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Combustion Products Spillage from Gas Water Heaters Monitoring Results Dan Cautley Seventhwave MN Energy Design Conference, Duluth Feb, 2016

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Combustion Products Spillage from

Gas Water Heaters Monitoring Results

Dan Cautley Seventhwave

MN Energy Design Conference, Duluth Feb, 2016

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Our Field Study

•  11 homes, MN and WI •  Atmospheric draft natural gas water heaters in

basements • Measured or observed

• Burner operation (via temperature) • CO2 near draft hood (as indicator of spillage) • Pressures and fan status • Etc

• Data collection for 3 to 6+ months, 1500 days of data •  Part of overall project including testing each home,

and a survey

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Monitoring setup CO2 near vent used to identify spillage

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Spillage by minute of operation, by site

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Whatcausedthis?

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Two sites showed excessive spilling; both had venting defects

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• MN_04 had an undersized water

heater vent (vent capacity = 75% of burner input)

• WI_01 had a large opening downstream of the water heater (unused, partially repaired connection for a furnace)

3”vent,6’run,4elbows

Waterheaterandunusedfurnacevent

Images courtesy CEE

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Effect of first minute of operation and outdoor temperature

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Logistic regression: Effect of first minute, outdoor temp, & zone pressure

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Site 1st minute of operation (binary)

Outdoor temperature (F) Combustion zone depressurization relative to outside (Pa)§

MN 01 1,005.01 *** 1.10 *** 1.46 ***

MN 02 213.78 *** 1.23 *** 4.29 ***

MN 03 171.39 *** 1.07 *** 1.65 ***

MN 04 0.65 * 1.10 *** 1.21 *

MN 05 15.61 *** 1.06 *** 2.36 ***

MN 06 3.69 *** 1.10 *** 1.39 ***

MN 07 31.48 *** 1.03 2.32 ***

MN 08 244.16 *** 1.27 *** NA†

MN 09 13.81 *** 1.09 * 2.79 ***

MN 10 396.99 *** 1.13 ** 2.74 ***

WI 01 NA‡ 1.13 *** 1.07 *

Remember, most absolute values quite small!

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Logistic regression: Odds ratios for individual fans, air handlers, & doors

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Site Dryer Kitchenfan Bathfan1 Bathfan2 Airhandler Door MN01 3.17 *** 2.91 *** ND ND ND NV MN02 15.03 *** ND 1.78 19.17 *** 1.93 NV MN03 3.28 ** 27.07 *** 2.40 *** 0.76 2.37 ** NV MN04 1.90 AS ND ND ND NV MN05 2.18 ** NS NV ND 1.04 1.95 MN06 NS NV 2.75 ** ND 1.79 ND MN07 NS 13.10 *** NS ND 16.09 ** NV MN08 NV NV ND ND NV NV MN09 4.21 NS NS ND 9.E+04 *** 0.06 ** MN10 ND ND 0.55 ND NS NV WI01 1.73 ND NV ND 0.91 1.05

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Downdrafting – vents goin’ crazy

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Site Numberofepisodes

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Downdrafting behavior

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Contributors to downdraft formation

• Similar to spillage in general (zone depressurization, individual fan operation, higher outdoor temperature all appear to contribute)

• NOT clear when and why it becomes stable at some times, not others

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Conclusions

•  Typical, normal systems don’t spill excessively, and don’t produce much carbon monoxide

•  Vent defects are an important cause, perhaps the largest cause, of excessive spillage. Vent inspection is critically important in evaluating safe operation.

•  Testing in current form may not tell us much about the propensity of water heaters to spill beyond the first minute

• Downdraft formation remains somewhat mysterious, is not predicted by testing, and needs more work

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