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Dr. Izabella Wentz, PharmD, FASCPPharmacist,Researcher,andPatientAdvocateCuratorofTheThyroidSecretNYTimesBestSellingAuthorofTheRootCauseandHashimoto’sProtocol

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Welcome.Ihopethatyou'vebeenenjoyingwatchingTheThyroidSecret.TodayIhaveaveryspecialguestwithmewho'sactuallygoingtobeinterviewingme.Thisismywonderfulhusband,MichaelWentz.

MichaelWentz: Thankyouforhavingme.Dr.Wentz,Iknowyou'vebeenstudyingthyroiddiseasesince2009andyou'vebeenhelpingmoreandmorepeopleeachandeveryday.Whydoyoudothis?

[00:00:30] Dr.IzabellaWentz:

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Youknow,formethyroiddiseaseisverypersonal.Istruggledwithmyhealtheversinceprettymuchmyfirstyearinundergrad.WhenIwas18,allofasuddenIbecameexhausted,depressed,andIwasnolongerthesamepersonIusedtobe.Thatcontinuedonforalmostadecade.Igotmoreandmoresymptomseveryyear.Iendedupwithirritablebowelsyndrome,acidreflux,carpaltunnelsyndromeinbotharms,panicattacks,anxiety,hairloss,andmemoryloss.Iwassleepingfor12hourseachnight.Itjustkeptgoing.

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Everydoctor,everyperson,Isawtotrytogethelptoldmethatitwaseitherinmyhead,thatIwasjustgettingolder,orthatmaybeIneededantidepressants.ThiswastheanswerIgotforalmostadecade.Iwouldgotothedoctoreveryyear.Iwasagoodgirl,Igotmyphysical.IwentandIaskedandInevergottheanswersIneeded.Finally,whenIwasworkingasaconsultantpharmacistIlearnedabouthowtoworkthesysteminmedicine.Iendedupfindingadoctorthatwaswillingtodosomemoreadvancedtestingonme.

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Forthefirsttimeinmylife,IfeltvalidatedbecausetheyfoundthatIhadathyroiddisorder.Thisthyroidconditionwascausingallofmysymptoms.AtfirstIthoughtthiswasgreatandvalidating,butatthesametimeitwasdevastatingbecauseIwastryingsohardtobehealthy.HereIwasinmymid-20swiththisdebilitatingcondition.Forme,reallyfindingoutandfiguringouthowtohelpmoreandmorepeoplewiththisconditionhasbeenmylife'sworkandmylifepassionbecauseIdon'twantotherpeopletosufferthesamewaythatIdid.Idon'twantpeopletoloseoutontheirlife.

[00:02:30] For10yearsofmylifeIwassleeping12,13hours.Ihadtorearrangemyentirelifearoundmysleepschedule.Icouldn'thangoutwithfriends,Icouldn'ttakethecoursesIwantedtotake.Ieventurneddownjobsbecauseofmyneedforsleep.Really,thyroiddiseasecantakesomuchfromus.Iwantpeopletogettheirlivesback.Ireallywantthemtohavetheirhealthsotheycouldfollowalltheirdreams.

[00:03:00] MichaelWentz: Now,I'vepersonally,we'vebeenmarriedforover10yearsnow.Iknowwhyyoudothis.I'msureyour

viewerswouldlovetohearwhyyouembarkeduponcreatingTheThyroidSecret.Whydiddoyoudecidetorecordthisdocumentaryseries?

Dr.IzabellaWentz:

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I'vebeenwritingbooksandblogsforafewyearsnowtryingtogetthewordoutabouthowtorecoverfromthyroiddisease.Ithinkwe'veseenagreatamountofsuccess.We'vereachedhundredsofthousandsofpeople.

Partofitisinnovation...

[00:04:00] Anotherwaytomakesurethattheinnovationspreadsistogetagroupofreallypassionate,motivatedpeoplewiththesamegoals,togetthemessageout.Throughthisdocumentaryseries,wehaveover

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100expertsandover60patientswhohavecometogethertosharethemessagethatthyroiddiseaseisreversible,thatthyroiddiseaseisimportant,thattherearethingsyoucandotorecoveryourhealth.

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Ireallywanttoreacheverybodywithathyroidcondition.Iwanteverysinglepersonwhohasbeendiagnosedwithathyroidconditiontogettherighttreatments,tofindoutthattherearelifestylethingstheycando.Iwanttheirdoctorstolookaftertherootcauses,andIdon'twantpeopletogoundiagnosedforadecade,20years,30years.I'veheardsomanypeoplefromaroundtheworldthatittookthem5,10,15,20yearstogetdiagnosed.Theyhadmentalhealthdiagnoses,theyhadallthesemultiplemiscarriages,allthesedevastatingthingsthatwerehappeningtothemneedlessly.

MichaelWentz: Wow.160peoplethatyou've,over160peopleyou'veinterviewed.Thatisreallyamazing,andyou'regoingtoreachsomany.Whatisyourhopeinallthis?

Dr.IzabellaWentz: [00:05:30]

MybighopeforTheThyroidSecretisthatpeoplewillwatchitandthatthey'llseethemselvesinitandthatit'llencouragethemtotakebacktheirhealthandgettheirlivesback.Becausewhenyou'resosick,allyouwanttodoisgetyourhealthback.YouputyourlifeonholdsortoflikeIdidforalmost10years.IputsomanythingsonholdbecauseIwasjusttootiredtofollowmostofmydreams.Iwanttogivepeoplethatopportunitytohavetheirhealthbacksothattheycanfollowtheirdreams.Maybethosedreamswillbecomegoalsforthem.

[00:06:00] MichaelWentz:

NowwhatI'dliketodoisalsogetalittlebitmoretechnical.Iknowhowyouliketogeekoutovertheresearchandgetalittlebitnerdy.Whatistheprimaryreasonthatsomeonehasthyroiddisease?


Notmanypeopleknowthis,buttheprimarycauseofthyroiddiseaseintheUnitedStatesandworldwideisaconditionknownasHashimoto's.IknowwhenIfirstcamehomeandItoldyouthatIhadHashimoto's,youthoughtIwastalkingaboutaJapaneseswordfighter.That'swhatalotofpeoplethink,thatit'sthisrareconditionthatnotmanypeoplehaveitoutintheworld.Thetruthis27%ofthepopulationintheUnitedStateshavethyroidantibodiesthatindicatetheyhaveHashimoto's.

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Now,thisisthewayitworks.What'shappeningwithmostcasesofthyroidconditionsisit'snotthatthethyroidisjustsluggish.It'sbecausethethyroidisunderattackbytheimmunesystem.InHashimoto'saswellasinGraves'disease,theimmunesystembeginstolaunchanattackonthethyroidglands.Hashimoto'shasbeenmybigareaofspecialty,mybigperspective.Itcomesinphases.

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Inthebeginning,apersonwilljusthaveantibodiestotheirthyroidglandandtheycouldstillhavealotofsymptoms.Theirhormonelevelsandalloftheirtestswillbenormalthataredonebyconventionaldoctors.OnereallyimportantthingforpeopletonoteisthattheycouldhaveHashimoto'sifthey'retoldthattheyhaveasluggishthyroid,ifthey'retakingthyroidmedications,iftheyhaveanunderactivethyroid,there'sabouta97%chancethatthat'sactuallyHashimoto's.

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WewerejusttalkingaboutHashimoto'sandhowyouwerediagnosedin2009.IrememberbackmyselfnotunderstandingwhatHashimoto'swas.Ibelievethatmostofouraudienceormuchofouraudience,manyoftheviewersdon'tnecessarilyknowhowtogettested,howtheycangetdiagnosed,whatthosesymptomstheymightbeexperiencingare.Whatarethestepsthatyouwouldrecommend?


Mostpeoplethatgotoseetheirdoctorandcomplainaboutthyroidsymptomsjustgetonetest.Thisisthethyroidstimulatinghormonetest,theTSHtest.WheneverIwashavingallthesymptoms,Iwouldgotomydoctors.Theywouldsay,"Yourthyroidfunctionisnormal."WhereinfactyoucanhaveanormalTSH,“normalthyroidfunction,”butyoustillmighthaveHashimoto'swheretheimmunesystemisattackingyourthyroidglands.Thetesttodoforthatwouldbethethyroidantibodytest.We'relookingatthyroidperoxidaseantibodies,youcanabbreviatethatasTPO,andthyroglobulinantibodies.That'sabbreviatedasTGantibodies.

Thesetestsaregoingtobeelevatedformany,manyyears,sometimes10,15,20yearsbeforetraditionaltestswouldactuallyfindthatyouhavethyroiddisease.Ihighlyrecommendanybodywho's

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beentoldthattheyhaveasluggishthyroid,thattheyhaveanunderactivethyroid,thattheyhavehypothyroidismoreventhattheyhavenormalthyroidfunctionbuthavethyroidsymptomstogettestedforthyroidantibodies.

MichaelWentz: Okay.Let'sassumesomeoneistakingthyroidmedication.Thosepeopleknowthattheyhaveathyroidcondition.Whatyou'resayingistheyshouldabsolutelygettestedforHashimoto's.


Absolutely,because97%ofthepeopletakingSynthroid,levothyroxine,Levoxyl,they'reactuallygoingtohaveHashimoto's.

MichaelWentz: Okay.Ontopofthat,assumingsomeonethinksorbelievesorhassymptomsthattheymayhaveHashimoto'soreventhyroiddiseasebuttheyaren'ttakingmedicationjustyet,whatarethesymptomsofHashimoto'sthattheywouldbeexperiencing?

Dr.IzabellaWentz: [00:11:30] [00:12:00]

Let'sstartfromthetop.Yourhair,oneoftheveryfirstthingsyoucanfindwiththyroiddiseaseisachangeinhairtexture.Yourhairmightbecomemoredifficulttobrush.Itmightstartfallingoutmore.Itmightbecomemorefrizzy,itmightbecomemoredry.Itmightbecomemoredull.Someofthatshinemightbegone.That'soneoftheveryfirstthingsformanypeoplethatmayshowup.Forotherpeopleitmaybealossoftheeyebrows,especiallywhenweseewomenwhoaremissingtheupperthirdpartoftheireyebrows.That'sadeadgiveawaythattheyhaveathyroidcondition.We'relookingatfacialfeatures.Ifyouhaveaswollenface,that'sgoingtobeasignthatyouhavethyroiddiseaseifyou'reretainingwaterinyourface.

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Asfaraslookingatotherbodysigns,ifyouhaveaswollentongue,ifyouhavebitemarksonthesideofyourtongue,that'sapotentialpossibilityofhavingthyroiddisease.Ifyouhavevertigo,that'sareallycommonco-occurringcondition.Ialwaysrecommendpeoplewithvertigotogettestedforthyroiddisease.Ifyouhaveanxiety,ifyouhavedepression,ifyouhavepanicattacks,ifyou'vebeentoldthatyouhavebipolardisorder,youneedtogettestedforthyroiddiseasebecauseabout20to30%ofthepeoplewithquoteunquotementalhealthissuesactuallyhavethyroidissues.Whenweaddressthethyroidcondition,theirmentalhealthissuesgoaway.

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We'relookingatyourenergylevels.Thethyroidisourenergyproductiongland.Ifyouhaveanunderactivethyroid,you'regoingtobemoretired.Ifyouhave...thethyroidglandrunsourmetabolism.Thethyroidglandisourenergyandmetabolismgland.IfyouhaveHashimoto's,what'shappeningistheimmunesystemisattackingyourthyroidglandandit'smakingyourbodyworkhardertoproducethyroidhormones.You'renotcreatingenoughofthosehormones.You'regoingtohavesymptomslikefatigueandyoumighthavecoldintoleranceoryoumighthaveheatintolerancewhereyoumightbethepersonthatisjustalwayshotineverysinglesituation,oryoumightbeapersonthatiswearingtwosweaterswheneverybodyelseisinaT-shirt.It'sgoingtobeimpactingourtemperatureregulation.

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Anotherbigthingthatpeoplewillreportisweightgainoraninabilitytoloseweight.Youcouldbeeatingexactlythesamethingsthatyourbestfriendiseatingandexercisingexactlythesame,butifyouhaveathyroidcondition,you'regoingtokeepputtingonweighteverysinglemonth.Thesearesomeofthemainthings.Pain,mood,fertilityissues,miscarriages,havingchildrenthatwerebornwithdevelopmentaldisabilities,theseareallpotentialsignsthatyoucouldhaveathyroiddisorder.

MichaelWentz: [00:14:30]

Youtalkedthroughsomeofthesymptomsanddiagnosis.Irememberwhenyouwerefirstdiagnosed,Ididn'tknowwhatHashimoto'swas.I'msuresomeoftheviewersouttheredon'tknowwhatHashimoto'sis.I'mwondering,whatarethecauses?WhataretherootcausesbehindHashimoto's?

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PeopleoftenthinkthattheirgenescauseHashimoto's.That'sjustonelittlepieceofit.It'sactuallythedifferenttriggersinourenvironmentthatcausethegeneexpressionandthatgetthegenestoturnon.WhatwefoundthroughstudiesofpeoplewhoareexposedtoChernobylthatupto80%ofthepopulationcanmanifestwithathyroiddisorderiftheyareexposedtoastrongenoughtrigger.

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ObviouslyanykindofradiationlikeChernobylcantriggerthyroiddisease.

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Anykindoftoxin,though,dependingonthelevels,canalsotriggerthyroiddisease.Thiscanbethingslikefluoridethat'saddedtoourwatersupply,thatcansuppressthyroidfunction.Thiscouldbeevenexcessiodinethatcanexacerbatethyroidautoimmunity.We'relookingatothertypesoftriggersthatareinvolved.Anythingthatcausesustohavedamagetothethyroidglands.

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Thiscouldbe,Ialreadytalkedaboutatoxin,butalsoaninfection.Insomecases,peoplemightgetinfectionswithintheirthyroidgland.Thatmayturnontheautoimmuneresponsecausingthebodytoattackthethyroidgland.We'realsolookingatnutrientdeficiencies,foodsensitivities,andimpairedabilitytohandlestressaswellasintestinalpermeabilityorleakygut,whichoftentimes...whichisalwaysafactorinautoimmunedisease,whetherthat'sthyroiddisease,MS,lupus,orrheumatoidarthritis,oranyothertypeofautoimmunedisease.

MichaelWentz: Thelistofrootcauseswasveryinteresting.I'dlovetohearmoreaboutyoursafetytheory.


Thesafetytheoryreallytiesalltherootcausestogether.Thisisbasedonvariousautoimmunetheoriesfrommolecularmimicry,fromthebystandereffect,tothyroidmediatedautoimmunedisease.There'sawholehostofdifferenttypesoftheoriesoutthere.I'vecomeupwithmyowntheoriesbasedonmyownworkwiththyroidpatients,alltheresearchoutthere,aswellassomethingknownasadaptivephysiology.Adaptivephysiologyisaconceptthatsuggeststhatthereasonwehavediseaseinmoderntimesisbecauseincavemanandcavewomantimes,therewerecertainelementsofthediseasethatwerepositiveorhelpedussurviveoradaptintoourenvironment.

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Withthyroiddisease,whenyouthinkaboutwhatthyroiddiseasedoesforaperson,itslowsdowntheirmetabolism.Ifyouwereacavemanoracavewomanandtherewasafaminegoingon,itwouldbeadvantageousforyoutohaveaslowedmetabolism.ThereweresurvivorsoftheIrishpotatofamine,manyofthemactuallyhadhypothyroidism.That'showtheywereabletosurvivewithveryfewcalories.Ifyouwereawomanwhowaslivinginasituationthatwasnotsafeforyou,whethertherewasalotoftoxinsaround,youweren'tproperlynourished,orperhapstherewasaninvadingarmycomingintoyourvillageorcave,whateveritmaybe,whatwouldhelpyoursurvivalwouldbenotbecomingpregnant.

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Oneofthethingsthatthyroiddiseasedoesisitaffectsfertilityverysignificantlyinwomen.Thisisanotherreasonwhythyroiddiseasemaybemorecommoninwomen.Really,mysafetytheoryisbasicallyanythingthatputsourbodyin...Mysafetytheoryisbasicallythis.Anythingthatmakesyourbodyfeellikeyourenvironmentisnotsafeisgoingtocauseyoutohaveautoimmunethyroiddisease.Again,thiscangofromhavingtoxinsinourenvironment.

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Whenyou'retoxic,yourbodyissaying,"Okay,let'sslowthingsdown,let'sgobacktothecaveandrest.Thisisnotthebesttimetoreproduce."Ifyouhaveaninfection,thenyourbodyissaying,"Okay,thisisnotagoodtime,youneedtogobacktoyourcaveandrest.Youknowwhat,Idon'twantyoutobearoundpeople.Let'shangoutinyourcavesoyoudon'tinfectanybodyelse."Whenyougobackintheoldendays,wewerestressedoutwhentherewasactually,whenourliveswerethreatenedandindanger.Nowwegetstressedoutbytraffic.Anythinglikethatthatcouldbecausingusstresscanbeleadingustosetoffthatsafetyresponseagain.

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Asfarasfoodgoes,backintheday,theonlytimesthathumanswouldeatgrassisiftherewasafamine.Nowadayswhenwelookatourmoderndiet,alotoftimesweareeatinggrassesandwe'reeatingallthesefoodsthathavebeensohighlyprocessedthatifourancestorslookedatthemtoday,ourancestorsfromcavetimes,theywouldn'tthinkitwasfood.Anotherthingisnutrientdeficiencies.Ofcoursewhenincavetimeswhenwewerenutrientdeficient,thatwasusuallyasignthattherewasnotalotoffoodaround.Again,thisreallyboilsdowntodoesyourbodyfeelssafeandwhatisyourbodytryingtodo?Becauseyourbodyisalwaysinawaytryingtoprotectyouandtopromoteyoursurvivalaswellasthesurvivalofourspecies.

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MichaelWentz: Wow.Whenyouwerefirstdiagnosed,youactuallywentthroughtheconventionalmodelfirstbutdid

notreceiveadiagnosisrightaway.I'mcurious.Whathaveyoufoundasadrawbackwithconventionaltreatment?


Wewentthroughthiswholethingofallofthesedifferentrootcausesandwewentthroughthewholesafetytheoryandallofthesethingsthataregoingtobeoutofbalanceinmostpeoplewiththyroiddisease.Whatconventionalmedicinedoesisitjustsayslet'soptimizethyroidhormones.Ithinkit'sreallygreattooptimizethyroidhormones.Ithinkthat'sreallyimportant.Whataboutalltherootcauses?Whatifyourthyroidconditioniscausedbyaninfection?Givingyoumoremedicationsisnotgoingtotakecareoftheinfection.Whatifyourthyroiddiseaseiscausedbyanutrientdeficiency?Again,givingyoumedicationsisnotgoingtocorrectthenutrientdeficiency.

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What'sworseisthatevenwithtakingthesemedications,somepeopledon'tgetbetter.Iwouldsayamajorityofpeoplewhocometomedon'tgetbetter.They'llbeonsyntheticthyroidmedicationlikeSynthroid,levothyroxine,Levoxyl,thiswasthenumberoneprescribedmedicationintwoofthelastthreeyears.Theystillstrugglewithweightgain,withfatigue,withbrainfog,withhairloss,withallofthesethyroidsymptomsbecausedoctorsarenotusuallynotusingtherightmedications.Thenwe'relookingattheprogressionofautoimmunedisease.

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Hashimoto's,therearefivestagestoit.Inthefirststagewejusthavethegeneticpredispositionwouldprobablythemajorityofpeopledo.Giventherightcircumstances,iftheyhavetherighttriggersthey'llturnonthatattackonthethyroidgland.Thesecondstageiswhenwestartseeingantibodiesandsomesymptoms.Thethirdstageiswhenwestartseeingthyroidglandfailure.Thefourthstageiswhenmostpeoplearefinallydiagnosedwhenthethyroidglandreallyfailsandpeopleareverymuchhypothyroid.Thefifthstageisactuallyprogressiontoothertypesofautoimmunediseases.

[00:24:00] YoucanstartoffwithHashimoto's,andifyoujusttakethyroidhormones,youmightendupwithconnectivetissuedisease,youmightendupwithrheumatoidarthritis,youmightendupwithlupus.Therearen'thormonesyoucantakeforthoseconditions.

MichaelWentz: Wow. [00:24:30] Dr.IzabellaWentz:

Gettingtotherootcausesisthekeytoslowingdown,stopping,andreversingtheprogressionofautoimmunedisease.


You'vetalkedaboutanumberofsymptomsthatpeoplewithHashimoto'shave,andyou'vetalkedthroughhowtogetdiagnosedandtherootcausesbehindHashimoto'saswellastheconventionalmodelfortreatment.You'vealsoseenover1000patientswithHashimoto'snow.Inthatprocess,you'veseenacceleratedhealingandareductioninsymptomsinonetotwoweeks.Canyoutalkaboutyourapproachandhowyouseethat?

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Ofcourse.There'salotofrootcausecommonalitiesthatoccurwithpeoplewithHashimoto'sandthyroiddisease.Wetalkedaboutsomeofthosedifferentrootcauseslikefoodsensitivities,nutrientdepletions,impairedabilitytohandlestress,impairedabilitytohandletoxins,aleakygut,andchronicinfections.

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SotherearealotofpotentialrootcausestoHashimoto's.WhenIfirststartedworkingwithclientsIwouldhelpthemlookforwhatwascausingtheircondition.Itgotfrustratingformeandforthembecausesometimessomerootcausesmaytakesometimetoresolve.I'malwaysthinkingabouthowdoIhelpmorepeopleandhowdoIhelppeoplefaster.ThesearethethingsIaskmyselfeveryday.Thesearethingsthatkeepmeupatnight.Iwaslookingatwhatarethethingsthatmostpeoplecandothatcanbenefitthem?

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Thebiggestthingsaregettingoffofthefoodsthataregoingtobemostinflammatorytoyou.That'sgoingtobegettingoffofgluten,dairy,andsoy.Iwouldsaymorethan90%ofpeoplewith

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Hashimoto'saregoingtobereactivetoatleastoneofthosefoods,ifnotallthree.Thenextthingistakingouttoxinsoutofyourenvironmentveryquicklyandasquicklyandaspossible.We'reconstantlybombardedbytoxins.Fluorideforexampleusedtobeusedasathyroidsuppressingdrugbeforewehadmoreeffectivedrugs.Evenatthedosesthatit'spresentinourtapwater,itcansuppressthyroidfunctionfortheaveragepersonifthey'redrinkingfourtoeightglassesofwateraday.

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Gettingafluoridefilter,gettingoffoftheiodizedsalt,goingonacleanseofpersonalcareproducts,becauseyou'reconstantlyputtingtheseendocrinedisruptorsonyourskinwhenyoudothat.GettingridoftheantibacterialsoapsthatcontainthyroiddisruptingchemicalBPAthat'sbeenrecentlybannedbytheFDA,thesesimplechangesinyourlife.Thesesimplechangesinyourlife,eatingcleanerandthencleaningupyourpersonalcareroutineaswellastakingsomeliversupportingsupplementslikeN-acetylcysteine,milkthistle,orturmeric.Inmanycases,whenyoudothesethings,youcouldstartseeinganimprovementorevenaneliminationinsomesymptomsinaslittleasonetotwoweeks.

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Oneofthereasonswiththeliversupportingnutrientsforexampleisbecauseourthyroidhormonebecomesactivatedwithinourliver.Whenwestarttakingliversupportingsupplements,thismeansthatourthyroidhormonecanbecomeactivatedbetter.WhatI'veseenistremendousimprovementsinpeople'ssymptoms.Headachesgoingaway,multiplechemicalsensitivitiesgoingaway,peoplereportingthattheyhavemoreenergy,thattheirbrainisworkingagain,thattheirhairstoppedfallingoutreallyinashortofatimeastwoweeks.It'sbeenvery,veryexcitingsharethis.Myliversupportprotocol,Idotalkaboutitinthedocumentaryaswellasmyupcomingbook,Hashimoto'sProtocol.

MichaelWentz: InworkingwiththosethatarestrugglingwithHashimoto's,haveyoufoundaparticulardietthathasbeenhelpful?


Forthemajorityofpeople,thegluten-freedietcanbeareallybiggamechanger.Youdon'thavetohaveceliacdiseasetobenefitfromagluten-freediet.Ididasurveyofover2000peoplewithHashimoto'sin2015,and88%ofthemreportedfeelingbettergluten-free,whereonly3.5%ofthemreportedhavingceliacdisease.Now,about1to15%ofthepopulationwithHashimoto'swillhaveceliacdisease.Really,thisisareallyhugeintervention.Really,thiscanbeareallyhelpfulinterventionformostpeoplewithHashimoto'sandthyroiddisease.Theyreportthattheyfeelbetter,theyreportthattheyhavemoreenergy,theybegintoloseweight,they'renotasdepressed,theirmoodimproves,theyhavebetterbrainfunction.Iftheyhadpain,thepainoftenresolves.

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Anotherpartofmysurveyaskedaboutthemosthelpfulinterventions.I'lltellyouwhat,thegluten-freedietwasactuallyratedtobemorehelpfulthantakingthyroidhormones.Ofcourse,youwanttodoeverythingyoupossiblycanandpullfromeveryresourcethatyoucantogetyourselfwellandfeelingyourbest.Thisissuchanimportantinterventionforyoutodo.Thedietthat'sbeenthemosthelpfulwithmyclientsandthroughmysurveyingofmycommunityanddoingsomeresearchisthedietknownastheautoimmunepaleodiet.Wedocoverthatinthedocumentaryseries.

[00:31:00] Thisisatremendouslyhelpfuldietandyouneedtofollowitforanywherefromonetothreemonthstostartseeingthebenefits.We'veseenpeoplewhohavehadthyroidantibodiesgointocompleteremission,symptomsdisappear,thyroidnodulesdisappearandtheybecomenewpeople.We'vegotbeforeandafterphotos.It'slikeyou'relookingattwodifferentpeoplewhenyouhaveapersonthat'sontheautoimmunepaleodietversusonthestandardAmericandietthattheywereonbefore.


Speakingoftheautoimmuneprotocol,what'sthepremisebehindthatintermsoffoodsensitivities?


ReallyoneofthebigtriggeringfactorsinthyroiddiseaseandHashimoto'sisgoingtobefoodsensitivities.Foodsensitivitiesaregoingtobedifferentthanfoodallergies.Foodallergiesarethingslikeshellfishandpeanutswhereyouwouldgethivesandswellinganddifficultybreathing.YoumightneedanEpiPenandsomethinglikethat.Foodsensitivitiesaredifferentthanthat.They'regovernedbyadifferentpartoftheimmunesystem,adifferentbranchperse.ThebranchisknownastheIgGbranchoftheimmunesystem.

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Now,theinterestingthingisthyroidantibodiesandfoodsensitivitiesareturnedonbythesamepartoftheimmunesystem.WhenapersonhasHashimoto's,they'reoftentimesgoingtohavefoodsensitivities.It'ssortofliketheHashimoto'sfuelsthefoodsensitivitiesandthefoodsensitivitiesfuelHashimoto's.Itbecomesaviciouscycle.Whenwegetoffofthefoodsthatarecausingussensitivities,gluten,dairy,andsoyarethemostcommon.Thenwe'relookingateggsandgrainsassomeofthenextfoods.Thenwe'regoingtostartseeingabigreductioninsymptomsandthyroidantibodies.

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Aswegothroughthisprocess,mostpeopleshouldbeabletoaddinmostoftheirfoodback,maybewiththeexceptionofonetotwofoodsthatthey'regoingtobeleftwithasasensitivity.Youwanttomakesurethatyougiveyourselftimetogiveyourbodyanopportunitytoresetfromallofthesedifferentmessagesthataresettingoffyourimmunesystemtocreateanattackagainstyourthyroid.

MichaelWentz: Youtalkedalittlebitaboutfoodsensitivities.How'sthatdifferentfromnutrientdeficienciesandhowdotheyplaytogether?


Alotoftimeswhenapersonhasafoodsensitivity,they'regoingtohavealotofinflammationwithintheirgut.Thatusuallymeansthey'renotgoingtobeabsorbingnutrientsverywellfromtheirbodies.Oftentimestheywillbecomenutrientdeficient.Nutrientdeficiencieshavebeenrecognizedasatriggerforthyroiddisease.Basicallythere'svariousnutrientsthatareneededtocreatethyroidhormonesortobasicallymakesuretheimmunecascadegoeswell,tomakesurethatwhenyou'recreatingthyroidhormonesyou'renotcausingdamagetothemachinethat'screatingthosehormones.ThesenutrientdeficienciescancreatethyroiddiseaseandHashimoto's.Wefindthenwhenwesupplementwithcertainnutrients,peoplestartseeinghugeimprovementsintheirsymptoms,aswell,oftentimesinaveryshortamountoftime,too.

MichaelWentz: WhatarethemainnutrientdeficienciesinpeoplethatarestrugglingwithHashimoto's?


We'regoingtobelookingat,seleniumisgoingtobeaverycommonnutrientdeficiency.Ferritinortheironstorageprotein,vitaminD.SomeoftheBvitamins,especiallythiamine,andthenmagnesiumIwouldsayaregoingtobesomeofthebiggestones.

MichaelWentz: Okay.Howwouldyouknowifyou'redeficientinanutrient?


Someofthenutrientsyoucandefinitelytestfor,andIrecommenddoingtestsforvitaminDaswellasferritinandtheBvitaminB-12foreverybodywithHashimoto's.Thiscanbedonethroughmostdoctorsandcanbecoveredoninsurance.Theimportantthing,too,isyoudon'twanttojusttakevitaminDorferritinorironwilly-nillybecauseyoucanhavetoomuchofthat.Toomuchisnotagoodthing.Youwanttohavebalance.

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Withthiamine,there'snotreallyagreattestforthisparticulardeficiency.Oftentimes,Iwillrecommendthatapersontrytotakethiamine.Anywherefrom200to600mgadaycanreallyhelppeoplewithfatigue.Imean,reallyhelpthemwithfatigue.I'veseenpeoplewhowereexhaustedforyears.Theystartthiamineandwithinthreedaystheystartfeelinglikethey'reenergeticagain.Theyfeelliketheygettheirlifeback.Irecentlygotamessagefromareaderwhosaidthatshe,asaresultoftakingthiamine,shewasabletogooffofdisabilityandstartgoingbacktowork.Imean,thisisonereallyinexpensivenutrientthat'smaybe$10-$20.Youcanreallyseeabig,bigchangeinyourlifewhenyoustartsupplementingwiththat.

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Theotheroneisselenium.Seleniumisoneofthemostwellresearcheddeficienciesinthyroiddisease.It'sthoughttobeatrigger.It'shelpfulforGraves'disease,forfertility,andit'shelpfulforHashimoto's.Itcanreducethyroidantibodieswithinaboutthreemonthsoftakingityou'llseeabout...withinthreemonthsoftakingselenium,mostpeoplewillseeareductioninantibodiesbyabouthalf,whichisveryimpressivebecausethehigherthethyroidantibodies,themoreaggressivetheattackonyourthyroidglands.

[00:37:00] Peoplewillsaythatoncetheystartseleniumtheyoftenfeelmoreenergetic,theirhairstopsfalling

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out,andtheyfeellessanxiousbecausethereislessofthatthyroidcellbreakdown,lessofthatattackonthethyroidgland.Thereisn'tasupergreattestforthisnutrient,andit'salsoaGoldilocksnutrient.Thatmeansyoudon'twanttogettoomuchofit.Igenerallyrecommendanywherefrom200to400microgramsformostpeoplewithHashimoto'sasasupplementknownasselenomethionine.Thatshouldbesafeandeffectiveformostpeoplewithoutnecessarilyneedingtodoaspecifictest.

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Theothernutrientthatisverycommonlydepletedisgoingtobemagnesium.Anytimeweseepeoplewithanxiety,withtroublesleeping,constipation,painintheirbodyoranykindofcramps,especiallymenstrualcramps,I'mthinkingyouknowwhat,thatpersonmighthaveamagnesiumdeficiency.I'veseenpeoplewhohavebeenabletoeliminatemigraines,peoplewhohavebeenabletoeliminatelifelongmenstrualcrampsbystartingmagnesium.Thisagainisasupplementthatisgenerallygoingtobeverysafeformostpeopletotakewhenyoutakeitattherecommendeddosages.That'ssomethingthatyoucan'tnecessarilytestforonalabtest.IhopethatishelpfulbecauseIknownutrientshavemadeatremendousdifferenceasmylifeaswellasthelivesofmyclientsandpatientsandreaders.It'ssoeasyandsoinexpensive.Ihopethathelps.

MichaelWentz: Frompersonalexperience,it'shelpedmefindoutthatI'mactuallyvitaminDdeficient,andlivinghereinColoradowheresometimesinthewintergetsprettycold.MaybeyoucouldexpandalittlemoreonmaybebeingnutrientdeficientinvitaminD.Istheretestingavailableforthat?


VitaminDisavery,veryimportantnutrient,vitaminfortheimmunesystemandforthyroiddisorders.StudieswillshowthatmostpeoplewithanautoimmunethyroidconditionareactuallygoingtobenutrientdeficientinvitaminD.VitaminDisveryeasytobecomedepletedasyouhaveandIhaveinthepastaswell.Generallyifyou'relivinginanorthernclimate,ifyou'relivinginSouthernCaliforniaandifyou'realifeguard,you'reprobablygoingtobeokayonyourvitaminDlevels.

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Definitelymostpeoplewhoworkindoors,wholiveinanykindofplacethathasawinter,theyhaveahighchanceofgettingdeficientinthatvitamin.MostofmyclientswhogetintoremissionfromHashimoto'shavetheirvitaminDlevelsoptimizedsomewherebetween60and80.Thisisatestthatyouneedtodowithyourdoctor,andthenyouneedtosupplementaccordinglytogetatthatlevel.You'regoingtoseetremendousbenefitsgenerallyinyourmood,inyourenergylevels,andthenyou'realsogoingtoseeyournumbersgetbetter.You'regoingtoseeyourantibodiesgetclosertotheremissionrangeonceyouoptimizethat.

MichaelWentz: I'dliketoswitchgearsalittlebitandtalkalittlebithowstresscanaffectpeoplethatarestrugglingwithHashimoto's.Whataresomeofthecopingmechanismsthattheycanutilizetohelpdealwithstress?


Wow.Stressissuchahuge,hugething.WhenIsurveyedmyreaderswithHashimoto's,stresswasratedasthebiggestexacerbatingfactorandthebiggesttrigger.Stresscouldbeinpresenttimes,sowhatareyoudoinginyourliferightnowthat'scausingyoustressandhowdoyouaddressthat?Oritcouldberesultingfrompasthistoryinyourlife,sopasttraumas.Therehavebeenmultiplestudiesthathaveconnectedpastsexualabuse,pastphysicalabuse,beingaprisonerofwar,alltheseverytraumaticeventstothyroiddisease.

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Peoplewhohaveahistoryoftheseeventsweremostlikelytohavethyroidantibodieslateroninlife.Peoplewhohaveahistoryoftraumaticeventsintheirlivesaremorelikelytohavethyroidabnormalitieslateroninlife.

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Whenwe'rethinkingaboutstress,wewanttogetattherootcause.What'scausingyoustress?Isitbecauseyou'renotsleepingwell?Obviously,thesolutionwouldbetosleepmore.Ifyou'redrinkingtoomuchcaffeine,thatcanbestressfulforyourbody.Reducingyourcaffeineintake.Ifit'sapersoninyourlifethat'sgivingyoustress,thenfiguringouthowtomanagethat,whetherthat'sthroughcuttingthatpersonoutorgettingsometherapytogoalongwithhowtobettercommunicatewiththatperson.

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Someofthemosthelpfulthingspeoplecandoforstressistogetplentyofrest,balancetheirbloodsugar,takeupamindfulnesspracticelikemeditation,yoga,knitting,whateverrelaxesyou,domoreofthat.Lookatwhatarethepatternsinyourlifethatarecausingyoustressandtryingtoarrangethat,that'sthelong-termsolution.Thengettingmoresleep.Sleepdeprivationisoneofthefastestwaystogetyourselfintoadrenalstress.Idefinitelyrecommendmakingsureyougetatleast8to10hoursofsleepasyou'retryingtoheal.Don'tpushyourbodywithcaffeinetostayuplaterorwakeupearlier.Reallytrytogetyourbodyintoanaturalsleeprhythmwhereyoustartrestoringandputtingyourbodymoreintoaregenerativestateratherthanafightorflightstate.

MichaelWentz: Canyoutalktomeandtellmealittlebitmore,canyoutellmealittlebitmoreaboutthegutandthyroidconnection?


There'sahugeconnectionbetweenthegutandthyroid.Weknowthatgutcellsandthyroidcellsaremadefromthesamekindofcellswhenwe'redevelopingashumans.Really,whateveryoudotoyourgutisgoingtoimpactyourthyroid.Weknowthateverypersonwithathyroidconditionisgoingtohaveintestinalpermeabilityoraleakygut.Oneofthewaystogetintoremissionistoaddressthatgutimbalance.Therearegoingtobethingsthatareoutofbalancethatyoumayormaynotknowabout.Somepeoplemighthavegotsymptoms,sotheymighthaveirritablebowelsyndromeoracidrefluxlikeIdid.Otherpeoplemightnothaveanysymptoms,maynotevenrealizethattheirgutisoutofbalance.Justtobesure,everybodywithathyroiddisorderhasagutdisorderaswell.

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We'relookingatfiguringoutwhat'sgoingon.Oneofthebigthingsisgoingtobeaperson'sgoingtohavealackofdigestiveenzymes.Thebiggestoneisgoingtobehydrochloricacid.Thishelpsusdigestourproteins.Oneofthethingsthatpeoplecandoistakeasupplementknownasbetainewithpepsinaslongastheydon'thaveahistoryofulcers.Thatcandramaticallyhelpthemwithdigestingtheirfoods,makingthemlesslikelytohavefoodsensitivities,andgivingthemsomeofthatenergybackbecausedigestionisoneofourbody'sbiggestjobsandtakesupatonofenergyorbandwidth.Ifyoucantakeadigestiveenzymewithyourproteincontainingmeals,that'sgoingtobeahugemoveintherightdirection.

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Theotherthingthatcausesdigestiveissuesisthosefoodsensitivities.Gettingoffofthecommonreactivefoods,gluten,dairy,andsoyisgoingtobeareallygreatstart.Somepeoplemightneedtogoalittlebitdeeperandgetonadietliketheautoimmuneprotocolplanortheautoimmunepaleodiet.Lookingatnutrientdeficiencies,makingsurethatyou'regettingenoughnutrientsthatsupportthegutlining.Thesearegoingtobethingslikezinc,omega-3fattyacids,aswellascollagen.

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Justsoyouknow,mostofthosenutrientsaregoingtobepresentinmeat.Mostpeoplethatrecovertheirhealthwiththyroiddiseasearegoingtobeneedingtoeatmeatwithintheirdiet.Wehavestoriesofpeoplewhowerepreviouslyonveganorvegetariandiets,andoncetheyincorporatedmoreofapaleo-likediettheywereabletogetintoremission.Theanimalproteindoesseemtohaveabeneficialeffectforpeoplewhenthey'retryingtohealtheirgutandtheirthyroid.

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Theotherthingthatisoftentimesmissedisgoingtobeinfectionswithinthegut.Thiscanbeaverycommonreasonwhyagutmaybepermeableorwhyapersonmighthaveleakygutisbecausethere'saninfectionintherethat'scausinglittleholeswithinthegutlining.Someoftheseinfectionsaregoingtobebacterialinfections,yeastinfections,fungalinfections,ortheymightbeparasiticinfections.Oritmightbejustanovergrowthofbacteriainthesmallintestine.Ioftenrecommendthatpeopletestforthat.Ifthey'vebeenonacleandietforthreemonthsandthey'restillnotinremission,thentheyneedtoreallylookatwhetherornottheyhaveaninfectionwithintheirgut.

MichaelWentz: Ifsomeonehasleakygut,howaresupplementssupposedtohelp?Wouldn'tmalabsorptionbeaconcern?


That'sareallycommonquestionthatweget.Actuallywhenyouhaveleakygut,you'renotdigestingfoodsproperlysoit'sreallyhardforyoutogetthenutrientsfromyourfoodthatyounormallywould.

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Inthatcase,supplementsaregoingtobebeneficialbecausesupplementsaregenerallymuchmoreconcentratedthanfoods.They'repredigestedforyouorpre-putinaformthatcanabsorbalittlebiteasier.That'swhyalotoftimesinthebeginningofrecoveringyourhealth,itmaybeimportanttodosomesupplementation.

[00:48:30] It'snotthatyou'regoingtoneedtodoallthesesupplementsfortherestofyourlife.Itmightbethatyoumightstillwanttotakeoneortwosupplementswhenyourecoveryourhealth.Inthehealingjourney,it'softengoodto,likeIsaid,pullfromeveryanglethatyoucan.Whetherthat'sgettingontherightkindofhormones,gettingontherightkindofsupplements,doingthedietandfiguringoutyourrootcauses,allofthesethingstogetheraregoingtohelpyourecoveryourhealth.

MichaelWentz: Speakingofsupplements,whatarethesupplementsthatwouldbemostbeneficialforthosestrugglingwithHashimoto's?


Seleniumisgoingtobereally,reallygreat.That'salsoanutrient.Thiamineisgoingtobevery,veryhelpfulformostpeople.VitaminDcanbeveryhelpful,butyoudowanttogettestedforthat.SomeoftheBvitaminscanbeverybeneficial.YoudowanttotestforB12.Magnesiumcanbevery,veryhelpful.Thesehelpreplenishnutrients,butwealsohaveanothersetofsupplementsthatcanhelpwithperhapsmodulatingtheimmunesystemorhaveanotherroleinthebody.

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OneoftheseisWobenzym,orsystemicenzymes.Whattheydoistheybreakapartsomeofthoseantibodiesthatattackthethyroidandattackourfoods.Wecanseeabigreductioninthyroidsymptomsaswellasanimprovementinthyroidmarkerswhenweusethosekindsofsupplements.Thenwe'relookingatadrenalsupportingsupplementslikeadrenaladaptogens,gutsupportingsupplements,there'svariouspowdersthatmakecontainglutaminethatisagutliningbuilder.Thenliversupportingsupplementsthathelpusclearsomeofthetoxinsthathavebeencirculatingwithinourbodies.

MichaelWentz: WhatroledoinfectionsplaywithHashimoto's?


InfectionsareaveryimportantrootcauseofHashimoto'sandautoimmunediseaseingeneral.Whattheycandoistheycancausethebodytoattackitself.Thewaythisworksisifthereisaninfectioninsideofthethyroidgland,theimmunesystemmighttrytoattackthethyroidglandbecauseit'stryingtoattacktheinfection.It'skindofacaseofhey,I'mgoingtoblowupyourhome.Whatendsuphappeningisthethyroidglandgetsdamagedasaresult.

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Thenwehaveinfectionsthatmaybesomewhereelseinourbodybuttheymighthavedifferentproteinsonthemthatlooklikethyroidglandproteinsorcells.Thentheimmunesystemgetstrainedtorecognizethisproteinsequence.Itstartstoattackbasicallytheinfectionandanythingthatlookslikeit.There'sawholebunchofinfectionsthatlookedlikethethyroidgland.Yersiniahasbeenrecognizedasone.H.pylorihasbeenconnected,Borrelia,thebacteriathatcausesLymediseasehasbeenconnected.Reallyawholehostofvariousinfections.Then,ofcourse,variousinfectionscancontributetothatintestinalpermeabilityorleakygutwhichthenalsosetsofftheautoimmunecascadebetweenthegutandthethyroid.Thisisavery,veryimportantcause.That'swhywewantedtohaveawholesectiononinfectionsinTheThyroidSecret.

MichaelWentz: WhataresomeoftheunconventionaltriggersthatnooneelseistalkingaboutthataffectpeoplewithHashimoto's?


Ithinksomeofthemostoverlookedtriggers...there'sgoingtobeparasites.There'soneknownthatasblastocystishoministhatI'vebeenseeinginmyclientsforthelastfewyears.IwassoexcitedtofinallyseeacasereportinthemedicaljournalslastyearofapersonwhohadthisinfectionandthenwastreatingaccordinglyandtheirHashimoto'swantedtoremission.ThisiswhatIfoundtobesimilarwithmyclients.Whenwefindthisinfection,wetreatit,thepersoncangointoremission,theyhaveareductioninsymptoms,reductioninthyroidantibodies.

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Someotherkindoftriggersaregoingtobetoxinswithinthebody.OneparticulartriggerthatIdon'tthinkmanypeopleareawareofisbreastimplantsinwomen.Forsome,theirbodiescanactuallybecomereactivetothebreastimplants.Thentheystartcausinganautoimmunereactionwithinthebody.TheotherkindofrootcausesthatIdon'tthinkalotofpeopleareawareofaregoingtobetraumaticstressandhavinganimpairedstressresponse.Gettingtothatandresettingitisgoingtobereallyimportantforthosepeoplewhomthatisarootcauseandforwhomthatisatrigger.

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It'sveryhelpfulforpeopletomakeahealthtimelinewheretheygothroughtheirlifestartingatbirthandtheystartnotingdownwhatkindofthingsintheirliveshaveoccurred.Anytypesofillnesses,anykindsofaccidents,anykindsofsurgeriesthey'vehad,anykindsoftraumaticeventsthey'vehad,andlookatthatandreviewthatandseewhatsomeofthecontributingfactorsmighthavebeen.Speakingofaccidents,whiplash,forexample,canbringonthyroiddisease.Anythingreallythatdamagesthethyroidglandormakesyourbodyfeelthatit'snotsafe,again,canbecontributingtothyroiddiseaseandthatmechanismof,hey,IwanttohelpyousurvivesoI'mgoingtoshutthingsdownforyou.

MichaelWentz: Youmentionedremissionafewmomentsago.DoyoubelieveremissionispossiblewithinHashimoto's?


Absolutely.WhenIwasfirstdiagnosed,thedoctorsthatIsaw,whowereverykindandverywonderfulbrilliantpeople,theyunfortunatelydidn'tbelievethatwastobethecase.Theysaid,"OnceyouhaveHashimoto's,there'snothingyoucanreallydoaboutitotherthantotakethyroidmedications.Yourthyroidglandwillcontinuetoburnitselfoutandthenyou'reprobablygoingtobeatriskforothertypesofautoimmuneconditions.Let'sjustkeephavingyoucomingback.There'snothingyoucanreallydoaboutthoseantibodies."

[00:55:00] I'veseentimeandtimeagainwithmyselfandwithmyclientsandreadersandpeoplewithinthedocumentaryandtheprofessionalsthataren'twithinthedocumentarythathavehadthesameresultsoverandoveragainofseeingthyroidpatientsgettingintoremission,peoplerecoveringtheirhealth,peoplenolongertestingpositiveforHashimoto'sandnolongerhavingthesymptomsofHashimoto's.Insomecases,peoplehavebeenabletoweanoffofthyroidmedications,too.


Howdoyouviewfamily,friends,husbands,spouses?HowdotheyhaveaconnectionandhowdoesthatworkwithHashimoto's?


Interestingquestion.Hashimoto'scanbeverystressfulforthewholefamily.Ithinkoneofthechallengesisthatit'saninvisibleillness.Mostpeoplethatarelovedonesofthepersonthat'ssickdon'treallyquitegetthatthepersonissick.Iknowmyparentsusedtoteasemeaboutbeinglazy.IknowsometimeswhenyouandIfirststarteddating,youwouldrunintoroomsandbelike,"Whyareyoustillsleeping?You'remissingoutonthewholeday.What'sgoingon?What'swrongwithyou?"Then,youwouldtrytobehelpfulandyou'dsay,"Maybeyoushouldexercisebeforebedormaybeyoushouldtrythisandmaybejustmakeyourselfwakeup.Maybethatwillhelp."

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Ithinkinmostcasesfamilymembersareverywell-meaning,buttheyjustdon'treallyunderstandwhat'sgoingononthesurfaceofthepersonthat'ssick.

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OneofthefirsttimesthatIthinkyoureallygotaglimpseintowhatitfeltformetohaveHashimoto'sandwhatitfeltformetofeellikeiswhenyouwentonthepaleodietwithmeandyousawanimprovementinyourhealth.Youfeltbetterandyou'relike,"Wow.Ifeelbetterbuttherewasnothingreallywrongwithmebefore.Izabellasaidthatshewasfeelingunwellandnowshe'sfeelinggood.Wow,Ireallygetitnowhowbadshemusthavefelt."TherewasanothertimewhenIhadsurgeryandIwasn'tinpainbutyousawthesebandagesonmybodyandyouwerelike,"OhmyGod,what'shappeningtoyou?"

Ithinkthechallengesthatfamilymembersdon'toftenunderstandwhat'sgoingonwiththepersonthat'ssick,andalotoftimesthepeoplethataresicktrytoeithersuppressthatthey'resickand

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pretendthateverythingisgoodortheymightoveractandtheymightoverexaggeratebecausetheyreallywantthatvalidationfromtheirfamilymembers.Theywanttobeunderstoodandtheywanttobeheard.

MichaelWentz: Yeah,thankyouforthat.ItistoughtohaveawifewithHashimoto's,butit'sreallyinterestingtoseethatlifestylechangescanhaveanimpact,andahugeimpact.


Ithinkoneofthekeythingsforanyfamilymembersthatarelisteningistoknowthatthepeoplethatrecovertheirhealth,there'sareasonwhyI'mdoingsowellandyou'resittingherewithmeistheytendtohaveverysupportivefamilymembersandspouses.Thankyouforbeingmyperson.


ThroughoutthisprocessI'velearnedquiteabitaboutHashimoto'sandinhelpingyougetthismissiontotheworld.It'sbeenapassionofminethelastcoupleyears.WhatI'vealsolearnedisthatthere'sageneticcomponent,soifyoudohavefamilyoutthere,andIthoughtthatmightbesomethingyoucouldtalkalittlebitmore.


Right.Wedoknowthatitrunsinfamilies.Wheneverwehaveapersonwho'sbeendiagnosedwiththyroiddisease,youwanttomakesurethatyougetyourfamilymemberstestedaswell.Getyourchildrentested.Youmightjusthelpthempreventgoingthroughadepressionorareallybigstruggle.Inkids,thebiggestmanifestationofthyroiddiseaseisoftentimesgoingtobedepression.Ifyouhavesisters,ifyouhavedaughters,getthemtestedbecausetheymightbeatgreaterriskforhavingfertilityissuesandmiscarriages.Ifyoucanfindoutthattheyhaveathyroidconditionandtreatitaccordingly,youcanpreventthat.

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Thisisahugely,hugelyimportantthing,especiallyforthewomeninyourfamily.Foreverymanthathasthecondition,aboutfivetoeightwomenhaveit.Nottoignoremen,ofcourse.Wedowanttomakesurethatwe,ideallyforme,IwouldloveforeverybodytogettestedandgettherightkindoftestsowecancatchHashimoto'sandthyroiddiseaseintheearlystages.Wecanpreventtheprogressionofthecondition.Inanidealworldwewouldn'thavetotakethyroidhormones.Insomecases,peopledohavetotakethyroidhormoneslifelong,foralongterm.Ifwecancatchthyroiddiseaseearlier,thatwouldbemuchbetterbecauseit'smucheasiertopreventdamagetothethyroidglandthanitistoregeneratethyroidtissue.

MichaelWentz: Right.Speakingofregeneratingthyroidtissue,isthatpossible,andhowdoesthatwork?


Actually,itis.Thisisanewinnovationthatjustcameoutinthelastfewyears.Notmanypeopleareawareofthis.Forsomepeopleithappensspontaneously,thatyougetridoftheirtriggersorrootcausesandtheirconditiongoesintoremission.Thentheirthyroidtissueslowlyrebuildsitself.Wehaven'treallybeenabletoidentifythefactorsthatbringaboutthetissueregeneration.Wedohavesometoolsthatcanbeusedthatcanhelpalotofpeople.Oneofthemislowlevellasertherapythatwediscussedthroughoutthisdocumentaryaswell.Episodethreeiswherewetalkaboutthis.

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Abouthalfofthepeopleinonestudythatgotlowlevellasertherapyovertheirthyroidglandwereabletoweanoffoftheirthyroidmedicationscompletely.Theotherhalfdidseeareductionintheneedformedication.Ifthat'ssomethingthat'sagoalforpeople,unlessthey'vehadathyroidectomyorradioactivethyroidiodine,theyshouldbeabletoutilizethattherapy,andhopefullythatwillhelpthemreduceorpotentiallyminimizethedosageofmedication.Justsopeopleknow,that'snotastandalonetherapy.Youdowanttousethatalongwiththelifestylechanges,alongwithgettingtotherootcauseofyourcondition,too.

MichaelWentz: IsthereacureforHashimoto's?


Youknow,there'snocureforHashimoto's.Withthecurrentinterventions,withthecurrentrootcauseapproach,andwithpotentiallyusinglow-leveltherapy,andwithpotentiallyusinginnovativetherapies,wecaneliminateallofthesymptoms.Wecangetapersonintoremission,tonolongertestpositiveforpositiveantibodies,andinsomecaseswecaneliminatetheneedforthyroidmedications.

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Inaway,thepersonwillstillgeneticallyhaveHashimoto's,butaswetalkedabout,about80%ofthepeopledohavethatintheirgenes.It'samatterofifwe'reexpressingitornotexpressingit.Inaway,youcouldsaybycausingyoutonolongerexpressit,youcouldbecreatingafunctionalcurefortheconditionwhichIthinkisreally,reallyexciting.

MichaelWentz: Towrapthisup,whatisyourhopeforTheThyroidSecret?Whatisyourhope,what'syourmission,andwherecanpeoplefindmoreinformationaboutthis?


Myhopeandmymissionforthisbigamazingprojectthathasbroughtsomanywonderfulexpertsandaproductionteamandyourself-you'vebeenmanagingthisbehind-the-scenesthewholetimeandmakingithappen-hasbeentogetthemessageouttherethatrecoveringyourhealthispossibleandhelpingpeople,givingthemthetoolswheretheycanrecovertheirhealthontheirown.Ialsoreallywanttochangetheconversationaroundthyroiddisease.Rightnowit'ssortoflikeendocrinology'suglystepchild.Nobodyreallypaysattentiontothyroidpatients.They'reoftentimesignored,they'retoldit'sintheirheads,they'retoldthattheyjustneedtotakethisonepillandgoaway.Whenthey'renotfeelingbetter,everybodysaysokay,gotothepsychiatrist.

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Ireallywanttochangethat.Iwanttovalidatetheexperienceforpeoplewiththyroiddisease,showthem,showpeoplewhatit'sliketolivewithathyroiddisorderandalsoshowthemthewayout.Really,myhopeisthatpeoplewillwatchthisdocumentaryseriesandthenthey'llseesomesolutionsthattheycanstartimplementingintheirlivesatthisverymoment.I'mhopingtoseethousands,maybemillions,ofsuccessstoriesasaresultofthisdocumentaryseries.

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Pleasewritetomeandletmeknowhowthisdocumentaryhasimpactedyourlife,howit'schangedyourlife,andkeepintouch.Letmeknowinamonth,intwomonths,inthreemonthsasyou'vegonethroughthedocumentaryandasyou'vedonetheselifestylechanges,whatabigimpactithasbeenforyou.BecauseIknowfrommyownexperience,andtheexperienceofmythyroidcommunity,aswellasthethyroidcommunitiesofalloftheexpertsthatwerefeaturedinthisdocumentary,youabsolutelycangetyourlifebackandyoucanrecoveryourhealthwherepeoplecanlearnmore.

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Obviously,youcouldgotothethyroidsecret.com.That'sagreatplacetostart.Mypersonalwebsiteisthyroidpharmacist.comwhereyoucangoandgetmoreinformationfrommeonallthingsaboutHashimoto's.I'vegotatonofreallygreatfantasticresourcesandsomefreegiveawaysifyouguysgotothyroidpharmacist.com/gift.Wehavealotofinformationaboutnutrientdeficienciesandgettingyoustartedonthepathtohealing.Givingyousometangibletoolsyoucangetstartedwithrightaway.

MichaelWentz: Justlastly,youhaveonebookthatisaNewYorkTimesbestsellerandanotherbookthat'scomingout.Canyoujustbrieflytalkaboutthose?


Oh,sure,ofcourse.Ihavethis,Hashimoto'sTheRootCause,thiswasthefirstbookthatIwrote.Ittookmeaboutthreeyearsofresearchandaboutayearofwriting.Wedidn'ttalkmuchthen,didwe?I'vereallywantedtogetthisbookouttopeople.AtthetimethatIwrotethisbook,Iwasworkingasaconsultantpharmacistinpublichealth.Reallywritingthisbookputmyreputationasapharmacistonthelineandputmycareerontheline,aswell,becausemynextlogicalpathwasworkingforamajorpharmaceuticalcompanyinmycareer.HereIwasapharmacistthatwassaying,"Drugsarenottheonlyanswer."

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Luckily,it'sbeenreallywellreceivedbypatientsanddoctorsworldwide.ThebookhasreachedtheNewYorkTimes.It'sgotover1,000reviewsfrompeoplewithHashimoto'swhoaresayingthatithelpedthemunderstandtheconditionsbetter,helpedthemrecovertheirhealth.We'vecreatedover500successstoriesjustwiththisbookalone.I'mvery,veryproudofit.I'mvery,veryhumbledbywherethisbookhasbeen.

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Really,mygoalwastogetitoutintotheworldandhelpmyfamilymembers.ThebackstoryisthatIhavesomecousinswholiveinPolandthatwerediagnosedwithHashimoto's.Mymomisaphysician

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andshesaid,"Youneedtowritedowneverythingthatyou'redoing,youneedtobookabooktogether,andthenI'mgoingtotranslateitintoPolish."That'sreallyhowthebookstarted.Myhusband,Michael,wasavery,veryimportantpartoftheprocess,aswell,becausehehadwrittensomebooksbefore.Hegavemesometoolsoncoaching,gentle,lovingremindersoflike,howareyourchaptersgoing?Thisbookwasreallyalaboroflove.It'scalledHashimoto'sThyroiditis,LifestyleInterventionsforFindingandTreatingtheRootCause.ItriedtogeteverysinglepossiblewordintherebutyoucanjustlookforHashimoto'sTheRootCauseonAmazon.

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TheotherbookthatIhavecomingoutiscalledHashimoto'sProtocol.Thisisaculminationofmyworkwithclients.Thistalksaboutmyfundamentalprotocolsforrecoveringyourhealth,liketheliversupportprotocol.Thisisreallylikeyourshortcuttohealingandrecoveringyourhealth.Thefirstpartgivesyouaplan,likeanactualplanonhowtodoso.Thenthesecondpartgoesthroughsomeoftheadvancedrootcausesthatyoumighthave.Someofthoserarethingsthatmostpeopledon'tknowaboutaregoingtobeinthisbook.ThisisavailableonAmazonaswell,Hashimoto'sProtocol.Ihopethatallofthisinformation,thedocumentaryseries,mywebsite,thesebooks,andtheworkthatwe'redoingoutintotheworldishelpfulonyourjourney.

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