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Chat History with Skype Conference (#douglas_deluxe/$90296361692a34b0)
Created on 2011-02-01 22:24:28.
2011-02-01
doug: 20:27:08
guy from do:Tank talking about how they do DIY stuff in public space
doug: 20:27:11
urban improvement
doug: 20:27:36
dotankbrooklyn.org
doug: 20:29:09
spaceship --- you get that? 1st/3rd world collab!
Kerem Halbrecht: 20:29:38
Totally they did it here already
doug: 20:32:27
paper tiger talking now
doug: 20:32:34
video collective
doug: 20:32:36
based in nyc
doug: 20:33:04
a non hierarchical consus based organization
Kerem Halbrecht: 20:33:28
Are they in the peace pentagon?
doug: 20:33:45
i'll ask ... hang on
doug: 20:34:25
paper tiger is situated against corporate media
doug: 20:34:38
that critiques the media
doug: 20:34:50
yes
doug: 20:34:54
they're in it.
Kerem Halbrecht: 20:34:57
Cool
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doug: 20:51:22
and organize lectures about weather
doug: 20:51:47
recently organized a talk about a storm chaser
sdiianni: 20:52:15
cool. website?
doug: 20:52:25
spweatherstation.net
doug: 20:52:46
jean talking about flux now
doug: 20:53:07
residency w/ 16 artists
doug: 20:53:25
(i have you guys quieted so we don't hear the typing)
doug: 20:54:01
flux is super prolific, lots of kinds of projects
doug: 20:54:09
everything is collectively generated
doug: 20:54:34
super diverse projects
doug: 20:54:46
we also throw parties
doug: 20:54:50
like meow wolf
sdiianni: 20:54:57
: )
doug: 20:55:04
planning happens aroudn kitchen table
Kerem Halbrecht: 20:55:06
we have parties also
Kerem Halbrecht: 20:55:13
!
Kerem Halbrecht: 20:55:31
mewo
doug: 20:56:07
jason now talking about "wunderland"
doug: 20:56:21
10 year collective
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doug: 20:56:23
just evicted
doug: 20:56:27
future unclear
doug: 20:56:51
was shared space the shared vision?
doug: 20:56:54
it's unclear
doug: 20:57:27
work in public space
doug: 20:57:46
he's describing a big prank at iceskating rink
sdiianni: 21:03:06
does spaceship have a website?
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:03:28
no
doug: 21:03:29
ted just arrived from do tank
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:03:35
hi ted
doug: 21:03:42
nathalie arrived from sp weather station
doug: 21:04:20
ted's talking about what we thought the format of the congress could be
doug: 21:04:41
(can you hear christina?)
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:04:45
yes
sdiianni: 21:04:53
yes
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:05:03
we have a website for the news we produce
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:05:16
in hebrew though
doug: 21:05:18
hmmm
doug: 21:10:46
elizabeth is talking about a friend who's studying urban planning and collectives
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doug: 21:12:24
ideas about new collectives to invite:
red channels
doug: 21:12:32
study collective action
doug: 21:12:39
and do screenings, make docs, etc.
doug: 21:12:59
5 day marathon festival
doug: 21:13:21
designed with a collective curating process with films about /by collectives
doug: 21:13:40
might be retrofitted for congress
doug: 21:13:53
---- space ship
doug: 21:14:00
you video would fit well
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:14:44
its design and build
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:14:50
not just build
doug: 21:16:52
do tank knows about you guys
doug:21:17:03
they use the notion of "blitz" to transform a space
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:17:15
arcitectual terrorism
doug: 21:17:42
flaw is that it fails to transform a place longterm
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:17:57
i have something to say about that
doug: 21:18:06
ok i'll turn you updoug: 21:18:08
in moment
doug: 21:18:35
ken farmer
doug: 21:18:38
ted ulrich
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doug: 21:18:47
hello
doug: 21:28:58
(i'm not sure how to interpret this into the chat)
sdiianni: 21:29:07
it's ok. I think i'm following
sdiianni: 21:29:14
we're following
doug: 21:29:20
want to comment meow wofl?
sdiianni: 21:29:44
yes
doug: 21:29:49
ok hang on
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:30:06
the congress is about openess
doug: 21:30:08
christina is saying: if youwant to initate somthing, do it
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:30:14
we agree
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:31:40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:32:10
we think it should have a few missions
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:33:43
and also the working vacation as a guidline
sdiianni: 21:33:50
maybe missions would be good. the idea of "a broad, open invitation" seems important.
doug: 21:37:24
(can you hear kevin / justseeds?)
sdiianni: 21:37:30
yes
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:37:30
yes
doug: 21:40:57
ted says:
doug: 21:41:18
a lot of us respond to local conditions
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doug: 21:41:23
sees a tension
doug: 21:41:35
between international congress and local action
doug: 21:41:49
how does one group inform another?
doug: 21:41:50
will it work?
doug: 21:42:10
christina says it's case-by-case
doug: 21:42:29
ted says
doug: 21:42:33
the tension is compelling
doug: 21:45:19
how do we raise money ?
doug: 21:45:31
we need your help international people
doug: 21:45:36
so we can get you here
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:45:39
i think we need everybody to write: how to work and what does our work mean
doug: 21:46:30
ok.
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:46:42
i think money is secondary to planning what to do
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:47:24
we can do something for free or for 500K$, we don't know the scale, no?
doug: 21:47:25
ted says we should document these moments
doug: 21:48:09
would just seeds be inerested in using it mechanism to raise money?
doug: 21:48:16
kevin says maybe
sdiianni: 21:48:21
cool idea
doug: 21:48:35
paper tiger could make a video to advertise
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doug: 21:49:41
paper tiger could make
doug: 21:49:50
video profiles of each collective
doug: 21:49:55
to help represent who's involved
doug: 21:50:30
would work well for international groups
doug: 21:51:08
(conversation is slowing and somewhat fragmented)
doug: 21:51:26
(discussing way so to try to engage groups spread out)
sdiianni: 21:51:28
we like the idea of continuing via email etc.
doug: 21:51:33
great.
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:51:38
us too
doug: 21:51:41
ok
sdiianni: 21:51:43
this has given lots of good ideas
doug: 21:51:45
we'll aslo
doug: 21:51:46
good!
doug: 21:51:53
we'll also get the websute up asap
doug: 21:52:07
which will allow for both public and private discussion
Kerem Halbrecht: 21:52:24
sounds great
sdiianni: 21:52:27
cool.
doug: 21:52:30
yes!
sdiianni: 21:52:38
Thanks for having us!
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Kerem Halbrecht: 21:53:56
we also are signing off
doug: 22:04:10
challenge format of pane;
doug: 22:04:13
panel
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