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    Nothing beats engineering talent

    the agile transformation at ING

    DevOps Enterprise Summit

    LondonJune 30th2016Ron van Kemenade CIO ING

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    Ron van Kemenade CIO ING

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    @RonvanK1965

    Responsible for: All banking technology in ING

    IT Staff: 10.000 (incl. externals)

    In this position: Over 3 years

    I find the impact that the IT has on the customer experience very motivating.

    Quality of IT is more defined by skills and knowledge of people, rather thanprocess adherence.

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    ING is a global financial service provider servicing more34 million customers

    Customers:

    Employees (by

    Market Capital

    Total assets:

    Income:

    Underlying net

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    We empower people to stay a step ahead in life and in

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    Looking back to 2010 our IT would not have been able tthis strategy

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    Technology is a commodity

    We have internal customers

    IT is a cost center

    Quality through process adherence

    Lot of manual work & handovers

    Multiple sourcing partners

    Scattered IT landscape

    Non-functionals provided by infra

    Everyone

    So lets give

    So lets cut

    CMMI rules

    Lets wait for s

    delivWho do I call thappe

    Is there anybodyhow to

    Business jusfunctio

    Starting position

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    Coming from my blog: Proud to be IT - the Java community (June 201

    IT is a beautiful profession.

    Sometimes however, we get lost in governance, procedures, documcontrols and alignments. Don't get me wrong; it's all necessary, but

    You simply forget IT is a great profession. How often do we really fe

    get recognition for real craftsmanship?...

    Instead of complaining . we pick up the challenge

    Let's feel proud again, and show the organisation that IT is a great p

    To spark the change we addressed the engineering cul

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    To get the fire going we set the example by creating a mobile app Dev team

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    Make people aware of the change thatneeds to happen

    We started a Guerilla camp

    Make the change visibleWe put the team in the midbuilding

    Let the movement spreadWe allowed people to copyexperiment and learn for th

    Celebrate success We organized the engineer

    Join the movement yourselfWe showed up frequently awith the teams

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    Jan 2010 Willingness to change New IT Management team

    Jun 2010 An engineering culture Google IO

    Oct 2010 First scrum teams New Mobile app development

    Apr 2011 Start with automated deployments Continuous Delivery (Jez Humb

    Feb 2012 Platform-as-a-Services Discussion who runs productio

    May 2013 First DevOps JavaOne

    Sep 2014 Web scalable architecture Netflix (triggered by ING Resilien

    Jun 2015 BizDevOps Spotify

    Nov 2015 Professionalise IT engineering profile Dreyfus model

    Our transformation journey has been marked by severmoments of truth

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    During our transformation we have faced serious challe

    Capabilities

    Businessinvolvement

    Technology

    Key questionChallenge

    Significantly different knowledge andcompetencies are required

    Adaptability of the workforce

    How do you trai

    What is the rightraining, hiring a

    Not only the IT side is required to change, butalso the business side

    New interaction model needs business peopleto get much more involved in IT delivery

    How do you effecbusiness?

    Large part of traditional applicationtechnologies are in legacy technologies withlimited support for modern tools

    Where to invest icontinuous delivelegacy?

    And where to mo

    Transformation of

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    The paradigm throughout the journey has consisted ofcoherent elements

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    Simplify

    Highly

    Skilled

    Enginee

    Automate

    We call this the Power of IT

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    We are we today?

    People

    Process

    Technology

    Rehired over 500 software engineers

    Introduced standard IT engineering profile (Dreyfus)

    ING IT engineers have committed code to several open source

    All IT in The Netherlands, Wholesale Banking, Group Services a

    is organized in DevOps teams

    In other countries progress is at average on 70% Agile/Scrum

    ING NL has implemented BizDevOps (Spotify)

    2 fully productized CD pipelines (for Microsoft and Linux)

    Cloud provisioning fully automated

    IT risk processes currently being automated

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    We learned there are several levels of adopting change(the Psychology of Change)

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    You want to be compli

    You want to proof thatthis as well

    You understand the ra

    Continuously guides yand choices

    Source: Blog of Sal Freu

    Regulated through identification3.

    4. Integrated regulation

    (4 states of Organismic Integration Theory - Deci & Ryan)

    2.

    1.

    Introjected regulated behaviour

    Externally regulated behaviour

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    Everybody fights against you

    Everybody feels unhappy

    Nobody wants to admit failure

    Everybody wants fast success

    Management wants to push the standard

    So, you need to be brave

    But you need to take the first

    So, you need to declare it

    So, you need to layout the jou

    So, you need to keep the manteams to learn and experimen

    This is all cool, but where do I start the transformation

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    It is a never ending story

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    There was a beginning, but there willbe no end

    So, everybody is continuously lookingfor answers

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    Thank you!