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Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Third Quarter Earnings
July 15, 2020 — 5:00 p.m. E.T.
Length: 34 minutes
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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Fred Vandenberg Destiny Media Technologies, Inc. — Chief Executive Officer Sam Ritchie Destiny Media Technologies, Inc — Chief Financial Officer Glenn Mattern Destiny Media Technologies, Inc — Director, Business Development
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Derek Zaremba Private Investor Ben Babcock Private Investor
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PRESENTATION
Operator
Thank you for joining us on the call today. Before we begin, I’d like to announce that we will be
referring to today’s earnings release, which was sent to the newswires earlier this afternoon.
I’d also like to remind everyone that this conference call could contain forward-looking statements
about Destiny Media Technologies within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995. Such forward-looking statements are based upon current beliefs and expectations of management
and are subject to risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ materially from those
forward-looking statements. Such risks are fully discussed in the Company’s filings with the SEC and SEDAR
and the Company does not assume any obligation to update information contained in this call.
During the conference call we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. The non-GAAP
financial measures are presented in the supplemental disclosures and should not be considered in
isolation of, or as a substitute of, or superior to the financial information prepared in accordance with
GAAP and should be read in conjunction with the Company’s financial statements filed with the SEC and
SEDAR. The non-GAAP financial measures used in the Company’s presentation may differ from similarly-
titled measures presented by other companies. A reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to
the most comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the earnings press release.
With that, I would like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Fred Vandenberg, Chief Executive
Officer. Please go ahead, sir.
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
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Thanks, Sylvie. Hi, everyone. On today’s call we will have Sam, our new CFO, to present the financial
results, then I will talk about the Play MPE platform developments and marketing efforts, and then I will
have Glenn Mattern talking about our business development activities.
Sam, just a brief intro: Sam came on board as our CFO in May. Sam originally hails from New
Zealand but has extensive experience with software companies in both Canada and the United States and
was actually our former audit manager if you go back a few years.
Glenn is our Director of Business Development. They both started in late April. This is the first time
the Company has had a leader in that department. Glenn has had a very successful career, a successful
25-year career and is a founding partner of one of Western Canada’s most successful and highest volume
printers, McCallum Printing Group. I think Glenn brings great energy and will be, well, already has
demonstrated an ability to build relationships with our customers, collaborate internally, and coordinate
with business development staff.
I will pass it over to Sam now to discuss the financial results.
Sam Ritchie — Chief Financial Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Thanks, Fred.
Overall, Play MPE revenue for the quarter was down by approximately 2%. Adjustments in pricing
to a longstanding customer agreement and negative impacts of foreign exchange resulted in a small
decline to revenue. Adjustments to pricing in this agreement is designed to facilitate long-term growth
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and usage of the Play MPE platform and underused market segments. This was offset by continued growth
in usage by independent music labels.
Play MPE shows growth in USA independent label use, increasing to approximately $361,000 from
$273,000 in the immediately preceding quarter and 6.6% above the same quarter in fiscal 2019. Year to
date to May 31, 2020, USA independent revenue has increased to approximately $997,000 from $933,000
in the same period in 2019, growth of 6.8%. Global independent revenue for the quarter increased by
approximately $40,000 from $381,000 from the same period in 2019 to $421,000 in 2020, an increase of
10.4%. Year-to-date global independent revenue increased by $75,000 to $1.151 million from $1.076
million, or 7%.
EBITDA for the quarter ended May 31, 2020 was approximately $98,100. EBITDA for the nine-
month period ended May 31, 2020 was $126,400. As I am sure you have noticed, our accounts receivable
temporarily jumped to $748,000. This increase was caused from COVID-related operational changes with
our customers, as a number of our customers switched from check and other manual payment methods
to electronic transfers. But by July 8, 2020 we had collected over 610,000 or 82% of the amount
outstanding at May 31.
Overall expenditures increased by 19.7% for the nine-month period to May 31, 2020. $190,000 or
8.9% of that is caused by one-time restructuring costs with $232,000 or 10.8% from increased investment
in our technology and business development.
I will now turn it back over to Fred.
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Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Thanks, Sam.
We continue to invest in our technology stack. Very generally, this is taking a step back and seeing
the forest rather than the trees and is a holistic review of our architecture and an update to our
programming languages. These efforts are largely done behind the scenes and in conjunction with other
improvements and additions. It’s really only worth mentioning because we think that these investments
will increase the cadence of product additions.
At the beginning of the year we hired a new Director of Engineering. Sergei is now had sufficient
time to review our needs and the team and we are addressing identified improvements to increase the
cadence of software additions. Ultimately, added functionality, services that competing services,
competing platforms do not offer, and a superior user experience will complement business development
activities.
Supporting our Latin music initiatives, we established our Mexican distribution list. This follows the
completion of the US Latin lists in Q2, and we translated our Play MPE product page into Spanish. This also
follows on the translation of our release creator into several new languages, including Spanish. We are
preparing for the needs to the Latin music market, which we believe is a very large and relatively untapped
market.
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We also launched the left-side navigation version of Caster, our release creation software. This is
a more current standard of presentation with software but also allows for us to add functionality to the
menu to future versions, some of which will attract new service revenue.
In the past quarter we established our Instagram Live and panel series. This marketing initiative
has a few benefits. They raise the Play MPE profile, educate our clients, and engage our clients in a
collaborative endeavour with Play MPE. These videos are now available through our Play MPE website
and on our YouTube channel.
We have received engagement from numerous stakeholders, media, press, record labels,
promoters, and on every continent, with the exception of Antarctica of course. It’s difficult to know the
long-term benefits of this endeavour, but it’s our intention to be viewed as a thought leader in this space
and I think our reputation is of that, but we are intending to expand on that and to help shape how music
promotion is done.
Also during the quarter we established our beta testing program. Internally, we completed the
testing of an alpha version of a new release, a new version of Caster. This update is designed to be a bit
easier and intuitive, but also prepares us for the free trial version and a self checkout functionality of Play
MPE. This will allow us to scale and allow many more users in more markets. This version also adds
functionality that will improve lead conversion.
For the sake of clarity, we have additional items to build before the self checkout is complete, but
in releasing this version we began sourcing volunteers from our higher volume users around the world to
test the beta version. We received invaluable feedback. This has a few benefits. First, it identifies more
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edge cases that we may have missed in testing, it enhances product loyalty, and we think it engenders a
sense of ownership with our clients, but it also helps us build the software that really meets the needs of
our clients. This has been very successful and we’ll be launching the new version in Q4.
One question I received during the day, well, it was more of a comment I guess, was a sense of
surprise that I had made a large insider purchase during the quarter when we had a relatively flat quarter
from revenue. And so it’s a little bit difficult to address that, but while our sales cycle is a relatively long
one, I think we’ve really made some great progress during the year. We have really improved the platform.
We are improving the engineering team significantly. Earlier in the year we replaced our director of
engineering, replaced our marketing manager, and replaced our product manager. And our director of
product management has a year under her belt. I was talking with Glenn this morning and I think in each
of these replacements we are much stronger and with him coming on board we are much stronger than
having nobody in that position.
Sorry, joking aside, I’m really happy with the progress we have made in the business development
group in a very short period of time that Glenn has been with us. This is the first time we, again, I said it
before, but this is the first time we’ve had a leader in that department. I think we’ve completed the circle
of our management group internally and I think we have a very strong team now and I’m very happy about
that. But ultimately it’s the reception that we’ve seen from our newer platform users. Our strategy is to
get more and more use and then, when the volume of use is at a sufficient level, we will start charging,
and I think we’ll see the results of that very shortly.
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One last comment before I turn it over to Glenn. On our investor website you can sign up for
investor e-mails. Those of you who want a bit more information can also sign up to marketing and business
development announcements. That’s on the same investor page. This will give you greater feedback on
what we’re doing on a day-to-day basis.
With that, I’ll turn it over to Glenn.
Glenn Mattern — Director, Business Development, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Thank you, Fred. I appreciate the intro.
It’s been a busy few months getting up to speed, mid-pandemic I might add, but it’s a fantastic
group and I’m excited and optimistic about the road ahead. I’ve had an opportunity to review the job
performance of my new team and, as you know from our Q2 call, there were some business development
staff changes prior to my arrival. Since then we’ve pared down one additional employee, added additional
inside sales staff, and adjusted some roles. We were building a team carefully and strategically and I expect
another US hire in Q4 and we’re focused on ensuring our staff are well trained and coordinated with the
other teams.
The pandemic restrictions have altered the way we interact with many of our customers. In-person
meetings are on hold and traditional networking strategies such as trade shows are cancelled. Since
customer engagement is now virtual, it’s a shift in how we’re all doing business. Yet, our lead flow was up
4.2% for the quarter over Q3 of 2019 and up 10.98%, to be exact, year over year.
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Since artists can’t tour, live shows are on hold. It seems artists are keen to produce and promote
more content. Our releases are up 8.17% for the quarter over Q3 of 2019 and 4.2% year over year. And
releases from indie artists and labels are up 8.8% over the same three quarters last year. So I give, well,
distributions are up as well, 13.34% year over year. So I give kudos to our hardworking team in staying
connected with all our customers.
We’re actively improving our reseller engagement and new agreements in various territories, such
as the Nordics, Australia, and South Africa. As Fred mentioned as well, we’re working with our marketing
team on several initiatives to continue a healthy lead flow, Instagram Live events, panel discussions, and
interviews. We’re really excited about our new release creator. It’s a few weeks away from full release
and it’s a great opportunity for us to increase engagement with many of our customers and we’ll have a
large marketing push.
Much of our focus in Q3 was ensuring our existing clientele was engaged with our platform as we
adjusted to the pandemic restrictions and I’ve enjoyed meeting virtually, in air quotes, all of our major
customers around the globe, along with many new customers and potential partners.
As you know, there are essentially two sides to our platform, the caster and the player. Our caster
side includes our paying customers, such as independent artists, promoters, and labels, and we continue
to have very active engagement from UMG with distributions up 23.8% year over year. We continue to
expand engagement from major US sub-labels and formats, which we have not historically been as strong
with, and we have seen some success in that endeavour. We have also renegotiated pricing structures
and one- and two-year commitments with several other major sub-labels and independent labels.
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Part of our growth strategy is to offer free trial periods to potential customers to increase comfort
and reliance in our system. Clearly, free trials can’t go on forever and I’m working with our team to
establish timeframes and strategies to convert these to paying accounts. We’ve also updated our price list
to ensure we’re consistent and current across all territories. We’re also exploring an entirely new
simplified pricing structure. That’s under careful review and something we’ll look at in Q2 or Q3 of next
fiscal.
On the player side, our recipients, we’ve increased our regular outreach to radio and a variety of
other influencers. We worked hard to maintain and strengthen these critical relationships. We continue
to be the go-to platform in many global territories and genres and I tip my hat to the business development
team who have helped ingrain our system so well in these territories. The strategy of simultaneous
promotion and adoption within the Play MPE platform of both content from senders and usage from
recipients has proven effective and we’re refining the strategy of leveraging our current global label
partnership agreements with limited free trials in new territories.
As discussed on previous calls, we have a couple of bigger initiatives in the works. Our Canadian
initiative was launched January 24, 2020. In under six months, we’ve established ourselves as a primary
source for content in Canada. We’re the preferred service for largest broadcasting networks in the
country, including Bell, Rogers, Corus, Stingray, and Pattison. And UMG is now hosting albums with Play
MPE exclusively.
Our trial usage is growing considerably and we are now hosting deliveries on all new content for
Sony as well, as well as content from a variety of major independents in Canada such as eOne, Arts &
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Crafts, and BMG. The feedback on trials has been overwhelmingly positive from both the recipient and
the label side and we are very optimistic that we’ll see a considerable displacement from other services
to our platform in the coming months. We expect to be converting these trials to revenue in the fall of
this year.
Our second major initiative is the Latin American market. As Fred mentioned, we’ve launched our
US and Mexican Latin lists and we’re building our foundation in the US by leveraging our UMG agreement
and content. We are beginning to host content on a trial basis from several major independents, such as
Azteca, Dell Records, Empire, and BMG. And once the flow of content and recipient usage is strong, we
will convert these users to usage or contract-based revenue, depending on the volume and the type of
content. We’ll then continue to push south into Mexico, Central and South America, as well as Spain.
In addition, we’re actively building strategies for new (inaudible) and formats which lack cohesive
promo distribution channels. We’re listening carefully to feedback from our customers and actively
strategizing for other products and features and verticals. All of these initiatives are focused on increasing
current revenue and looking to the future. As we continue to gain momentum and expand our global
reach, revenues will snowball.
Thanks and I’ll turn it back over to you, Fred.
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Well, I think that’s what we have so far. So, if there are any questions, you can dial in.
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Q & A
Operator
Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question, please press star followed by one
on your touchtone phone. You will hear a three-tone prompt acknowledging your request. And should
you wish withdraw your question, simply press star followed by two. We ask that, if you’re using a
speakerphone, to please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Thank you. Your first question will be
from Derek Zaremba. Please go ahead.
Derek Zaremba — Private Investor
Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. So, I have a few questions. My first question, I guess with the
development of more features, I understand, I guess, for usage-based models you either offer a free trial
or potentially charge for them. For the fixed-price agreements, is the idea to have better renegotiations
when it comes time for renewals or is it new contracts? How does the revenue get captured, I guess, in
that part of the business?
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Well, that’s a good question. There’s a combination of answers to that. We think that fixed-fee
agreements, there’s a few right now and I think ultimately we’re going to try to move to a more of a fixed-
fee agreement to increase usage. But in doing so we will leverage new features to either increase use and
use that increased use to negotiate a better fee or have those new features toggle on and off for additional
fees. That picture will become a bit clearer as we move further down the product roadmap.
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Derek Zaremba — Private Investor
So I guess, if I remember correctly, like for UMG for example, it was like a two- or a three-year
contract. So potentially it will be maybe a bit lagged but it’s something that’s eventually expecting to be
captured?
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Exactly. Yeah. With UMG they have, I mean Play MPE is, they’ve said to us, is the most widely
dispersed piece of software that they have, but we do know that certain departments use different things
and we’re conducting a review with them right now, but we think that we will be able to expand into
different departments and then leverage that into, you know, hopefully increased fees or at least an
increased presence, which we will leverage into that sort of anchor tenant and then sell to more users.
Derek Zaremba — Private Investor
Okay. And I guess on that note then, do you think the best opportunity with these new features,
at least in the short term I guess, it’s going to be more from usage-based agreements like independents
whereas if you’re focusing on a larger client like UMG, who you’re trying to renegotiate based on use, like
it might not directly translate, increased use might not translate dollar for dollar for increased dollars later
on, there might be some negotiation to do with it, but for independents or usage based, I guess, there
might be more of a one-to-one correlation.
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
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I think that’s a fair comment. Yeah.
Derek Zaremba — Private Investor
Okay. All right. I have two other questions. So the other one was, I guess based on, ah, just to kind
of understand the scaling of the business from here, how much incremental expenses are you expecting
with incremental revenues from the new features? Or at what point do you need to start adding new staff
to support increased revenues?
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Well, I think, as in the shorter term, as we grow revenue, we certainly will have a greater cash flow
to invest, to reinvest in the product, but ultimately our strategy is to be a software-as-a-service to sort of
leverage our own clients’ scalability to increase use rather than having a larger growth in staff. You know,
with growing usage you’ll have worldwide usage, you’ll have potentially reseller agreements or added
tech support and sort of minor costs like bandwidth and that sort of thing, language translations, more
language translations, but ultimately we plan to leverage like a trial or self checkout feature that really is
almost a hands-off type sale.
Derek Zaremba — Private Investor
Okay. All right. And then just my last question, in terms of the legal proceedings with the prior CEO,
if there was any updates or if there’s like an estimated kind of resolution date or anything like that.
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Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Well, we were supposed to go to trial in April, but because of COVID that got delayed. I don’t know
exactly when it’s going to be rescheduled for, but we remained very confident with it. I would like to put
it to rest but, at the same time, it’s not a big concern for us.
Derek Zaremba — Private Investor
Okay. All right. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you do have any questions, please press star
followed by one on your touchtone phone.
And your next question will be from Ben Babcock. Please go ahead.
Ben Babcock — Private Investor
Hey, Fred. How is it going?
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Not too bad.
Ben Babcock — Private Investor
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Thank you for the detailed update. I appreciate it. And thank you for answering my comments.
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
I tried to answer a few of them, anyway.
Ben Babcock — Private Investor
No, no, thank you. Question: I know that you have—thank you for the detail regarding the
restructuring costs. I know you mentioned in the press release that there was the renegotiation with one
customer that brought revenue down a bit this quarter. If it wasn’t for, like can you comment on the
impact of that? Like was that a $50,000? $100,000? Like how much of an impact was that on the quarter?
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Well, we had a small decline and if we didn’t have that we would probably have a small increase.
It’s not, ah, I guess I would have to say it would have toggled us into growth but it wasn’t a huge impact
to the Company generally. It was just, it’s worthy of mentioning because we are re-pricing that agreement.
Ben Babcock — Private Investor
Understood. And I know that you did the buyback program, which I thought was very smart. Do
you plan on reinitiating that once you’re able to once the new fiscal year starts?
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
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We’re just going through our business plan for 2021. I mean we obviously have a longer product
roadmap and that sort of thing that’s already in place, but we’ll do a bit of a review of that during July we
think. That might spill over into August. But I’ll circle back with the directors later in the month and we’ll
announce any decisions with respect to that decision.
Ben Babcock — Private Investor
Great, thanks. And with respect—it seems like you guys are making great progress in Canada and
as well as the Latin American market as you outlined. What would you attribute that success to, if you had
to like break it down to one or two things?
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
One or two things? Probably our relationship with Universal is one of them. I would say a vastly
superior system is another. Displacing a system or a method of how an industry does business is a
challenge, just because of the network of use. I mean it’s good for us in some ways but, you know, when
we try to expand into a market that has an entrenched competitor that’s been here for more than a
decade, it can be a challenge.
But we are vastly superior on both sides of the platform. I mean I could list the advantage. And
Glenn talked about that both recipients and customers, clients, senders of content, had very rave reviews
of the system. That can’t be understated. They love the platform and see so many advantages. It’s faster,
it’s easy to use, the sound quality, all sorts of things are beneficial, but then you still have to displace an
existing network of use. And we are doing that. We’re growing use with UMG, obviously. They started
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doing that in January. We added Sony and now, ah, we’ve added some major independents to the use
during the quarter.
Ben Babcock — Private Investor
And it sounds like a lot of the new ones you listed, they’re still in the trial period. Am I
understanding that correctly?
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Yeah. For the most part, yes, that’s true. There’s some weird, ah, I don’t know how to say this, but
what you do find is a lot of labels overlap between Canadian and Latin coverages, like the people that are
doing promo are doing promo in Canada and Latin areas, and that’s a surprising combination, I would say.
But it also helps. You get that client that loves the system because we’re testing it out in Canada and then
they are starting to distribute it in the US to Latin radio stations as well. But for the most part they’re on
trial. So you do get distributions to areas where we’re not in a trial phase, so you do see a little bit of
increase and that’s where you see growth, part of where you see the growth in indies in the US.
Ben Babcock — Private Investor
Great. Thanks for the comments I appreciate it. That’s all the questions I have.
Operator
Thank you. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you do have any questions, please
press star followed by one on your touchtone phone.
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And next we have a follow up from Derek Zaremba. Please go ahead.
Derek Zaremba — Private Investor
Thank you. Just one other question, I guess, because I’m not super familiar with the space, and I
don’t know how far back this goes, but I guess the industry has become increasingly digitized. How has
that kind of played out in terms of Play MPE’s offering or what kind of changes have happened or are
happening? I don’t know if there’s some general industry commentary you could share.
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
It’s kind of a broad question. I think the industry is evolving in a number of ways. How streaming
services are becoming very popular but, you know, whether that’s streaming from a terrestrial radio
station or a streaming services like that you think of as Spotify. Royalty reporting is evolving. You get really
interesting and exciting opportunities for us to monitor how a song does digitally around the world. So
you really get a more data-driven decision-making process when it comes to music promotion.
So, if you see a song is getting traction in a particular area, you have the artist tour in that area or
capitalize on that in different ways and you adjust your marketing dollars to go into that area. But that
requires a synthesis of that data reporting and that is, ah, it’s not a very well-developed process yet and
we hope, Play MPE hopes to be involved in that. And I think we’re on the front lines of that, especially
when you get the promo people who are making those decisions using the platform. You know, if we can
ingest more and more data reporting into our system, we can connect them to more distribution channels,
we think we can be a real big influencer in the industry. We just have to keep developing the product.
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Derek Zaremba — Private Investor
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Once more, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question, please press star followed
by one on your telephone keypad.
And at this time, Mr. Vandenberg, we have no other questions. Please proceed.
Fred Vandenberg — Chief Executive Officer, Destiny Media Technologies, Inc.
Okay. Thanks for joining the call, everyone. I see quite a number of people this time. If you have
any questions, you can always e-mail us directly or, again, if you want more information you can sign up
for our marketing announcements. It’s right on our investor webpage. Feel free to do that. You might get
more information than you want, but you can always sign out of that as well. Okay. Thanks again.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does indeed conclude your conference call for today. Once
again, thank you for attending and at this time we do ask that you please disconnect your lines.