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COLLECTIVSM
Collectivism describes any outlook or philosophy that stresses the interactivity between people. It is
often considered the opposite of individualism, though both can be important within a single outlook.
In a collective philosophy, the group or society is seen as having precedence over the individual.
There are two basic types of collectivism: horizontal and vertical. In the horizontal type, members of
the collective are considered to be as equal as possible, sharing resources and responsibilities. The
vertical variety includes a social hierarchy that society members work to maintain, and people submit
to those above them in the hierarchy.
Collectivism is perhaps best known as one of the philosophies behind socialism. Communist and
fascist societies have been described as collectivist, or more specifically as vertical forms. Early
collectivist political thought, exemplified by Jean-Jacques Rousseaus 1762Social Contract, was
more horizontal or democratic in nature. Rousseau's work eventually inspired both communism and
democracy.
While the writings of Rousseau and Marx, along with most socialist and democratic communities in
practice, rely on the government to represent the will of the people, this is not a necessary
component of a collectivist system. For example, collectivist anarchism calls for no government or
private property ownership, but rather small communes that own property together. Small horizontalcollectivist communities likewise may not have any leader or centralized authority. An example of
such a community is the Israeli kibbutzim, small farming communities in which people voluntarily
share all labor and property.
Its Collectivism vs. Individualism
Copyright 2010 By Ray Thomas
People think the basic conflict today is between liberals and conservatives. Its not.Its between believers in collectivism and those who believe in individualism. They
think that it is the difference between simply their own definitionof compassion and
mean-spiritedness. It isnt that. atall. Its the difference betweencollectivism and
individualism.
Collectivism is really pretty simple, no matter how much collectivists want to
complicate it so you will not understand what theyre trying to put over on you. It is
defined thusly by one of the best known collectivists, Karl Marx, author of
communism, in his tome, the Communist Manifesto:From each according to
his ability, and to each according to his need. Meaning it is okay to :take from onewho earnedit and give that taken to those who did not. This gave permission for
government to steal from one and give to another to gain power over both.
They want you to think the fight is between right and left. It is not. Thereal fight is,
while it is still between right and left, on the left, counter to common belief, is always
a despotic government, in complete control of its populace while on the right, contrary
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to what they want you to think, is notfascism or Nazism, but complete freedom,
which is sometimes called anarchism.
Neither is something we want to have, for different reasons. We need to be
somewhere in the middle, with just enough government to keep us from each others
throats, but only that much.
It has always been thus: remember back when every country was ruled by a king or
queen, who had a bunch of lesser officials called many things such as barons and
such? The king or queen was a liberal who thought he/she was better, smarter than thecommoner. The barons and such, too. They lived off the work and sweat of the
commoner. They thought they had the divine right of kings to do that. They
didnt. Robin Hood has always gotten a bad rap, being pictured as stealing from
the rich and giving to the poor. Not true, as is so with most of the changed history
that has been written by those rulers. What he did was take back what was stolen by
the king in the form of excessive taxes and give thatto its rightful owners, thecommoners.
Crisis Government
One of the most oft used methods, used to this day by those who would run your lives
is taking advantage of any crisis that comes along, and if one doesnt come
along, creatingone. Have you ever wondered why it seems like there is a new crisis
announced just about every day? President Obamas chief of staff, Rahm Emmanuel,is famously quoted as saying, Never let a good crisis go to waste. Thats because to
cure a crisis, those who wish to control you can get laws passed that they could nothave hoped to pass without that crisis.
Massive Conspiracy
Some thinkthere is some kind of a massive conspiracy to control the world, run by
the international bankers. Theyre wrong. But there are conspiracies, and that is one of
them. A single conspiracy would soon collapse under the weight of individual
egos.Many conspiracies based on aphilosophydo not. Most of todays conspiracies
are based on the philosophy ofcollectivism. Which is the reason why they looklike a
single conspiracy to many. But it doesnt matter who is right. The answeris investigation and exposure.These conspiracies cant stand the light of day.
Totalitarianism
Under whatever name it uses, altruism (which is collectivism, socialism, communism,
liberalism, progressivism, fascism, etc., it requires totalitarian government, to ensure
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everybodys rights are subordinate to that of the state. It amazed me how many peopledont even know what collectivism is. My ownsisterdidnt know until I explained it
to her.
Anarchy Cant Work
No more than can collectivism. Ayn Rand, author of that prophetic work, Atlas
Shrugged, said this about anarchy:Anarchy, as a political concept, is a nave
floating abstraction: . . .a society without an organized government would be at the
mercy of the first criminal who came along and would precipitate it into the chaos of
gang warfare. It is the need forobjective laws and for an arbiter of honest
disagreements among men that necessitates the establishment of government.
No More Than That
We need no more government than it takes to do that job. It has been said in Congressthat there is nothing in the Constitution that says the government can take money and
property from one person and give it to another, no matter how much he/sheneeds it.
They want to make all your decisions for you. You should always be able to think for
yourself. They dont think youre smart enough Dont let them fool you! It isnt
logical. Use your own logic to rejecttheir ideas.
No Logic, No Absolutes
Liberals (subjectivist collectivists) say there is no logic and no absolutes. They hope
to prove that by making a logical statement of an absolute, which serves to illustratetheir ignorance. Thats what Is love about debating liberals. Their sublime ignorance
that causes them to have to use something they deny exists to illustrate their erroneous
points.
COLLECTIVISMvs.
INDIVIDUALISM
COLLECTIVISM
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INDIVIDUALISM
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"COLLECTIVISM: Collectivism is
defined as the theory and practice that
makes some sort of group rather than theindividual the fundamental unit of
political, social, and economic concern.In theory, collectivists insist that the
claims of groups, associations, or the
state must normally supersede the claimsof individuals." -- Stephen Grabill and
Gregory M. A. Gronbacher,HERE
"collectivism ... treats society as if itwere a super-organism existing over and
above its individual members, andwhich takes the collective in some form(e.g., tribe, race, or state) to be the
primary unit of reality and standard of
value." -- Prof. Fred D. MillerHERE
"Collectivism means the subjugation of
the individual to a group -- whether to a
race, class or state does not matter.Collectivism holds that man must be
chained to collective action and
collective thought for the sake of what iscalled 'the common good'." -- Ayn
Rand,HERE
"Collectivism is a form of
anthropomorphism. It attempts to see a
group of individuals as having a singleidentity similar to a person. ...
Collectivism demands that the group be
more important than the individual. It
requires the individual to sacrifice
himself for the alleged good of thegroup." -- Jeff Landauer and Joseph
RowlandsHERE
"Collectivism requires self-sacrifice, the
subordination of one's interests to those
"Individualism is at once an ethical-psychological concept and an ethical-political
one. As an ethical-psychological concept,
individualism holds that a human being shouldthink and judge independently, respecting
nothing more than the sovereignty of his or her
mind; thus, it is intimately connected with the
concept of autonomy. As an ethical-politicalconcept, individualism upholds the supremacy
ofindividual rights..." -- Nathaniel
BrandenHERE
"INDIVIDUALISM: The term 'individualism'
has a great variety of meanings in social and
political philosophy. There are at least threetypes that can be distinguished: (1) ontological
individualism, (2) methodological
individualism, and (3) moral or politicalindividualism. Ontological individualism is the
doctrine that social reality consists, ultimately,
only of persons who choose and act.Collectives, such as a social class, state, or a
group, cannot act so they are not considered to
have a reality independent of the actions of
persons. Methodological individualists hold that
the only genuinely scientific propositions insocial science are those that can be reduced to
the actions, dispositions, and decisions ofindividuals. Political or moral individualism is
the theory that individuals should be left, as far
as possible, to determine their own futures ineconomic and moral matters. Key thinkers
include Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek,
Milton Friedman, Robert Nozick, John Locke,
and Herbert Spencer." -- Stephen Grabill andGregory M. A. GronbacherHERE
"The foundation of individualism lies in
one's moral right to pursue one's ownhappiness. This pursuit requires a large amount
of independence, initiative, and self-
responsibility."But true individualism entails cooperating
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of others." -- Ayn Rand,Letters of Ayn
Rand
"Collectivism, unlike individualism,holds the group as the primary, and the
standard of moral value." -- Mark DaCunhaHERE
"G. W. F. Hegel (1770-1831), and Karl
Marx (1818-83) ... both viewed political
phenomena as the inevitable result ofhistorical processes, and regarded
collectives as of greater reality and valuethan their individual members." -- Prof.
Fred D. MillerHERE
"collectivist ethical principle: man is not
an end to himself, but is only a tool to
serve the ends of others. Whether those'others' are a dictator's gang, the nation,
society, the race, (the) god(s), the
majority, the community, the tribe, etc.,is irrelevant -- the point is that man in
principle must be sacrificed to others." --
Mark Da CunhaHERE
"Collectivism is the political theory that
states that the will of the people isomnipotent, an individual must obey;
that society as a whole, not the
individual, is the unit of moral value. ...
Collectivism is the application ofthealtruist ethicsto politics." -- Dr. Andrew
Bernstein,HERE
"The antipode of individualism is
collectivism, which subordinates theindividual to the group -- be it the
'community,' the tribe, the race, theproletariat, etc. A person's moral worth
is judged by how much he sacrifices
himself to the group. [Under
with others through trade, which facilitates thepursuit of each party's happiness, and which is
carried out not just on the level of goods but onthe level of knowledge and friendship. Trade is
essential for life; it provides one with many ofthe goods and values one needs. Creating anenvironment where trade flourishes is of great
importance and great interest for the
individualist.
"Politically, true individualism meansrecognizing that one has a right to his own life
and happiness. But it also means uniting with
other citizens to preserve and defend the
institutions that protect that right." -- Shawn E.KleinHERE
"Individualism regards man -- every man -- as
an independent, sovereign entity who possesses
an inalienable right to his own life, a rightderived from his nature as a rational being.
Individualism holds that a civilized society, or
any form of association, cooperation or
peaceful co-existence among men, can beachieved only on the basis of the recognition
ofindividual rights-- and that a group, as such,
has no rights other than the individual rights of
its members." -- Ayn RandHERE
"Individual rights are the means ofsubordinating society to moral law." -- Ayn
Rand
"Individual rights are not subject to apublic vote; a majority has no right to voteaway the rights of a minority; the politicalfunction of rights is precisely to protectminorities from oppression by majorities
(and the smallest minority on earth is theindividual)."--Ayn Rand
Relevant Comments
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collectivism] the more emergencies (and
victims) the better, because they provide
more opportunity for 'virtue'." --Glenn
Woiceshyn
"Collectivism is the doctrine that thesocial collective -- calledsociety, the
people, the state, etc. -- has rights,
needs, or moral authority above andapart from the individuals who comprise
it. We hear this idea continually
championed in such familiar platitudes
as 'the needs of the people takeprecedence over the rights of the
individual,' 'production for people, notprofits,' and 'the common good.'
"Collectivism often sounds humane
because it stresses the importance of
human needs. In reality, it is little more
than a rationalization for sacrificing youand me to the desires of others." -- Jarret
B. Wollstein in The Causes of
Aggression,HERE
"Don't forget that pure democracy is a
form of collectivism -- it readilysacrifices individual rights to majority
wishes. Since it involves no
constitutional bill of rights, or at least,
no working and effective one, themajority-of-the-moment can and does
vote away the rights of the minority-of-
the-moment, even of a singleindividual. This has been called'mobrule,' the 'tyranny of the majority'and
many other pejorative names. It is one
of the greatest threats to liberty, thereason why America'sfounding fathers
wroteso much so disparagingly of pure
democracy." -- Bert Rand
"A social system is a code of laws
right to pursue ones happiness is unabashedlyindividualistic, without in the slightest denying
at the same time our thoroughly social nature.
Its only that our social relations, while vital to
us all, must bechosen - that is what makes thecrucial difference." -- Prof. Tibor R.Machan,HEREandHERE
"...individualism is not antithetical tocommunity. Rather, it can involve free
association and a belief in an over-arching
harmony of interests. In a free socety,
individuals join with others because of love andmutual benefit, not because they are
programmed or coerced." --Prof. Clifford Thies
"One byproduct of individualism is
benevolence -- a general attitude of good will
towards one's neighbors and fellow humanbeings. Benevolence is impossible in a society
where people violate each others' rights." --
Glenn Woiceshyn
"Paradoxical as it may seem, men and women
who are free to pursue individualism andmaterial wealth turn out to be the most
compassionate of all." --Financial Times,London, Nov 22, 2001
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all
men are created equal, that they are endowed bytheir Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the
pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure theserights, Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of
the governed, --That whenever any Form of
Government becomes destructive of these ends,it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish
it, and to institute new Government, laying its
foundation on such principles and organizing its
powers in such form, as to them shall seemmost likely to effect their Safety and
Happiness." -- Jefferson et al,The Declaration
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which men observe in order to live
together. Such a code must have a basic
principle, a starting point, or it cannot be
devised. The starting point is thequestion: Is the power of society limited
or unlimited?
"Individualism answers: The power ofsociety is limited by the inalienable,
individual rights of man. Society may
make only such laws as do not violatethese rights.
"Collectivism answers: The power of
society is unlimited. Society may make
any laws it wishes, and force them upon
anyone in any manner it wishes." -- AynRand, Textbook of Americanism,HERE
"Racism is the lowest, most crudely
primitive form of collectivism. It is the
notion of ascribing moral, social orpolitical significance to a man's genetic
lineage -- the notion that a man's
intellectual and characterological traits
are produced and transmitted by hisinternal body chemistry. Which means,
in practice, that a man is to be judged,not by his own character and actions, butby the characters and actions of a
collective of ancestors. [...] When men
began to be indoctrinated once morewith the notion that the individual
possesses no rights, that supremacy,
moral authority and unlimited powerbelong to the group, and that a man has
no significance outside his group -- the
inevitable consequence was that men
began to gravitate toward some group oranother, in self-protection, in
bewilderment and in subconscious
terror. The simplest collective to join,
the easiest one to identify -- particularlyfor people of limited intelligence -- the
of Independence
"The fact that most people think that ...
pursuing one's own self-interest equates to
behaving brutally or irrationally, is, as Ms.Rand noted, a 'psychological confession'
ontheir part. In fact it isagainst one's
own long-term self-interest to behave
irrationally or trample others. Such actions arethe exact opposite of selfish -- they're self-destructive." --Wayne Dunn
(Emphasis added. Criminals and other
sociopaths do not think in terms of how theiractions affect the society around them and set
bad examples for others. Nor do they
empathize with others, certainly not theirvictims. And they certainly don't feel the pride
of honest achievement or of helping to build
civilization.)
"Individualism is a concept which the advocates
of most political systems try desperately toavoid. They'd prefer that political contests,
debates and symposia were limited to
answering loaded questions such as, 'WHICH
type of powerful government should we have?',
'WHICH type of dictatorship do you tend toprefer?", 'WHAT KINDS of intrusiveness
should government engage in?' and, 'WHICH
type of control freaks are best suited to run
your life for you?'... They often get upset, even
hysterical, if you point out thatsocialism,fascism, communism and mixed-economy
welfare-states have a lot in common.1 They
carry on and on as ifnon-essentials such
as style(!) or WHAT anybody sacrificesindividual rights in the name of (the master
race, the proletariat, the society, the commongood, the majority, the country, the fatherland,
the motherland the brother-in-law-land, therevered leader or savior or god or whatever) is a
big freakin' deal, especially as only
in theirparticular fantasies do they imagineeveryone, the enforcers and even their victims,
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least demanding form of "belonging"
and of "togetherness" is: race. [...] It is
thus that the theoreticians of
collectivism, the 'humanitarian'advocates of a 'benevolent' absolute state
... led to the rebirth and the new, virulent
growth of racism in the 20th century." --Ayn Rand in "Racism",HERE
"The core of racism is the notion that the
individual is meaningless and that
membership in the collective -- the race
-- is the source of his identity and value.... The notion of 'diversity' entails
exactly the same premises as racism --that one's ideas are determined by one'srace and that the source of an
individual's identity is his ethnic
heritage." -- Peter Schwartz in "The
Racism of 'Diversity',"HERE
"Primitive communism ... once existed
among all peoples and still survives inmany uncivilized countries. All
production in this stage of society is
under the direction of chiefs or councilsof elders. No individual responsibility
exists." -- George Winder,HERE
Statism
"Collectivism holds that the individual
has no rights, that his life and work
belong to the group (to "society," to the
tribe, the state, the nation) and that the
group may sacrifice him at its own whimto its own interests. The only way to
implement a doctrine of that kind is bymeans of brute force -- and statism has
always been the poltical corollary of
acting forever polite and cooperative in thesacrifice-extracting rituals (as have many
fledgling and would-be dictators, including theincredibly bloodyPol Potat first)." --Rick
Gaber
"Freedom is an intellectual achievement which
requires disavowal of collectivism and embrace
of individualism." -- Onkar Ghate
"The right to be let alone is indeed the
beginning of all freedom." -- U.S. Supreme
Court Justice William O. Douglas
"They conferred, as againstthe Government,
the right to be let alone--the most prehensive ofrights and the right most valued by civilized
men." -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis
Brandeis (Olmstead v. U.S.)
"The right to be let alone is the underlying
principle of the Constitution's Bill of Rights." --Erwin N. Griswold
"You have to ask yourself, 'Who owns me? Do I
own myself or am I just another piece of
government property?'" -- Neal Boortz
"The crucial distinction between systems...was
no longer ideological. The main politicaldifference was between those who did, and
those who did not, believe that the citizen could
-- or should -- be the property of the state." --
Adam Michnik inLetters to a Young
Contrarianby Christopher Hitchens
"In principle, there are only two fundamental
political viewpoints. That is, twocontradictory ends of the 'political spectrum.'
Those two principles are freedom and slavery."
-- Mark Da Cunha
"There is nothing to take a man's freedom away
from him, save other men. To be free, a man
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collectivism." -- Ayn Rand,HERE
"STATISM is that particular form
ofcollectivismin which individuals areforced to be subservient to government
(as distinguished, if possible, from areligious or cult leader, roving invader
or local gangster). Anyone in
government who wants to extend hispower, or anyone else (who has political
influence) with agendas to advance,
monopolies to secure, axes to grind or
revenge to take -- can make claims thatcertain governmental actions would be
in the national, state, society orevenfamilyinterest and must 'therefore'take precedence over any individual
interests whatsoever. With this
'justification' the people in government
can proceed to enforce such claims,often enthusiastically, sometimes
brutally, but always with impunity." --
Rick Gaber
"The policy of seeking values from
human beings by means of force, whenpracticed by an individual, is called
crime. When practiced by a government,
it is called statism ..." -- Nathaniel
Branden,HERE
Relevant Comments
"Collectivism is the ancient principle of
savagery. ... Collectivism is not the
'New Order of Tomorrow.' It is theorder of a very dark yesterday." --Ayn
Rand
"Altruismdemands that an individual
serve others, but doesnt stipulate
must be free of his brothers." -- Ayn Rand
"A man's rights are not violated by a private
individual's refusal to deal with him." -- Ayn
Rand,The Virtue of Selfishness
"Collective judgment of new ideas is so often
wrong that it is arguable that progress dependson individuals being free to back their own
judgment despite collective disapproval." --
W.A. Lewis
"There is no greater stupidity or meanness than
to take uniformity for an ideal.'' -- George
Santayana,The Life of Reason
"The majority, oppressing an individual, isguilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by
acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the
foundations of society." --Thomas Jefferson to
Pierre Samuel Dupont de Nemours, 1816
"There can be no such thing, in law or in
morality, as actions forbidden to an individual,but permitted to a mob." -- Ayn Rand
"It is strangely absurd to suppose that a millionof human beings, collected together, are not
under the same moral laws which bind each of
them separately." -- Thomas Jefferson
"We hold that what one man cannot morally do,a million men cannot morally do, and
government, representing many millions of
men, cannot do." -- Auberon Herbert
"The people cannot delegate to government the
power to do anything which would be unlawfulfor them to do themselves." -- John Locke
"The policy of seeking values from human
beings by means of force, when practiced by anindividual, is called crime. When practiced by a
government, it is calledstatism..." -- Nathaniel
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whether those others should be onesfamily, or the homeless, or society as a
whole. Collectivism states that, in
politics, society comes first and theindividual must obey. Collectivism isthe application of the altruist ethics to
politics." -- Dr. AndrewBernstein,HERE [emphasis added -
ed.]
"... So here we get the two essentials of
Nazism: the rejection of reason and the
mind in favor of the worship of bruteemotion, and the elevation of the
collective over the individual. What,then, distinguishes the ideas ofthemodern intellectualsfrom the
philosophy of the Nazis? The addition of
an altruist twist. The Nazis were
certainly pro-self-sacrifice, because theyadvocated (and enforced) the sacrifice of
the individual self to the collective
aggrandizement of the race. But the
modern intellectuals declare that theyare even more altruistic because they
want to sacrifice our own race to otherraces." -- Robert Tracinski,HERE
"If men want to oppose war, it is statism
that they must oppose. So long as theyhold the tribal notion that the individual
is sacrificial fodder for the collective,
that some men have the right to ruleothers by force, and that some (any)
alleged 'good' can justify it -- there can
be no peace within a nation and no peace
among nations." -- Ayn Rand,HERE
"Among other grand achievements, F.
A. Hayek had a remarkable careerpointing out the flaws in collectivism.
One of his keenest insights was that,
BrandenHERE
"Over himself, over his own mind and body, theindividual is sovereign" -- John Stuart Mill,On
Liberty(1859), "Introductory"
"The case for a free society rests on
individualism. ... Every form of totalitarianism
has sought control over the minds ofindividuals, and has understood that it must first
undermine the individuals confidence in the
validity of his own faculties. Remember
OBriens speech to Winston Smith in
Orwells1984 ... " -- David KelleyHERE
"Whatever crushes individuality is despotism,whether it professes to be enforcing the will of
God or the injunctions of men."-- John Stuart
Mill,On Liberty
"It is embarrassing to have to remind people of
this in the United States of America. In theDeclaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson
singled out three natural rights: life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness. The last phrase,appearing instead of 'property,' has prompted
much discussion. I cannot say what Jeffersonwas thinking. But here's a plausible theory:
Property is already implicit in liberty. If you arefree, you can use your belongings as you see fit.
But by specifying the pursuit of happiness
Jefferson might have been pointing out that theblessing of liberty need not be justified through
selfless service to others. One's life and
happiness on earth are justification enough." --Sheldon Richman
"The right to the pursuit of happiness IS theright to beselfish. You'd think Americans, of
all people, would take pride in that, and in
precisely what that really means." -- Rick
Gaber
"The meaning ascribed in popular usage to the
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paradoxically, any collectivist system
necessarily depends on one individual
(or small group) to make key social and
economic decisions. In contrast, asystem based on individualism takes
advantage of the aggregate, or
'collective,' information of the wholesociety; through his actions each
participant contributes his own
particular, if incomplete, knowledgeinformation that could never be tapped
by the individual at the head of a
collectivist state." -- Sheldon
Richman,HERE
"People who are very aware that theyhave more knowledge than the average
person are often very unaware that they
do not have one-tenth of the knowledge
of all of the average persons puttogether. In this situation, for the
intelligentsia to impose their notions on
ordinary people is essentially to impose
ignorance on knowledge." -- Dr. ThomasSowell,HERE
"It is collectivism that is the unrealistic
expression of utopian belief systems. In
its worst form -- the state -- collectivism
is the institutionalized exertion ofviolence to compel living beings to
behave contrary to their natural self-
interest inclinations. So strong are themotivations for individual preferences
that the state must resort to attacks upon
the very nature of life to satisfy the
ambitions of those who see others asnothing more than resources to be
exploited for such ends." -- Butler
Shaffer,HERE
"A man's admiration for absolute
word 'selfishness' is not merely wrong: itrepresents a devastating intellectual 'package-
deal,' which is responsible, more than any othersingle factor, for the arrested moral
development of mankind." --Ayn Rand
"The right to the pursuit of happiness means
man's right to live for himself, to choose what
constitutes his own, private, personal happinessand to work for its achievement. Each
individual is the sole and final judge in this
choice. A man's happiness cannot be prescribed
to him by another man or by any number ofother men. ... These rights are the
unconditional, personal, private, individual
possession of every man, granted to him by thefact of his birth and requiring no other
sanction. Such was the conception of the
founders of our country, who placed individualrights above any and all collective claims." --
Ayn Rand
"America's abundance was not created by
public sacrifices to the common good, but by
the productive genius of free men who pursued
their own personal interests and the making of
their own private fortunes." -- Ayn Rand
"The idea that 'the public interest' supersedesprivate interests and rights can have but one
meaning: that the interests and rights of some
individuals take precedence over the interestsand rights of others." -- Ayn Rand
"America was founded on the principle of
inalienable rights, not dictated duties. The
Declaration of Independence states that every
human being has a right to life, liberty and thepursuit of happiness. It does not state that he is
born a slave to the needs of others." --Alex
Epstein
"The smallest minority on earth is the
individual. Those who deny individual rights
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government is proportionate to the
contempt he feels for those around him"-
- Alexis de Tocqueville
"Socialism collapsed because it is a
policy of unrestrained intervention. Ittries to fix what is 'wrong' with the
spontaneous, self-organizing
phenomenon called capitalism. But, ofcourse, a natural process cannot be
'fixed.' ... Socialism is an ideology.
Capitalism is a natural phenomenon." --
Michael Rothschild inBIONOMICS:
Economy as Ecosystem
"Not understanding the process ofaspontaneously-ordered economygoes
hand-in-hand with not understanding the
creation of resources and wealth." --Julian Simon
"The market is not an invention ofcapitalism. It has existed for centuries.
It is an invention of civilization." --
Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990
"The primary goal of collectivism -- of
socialism in Europe and contemporaryliberalism in America -- is to enlarge
governmental supervision of individuals'
lives. This is done in the name of
equality. People are to be conscriptedinto one large cohort, everyone equal
(although not equal in status or power to
the governing class) in their status as
wards of a self-aggrandizing
government." -- George Will,HERE
"I think a major reason
whyintellectualstend to move towards
collectivism is that the collectivist
answer is a simple one. If theres
cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --Ayn Rand
"Contrary to what leftists want us to believe,
individualism does not mean looting others tosatisfy one's desires. Nor does it mean
unconcern for others. ...Individualism, not
collectivism or altruism, is the root ofbenevolence and good will among men." --Glenn Woiceshyn,HERE
"State-mandated compassion produces, not lovefor ones fellow man, but hatred and
resentment. The breakdown of 'basic civility'
and the rise of the welfare state occur
concurrently." --Lizard
"The Nazis are well remembered for murderingwell over 11 million people in the
implementation of their slogan, 'The publicgood before the private good,'the Chinese
Communists for murdering 62 million people inthe implementation of theirs, 'Serve thepeople,'and the Soviet Communists for
murdering more than 60 million people in theimplementation of Karl Marx's slogan, 'from
each according to his ability, to each accordingto his needs.' Anyone who defends any of
these, or any variation of them, on the groundsof their 'good intentions' is an immoral (NOT
'amoral') enabler of the ACTUAL (not just the
proverbial) road to hell." --Rick Gaber
"If men want to oppose war, it is statism thatthey must oppose. So long as they hold the
tribal notion that the individual is sacrificial
fodder for the collective, that some men have
the right to rule others by force, and that some(any) alleged 'good' can justify it -- there can be
no peace within a nation and no peace among
nations." -- Ayn Rand,The Roots of War
"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the
individual decisively, once and for all." --
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something wrong, pass a law and do
something about it." --Milton Friedman
"People have often been willing to giveup personal identity and join into a
collective. Historically, that propensityhas usually been very bad news.
Collectives tend to be mean, to designate
official enemies, to be violent, and todiscourage creative, rigorous thought.
Fascists, communists, religious cults,
criminal 'families'there has been no
end to the varieties of human collectives,but it seems to me that these examples
have quite a lot in common. I wonder ifsome aspect of human nature evolved inthe context of competing packs. We
might be genetically wired to be
vulnerable to the lure of the mob." --
Jaron Lanier,HERE
"Collectivism is the real-world
manifestation of the subjective, emotion-based feral animal origins of humanity,
like some recurring echo emanating
from the primitive reptile brain thatphysically exists in all of us. It is the
antithesis of rational objectivity,
something that no amount of fancy
verbiage from Marx or Chomsky orHimmler or Plato or Rousseau can
disguise in their respective paeans to
force and unity over intellect andevolution. Collectivism is a fancy word
for tribalism. It is a hold over, an
atavistic throw back ..." -- Perry de
Havilland,HERE
"Totalitarianism is collectivism.
Collectivism means the subjugation ofthe individual to a group -- whether to a
race, class or state does not matter.
Soviet Premier Nikita S. Khrushchev,addressing the 20th Congress of the Soviet
Communist Party, 2-25-56
"The unity of a nation's spirit and will are worthfar more than the freedom of the spirit and will
of an individual; and that the higher interests
involved in the life of the whole must here set
the limits and lay down the duties of theinterests of the individual." -- Adolph Hitler
"We need to stop worrying about the rights ofthe individual and start worrying about what is
best for society." -- Hillary Clinton
"...we understand only the individual's capacityto make sacrifices for the community, for his
fellow men." -- Adolf Hitler, 10-7-33
"We're going to take things away from you on
behalf of the common good." -- Senator HillaryRodham Clinton, June 28, 2004.
"To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou;socialism is sacrificing the individual to the
whole." -- Joseph Goebbels, Minister of
Propaganda, National Socialist GermanWorkers' ("Nazi") Party
"What, actually, is the difference betweencommunism and fascism? Both are forms of
statism, authoritarianism. The only difference
between Stalins communism and Mussolinisfascism is an insignificant detail in
organizational structure." --Leonard E. Read
"Racism, as a set of beliefs based upon the
arbitrary assertion that the content of one'smind and one's character are inherited and
unchangeable, is something I can demonstrateto be complete and total bullspit just from my
own personal experience. You see, I disagree
with more than half the teachings of my ownparents, and probably 90% of my other
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Collectivism holds that man must be
chained to collective action and
collective thought for the sake of what is
called `the common good. Throughouthistory, no tyrant ever rose to power
except on the claim of representing `the
common good. Napoleon `served thecommon good of France. Hitler [was]
`serving the common good of
Germany. Horrors which no man woulddare consider for his own selfish sake
are perpetrated with a clear conscience
by `altruists who justify themselves by -
- the common good." -- Ayn
Rand,HERE
"But I want you to LOVE ME!!!!"--
Franz-Josef, Emperor of Austria-
Hungary, as he screamed at a subject
while having him horsewhipped.
"Statismthe subordination of the
individual to the state -- leads inevitablyto the most hideous oppression." --
Andrew Bernstein,HERE
"The superficial distinctions of Fascism,
Bolshevism, Hitlerism, are the concern
of journalists and publicists; the seriousstudent sees in them only one root-idea
of a complete conversion of social
power into State power." -- Albert JayNock
Click the pic to see the story of this
COLLECTIVIST CURRENCY:
"... statism systematically violates the
rights of individuals and is, therefore,
ancesters. And I'm a cheerful, friendlyoptimist, while the vast majority of them have
been cynical, suspicious pessimists. The onlypeople who can consistently claim racism could
be valid are those people who agree with andact like their parents and ancestors 100% of thetime, have accepted everything they believe on
blind faith, and have done absolutely no
thinking, let alone corroborating, of their own.
Who in their right minds would ever want totake seriously whatever such a pathetic creature
has to say anyway?" -- Rick Gaber
"I have often lamented that with the collapse of
the Soviet bloc, the forces of liberalism did not
spend nearly enough time ruthlessly drivingintellectual stakes through the hearts of all those
who supported the 'Evil Empire' or preached
appeasement or claimed that the Soviet systemwas 'just another way of living' rather than a
mass murderous tyranny." --Perry de Havilland
"Mostmodern intellectualscongratulate
themselves for having achieved the allegedly
momentus insight that capitalism and altruism
are ultimately incompatible. Yet they're still
too damned ignorant to realize, or too damnedstubborn to acknowledge, that altruism is
definitely NOT the only moral code available tomankind; it is, in fact, the bloodiest and most
regressive one of all. Such stunted thinking on
the part of the intelligentsia has resulted in theircommitting the intellectual atrocity of rejecting
the capitalism and freedom instead of the
altruism and coercion." --Rick Gaber
"The three values which men held for centuries
and which have now collapsed are: mysticism,collectivism, altruism. Mysticism -- as acultural power -- died at the time of the
Renaissance. Collectivism -- as a political ideal
-- died in World War II. As to altruism -- it hasnever been alive. It is the poison of death in the
blood of Western civilization, and men survived
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immoral. Because it suppresses the
mind and violatesmens rights, it
thereby causes abysmal poverty and is
utterly impractical." -- AndrewBernstein,HERE
"All politicians are collectivists. Theydon't care about privacy."
-- Professor Ian Angell
"Wherever the real power in a
Government lies, there is the danger of
oppression. In our Governments the realpower lies in the majority of the
community, and the invasion of privaterights is chiefly to be apprehended, notfrom acts of Government contrary to the
sense of its constituents, but from acts in
which the Government is the mere
instrument of the major number of theConstituents." --James Madison, in a
letter to Thomas Jefferson, 1788
"Apure democracy ... can admit no cure
for the mischiefs of faction. A common
passion or interest will, in almost everycase, be felt by a majority, and there is
nothing to check the inducements to
sacrifice the weaker party... Hence it is
that democracies have ever been found
incompatible with personal security or
the rights of property; and have, in
general, been as short in their lives as
they have been violent in thier deaths."-
- James Madison, Federalist No. 10
"Isn't it somewhat remarkable that wecan go back a a few hundred years and
find no shortage of quotations from our
founding fathers warning us against thedangers of democracy, yet today
teachers and politicians use the word as
it only to the extent to which they neitherbelieved nor practiced it. ..." --Ayn Rand
"[Altruism] is a moral system which holds that
man has no right to exist for his own sake, thatservice to others is the sole justification of his
existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest
moral duty, value and virtue. This is the moral
base of collectivism, of all dictatorships." --Ayn Rand
"Republicans don't know how todefend morally an individual's right to achieve
wealth and to keep it, and that is why they fail.
... It's part and parcel with their ambivalence
over the individualist heritage of the nation. ...One of the things that people have to
understand is that the American Revolution was
truly an epic revolution in the way individualswere perceived in relation to the rest of the
society. Throughout history individuals had
always been cogs in some machine; they'dalways been something to be sacrified for the
king, the tribe, the gang, the chieftain, the
society around them, the race, whatever, and
the real revolution, in America especially, was
a moral revolution. It was a moral revolution inthat ... suddenly, with the Declaration of
Independence and the Constitution, theindividual, his life, his well-
being, his property,his happiness
became central to our values, and thatis whatreally made America unique. People came here
from all over the world to try to escape the kind
of oppression they had and experienced in the
past. They came here for freedom; they camehere for self-expression and self-realization,
and America offered them thatkind of a place."-- Robert Bidinotto
"Collectivism, as an intellectual power and a
moral ideal, is dead. But freedom andindividualism, and their political expression,
capitalism, have not yet been discovered." --
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if it were an offering of gold." --Neal
Boortz
"'Democracy' does not mean freedom." --Mark Da Cunha
"The issue here is liberty, and
democracy is far from a synonym forthat." --Perry de Havilland
"Democracy is four wolves and a sheep
voting on dinner." -- Robert A. Heinlein
"Democracy must be something more
than two wolves and a sheep voting onwhat to have for dinner." -- James
Bovard
"Lynch mobs are democracies." -- Neal
Boortz
"Our founding fathers detested the idea
of a democracy and labored long to
prevent America becoming one. Onceagain -- the word 'democracy' does not
appear in the Declaration ofIndependence, the Constitution of theUnited States, or the constitution of any
of the fifty states. Not once.
Furthermore, take a look at State of theUnion speeches. You wont find the 'D'
word uttered once until the Wilson
years." -- Neal Boortz, Nov. 7, 2002
"Democracy in itself does not define or
guarantee a free society. History has told
many stories of democratic societies thathave degenerated into corruption,
plunder, and tyranny." --Richard M.
Ebeling
"Fifty-one percent of a nation can
Ayn Rand
"It is not as late as you think. It is merely early -
- in the age of the rebirth of individualism." --
Ayn Rand
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establish a totalitarian regime, suppress
minorities and still remain democratic."-
- Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn
"I cant think of anything that would do
more toward putting us back on the roadto liberty and personal responsibility
than for the average American, and for
the news media, to come to theunderstanding that we are not a
democracy, nor were we supposed to
be." -- Neal Boortz
"The United States shall guarantee to
every state in this union a republicanform of government..." -- United StatesConstitution, Article IV, Section 4
"The people in the MSM (mainstreammedia) don't think of themselves as
liberal. They're just in favor of
collectivism and against individualism
in general -- withoutusing many labels
(or much thought) ofany kind. They go
out of their way only to mention a
minority group if they can. Groupism iswhat they believe in." --Rick Gaber
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