midrange- /Bass speaker front - 2x 3C0 035 453 B = Bass speaker rear - 2x 3C0 035 411 D = Treble speaker front (without the triangle housing) - 2x 3C0 035 411 E = Treble speaker rear (without the door handle housing) - 1x 1K0 035 883 = Amplifier bracket 2. Radio accessories if no radio from factory - 2x 000 098 657 = Antenna cable - 1x 3C9 035 552 A = Antenna amplifier right - 1x 3C9 035 552 D = Antenna amplifier left - 2x N 013 969 21 = Bolt for fixing antenna amplifiers - 1x 3B7 035 447 = Speaker connector for Quadlock Connector 3. Connectors if no speakers from factory - 4x 1J0 972 704 = Connector housing for Midrange- / Bass front & rear - 2x 3B0 972 712 = Connector housing for Treble front - 2x 1J0 972 723 = Connector housing for Treble rear 3. Connectors - 1x 1J0 962 624 A = Connector 24pol. at amplifier (grey) - 1x 1Jo 962 623 B = Connector 23pol. at amplifier (green) - 60x N 103 358 07 = Connector elements for Connector - 25x N 103 381 05 = Connector elements for Connector - 50x N 906 844 05 = Connector elements for Connector - 25x N 103 190 05 = Connector elements for Connector 4. Miscellaneous - 1x N 017 131 15 = Fuse 30A - 1x 000 979 306 = Connector for fuse box

Connector pin-outs 1. Amplifier

Multi-pin harness connector A, 24-pin (grey) 1 = Treble speaker rear left, plus 2 = Bass speaker rear right, minus 3 = Bass speaker rear right, plus 4 = Bass speaker rear left, plus 5 = Treble speaker rear right, minus 6 = Treble speaker rear right, plus 7 = Treble speaker rear left, minus 8 = Bass speaker front left, minus 9 = Bass speaker front left, plus 10 = Bass speaker rear left, minus 11 = Midrange speaker front right, minus 12 = Midrange speaker front right, plus 13 = unused 14 = Audio signal in, rear left, minus 15 = Audio signal in, rear left, plus 16 = unused 17 = Audio signal in, rear right, minus 18 = Audio signal in, rear right, plus 19 = Control in (optional) - unused in my installation 20 = Audio signal in, front left, minus 21 = Audio signal in, front left, plus 22 = unused 23 = Audio signal in, front right, minus 24 = Audio signal in, front right, plus Multi-pin harness connector B, 23-pin (green) 1 = CAN, low 2 = Midrange speaker front left, minus 3 = Midrange speaker front left, plus 4 = CAN, high

5 = unused 6 = Treble speaker front left, minus 7 = unused 8 = unused 9 = Treble speaker front left, plus 10 = unused 11 = Bass speaker front right, plus 12 = Bass speaker front right, minus 13 = unused 14 = unused 15 = Treble speaker front right, plus 16 = Voltage, Ground 17 = unused 18 = Treble speaker front right, minus 19 = Voltage, Ground 20 = Voltage, plus 12V 21 = Voltage, plus 12V 22 = Voltage, Ground 23 = Voltage, plus 12V 2. Radio

Multi-pin harness connector 1, 8-pin / Speaker Out 1 = Speaker rear right, plus 2 = Speaker front right, plus 3 = Speaker front left, plus 4 = Speaker rear left, plus 5 = Speaker rear right, minus

6 = Speaker front right, minus 7 = Speaker front left, minus 8 = Speaker rear left, minus Multi-pin harness connector 2, 8-pin / Voltage, CAN-Bus, Telephone mute 9 = Can High 10 = Can Low 11 = Telephone mute 12 = Ground 13 = unused 14 = unused 15 = 12V Plus 16 = SAFE 3. Speakers Midrange- /Bass speaker front 1 = Bass minus 3 = Bass plus 2 = Midrange minus 4 = Midrange plus Treble speaker front 1 = Treble plus 2 = Treble minus Bass speaker rear 1 = Bass plus 3 = Bass minus Treble speaker rear 1 = Treble plus 2 = Treble minus

Overview: Connecting the amplifier

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Radio - Premium Sound System, Radio/Navigation System RNS MFD2-DVD, Dynaudio, Satellite Radio, CD Changerfrom May 2005

Note:Information for♦ Relay and fuse arrangements

♦ Connector arrangements

♦ Control Modules and Relays

♦ Ground connections

→ Component LocationsInformation for♦ Troubleshooting Procedures

→ Guided Fault Finding using VAS 5051 / 5052

Passat Wiring Diagram No. 73 / 1

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97-944141 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14

T12f/9

T12f/7

T12f/2

T12f/4

T12f/6

T12f/1

T12f/12

T12f/8

T12f/10

T12f/3

T8s/12

610

br2,5

br2,5

sw0,35

R41

gr1,0

B341

gr0,5

T12j/8

T12j/2

T12j/10

T12j/9

T12j/4

T12j/6

T12j/12

T12j/11

ro/ws0,5

ws/ge0,5

ge0,35

gn0,35

bl0,35

sw0,35

gr0,35

bl0,35

gr1,0

370

J519

T12i/12

✱ ✱ ✱ ✱ ✱ ✱ ✱ ✱ ✱ ✱

T8s/15

ro/ge1,0

T8s/16

B151

ro/ge1,5

ro/ge1,5

T12l/6

T12l/12

ws0,35

bl0,35

T54/9 T54/8

T8s/11

ws/ro0,5

J412R36 /T54/16

J412R36 / J412R36 /

B340

R / J503

GPS

62

R1

HF

AM/FM

65

R1

br0,5

18

SB19

✱✱

ws = whitesw = blackro = redbr = browngn = greenbl = bluegr = greyli = lilacge = yellowor = orangers = pink

Power Supply for Radio/Radio/Navigation DisplayControl Module, CD Changer, Antenna Connection GPS

J412 Operating Electronics and Telephone Control ModuleJ503 Radio/Navigation Display Control ModuleJ519 Vehicle Electrical System Control Module

R RadioR1 Antenna Connection

R36 Telephone TransceiverR41 CD Changer

SB19 Fuse 19 (on fuse panel B)T8s 8-Pin Connector, blackT12f 12-Pin Connector, near CD changerT12i 12-Pin ConnectorT12j 12-Pin ConnectorT12l 12-Pin ConnectorT54 54-Pin Connector

370 Ground Connection 5 (in main wiring harness)

610 Ground Connection (Audio) (under center console, front)

B151 Plus Connection 3 (30a) (in interior wiring harness)

B340 Connection 1 (58d) (in main wiring harness)

B341 Connection 2 (58d) (in main wiring harness)

* Only vehicles with CD changer preparation or external CDchanger

** Only models with Navigation System


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97-94415

R12

T8k/8

T8k/2

T8k/6

T8k/3

T8k/5

T8k/1

T8k/7

T8k/4

sw0,5

sw0,5

sw0,5

gn0,5

ws0,5

ge0,5

br0,5

sw0,5

J519

T8s/10can-l

T8s/9can-h

or/li0,35

B421

B415

T24/17

T24/14

T24/18

T24/15

T24/23

T24/20

T24/24

T24/21

R / J503

T20e/10

or/li0,35

J533

T23/20

ro1,0

T23/21

B219

ro4,0

ro1,0

ro2,5

T23/23

T23/22

T23/19

T23/16

br1,0

br1,0

br2,5

366

br6,0

610

15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28

or/li0,35

T23/4

T23/1

or/br0,35

R190

T20e/20

or/li0,35

J533

T8p/2

T8p/1

or/br0,35

or/br0,35

T8m/2 T8p/5 T8p/7T8p/6

bl0,35

ws0,35

li0,35

ro/sw0,5

SB21

T12j/3

T12j/1

T12j/7

T8m/1

br0,5

12

SAT

59

R1

or/br0,35

SB18


Power Supply Amplifier, Radio/ Radio/NavigationDisplay Control Module, Digital Satellite Radio, AntennaConnection

J503 Radio/Navigation Display Control ModuleJ519 Vehicle Electrical System Control ModuleJ533 Data Bus On Board Diagnostic Interface

R RadioR1 Antenna Connection

R12 AmplifierR190 Digital Satellite RadioSB18 Fuse 18 (on fuse panel B)SB21 Fuse 21 (on fuse panel B)T8k 8-Pin Connector, brownT8m 8-Pin ConnectorT8p 8-Pin ConnectorT8s 8-Pin Connector, blackT12j 12-Pin ConnectorT20e 20-Pin ConnectorT23 23-Pin ConnectorT24 24-Pin Connector

366 Ground Connection 1 (in main wiring harness)

610 Ground Connection (Audio) (under center console, front)

B219 Plus Connection 4 (30a) (in interior wiring harness)

B415 Infotainment CAN-Bus High Connection 1 (in main wiringharness)

B421 Infotainment CAN-Bus Low Connection 1 (in main wiringharness)


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97-94410

J519

29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42

R12

T24/8-

T23/6-

br/bl1,5

br/gr1,0

T23/2-

br/bl1,0

T24/9+

T23/9+

ro/bl1,5

ro/gr1,0

T23/3+

bl1,0

T28c/27

T28c/28

T28c/23

T28c/24

T28c/25

T28c/26

br/bl1,5

br/gr1,0

br/bl1,0

ro/bl1,5

ro/gr1,0

bl1,0

R103

T4as/2-

T4as/4+

T4as/1-

T4as/3+

T2dv/2-

T2dv/1+

R21 R20

T23/12-

T23/18-

br/gn1,5

br/sw1,0

T24/11-

br/sw1,0

T23/11+

T23/15+

ro/gn1,5

ro/sw1,0

T24/12+

bl/sw1,0

T28/27

T28/28

T28/23

T28/24

T28/25

T28/26

br/gn1,5

br/sw1,0

br/sw1,0

ro/gn1,5

ro/sw1,0

bl/sw1,0

R104

T4at/2- T4at/4+

T4at/1-

T4at/3+

T2dw/2-

T2dw/1+

R23 R22


Treble Speaker, Midrange Speaker and Left and RightFront Bass Speaker, Amplifier

J519 Vehicle Electrical System Control ModuleR12 AmplifierR20 Left Front Treble SpeakerR21 Left Front Bass SpeakerR22 Right Front Treble SpeakerR23 Right Front Bass Speaker

R103 Left Front Midrange SpeakerR104 Right Front Midrange SpeakerT2dv Double ConnectorT2dw Double ConnectorT4as 4-Pin ConnectorT4at 4-Pin ConnectorT23 23-Pin ConnectorT24 24-Pin ConnectorT28 28-Pin Connector, connector station A-pillar, rightT28c 28-Pin Connector, connector station A-pillar, left


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97-94411

J519

43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56

R12

T24/7-

T24/10-

T24/1+

bl/li1,0

T24/4+

ro/ws1,5

T28a/27

T28a/28

T28a/23

T28a/24

ro/ws1,5

R15

T4ai/1- T4ai/3+

T2dk/2-

T2dk/1+

R14

br/ws1,5

br/ws1,5

T6bx/1

T6bx/2

ws/li1,0

bl/li1,0

ws/li1,0

bl/li1,0

ws/li1,0

T24/5-

T24/6+

bl/gr1,0

T28b/27

T28b/28

T2do/2-

T2do/1+

R16

T6by/1

T6by/2

ws/gr1,0

bl/gr1,0

ws/li1,0

bl/li1,0

ws/gr1,0

T24/2-

T24/3+

ro/li1,5

T28b/23

T28b/24

ro/li1,5

R17

T4am/1- T4am/3+

br/li1,5

br/li1,5


Bass Speaker and Left and Right Rear Treble Speaker,Amplifier

J519 Vehicle Electrical System Control ModuleR12 AmplifierR14 Left Rear Treble SpeakerR15 Left Rear Bass SpeakerR16 Right Rear Treble SpeakerR17 Right Rear Bass SpeakerT2dk Double ConnectorT2do Double ConnectorT4ai 4-Pin Connector

T4am 4-Pin ConnectorT6bx 6-Pin Connector (In LR Door)T6by 6-Pin Connector, (In RR Door)T24 24-Pin ConnectorT28a 28-Pin Connector, connector station B-pillar, leftT28b 28-Pin Connector, connector station B-pillar, right


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97-94817

Z1R11

660

T10s/1

R179

sw2,5

sw1,5

B569

J519 J9

R178

GPS

sw1,5

AM/FM

R24R111

657

12 14

HF

57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70

R50

SAT

R112

18

R172

✱

✱


Antenna, Antenna Amplifier, FM Frequency Filter

J9 Rear Window Defogger RelayJ519 Vehicle Electrical System Control ModuleR11 AntennaR24 Antenna AmplifierR50 Navigation System AntennaR93 Radio Antenna 2

R111 Antenna Amplifier 2R112 Antenna Amplifier 3R172 Satellite Tuner AntennaR178 FM Frequency Filter (in negative wire)R179 FM Frequency Filter (in positive wire)T10s 10-Pin Connector, blackZ1 Heated Rear Window

657 Ground Connection 1 (left, near rear window)

660 Ground Connection 2 (right, near rear window)

B569 Connection 36 (in main wiring harness)

* Only models with Navigation System


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