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Chicago Benge Instrument Survey
www.musicbyjoelill.com/bengeRevised 7/16/18 at 9:20 PM Page 1 of 28 Joe Lill: 773-612-3449; [email protected]
SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
500 Bb ML Lacquer SteveWard 2/21/07 Hand N S L Single
Line Horizontal None NoneBesson-
stylebrace
N Brass N TopAdjustable
The 2nd slide seems tohave been repaired.
The Sibley Benge, purchased in1936; a letter from Benge existsregarding this horn. Purchased
2/07 from David Sibley by SteveWard. It has curved windways.
513 Bb ML Lacquer DickShepherd 9/27/08 Hand N Single
Line Horizontal ELDENBENGE None
1 smallbrace on1st & 3rd
N Brass N TopAdjustable
Put a finger ring on the left sideso that he could play lefthanded.
2nd valve cap was lost andreplaced by H.M. White;
patch on 2nd slide.
Original owner until his death on9/13/08. Purchased, he believed,
in 1935 through his teacher. It has513 stamped on each valve. Now in
the possession of his son, Jim.
520 Bb ML Lacquer BillFaust 2/16/06 Hand N S Single
Line Horizontal ELDENBENGE None
2 braceson 1st;1 smallon 3rd
N Brass N TopSolid
Owned by an anonymouswoman in Ohio; it has
curved windways.
522 Bb ML Lacquer MarkKoehl 11/23/14 Resno* N (!) S
4 5/8"S
3/4"SingleLine Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE None1 small
brace on1st & 3rd
N Brass N TopSolid
Bell likely replaced by EldenBenge (around 1943?).
Leadpipe replaced in 1994 byMynett Music in Fort Wayne, IN.
Patch on 1st & 2nd slides.
Originally owned by Maurie Grimes(Chicago Theater). It then went to his
cousin, Roy Bodie, who gave it tohis brother-in-law, Ben Weldon, MK's
great-uncle.
524 Bb ML Lacquer BobBussell 1/23/12 Hand N L
4 3/4"S
3/4"SingleLine Horizontal Unreadable None
1 smallbrace on1st & 3rd
N Brass N TopSolid
Valve caps are from a Conn.4" patch on underside of bell at
the valve casings.
Purchased used in 1943 for $200 fromJack Stearns; sold when BB went to
medical school. Re-purchasedtwo years later! It has curved
windways.
525 Bb ML LacquerLauraSholle
Guentner2/13/18 Hand N S Single
Line Horizontal ELDENBENGE None
1 smallbrace on1st & 3rd
N Brass N TopSolid
Inherited from her grandfather,James Scholle, who purchased it in
the 1940s. He was a freelancemusician who played with the
Cleveland Orchestra andother ensembles.
526 Bb ML Lacquer RonTurner 4/29/08 Resno* Y* S
4 5/8"S
3/4" * Horizontal None None1 small
brace on1st & 3rd
2ndonly(!)
Brass N BottomSolid
Bell likely replaced by EldenBenge. Receiver also replaced.
Patch on 2nd slide.
Given to RT by John Sullivan,whose father-in-law, Frank
Anglund, purchased it in 1936.RT is Anglund's nephew.
527 Bb ML Lacquer ScottZimmerman 5/1/18 Hand N Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE None1 small
brace on1st & 3rd
N Brass N TopSolid
Not really an alteration, but this trumpet was built with a French
Besson bell. (per FrankKaderabek)
This trumpet was used by SZ's father & grandfather. Family lore has itthat the trumpet was owned by atrumpeter in the Benny Goodman
band, and was acquired as paymentfor services rendered by his great-grandfather. According to Frank
Kaderabek, it was originally ownedby Frank Holz of the Chicago
Symphony, whose daughter is saidto have designed the staff logo.
528 Bb ML Lacquer Frank Kaderabek 2/4/07 Hand N L S * Horizontal Unreadable None
Longbrace on3rd; none
on 1st
N Brass
Triggeradded from a Besson
BottomSolid
Not really alterations, but EB put the leadpipe & tuning slide fromthe same French Besson on thistrumpet. There are four patches.
1955: hand burnished silverplated.
Originally owned by Ed Masacek ofthe CSO; FK was his student andbought the horn in 1949 for $100;
he still has it.
529 Bb ML Silver JeffBriddle 3/8/14 Hand N S * Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE None
1 braceon 1st;1 smallon 3rd
N Brass Y TopSolid
Originally lacquered.1st slide ring added.
Purchased in March 2014 from JasonMcDonald, who purchased it in 2003.Unique leadpipe; original? The borewas measured by Mike Ackerman inMarch 2012. It's on the small side for
an ML horn.
530 Bb Joe Summerhill 2/9/07
The location of this horn isunknown. JS bought it from
Bill Crosson for $40.00 and tradedit to Renold Schilke for an early
Schilke B1.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
533 Bb ML Lacquer AndrewMaruoka 6/1/13 Hand N S Single
Line Horizontal None(worn off?) None
1 braceon 1st;1 smallon 3rd
N N TopSolid
Purchased by his father, Kaz,in the late 1960s. It has
curved windways.
534 Bb ML Lacquer ChuckKleeberg 7/5/07 Hand N S S Single
Line Horizontal ELDENBENGE None
1 braceon 1st;1 smallon 3rd
N Brass Y TopSolid
1st saddle added.There are some patches onthe leadpipe and the bell.
Purchased by David Stangaronefrom Jay Thomas in Seattle
@1995, who'd found it at the"Lucky Loan Pawn Shop" in
Vancouver, WA. Purchased by CKfrom DS throgh Ebay in Jan 07.
It has curved windways.
536 BbML
.462-.464
Lacquer VinceDiMartino 1/5/16 Hand N Single
Line Horizontal ELDENBENGE None
1 braceon 1st;1 smallon 3rd
N N TopSolid Refurbished by Rich Ita in 2007.
Originally owned by Louis VanManen. Purchased in 2007 by
VDM from Kathy Kawka; formerlyowned by her brother, David Konkle.
VDM measured the slides, which ranged from .462-.464.
543 Bb NancyKukulka 2/8/13
Her father was the original owner. His parents purchased it for him
in the 1930s.
546 Bb ML Silver Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Hand N S S SingleLine Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE None Rod3rd only N Brass N Bottom
Solid
It seems to be the earliest trumpetso far totally made by EldenBenge. It also has the earliest
example of the old finger hook, andhas straight windways.
549 KevinRodgers 12/21/06
554 Bb ML Lacquer Randy Murphy 3/10/15 Hand Y(!) Rings Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Bottom
SolidThe only Hand-Tempered Bell
with a staff logo so far!
Purchased from Rachel Bierma inearly 2015. Rachel purchased it inFebruary 2009 at a garage sale for
$40 from the granddaughter of DonLindley, who is mentioned in twoChicago Benge ads. (NBC Staff
Orchestra)
559 Bb ML Mary LouCampbell 9/13/09
Originally owned by her father,Lou Klatt, who played it on the
National Barn Dance.
560 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Steve
Ward 4/8/18 Hand N S S Rings Horizontal ELDENBENGE None Rod
1st & 3rd Y Nickel N TopAdjustable
Refurbished by Elden Benge in1949. Patch on leadpipe.
Purchased from Al Feldner, whopurchased it through his teacher,
Vincent Cichowicz. Elden Benge told Al that it was made in 1936.
561 Bb ML Lacquer AlJohnson 9/23/15 Resno Y Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE Bottom None since at least 1965.
Purchased used in 1965 at a musicstore in Santa Rosa, CA. The earliest
horn with the staff logo and theResno-Tempered Bell stamping.
570 Bb ML Lacquer JamieJasko 6/26/06 Hand N S S Rings Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable
No stop mechanism on3rd slide; flange to bell verysmooth; great craftsmanship
571 Bb ML Lacquer DmitriBaravik 5/3/12 * * Single
Line (*) Horizontal ELDENBENGE None Rod
1st & 3rd Y Nickel N TopAdjustable
* Bell and leadpipe replacedwith an LA bell and a Burbank/LA
leadpipe. Freshly refurbished.
Sold on Ebay in May 2012 byDmitri Baravik/Alex Negel/
Wedgle's Music & Loan.
579 Bb ML Lacquer DonJames 5/22/08 Resno Y Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE None Rod1st & 3rd Y N Top
Adjustable
Patches on bell, leadpipe,1st valve casing, 1st and
2nd slides.
581 Bb ML Lacquer MarkShryack 9/27/11 Resno Y S S
7/8" Rings Horizontal ELDENBENGE None Rod
1st & 3rd Y Nickel N TopAdjustable
Leadpipe replaced by CharlieMelk; original receiver rettached.
Originally owned by Howard (Hap)Davis of the NBC-Chicago and
Oriental Theater Orchestras.Purchased by Steve Dillard
from Jon Harting in late 2007;sold to Gary Garcia in 2008.Purchased by MS in 2011.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
583 Bb ML Lacquer RalphMullins 8/29/07 Hand N S Rings Horizontal ELDEN
BENGE None Rod1st & 3rd Y Y Bottom
Solid1st saddle added.
Patch added to 2nd valve slide.
588 Bb ML Silver RoyCaton 9/10/15 Hand N Rings Horizontal Rod
1st & 3rd Y Nickel N TopAdjustable Replated along the way.
Info submitted by his son, Steve CatonRoy played in the Third Herd and
was a member of the Wrecking Crew.
592 Bb ML Lacquer CharlesMeiselman 8/12/17 Resno Y Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO
Bought used for his son Charles byMyron Meiselman from a San
Francisco Symphony member in1955. Supposedly made from bras
that Benge had obtained from France, making for a more mellow sound.
597 Bb ML Gold EbayAuction 12/20/05 Resno Y S S * Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable2nd slide & receiver
replaced
Owner has written documentationon horn. Formerly owned by
Rick Dawson.
598 Bb ML Lacquer BillyWeiser 8/24/06 Resno Y S S * Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None * N * Y *
Many alterations: Different leadpipe, receiver (double lines), 3rd slide braces (2 braces), 3rd
slide ring has been moved to the top (solid).
Most inner slide tubes havebeen replaced along the way.
Main: brass; 1st: brass;2nd: nickel; 3rd: top-brass,
bottom-nickel; 3rd end: brass
602 Bb ML Lacquer JoePodgor 4/1/18 Resno Y Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO Raw brass at this point.
607 Bb ML Lacquer JohnGoldman 11/14/17 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Bottom
SolidFive patches added by EldenBenge when originally made.
In like-new condition; never reallyplayed! As pristine as it gets.
Sold in November 2017.
608 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Steve
Dillard 10/15/15 Hand N S Rings Horizontal eye logoCHICAGO None Rod
1st & 3rd Y Nickel N TopAdjustable
The 2nd valve slide points towardthe 1st valve, NOT the 3rd!
610 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Hand N S S Rings Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
AdjustableThe 2nd valve slide points toward
the 1st valve, NOT the 3rd!
614 Bb ML Lacquer PaulWilliamson 7/7/10 Hand N Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Nickel N TopAdjustable
Bell repaired by Elden Bengein Burbank.
Purchased from Elden Benge throughhis teacher, Leo deMers, in 1942. He
also received a Chicago Bengemouthpiece along with the horn!
620 Bb DonCrawford 10/11/17
622 Bb ML Lacquer ChuckKleeberg 3/30/10 Hand N S S Rings Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
AdjustableRelacquered; leadpipe and bow
patched by Lou Duda.Purchased through an Ebay Auction
from Steve Dillard.
629 Bb ML Silver JayBortolotto 6/25/07 Hand N S S Rings Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable
Restored by Byron Autrey. Singleline receiver replaced with correct
style (double rings).
Purchased from RyanZoghlin in 2004 through
an Ebay auction.
631 Bb M.453 Lacquer Brittany
Lasch 5/28/15 Resno Y S S Rings Horizontal eye logoCHICAGO None Rod
1st & 3rd Y Nickel Y BottomSolid
Two patches: one on the leadpipe and one on the bell.
Inherited from a family memberin 2014. Offered for sale through
Josh Landress. The earliest mediumbore trumpet so far.
635 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Resno Y S S Rings Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
AdjustableBelonged to father of Carol Hart,
who studied w/Schilke
637 Bb M.453 Lacquer Robb
Stewart 8/6/10 Resno Y S4 11/16" S Rings Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable3rd slide ring originally on thebottom. Originally silverplated.
658 Bb AndrewKarst 6/4/08 eye logo
CHICAGOGiven to AK's father by Zig Kanstul
when they worked together.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
665 Bb ML Lacquer RandyMurphy 9/15/12 Hand N Rings Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Bottom
Solid
Originally purchased in 1939 byDorothy Rundle, while a student atNorthwestern. Also played by herhusband, Floyd, a trumpeter/band
director in Dubuque, and theirdaughter, Genette Rundle.
Purchased in September 2010 byRM through Abel Auctions.
667 Bb ML Lacquer KenMuronaka 6/10/16 Resno Y S S Rings Horizontal eye logo
CHICAGO None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable
Purchased in June 2016 from ScottHarp, the son of Mike Harp, who
purchased it in June 2006 for$20 at a yard sale; that person
purchased it two days priorat an estate sale.
670 Bb ML WilliamNideng 11/3/16
His father was a student of JamesStamp in St. Paul, MN. Stamp
gave him this Benge. It was playedwith Salvation Army bands and
the Duluth Symphony.
681 Bb ML Gold DonaldRugg 4/29/10 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Bottom
Solid Gold plated. Pristine condition.Sold in March 2010.
695 Bb ML.460 Silver Robb
Stewart 7/14/13 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo(only) None Rod
1st & 3rd Y N BottomSolid
Purchased in 2013 from RebeccaKelley, who found it at a
thrift store earlier in the year.
700 Bb ML Lacquer TomSnelson 4/8/07 Resno Y Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None Y Nickel N TopAdjustable Patch on leadpipe.
720 Bb Lacquer HowieSchneider 11/19/12 Resno Y Relacquered along the way. Purchased used in 2012.
728 Bb M.453 Lacquer Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Resno Y S S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable Bought from an antique store.
745 Bb ML Lacquer WayneWright 11/17/10 Resno Y S
4 5/8"S
3/4" Rings Horizontal eye logo(only) None Rod
1st & 3rd Y Nickel N BottomSolid
Protective patches on bell, 1st and3rd slide top tubes, appear to be
original to horn. Bell stemreinforced, bell ferrule replaced
(stamped "3"). Receiver possiblyrepaired. Relacquered; but staff
logo isvery crisp and sharp.
Purchased August 2010 from JerryStodden. JS purchased it in 1988 for$280 from Shirley Kane, sister of theoriginal owner, Richard Schulz, whoplayed in big bands on the west coast,
most notably the Eddie FitzpatrickOrchestra.
747 Bb ML Lacquer FrankFicek 9/11/06 Resno Y S L (!) Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None Rod3rd only Y Nickel N Bottom
SolidBasic repairs; the 2nd
and 3rd tubes are brass.
Purchased by John Ficek for$163 on 7/16/40. His son hasthe original receipt & case.
748 Bb ML Ralph Mullins 8/29/07 Resno Rings Formerly owned by a school and
used by the students.
750 Bb ML.460 Silver Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Resno Y L S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None Rod3rd only Y Nickel N Top
AdjustableOwned and silver plated
by Schilke.
754 Bb ML Lacquer BuddyGreene 11/25/06 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal None Rod
1st & 3rd N TopAdjustable
Purchased slightly used fromCharlie Allen in 1943.
775 Bb ML Lacquer AnnabelGrey 5/20/13 Resno Y * Horizontal eye logo
(only)Rod
1st & 3rd Y N TopAdjustable Receiver replaced along the way. Given to her by her father
@1967-68.
795 Bb ML Lacquer JimSchlegel 12/18/13 Resno Y Horizontal eye logo
(only) Five patches have been added. Purchased used in 1950.
807 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Resno Y S L (!) Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
810 Bb ML.464 Lacquer Kai Frode
Grythe 7/1/16 Resno Y S4 5/8"
S3/4" Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None Rod1st & 3rd Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable
Purchased in October 2014 from Charlie Melk. KFG measured
the bore as .464, which would bean MLP if such a thing existed
at the time!
819 Bb ML KatherineWardle 5/28/11 Resno Y eye logo
(only) Purchased used @1961 in Boston.
828 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Stephanie
Brite 3/29/13 Resno Y S * Horizontal eye logo(only) None Rod
1st & 3rd Y Nickel N TopAdjustable
Receiver likely replaced witha Burbank receiver.
Purchased in 2013 by GordonLaSalle Music (East Hartford, CN)
from the estate of Nick Galetta, whoplayed with Tommy Dorsey.
897 Cornet ML Lacquer MollySauer 10/17/17 Resno Y Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None Rod1st & 3rd N Top
Adjustable
Two patches: one on the leadpipe and one on the bell. Amado water
keys installed. 3/8" cut from tuning slide to raise the pitch; original
rings reinstalled.
Inherited from the late JohnBartmann, who bought it used from
a Chicago Symphony Orchestra member @1948. His Bix CD was
recorded using this horn.No shepherd's crook.
899 Bb ML Lacquer HughTyler 3/31/13 Resno Y S
4 5/8" S Rings Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable None.Purchased used in 1950 from his
teacher, Floyd Hoose, who was theoriginal owner.
903 Bb ML Lacquer RickSchell 2/20/09 Resno Y S
4 5/8" Rings Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable None.Purchased in February 2009 from
the original owner. The 1000th Bengeon my list of Chicago/Burbank/LAs!
905 DrewTechner 9/18/06 Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
908 Bb ML Silver GeorgeLyman 6/3/18 Resno Y Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Nickel Y TopAdjustable Purchased from John Clyman in 1972.
909 Bb ML Lacquer DonMolloy 1/12/07 Resno Y
Owned by a friend, the originalowner; still has original case;
purchased @1940.
911 Cornet ML Lacquer FredCirksena 4/26/11 Resno Y Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N BottomSolid
914 Cornet ML Lacquer Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Resno Y L S Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable
Once owned by Bud Dant, whoplayed with Hoagy Carmichael.
No shepherd's crook.
932 Bb ML Lacquer JeffHughes 12/21/16
Purchased from Dillon Music in 2013.He has the origonal bill of sale (!)
dated July 1941.
941 Bb ML Lacquer DanLouton 12/15/11 Resno Y Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N BottomSolid
Overhauled and relacquered.Patch on 3rd slide.
945 Bb M.453 Silver Robb Stewart 3/6/06 Resno Y eye logo
(only)It has a Burbank bell with
a staff logo (!)Sold to Michael Newton
(from California) in June 1997.
946 Bb Lacquer JeffWhiteford 4/18/10 Resno Y S Single
Line Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable Acquired in 2010.
947 Bb M.453 Lacquer Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Resno N S L (!) Single
Line Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N Bottom
SolidIt has a Burbank bell with
no staff logo (!)
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
954 Bb ML.462 Silver John
Aigi-Hurn 9/6/13 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Brass Y Top
Adjustable1st saddle added by
Schilke in 1986.
Formerly owned by his Seattleteacher, Charlie Butler, who purchasedit in 1986 from Gilbert C. Sprain for
$300, through Custom Music inBellevue, WA. It is thought that Sprain
purchased it through his teacher,James Stamp before 1942. Sprain
studied with Benge while in the Navyat Great Lakes in 1942,
955 Bb ML Silver LouRovner 10/21/06 Resno Y S
4 5/8" S * Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N Bottom
Solid
*It has a Bach receiver; patch on1st valve slide. Probably silver
plated by Schilke.
Purchased from RenoldSchilke in 1962.
957 Bb ML Silver DaveGraubart 8/5/09 Resno Y Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel Y TopAdjustable
Originally lacquered; silverplated in the early 1970s.
Purchased used in the early 1940s byDG's father, Harold Graubart, for
$150. HG played it in the LawrenceWelk Orchestra.
959 Bb ML Silver JohnHagstrom 6/13/17 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N TopAdjustable
2nd bottom valve cap has beenreplaced. Patch on leadpipe; two
more on the bell. Missing3rd slide ring.
Purchased through Ebay in early 2016
960 Bb ML Lacquer Joe Summerhill 1/13/06 Resno Y S S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None (Benge) Y Y BottomSolid
JS replaced the 3rd slidebraces with a Benge brace
965 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Ryan Zoghlin 1/9/06 Resno Y L S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N BottomSolid Purchased from Leon Merian.
967 Bb ML Lacquer OscarBrashear 9/12/08 Resno Y L
4 3/4" S Rings Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel * Bottom
Solid
A 1st valve trigger had beeninstalled but is no longer
on the horn.
969 Bb ML Lacquer AlanLaschiver 1/31/12 Resno Y L S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N BottomSolid
Refurbished by Steve Winans (Dr.Valve), relacquered by Charlie
Melk. The receiver was replicatedby Robb Stewart.
Purchased from Dennis Sackman inSeptember 2010.
971 Bb ML Brass BertFalcone 1/29/15 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N BottomSolid
Originally silver plated. Valvesoverhauled and replated.
Purchased from Dave Norman, whopurchased it in 2014. Formerly ownedby Skip Warren, who purchased it inNovember 2012 from Steve Lewis,
who purchased it in September 2012. The original case was included.
980 Bb ML Lacquer JeffMartin 3/3/08 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y N BottomSolid
Purchased from Joel Sarichin February 2008.
982 Bb ML Lacquer DaveNorman 4/16/13 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N TopAdjustable PVA done by Bob Reeves. Purchased in 2013.
984 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 12/17/12 Resno Y * Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N TopAdjustable
Relacquered along the way. Pretty beat up. Receiver replaced?
988 Bb ML Lacquer JeffDean 9/8/16 Resno Y S
4 5/8" S * Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N Bottom
Solid
Amado water key installed onmain tuning slide. Relacqueredalong the way by Kanstul; the
receiver was replaced. Anadjustable 3rd slide ring
was added.
Purchased from Dave Hutteman.Formerly owned by Dillon Music &
The Trumpet Shop.
989 Bb ML Silver MarioPino 12/4/08 Resno Y None
Purchased new by MP's father(Rosario Pino) from
Donald Reinhardt in 1942.
1000 Bb ML Silver PeteRoss 10/11/10 Resno N (!) L S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N BottomSolid
Purchased from Will Phinizy throughEbay in October 2010. Phinizy
purchased it from Chuck Kleebergon July 30, 2008.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
1008 Bb ML Lacquer RandySampson 7/22/11 Resno N (!) S
4 5/8"Single
Line (*) Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces N Top
Adjustable *Leadpipe and receiver replaced. Purchased from Paul von Adamin July 2011.
1009 Bb ML Lacquer VincenzSpada 4/24/18 Resno N (!) S Single
Line (*) Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N Top
Adjustable
His father, René Spada (a trumpetdesigner), purchased it from Renold
Schilke in the 1970s.
1012 Bb ML Silver DickPrestage 4/28/06 Resno N (!) L S Single
Line (*) Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel Y
Top; Solidbut has
extension
Replated silver, 1st trigger added,then removed; saddle added;patches put on; receiver &
leadpipe replaced.
Third slide: longer tube on bottom
1016 Bb ML Silver EbayAuction 10/25/14 Resno * * Single
Line Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y N
Top; Solidbut has
extension
Bell replaced with a BurbankBenge bell. Receiver also
replaced?Third slide: longer tube on bottom.
1021 Bb ML Lacquer Bruce A.Martineau 6/4/10 Resno N (!) Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel N BottomSolid
Two patches; one on the bell andone small one on the leadpipe next
to the 1st valve casing.
Purchased through anEbay auction in 2008.
1027 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 6/3/18 Resno Y S S Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel Y BottomSolid
Receiver has been replaced.The main tuning slides have likely
been replaced, as they're brass.
1030 Bb ML Silver GarryGillette 6/22/12 Resno Y L
4 3/4" Horizontal eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y N Top
Adjustable
Has been replated, the valvesreconditioned, and the dents
removed; all by Bartold Music.
Purchased used @July 1976 fromNorm Bartold of Bartold Music in
Wooldland Hills, CA.
1032 Bb ML Lacquer RoyNickel 3/2/08 Resno N (!) Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Nickel
1034 Bb M Silver RobFund 1/4/06 Resno Y S S Rings Vertical Worn off None 2 braces Y N Bottom
SolidWear patch addedon 3rd valve slide
silver plated by Schilke-1969;no water key;
3rd slide end pulls off
1036 Bb ML Lacquer AndyBusti 11/8/12 Resno Y Rings Vertical Worn off None 2 braces Y Nickel N Bottom
Adjustable
Inner valve slide tubes are brass.Repaired & relaquered in early
1960s.
Purchased @1960 for $115from the original owner,
Arnold Battalini.
1037 Bb ML Lacquer RandyMurphy 6/20/15 Resno Y S Rings Vertical eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y N TopAdjustable Refurbished by Daniel Oberloh. Purchased through an
Ebay auction in May 2015.
1050 Cornet ML Lacquer BillJohnson 12/12/08 Resno Y S Rings Horizontal eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable
Purchased by his father, EveretteW. Johnson; he was very possibly
the original owner.
1052 BbL
.468(!)
Lacquer MarkShryack 2/1/10 Resno Y S Rings Vertical eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Brass N BottomSolid
Leadpipe tube replaced andrelacquered by Rogers Brass.
Purchased from Gary Garcia in 2010.GG purchased it from Rogers Brass inApril 2008. All three slides measure
.468; a prototype large bore?
1055 Bb Silver RickBaptist 5/8/16 Bell replaced with a Burbank.
1068 Bb ML Silver DavidBilger 10/23/06 Resno Y S S Double
Lines (!) Vertical eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Brass Y Bottom
Solid Receiver replaced?Originally owned by Harry
Glantz, and then MaximGershunoff before DB.
1073 Bb ML Silver DennisJohnson 11/15/17 Resno Y S Rings Vertical eye logo
(only) None 2 braces Y Brass N BottomSolid Patch on the 2nd slide.
Purchased from Bert Falcone, who purchased it from Dave Norman, who
purchased it in 2013 from theestate of Richard Cruz.
1075 Bb ML Lacquer WillScarlett 2/21/07 Resno Y S
4 5/8" S Rings Vertical eye logo(only) None 2 braces Y Brass N Bottom
Solid Possibly relacquered; no patches.
1078 Bb Craigslist 3/27/15
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
1208 Bb ML Silver PaulLisanti 5/7/07 Resno Y Rings Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
SolidOriginally lacquered; silver
plated at Schilke c.1975.
Given to Frank Lisanti by EldenBenge @1946. Schilke thought
that it was a "put-together" horn,which makes sense, as the number is so odd, and it has ML stamped
on it, which Benge didn't startdoing until #2521.
1501 Bb L.468 Lacquer Wayne
Wright 1/22/10 Resno Y L4 3/4" S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces Y Brass Y TopSolid None
Purchased from John Baber in January2010. JB purchased it from John
Sullivan in August 2007. Originallypurchased in late 1946 by JS's
father-in-law, Frank Anglund, whenhe switched to the NBC Orchestra.
1506 Bb L Silver DanGoulart 6/12/18 Resno Y L S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces Y Brass N TopSolid
Originally lacquered; he had itsilver plated shortly after
purchasing it.Purchased used in 1960.
1508 Bb L Silver DaveNorman 8/9/15 Resno Y L S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces Y Brass N TopSolid
Four small patches. Replatedalong the way. Purchased used in January 2015.
1512 Bb L Lacquer EbayAuction 8/14/11 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE 2 braces Y Brass Y TopSolid
1515 BbL
.475(!)
Lacquer TomNicholson 2/12/06 Resno Y L S Horizontal BENGE Bell 2 braces Y Top
SolidRepaired from
crunching
Purchased through an EbayAuction. It has the latest exampleof the old finger hook on an large
bore horn.
1519 Bb L.468 Lacquer Jeff
Martin 2/13/08 Resno Y L S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces Y Brass N Top
Solid None
Purchased from Russ DiGate, whopurchased it from Steve Ward.
It has the earliest example of thenew finger hook on an L horn.
1527 Bb L Lacquer BillEvans 7/7/10 Bell
Originally owned by his father,the late "Red" Evans. Red got the
horn through an Army buddy(a Sgt. Munson) who was Benge's
neighbor. The horn arrived in acardboard box, wrapped in newspaper.
1528 Bb L Lacquer SteveDillard 12/9/12 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces Y Brass N TopSolid
Likely relaquered along the way.Protective patch added to
1st valve slide.The 350th Chicago Benge on the list!
1532 Bb L Lacquer BillKrinsky 10/25/08 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces Overhauled by Perry Perrone.This horn was obtained in a
trade with Bernie Adelstein, whobought it from Benge in 1947.
1534 Bb L Lacquer Chris T.Patterson 5/24/11 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell Y Brass N TopSolid
1537 Bb L Gold SeanMason 4/1/08 Resno Y L S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces Y Brass Y TopSolid
Originally lacquered; refurbishedby Doctor Valve.
1542 Bb L Silver RobbStewart 8/26/14 Resno Y L S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces Brass TopSolid Replated along the way. Formerly owned by Graham Young,
Ray Williams and Dudley Stone.
1543 Bb L Silver MikeBuckby 7/3/07 Resno Y L
4 3/4" S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass Y Top
Solid Patch on leadpipe.
1547 Bb L Lacquer JohnTavlin 10/24/13 Resno Y L S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass N TopSolid
Overhauled by Kanstuland gold-plated.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
1549 Bb L Lacquer BillPaukovitz 12/20/11 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass N TopSolid
Originally lacquered; silver plated, leadpipe replaced and gold washed bell by Kanstul. Valves replated &
aligned by Dr. Valve.
Purchased in March 2010 from RussDiGate, who purchased it through an
Ebay auction in February 2007.
1556 Bb L Silver JohnBaber 7/13/10 Resno Y L
4 3/4" S SingleLine Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N Top
Solid Refinished; receiver replaced.Purchased used by Jeff Blexrud in
1977. Purchased from Jeff byMatt Stocker, and from Matt by JB.
1557 Bb L Lacquer BillLocke 5/4/12 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass N TopSolid
Purchased in January 2010. It hadbeen sitting in a Portland, OR attic for@60 years and is in beautiful shape.
New style finger hook.
1560 Bb L Lacquer ChuckKleeberg 6/30/06 Resno Y L S
1/2"SingleLine Vertical BENGE Worn off 2 braces N Brass N Top
Solid 3 patches; replaced receiver? Purchased throughan Ebay Auction.
1562 Bb L Silver DeanSahutske 8/28/07 Resno Y L
4 3/4"SingleLine Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N Top
Solid Refurbished by Kevin Powers. Purchased @1991.
1566 Bb L JeffHerold 5/16/09 Resno Vertical Formerly owned by Jeff's father,
Robert E. Herold. (1927-1996)
1573 Bb L Gold RandyKing 11/18/14 Resno Y L
4 3/4" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass N Top
Solid Offered for sale by King Music.
1577 Bb L Lacquer AlanLaschiver 5/13/07 Resno Y L
4 3/4" L Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass N TopSolid
Reconditioned in 2007 byZig Kanstul.
Purchased in February 2007from Gary R. Aull.
1578 Bb L Lacquer David L.Parrish 4/30/12 Resno Y L
4 3/4" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass N Top
Solid
Not an alteration, but the bore ofthe main tuning slides, 1st and 3rd
slides measure out at .472!
Purchased new by Marshall Plush in1950 for $325 through his teacher,Donald Reinhardt. Purchased from
MP by Bill Barnes in 2008.Purchased from BB by DLP in 2009.
1581 Cornet L.467 Lacquer Joe
Lill 8/2/16 Resno Y L4 3/4"
S3/4" Rings Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass Y* Top
Solid
*1st valve saddle added byJoe Summerhill in 2007.
Overhauled by Rick Moravec and relacquered by Charlie Melk
in July 2016.
Purchased from Art Depew in June2007. He bought it from Elden Bengein 1960. This is one of very few horns
Elden Benge kept for himself.Borrowed from Benge by Dick
Cathcart for the album "Bix 1959."The earliest large bore Chicago Benge
cornet so far. No shepherd's crook.
1586 Cornet L Lacquer Elizabeth A.Hutchinson 12/2/11 Resno Y L
4 3/4" S Rings Vertical BENGE Bell Benge N Brass N TopSolid None
Purchased new in 1953 for EH'sfather, Gerald P. Hutchinson.
No shepherd's crook. She also hasthe Chicago Benge cornet mouthpiece
that came with the horn.
1588 Bb L LucyWeinman 2/28/09 Single
Line Benge Receiver replaced? Given to her by her great-uncle.
1598 Bb L JimBorst 2/19/14 Resno Y Vertical Leadpipe Original owner; purchased in 1947-49.
1599 Bb L Lacquer BruceDaugherty 12/21/11 Resno Y L L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge2ndonly(!)
Nickel N TopRelacquered; protective (not structural) patches added to
leadpipe and underside of bell.Sold on Ebay in December 2011.
1600 Bb L Lacquer EbayAuction 9/22/16 Resno Y Single
Line (!) Vertical Benge N Brass N TopSolid
The longtime owner (since 1953-54)insists that the receiver was not
replaced. A bit of a mystery.
1602 Bb L Gold StanSilverstein 8/31/06 Resno Y L Vertical BENGE Benge Y Top
SolidRefurbished in 2000; 3 small patches were put on @1962.
Purchased in 1962 fromClaude Fontanella.
1604 Bb L.468 Silver Art
Depew 3/20/06 Resno Y DoubleLines
He played this horn leading theHarry James band and he alsoplayed it with Lawrence Welk.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
1607 Bb L Silver DavidFrolicstein 2/20/07
Purchased @1974 from EddieBallantine (CBS Orchestra),
the original owner.
1618 Bb L Lacquer EbayAuction 7/20/09 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge2ndonly(!)
Brass N TopSolid
1619 Bb L.468 Lacquer Fred
Cirksena 9/22/08 Resno Y L4 3/4"
S3/4"
DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None (!) Benge N Nickel (!) Y Top
Solid Relacquered along the way. Main slide & 3rd slide tubesreplaced with nickel?
1630 Bb L Lacquer MalcolmRainey 5/10/06 Resno Y L L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge Brass N TopSolid None
Purchased from Elden Benge in1949-50, for @$200. He still has
the original case.
1631 Bb L Lacquer GlennWilfert 5/26/16 Resno L Owned since the 1950s.
1636 Bb L Lacquer KenFisher 4/11/13 Resno Y L L N Top
Solid
Inherited from his grandfather,Matt Hernbrott, who was the
original owner.
1643 Bb L Gold JodiCreager 5/24/10 Resno Y L
4 3/4" L SingleLine Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
Solid
In Burbank, Elden Benge changedthe finger hook to a ring to make
it easier to hold, as Graves had lostsome fingers on his left hand.
Her father, Joe Graves, was the original
owner. He'd played for many big-namebig bands and conducted the Harry
James band after James' death.
1647 Bb L Lacquer KarlKaub 11/29/06 Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Restored by Dick Akright; thebell is so buffed that the
inscriptions can't be read.
Purchased @1996 from theTreasure Trove inSan Mateo, CA.
1649 Bb L Lacquer HarryKim 6/19/18
1650 Bb L Silver DotBurkert 9/28/09 Resno Y L Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N N Top
Solid There are a number of patches. Purchased in the mid-1990s at agarage sale for less than $5.
1653 Bb L Lacquer BenjaminBradford 8/11/17 Resno Y L
4 3/4"S
3/4"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
SolidLeadpipe replaced by Rich Ita;
pipe obtained from Kanstul.
Obtained in spring 2017 from thefamily of the original owner, Pat Ware,
who passed away in March 2013.
1660 Bb L Lacquer Union MusicCompany 4/20/12
Leadpipe has been replaced;missing one valve cap.
Valves have been aligned.
1661 Bb L Silver DonMolloy 1/12/07 Resno Y Single
Line Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Silver plated and patched.Receiver possibly replaced orhorn was finished in Burbank.
Purchased it in 2000 from Elmer James, who bought it
from a member of the Fire Dept.band of Norwood, NY.
1662 Bb L Lacquer EbayAuction 1/10/15 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N N TopSolid
1663 Bb L FrankGlasson 3/3/12
1669 Bb L Lacquer GaryRathbun 5/23/13 Resno Y L
4 3/4"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
SolidPurchased at an estate sale in 2013
and resold.
1672 Bb L Silver BrianMinsk 3/26/11 Resno Y L
4 3/4"L
1 1/4"SingleLine Vertical BENGE None (!) Benge N Brass Y Top
Adjustable
Has patch on 2nd slide and on theunderside of the bell. Valves
redone by Rich Ita.
Purchased @1990 at anold music store in Atlanta.
1673 Bb L Silver MikeKukovec 4/8/15 Resno Y Vertical N N Top
Solid Originally lacquered.Purchased used by his father, also
named Mike Kukovec, @196 for $125.
1674 Bb L Gold BruceJohnson 2/17/18 Custom etching on the length
of the bell.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
1678 Bb L Lacquer DaveNorman 5/18/18 Resno Y L
4 3/4"L
1 1/8"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None (!) Benge N Brass Y Top
Adjustable None
Purchased from William Humphreyin May 2018. WH purchased it used in
the early 1970s through his highschool band director, Gene Chard.
1679 Bb L DavidWaldie 3/20/16
1682 Bb L Lacquer Garry M.Eckard 12/16/06 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Relacquered by the Benge Co.in the late 1960s/early 1970s.
Traded his medium bore Chicago(with $35.00) to Johnny Bello
in May/July 1952.
1683 Bb L Silver R.E.Grant 5/7/09 Leadpipe Originally lacquered; silver
plated in Chicago c.1970.
Original owner; ordered from Bengethrough his teacher, Cliff Sproul
(Wichita, KS).
1685 Bb L JacobLarson 3/11/08 Patches on the leadpipe and bell. Acquired in 1978.
1694 Bb L Lacquer RobSack 1/30/14 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Refurbished by Steve Winans(Doctor Valve). Relacqurered, too. Auctioned on Ebay in September 2007.
1695 Bb L Silver RonBryant 9/27/16 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
Refurbished and replated byIndependent Music Service in
Sherwood, AZ.
Info supplied byIndependent Music Service.
1700 Bb L Lacquer ArnettHoward 9/25/14 Resno Y Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Y Top
Solid Purchased from Jim Carpenter.
2000 Bb ML Lacquer CareyCox 9/8/17 Resno Y S
4 11/16" Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N BottomSolid Purchased used in 2017.
2006 Bb ML Lacquer GoodwillIndustries 1/22/16 Resno Y Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Top
Adjustable
2007 Bb ML Lacquer RandyMurphy 7/22/09 Resno Y S Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Bottom
Solid
Purchased in July 2009 fromBob Kivi, who'd purchased it
through an Ebay auction in 11/08.
2008 Bb ML Lacquer AlanLaschiver 3/4/11 Resno Y S S Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Bottom
Solid
Originally lacquer; had been silverplated; has been restored to lacquer
& PVA done by Doctor Valve.Purchased from Russ DiGate in 2010.
2015 Bb ML Lacquer NickCaselli 7/18/06 Resno Y S S Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Top
Adjustable Refinished @1980. Purchased by Eugene Casellion 5/20/46 for $208.50.
2018 Bb ML Brass GerryMitrenga 3/31/12 Originally lacquered.
Originally owned by his uncle,who bought it from Elden Benge
after World War II.
2027 Bb ML Silver JoeIngram 11/17/08 Resno Y S
4 5/8" Vertical BENGE None BottomSolid
2039 Bb ML Lacquer JeanneMcHale 3/11/15 Resno Y Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Bottom
Solid Inherited from her uncle, Fred Muller.
2040 Bb ML Lacquer LarryCrowder 4/15/10 Resno Y S None 2 braces Y Brass N None (!) No 1st saddle or 3rd slide ring!
Purchased in Wichita in 2001.Later traded for a CG Benge.
The 250th Chicago on the list!
2043 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 10/5/09 Resno Y Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N None (!) No 1st saddle or 3rd slide ring!
Relacquered.
2045 Bb ML Lacquer ChuckKleeberg 6/30/06 Resno Y L S Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y (Nickel) N Top
Adjustable
Silver plated & refurbished by Kanstul. Leadpipe and main tuning
slide replaced.
Purchased through an Ebay Auction.My guess is that Zig put nickel
tubes on the horn.
2051 Bb ML Brass RobbioStepan 2/10/08 Resno Y S
4 1/2" Rings Vertical BENGE None Y Brass Y BottomSolid
Refinished in raw brass with avery thin coating of lacquer.
Gold wash inside of bell.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2052 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 2/11/10 Resno Y Single
Line (*) Vertical None 2 braces Y Brass Y BottomSolid *Receiver replaced?
2055 Bb ML Lacquer BillPaukovitz 12/26/11 Resno Y S
3/4" * Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N BottomSolid The receiver is not original.
Purchased in December 2011 by BillPaukevitz from Ralph Pillar, Jr.,
whose dad (the original owner) played the horn at Steinmetz HS (Chicago) from 1946- 49. He kept the original receipt for $208.50, dated 7/8/46, which is now in BP's possession It came with a Chicago Benge
mouthpiece!
2057 Bb ML Lacquer KennethMuronaka 4/18/16 Resno Y S Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Bottom
Solid All the slide ends are nickel-plated. Purchased from Jeff Briddle;formerly owned by John W. Poor.
2060 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 8/19/14 Resno Y S Rings None 2 braces Y Brass N Bottom
Solid
2061 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 2/14/17 Resno Y Rings Vertical BENGE 2 braces Y Brass N Top
Adjustable
2062 Bb Lacquer EbayAuction 8/28/07 Rings Vertical BENGE Y N Bottom Sold on Ebay in May 2000.
2065 Bb Brass AaronGayman 1/8/09 * Receiver is missing; leadpipe is
damaged. Originally lacquered.Literally saved from the trash heap;
he found it at his local metal recyclers!
2069 Bb ML Lacquer TomTabachnick 10/3/17 Resno Y Vertical BENGE Y Bottom
Solid
Second owner; purchased used inSeptember 1957 from Beihoff Music
in Milwaukee, WI.
2080 Bb ML Lacquer BradGoode 8/20/07 Loaned to Ira Sullivan.
2086 DaveRogers 3/4/07 S Purchased from the
Hal Oringer collection.
2090 Bb ML Lacquer RickHowe 12/28/06 Resno Y S
4 5/8" S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Top
AdjustableFormerly owned byRonald Rombeau.
2102 Bb ML Lacquer FrankKaderabek 11/28/07 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable None Purchased from the original
owner, George Olisar.
2105 Bb ML Silver RichMerritt 9/13/13 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass Y BottomSolid None Purchased from a pawn shop.
2109 Bb ML Silver Anonymous 4/27/12 Resno Y DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Top
AdjustableOriginally lacquered; now
silver plated with gold trim.
Acquired in 2010; formerly ownedby Joe Stelitano, a Hollywood
trumpeter.
2121 Bb ML Lacquer RichardMason 12/13/14 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable
2124 Bb ML Lacquer RalphWetzstein 3/12/09 Resno Y Double
Lines BENGE None 2 braces Relacquered by Anderson Plating. Purchased new in 1946.
2131 Bb ML Lacquer AlanLaschiver 3/21/10 Resno Y Double
Lines Y Brass N BottomSolid
Refurbished by Kanstul.Leadpipe replaced, incorrect tubing
replaced; relacquered.
Purchased from Thompson Musicin January 2010.
2132 Bb ML Gold BetteEilers 3/13/08 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N BottomSolid
Bought from Mrs. Schilkeafter Renold's death.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2133 Bb ML Silver WaltWadenius 6/29/09 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Purchased used in 1970 from aformer lead player for Ray Charles.
2143 Bb MartyGomez 11/8/07 Purchased used in 1965/66.
2145 Bb ML Silver GregUrsitti 2/26/16 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable
Originally lacquered; silverplated in the 1980s.
Purchased by GU's father, Charles Ursitti, through his teacher atVanderCook College in the
late 1940s.
2146 Bb ML Lacquer GregPalmer 9/30/13 Y Bottom
Solid Relacquered along the way.
2150 Bb Lacquer RonWestfall 7/21/17
2152 Bb MikeCavan 2/11/11 Resno
Originally owned by his father,Jack Cavan, who was a studio
musician/bandleader in Chicago.
2159 Bb ML Silver Frank Kaderabek 11/28/07 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y BottomSolid
Brace from bell to 2nd valveremoved; patches on the 2nd slide& on the bell next to the valves.
In beautiful shape; reconditionedby Joe Summerhill; purchased
from George Olisar.
2161 Bb ML Lacquer MaureenMarcil 10/28/15 Resno Y S Vertical BENGE 2 braces Y Brass N Bottom
SolidPurchased used in 2015 by a
friend of hers.
2162 Bb ML Lacquer AneelSoomary 3/27/08 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable
Purchased from Ebayin March 2008.
2169 Bb Lacquer EldonEngle 10/28/07
Purchased new in 1947; sold threeyears later. The case arrivedtwo months after the horn.
2175 Bb ML.458 Lacquer Fred Cirksena 1/9/07 Resno Y S
4 5/8"S
3/4" * Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable
Receiver/leadpipe are one piece.Receiver has a single line. Patch
under bell near the 3rd valve.
Sold by Ryan Zoghlin in 2004.Purchased by FC 1/07.
2179 Bb ML Lacquer BradWhite 10/22/10 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical None 2 braces Y N TopAdjustable
Purchased in 2010 from the originalowner, Julio Saviano.
2184 Bb RickHomer 1/11/17 Sent to Charlie Melk for
restoration & repair.Formerly owned by Ray Sprinkle,
who was the 2nd owner of the horn.
2186 Bb ML.460 Brass Randall
Dalton 6/10/15 Resno Y S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N Top
AdjustableRestoration by Del Quadro.
Originally lacquered.
Purchased through MichaelDel Quadro; formerly owned
by David Farias.
2192 Bb ML Lacquer David Summer 4/4/06 Resno Y L S Single
Line Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N TopAdjustable
He had it silver plated.Receiver replaced?
Bought from his teacher, MikeSavits @1972. Savits bought it
from a retired player.
2201 Bb ML.460 Silver Larry
Momorella 2/7/07 Resno Y S4 5/8" L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass Y BottomSolid
Originally lacquered?There are a number ofpatches on the horn.
Purchased used in 1965from Evan Solot.
2202 Bb ML Lacquer DickHamilton 6/30/07 None. Any necessary repair
work was done by Carl Geyer.
Betty O'Hara purchased it new in1946 for $225. She selected it
from four trumpets. Her husband,Barrett, loaned it to DH in 2007.
2205 Bb ML Silver BradleyHughes 1/2/17 Resno Y S
4 5/8"S
3/4"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Top
Adjustable
Bought through his first teacher,Arnold Jacobs. BH's mother was
a friend of Mrs. Jacobs.
2206 Bb ML Lacquer VinceDiMartino 3/14/16 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable
It has an extra tuning slide: a Benge-made Bb/A slide
with a rotor.
Purchased from Bill Karow in March2016; BK purchased it through
Ebay in December 2015.
2212 Bb Lacquer DennisMonk 2/1/18 Y Brass N Top
Adjustable3rd slide ring replaced. Receiver
likely replaced along the way.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2220 Bb ML Lacquer JohnDauterive 9/12/12 Resno Y S Double
Lines None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable None.
Originally owned by New Orleanstrumpeter Joseph E. Lewis, whopurchased it from Elden Benge.Professor Lewis played with theShrine Band and donated it to
the band. JD's mother purchased itfrom the leader of the band in 1951.
2223 Bb ML Lacquer MichaelSchmidt 3/17/11 Resno Y None * Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N Top
Adjustable
This horn has a "Dizzy-style"Chicago bell. The receiver has
been replaced.Restored by Mark Metzler.
Purchased from Ebay inFebruary 2010.
2228 Bb ML Lacquer Tom Flanigan 5/1/06 Resno Y S L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Bottom
Solid None.Given to TF by the original owner, Frank Loh, with the original 1947
letter & envelope.
2233 Bb ML Lacquer Douglas J.Hughes 3/22/10 Resno Y S
4 5/8"S
3/4"DoubleLines Vertical None
(worn off?) None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable
Relacquered, and new felts addedin 2004.
Purchased from Bob Arnold in 2004.Originally owned by Conrad Gozzo, sold by CG to Jake Gareheim, whoplayed it for several years before
selling it to Bob Arnold.
2235 Bb ML Lacquer AlexSiksay 10/24/15 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable Needs repairs. Purchased through Ebay in
October 2013 for $40!
2239 Bb DebLynch
Acquired from her grandfather,Dr. Walter (Bill) Bailey.
2240 Bb MLSilver(Gold Trim)
MickJones 9/26/09 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N TopAdjustable Purchased through Ebay on 9/19/09.
2244 Bb ML Lacquer GlennTews 4/18/08 Resno Y None Top
AdjustablePurchased used from his teacher,
Frank Anglund, in late 1951.
2248 Bb Estel DayWilliams 8/23/15 He went by Jim or Bill; info supplied
by his daughter, Dottie Vaughn.
2252 Bb ML Lacquer John Armstrong 1/9/07 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopAdjustable None Bought @1985 at a sidewalk sale
at Santucci's in Ottawa IL for $40.
2263 Bb ML Lacquer BernieMenaker 11/29/16 S
4 5/8"SingleLine Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N Top
AdjustableOriginal owner. Info supplied by
his son, Mark.
2266 Bb NeilBarlow 10/28/17
2276 BillMorris 6/4/07 Purchased used in Chicago
in 1949.
2285 C ML Silver RichardOliver 2/18/07 Resno Y S Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N Top
Solid
Cut tuning slide? Replaced bell?I believe this is a Bb cut down
to a C. It has a French bell.
Formerly owned by David Kuehn/Buffalo Phil. & then Jon Nelson.
Purchased from Steve Dillard.It has the latest exampleof the old finger hook.
2290 Bb ML HerbAlpert 3/1/10 Sold to HA in 1990 by
Robb Stewart.
2292 Bb Lacquer EbayAuction 3/31/18 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None N
2299 Bb JackZika 5/20/16 Y It came with a Chicago Benge
mouthpiece.
2304 Bb ML Silver EbayAuction 8/21/12 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N TopSolid
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2305 Bb ML SilverMusical
InstrumentCity.com
1/8/15 Resno Y DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Top
Solid Silver plated in 2010.
2308 Bb HowardWhitney 5/5/10 The horn has been relacquered.
Purcheased from Elden Bengeby his father, who also studied
with Benge..
2313 Bb Lacquer HowieSchneider 11/19/12 Resno Y
Purchased @2009 from Ted Bowman.(jazz trumpeter with the Jan Garber
Orchestra in the 1950s & 1960s)
2315 Bb ML Lacquer AlanLaschiver 6/28/06 Resno Y L S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Top Overhauled and relacqueredby Kanstul. Still has original case.
2317 Bb ML Silver RosalindBennett 4/3/12 Overhauled @2001. Originally owned by RB's father,
Bruce Bennett.
2318 Bb Lacquer Speers M.Crumrine 11/12/14 Relacquered twice along the way.
Original owner; his teacher in Memphis, Arnold Battaglini (Arnie Battle) purchased it directly from
Elden Benge in the spring of 1948.
2319 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Sabine
Klaus 1/13/06 Resno Y S L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N Top
Solid
Part of the Utley Collection,National Music Museum, Univ. ofSouth Dakota; formerly owned byVince DiMartino. It has the earliest
example of the new finger hook.
2324 Bb ML Lacquer VinceDiMartino 1/5/16 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N TopSolid
Purchased from Michael Del Quadroin 2015.
2325 Bb DavidCox 7/9/07 Purchased used in 1952.
2331 Bb ML Gold RalphMullins 4/28/06
2334 Bb ML.460 Gold Burt
Tobias 1/7/06 Resno Y S S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y (Y) Top
Solid 1st trigger added
2340 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 5/14/09 Resno Y Single
Line Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N TopSolid
2357 TomDumas 2/18/07
2358 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 5/30/17 Resno Y S Single
Line Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Brass N TopSolid
2359 Bb ML Silver ChuckWilliams 6/24/17 Purchased from Robb Stewart
in 1991.
2360 Bb ML RobbStewart 3/1/10 Originally owned by Tommy Jones;
sold years ago by Robb Stewart.
2364 Bb ML.462 Silver Jeff
Briddle 2/3/18 Resno Y S S Single Line Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Nickel! Original Trigger?
TopSolid
Formerly owned by Fred Cirksena,who purchased it through
an Ebay Auction prior to 2006.
2367 Bb ML Lacquer RandyMurphy 1/13/10 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopSolid None Purchased from Craig Mitchell.
2371 Bb ML Silver LionelEmde 3/16/11 Resno Y S Single
Line Vertical BENGE None N Receiver replaced with a Burbank?
2372 Bb ML Silver JonPankin 6/6/06 Resno Y Vertical BENGE None Y Brass N Top This instrument is in
severe disrepair.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2374 Bb ML Lacquer SteveRobinett 2/2/06 Resno Y S S * Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y N Top
Solid
The receiver has been replacedwith a Burbank; valves have
been replated.
2384 Bb Silver RonLipka 12/13/06 Resno Y 2 braces Brass Y Top
Solid
Originally lacquered; overhauledand silver plated by Benge in Burbank (late '60s-early '70s).
Spring trigger replaced with 1st valve saddle.
Bought from Elden Benge inFebruary, 1953. Was probably
made a few years earlier.
2392 Bb ML Silver AnneGuertin 7/29/10 Horn has some patches.
Owned by Anne's husband, the lateVerne Dixon Guertin, who played in
Las Vegas and Los Angeles.
2403 Bb ML Lacquer AlbertForcucci 10/11/06 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical None (!) None Y Brass N TopSolid
Studied w/Schilke, who broughthim to Benge's studio in @1949.
Original owner.
2405 Bb TonyPrincipali 9/18/06 Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
2407 Bb ML Lacquer ForrestBuchtel 9/29/12 Resno Y S * Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N Top
Solid Receiver replaced with a Burbank?
2411 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Guido
Gonzalez 1/5/16 Resno Y The instrument has specialengraving.
Given to GG by Phil Gilbert's niece,Cynthia Gilbert Marshall, and herhusband, Steve Marshall, after PG
passed away on November 18, 2015.Previously owned by Lew Soloff,who traded it to PG for his Bach.
2417 Bb ML Lacquer WaltTessier 11/24/11 Resno Y S
4 5/8" Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass N TopSolid
Reconditioned @10 years ago inIndianapolis. Some tubing was
replaced, valves replated and hornrelacquered.
Purchased used in the 1950s from astudent at Louisiana State University.
2422 Bb ML Lacquer GeorgeDelanoy 2/7/15
Original owner, purchased in 1949when he was studying with Harry
Glantz.
2425 Bb ML Silver TracyBush 8/29/09 Resno Y Purchased used @1986 through her
teacher, Larry Skinner.
2426 Bb ML Silver DonaldMaddox 1/7/14 Resno Y S
4 5/8"S
3/4"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces Y Brass Y Top
Solid
Silver plating is VERY good.Engraving is very sharp, but
plating is too good to be original. 1st slide trigger looks similar to Burbank style, so this may be a
later addition.
Purchased in December 2013 fromClay Collins, who purchased it fromthe estate of a long time Chicago area
player. Has a Quick Change to Astop rod mechanism on the tuning
slide. It may be original to the horn.
2428 Bb ML Lacquer DaveMessier 1/28/12 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None N TopSolid
Purchased in 2009 from the family ofDr. Herbert Schultz, Jr., who passed
away @2006.DM was his former student.
2429 C ML.460 Silver Michael
Lill 12/29/05 Resno Y S S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y Top
Solid
2431 C ML Silver GeorgeLyman 6/2/18 Resno Y S S * Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Y Top
SolidReceiver replaced along the
way; leadpipe possibly replaced.
2436 Bb ML Lacquer RandyMurphy 1/13/10 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N N TopSolid
Purchased through anEbay auction in January 2010.
2438 Bb ML Lacquer JoeLill 9/18/07 Resno Y S S * Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y Top
SolidBurbank Benge leadpipe &
receiver put on by Joe Summerhill.Purchased from Bette Eilers
in September 2007.
2445 Bb DanTomasek 9/18/06 Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2447 Bb Lacquer BobGreen 9/14/11
2450 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 10/13/15 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical None 2 braces N N TopSolid
2454 Bb M Lacquer SandyCraig 3/16/07 Resno Y S
4 9/16"S
3/4" * Vertical BENGE Bell 2 braces N Brass N TopSolid
Receiver replaced by anon-Benge part; will be
replaced with an original.
Purchased from John Worley,who bought it from Ebay in
March 2006. The M is under theBENGE logo on the 2nd valve.
2455 Bb JimRobinson 9/18/06 Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
2459 C ML Silver BoydeHood 5/30/11 * * S
4 5/8" S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Y Top
SolidThe original bell was replaced with
a Burbank bell. (no staff logo) Originally owned by Bernie Adelstein.
2460 C ML Lacquer AnnieLemieux 12/30/08 Resno Y S
4 9/16" S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y Top
Solid
Purchased through Albert Hood/Baltimore Brass in December 2008.
The earliest "French bell" so far.
2461 C ML Silver RandyMurphy 12/21/10 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Y TopSolid Originally lacquered? Purchased from Dennis Sackman
in 2010. It has a "French" bell.
2464 C ML Silver RussDiGate 10/20/06 Resno Y L S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y TopSolid
Restored by Steve Winans.(Doctor Valve)
It has an "Orchestra" bell; purchasedfrom Andrew Chung; formerly
owned by a member of theDetroit Sym. Orch.?
2465 C ML Lacquer PaulaAyers 12/1/13 * * LA
3X* * DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y Top
Solid
It originally had an "Orchestra"bell (not the French); Pierson
DeJager replaced it with an LA 3X.
Purchased by Pierson DeJager from Clayton Moore, the original owner,@1949. He had a July 1949 letter
from Elden Benge detailing overhaul.Pierson left the horn to PA.
2466 C ML Lacquer SidneyMear 7/1/11 Resno N Burbank
2X* L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y Top
Solid
Originally had a French bell;SM replaced it in the early
'60s with a 2X. 2X is stampedon the ferrule.
He wanted a bigger sound, and theFrench bell didn't hold mutes well. All
the Howard Hanson Eastmanrecordings were made with the
original bell.
2467 C Silver RobbStewart 3/6/06 Sold to John Shepherd
in March 1982.
2470 D ML Lacquer EldonLehman 3/14/08 Resno Y S
4 3/8"S
3/4"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y Top
Solid1st valve saddle added.
Overhauled & relacquered.
Purchased used in 1954 for $150;originally owned by the Toronto
Symphony Orchestra.
2472 D ML Lacquer CarolynThibideau 4/29/06 Resno Y S
4 1/2" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None Benge N Brass Trigger Top
SolidNot an alteration, but this horn did
not come with an Eb slide.
Purchased from William Vincent,one of the teachers of RamonParcells of the Detroit S.O.
2490 Bb ML.460 Silver Jeff
Martin 3/12/07 Resno Y S L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N Top
Solid Overhauled by Larry Corneau.Formerly owned by
Lee Thornburg.Came with original case.
2493 Bb JayBurchak 3/11/17 Original owner, purchased in 1949
while in college.
2495 Bb ML Silver RogerTidaback 12/27/06 Resno Y S
4 5/8"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N Top
Solid
Originally lacquered.Overhauled/silverplated in 1973
by Schilke; leadpipe repairedin 2001 at the Brass Bow.
Original owner, purchased @1948through his teacher, Austyn
Edwards. (as in Edwards/Hovey)
2499 Bb ML Lacquer MichaelLill 12/11/05 Resno Y (L) * * Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass (Y) Top
Solid
* Kanstul leadpipe, a L Chicagobell (from #1178?),an added 1st slide
Purchased by Joe Lill fromPhil Winsor in the early 1980s.
2503 Cornet ML Lacquer DougMetzker 3/11/12 Resno Y Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N Top
AdjustableLong-model cornet;no shepherd's crook.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2506 Bb ML Silver DonWinters 12/22/06 Resno Y S
4 5/8" S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass Y Top
Adjustable
Originally lacquered; silverplated by Anderson Plating,Valves were also replated.
Purchased through anEbay auction.
2507 Cornet ML Lacquer NormanGardner 1/10/07 Resno Y L S Rings Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N Top
Adjustable .
Purchased @1950 fromhis teacher, Leon Rapier,
the probable original owner.It has a shepherd's crook.
2508 Bb BillyElliers 4/15/11
Purchased used in 1970 from anotherstudent at University of New Orleans,
for $150.
2512 Bb ML Silver KenJohnson 1/21/17 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None 2 braces N Brass N TopSolid
Byron Autrey replaced theleadpipe and silverplated
the originally lacquered horn.
Purchased from the estate of histeacher, Roger Thorstenberg, whopurchased it used while a member
of the Detroit Concert Band.
2515 Bb ML Silver RoyCaton 12/17/15 Resno Y Single
Line Vertical BENGE Leadpipe 2 braces N Y TopSolid Receiver replaced with a Burbank.
Submitted by his son, Steve Caton.Roy played in the Third Herd and
was a member of the Wrecking Crew.
2521 Bb ML Lacquer CarlHalen 4/10/07 Leadpipe 2 braces Relacquered along the way.
Purchased new in 1948/49 for$228 through his teacher,
Herb Tiemeyer (Cincinnati Sym.)
2524 Bb NL Lacquer EbayAuction 3/10/17 Resno S
4 1/2"
2529 Bb ML Silver RalphMullins 8/29/07 Resno Y L Vertical BENGE Leadpipe 2 braces N Brass Y Top
Solid Ist saddle added; replated. Formerly owned byHarry Pierce.
2532 Bb ML Lacquer DavidPeters 11/10/11 Resno Y L
4 3/4"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
Solid
None; the horn is in original,pristine condition. Some felt padshave been replaced, but that's all!
DP's mother, Betty Fischbach, gotthe new horn for Christmas 1947. Herfather bought it on December 3, 1947.
2537 Bb ML Silver EbayAuction 1/22/14 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N N TopSolid
Bore stamp is lower on the 2ndcasing then usual.
2540 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Ebay
Auction 6/29/06 L Amado water key on 3rd slide.
2550 Bb Silver DaveNorman 12/7/07 Double
LinesTop
AdjustableRefurbished and replated at
Cambrass in 2007.
2551 Bb ML.460 Silver Charles
Shue 3/2/15 Resno Y * Vertical BENGE None Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Leadpipe had red rot and theprevious owner had it replaced
in the 1970s with a Schilke reversepipe. The tuning slide and receiver
are also Schilke parts.The workwas done by Renold Schilke
himself. The trumpet and valveswere replated by Anderson Plating.
2565 D/Eb* ML Lacquer JimPolivka 1/20/14 Resno Y Vertical Leadpipe N Top
Solid
*Eb slide and new leadpipe weremade at the Burbank factory
in the 1960s.
Purchased from Clement Volpe(Minneapolis Sym.) in 1966. Volpe
purchased it through Bernie Adelstein,Benge's agent in the area.
2573 Eb ML Lacquer RandyMurphy 10/15/14 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
Refurbished by Steve Winans(Doctor Valve).
Purchased from Steve Dillard (HornTrader.com.) in 2014.
Previously owned by Boyde Hood.
2575 D/Eb ML Lacquer SidneyMear 10/9/11 Resno Y S
4 1/2" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid 1st trigger added.
Purchased late 1949/early 1950 bySidney Mear. Low C on Eb side was
sharp but manageable for Sidney,but not his son, David.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2593 Bb ML.458 Silver Jay
Burchak 9/20/13 Originally lacquered. Silver-platedby Bliss Music in Portland, OR.
Original owner; purchased in 1949while a student at the University ofMontana. His teacher was Dr. Daryl
Gibson.
2595 Bb ML Silver EdPollock 5/3/12 Originally lacquered; silver
plated by Anderson Plating.Original owner; purchased in 1948
through his teacher.
2600 Bb ML Lacquer J. RobertHanson 4/22/07 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Purchased new from the NelsVogel Co. in 1949; sold to a
student at Univ. of Iowa in 1952.
2606 Bb ML Silver BillBowman 12/8/07 Resno Y L
4 3/4" Rings (!) Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge Brass N BottomSolid
Either the original receiver wasreplaced with an earlier Chicago
model or Benge put it on.
Formerly owned by Larry Gianni.Purchased through Ferguson
Music.
2610 C ML Silver RobbStewart 5/30/11 * * *
Tunable LA bell (no front or backbraces); it has a Bach-type
receiver, and a Malone leadpipe.
Purchased in 2009.from the original owner, Art Depew.
2614 C ML Lacquer RyanZoghlin 1/9/06 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
A French model bell.The 2nd slide comes straight
out, with two nibs.
2615 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 1/14/10 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Benge N N TopSolid
2619 C ML Lacquer FredCirksena 8/6/06 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid A French model bell.
2624 D/Eb Silver* BruceStanly 10/25/14 Y
When overhauled and replated byCharlie Melk it also received a
gold-washed bell. 1st slide saddleinstalled by Ken McGee
(Woodbridge, VA).
Purchased from Schilke MusicProducts.
2631 Bb ML Silver HankMitchell 11/11/06 The silver plating was original.
Purchased for $216 in 1945;he picked the bell from arack hanging on the wall.
2632 Bb ML Lacquer Warren H.Balfour 1/3/13 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe N Brass * TopSolid
Overhauled by Elden Benge in Burbank. New bell & leadpipe
installed in Fullerton in the mid-1970s. Olds Mendez springtrigger added to the 1st slide
in the 1980s.
Purchased in 1955 from a Mr.Locicero, who purchased it fromthe LA Police Dept. Band whichhad bought 6 Chicago Benges.
Horn has been gifted to Bob Bennett.(Woody Herman/Artie Shaw/
Brian Setzer)
2654 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 5/31/12 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid Patch on the leadpipe.
2659 MarloweMogul 4/14/08 Purchased from his teacher,
Harold (Pappy) Mitchell.
2685 Bb ML Lacquer AlanLaschiver 3/21/10 Resno Y S
4 5/8" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
Solid
Refurbished in 2008 by Kanstul.Leadpipe replaced; valves rebuilt;
relacquered.
Purchased by Jeff Dean through anEbay auction in 11/06. Purchased
by AL in January 2010.
2693 C GordonBowman 1/11/07
2704 Bb AnthonyPrincipali 9/14/16
Originally purchased directly fromBenge by his father, who played for
the Woody Herman Orchestra..
2711 Cornet ML Lacquer RyanZoghlin 1/9/06 Resno Y L L Rings Vertical BENGE None Benge N Brass Y Top
Adjustable It has a shepherd's crook.
2727 Bb SidLasaine 1/16/07
Valve job done by Elden Bengefor $30.00 in 1957. Patch put on
leadpipe & horn silver platedby Burt Herrick @1960.
Purchased through Frank Anglundin January 1950, for $232.50, incl.case and an Anglund mouthpiece.
Sold to a student @1970.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2735 Bb ML Silver Mark A.Wood 4/28/15 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N * Top *1st slide ring added Purchased in 2015 from Rob Parton, who purchased it from Wayne Tanabe.
2738 Bb ML Lacquer TomHoughton 11/20/06 Resno Y
Chosen from three horns andpurchased in 1950 from EB at
the Morse Ave. location.
2755 Bb ML Lacquer JohnTavlin 9/13/06 Resno Y S S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid The horn has been gold-plated.
Purchased from the originalowner's family, who'd bought itfrom Elden Benge in 1949-50.
2762 Bb ML Silver GordonBird 3/25/08 Resno Y Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Top
Adjustable
Purchased in late 1949 or early1950 through his teacher,
Harry Glantz, for $250. GB got to pick from three new horns that had
been shipped to Glantz.
2764 Bb ML Lacquer LaurieMarkovich 7/30/08 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Formerly owned by LM's late father,Jesse Day, who had owned it since
at least 7/24/52.
2768 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 6/30/13 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid Relacquered.
2775 Bb ML Silver* BruceStanly 10/25/14 L
When overhauled and replated by Charlie Melk in summer 2014 italso received a gold-washed bell.
Acquired in June 2014 from thedaughter of the original owner,Clarence Berlin, who played 1st
trumpet for the WTMJ RadioOrchestra (Milwaukee) from 1929-1955. It is said that he had a handin designing the Benge trumpet.
2781 Bb M.450 Lacquer Wayne
Wright 8/10/14 Resno Y S4 5/8" S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
The bore measures smaller thannormal; generally @.450
A special order?
Purchased in 2009 from DavidBrowne/Anaheim Band. Previously
owned by Dan O'Donnell, who foundit in a pawnshop, where the tag said,
"Made in 1950."50% original lacquer; perfect valves.
2790 Bb ML Brass DaveNorman 1/7/14 Resno Y L * Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y* Top
Solid
Lacquer removed. Receiverreplaced with a CG Kanstul.
1st slide saddle added.
2791 Bb ML Silver RobbStewart 3/6/06 Sold to John Surgener
in July 2001.
2792 Bb Silver wallysmusic.com 10/23/09 Y Top
SolidRefinished with a satin
silver finish.Offered for sale on the Wally's Music
website. (Oregon City, OR)
2794 Bb ML Lacquer RogerTrigg 9/30/08 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge Refinished in the early 1970s.Purchased by RT's father in the early
1950s. Possibly owned byHarry James before that.
2801 – – Brass RyanZoghlin 1/9/06 – – – – – Vertical BENGE None Benge N – Y None This is just a valve section, given
to RZ by Zig Kanstul.
2803 Bb ML Silver Anonymous 4/27/12 Resno Y S L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
Solid
Originally brass, replated in silverwith gold trim. One inner slide was
replaced with a nickel slide.
Purchased from Chuck Kleeberg, who purchased it through an Ebay Auction.
2807 Bb ML Silver JeffMartin 5/13/07 Resno Y Single
Line (*) Y *Depew removed the 3rd slidering. There are some patches
on the horn. Receiver replaced?
Purchased in March 2007from Art Depew.
2815 Bb ML Lacquer DavidBilger 10/23/06 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
DB's parents purchasedit for him in 1976.
2817 Bb ML Lacquer GregRipley 7/3/08 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Refurbished and relacquered in1958 at Sherman Clay in Seattle.
Purchased in 1950 from theoriginal owner, Walter L.Birkeland, who bought it
from EB @1950.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2818 Bb ML Lacquer RobParton 1/30/10 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid 1st saddle added in December 2009. Purchased used in December 2009.
2819 Bb ML Lacquer MartySchwartz 6/30/12 Resno Y S
4 5/8" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
Solid Restoration by Kanstul.
2821 Bb ML Lacquer BillyAdams III 7/29/14 Resno Y Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge Brass N Top
Solid
His father, Billy Adams, Jr., was theoriginal owner; purchased @1950
from EB (Morse Ave) whileon the road with Stan Kenton.
2827 Bb ML TomBenuscak 7/15/18 His father, Tom Benuscak from
Nyack, NY, was the original owner.
2830 Bb ClaytonCrawford 7/15/09 Purchased used in 1962 for $175.
2834 Bb ML Gold MichaelSachs 5/28/10 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge Brass Y TopSolid In original condition.
Purchased in 1994 from the originalowner, Rudy Scaffidi, who was a
Benge dealer in Cleveland in the '40s,'50s and '60s. Benge gave him thegold-plated horn in appreciaton.
2835 Bb ML DonAldrich 6/14/06
2836 Bb ML Lacquer AndyBetts 3/27/15 Resno Y S
4 5/8"L
1 1/8"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid
Purchased in 2015 from the originalowner, Richard Oster, who purchasedit @1951 through his teacher, Louis
Davidson.
2839 Bb RobPaulavina 6/19/14
2845 Bb Frank A.DeFilippo 9/18/06
A custom-made horn.Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
2846 Bb ML Lacquer NasonDonahue 11/6/09 Resno Y L Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
Solid Purchased used through Ebay.
2847 Bb ML Andrew/DonHofmeister 8/6/10 Resno Y Rebuilt @2000 by Dick Akright.
Received from his father, Don, who isthe original owner. Purchased new in1951/52 from Jim Mackay (2nd tpt.
Minneapolis Sym.) in trade for a Bach Strad cornet.
2848 Bb ML Lacquer DaveMessier 1/28/12 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical None Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Purchased through an Ebay auction inJanuary 2012. DM is the third owner.
2852 Bb ML Lacquer AnneGuertin 2/28/11 Resno Y Vertical Benge N Brass N Top
Adjustable
Owned by Anne's husband, the lateVerne Dixon Guertin, who played in
Las Vegas and Los Angeles.
2862 C ML Brass BoudewijnSchokker 7/13/10 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
Originally lacquered, now rawbrass. 2nd valve cap not original.
Inscribed LSU 163484 YC-2 at thebottom of the 2nd valve. Originallyowned by Louisiana St. University?
It has a French model bell.
2869 Bb ML VinceDiMartino 1/5/16 Formerly owned by his teacher,
the late Ed Delulio.
2870 Bb ML Gold Mr. Kay 12/29/05 Resno Y S DoubleLines Benge N N Top
SolidRestored andgold-plated
musical-instrument-repair-shop.com
2872 Bb ML Lacquer PaulSonntag 6/22/17 Resno Y L S Single
Line (*) Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Refinished/restored at some point.Patches on leadpipe & bell.
The 2nd slide may have beenreplaced along the way. The
receiver was replaced.
Purchased from the estate of aSeattle-area collector.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2879 Bb ML Lacquer TedHansen 2/2/13 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N N TopSolid
Original owner, purchased in 1949/50.His teacher, Vincent Neff, took himand his parents to Benge's house,where they picked out this horn.
2880 Bb ML Silver TomEvans 12/10/14 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid Purchased from Ryan Zoghlin @2010.
2882 Bb ML NormanLevine 1/10/14
Originally owned by Harry Glantz,who gave it to Charlie Gouse.
Ed Fuchs (Fox) acquired the hornfrom Gouse.
2885 Bb ML Lacquer JeromeCarrera 9/19/06 Resno Y S L Single
Line (*) Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
The valves caps have beenchanged; The receiver is a
Burbank; it's possible that theentire leadpipe was changed.
2889 Bb ML Lacquer CharlesCouch 1/27/09 Resno Y S
4 5/8"Single
Line (*) Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
1st saddle added. Amado water keyadded to the 3rd slide. Receiverlikely replaced with a Burbank.
Purchased in January 2009.
2890 Bb ML Lacquer LarryCrowder 2/10/16 Resno Y S
4 5/8" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None Benge N Brass N Top
SolidRelacquered along the way.
Leadpipe replaced due to red rot. Purchased from Quinn the Eskimo.
2894 Bb ML JonNelson 2/8/14
2896 Bb ML Lacquer KenKingon 9/15/14 Resno Y S
4 5/8" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
SolidRelacquered in 2008 by
Dan Oberloh in Seattle, WA.
Formerly owned by Jay Compton;inherited by Mike Perrone's wife,
Lilo Lorentz. Purchased from themby Jeff Briddle, who sold it to Robert
Abraham, who sold it to KK.
2903 Bb ML Lacquer SheldonMehr 11/29/06
Purchased from EB for $210 atthe Morse Avenue location.
Stolen in Los Angeles @1953.
2904 Bb ML Lacquer EbayAuction 2/10/18 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid Valves rebulit at Anderson's.
2906 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Scott
Apelgren 2/16/15 Resno Y DoubleLines Vertical Leadpipe Benge Brass
Overhauled at least twice along theway. It has two leadpipe patches,a 3rd slide patch, two bell patches
and a sleeve right after thereceiver.
Purchased in in 2014; formerlyowned by Johnny Bello.
2907 Bb ML.462 Silver Randy
Jones 8/29/07 Purchased from Ralph Mullins.
2918 Bb Silver DavidCox 7/10/07 *Y (!) Double
Lines Vertical N Brass N TopSolid
*Original bell replaced with aBurbank bell with a staff logo!Refurbished by Byron Autrey.
2919 Bb ML Lacquer DocBosworth 4/8/12 Resno Y S
4 5/8" Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid None
Original owner; purchased in 1951through Steffen Hansen of the
Oklahoma City S.O.
2921 Bb ML EbayAuction 6/29/06 * N N Top
Solid
No slide guide on the bottom.Burbank bell? Receiver
likely replaced.
2922 Bb ML Gold RobbStewart 3/10/06 Sold to Donna Isham in 1995
as a birthday present for Mark.
2923 Bb ML Silver RimKasputis 8/13/09 Resno Y Single
Line Vertical Benge N Brass Y TopSolid Receiver replaced with a Burbank?
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
2925 Bb ML Silver BenoitGlazer 6/14/12 Resno Y S
4 5/8" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid
Refurbished by Charlie Melk.The horn has been replated; the
valves, too.
2928 Bb ML Lacquer RodRichardson 2/6/08 Double
Lines
Formerly owned by Mick O'Shea.Sold by Robb Stewart to Steve
Dillard in June 1999.
2930 Bb L Lacquer RickBarcal 6/11/06 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical Leadpipe Benge N Y TopSolid Relacquered
A custom large bore, out ofsequence with the normal L horns.Purchased from the original owner,
Hans Kelter.
2937 Bb StevenRosen 9/25/11 Resno Y Leadpipe likely replaced.
The original owner was his father,Jerry Rosen, (Chicago Theater) whowas given the horn by Elden Benge.
2946 Bb ML Lacquer DanHaverstock 4/25/08 Resno Y L L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid Relacquered Purchased from Dennis Sackman
in October 2007.
2948 Bb ML VernaYoung 5/20/18 Resno Y Leadpipe
Purchased used in 1967/68 from herteacher at Bowling Green,
Anthony Roberts.
2952 Bb ML Silver RichardFreeman 11/4/08 Resno Y S
3/4"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Benge N Brass N Top
Solid
Leadpipe modified by EldenBenge in Burbank in 1960,
shortly after RF purchased it.
Purchased used in 1960 fromClayton Cash in LA who bought
it from Conrad Gozzo.
2961 Bb ML Lacquer LarryZelek 7/3/06 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
2972 C ML Silver SteveLewis 8/17/06 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
Still has the originalbrown case.
2972 & 2974 had the sameoriginal owner; it's thought that
2973 is the matching Bb.This has a French bell.
2974 D ML Silver SteveLewis 8/17/06 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Both N TopSolid
Not an alteration, but the inner slides are nickel except for the
main tuning slide.
Both horns were purchased bySL @1986. They were formerly
owned by Bob Schreffler.
2977 C TomDenton 4/29/14 Double
Lines Y It has a Burbank bell.Purchased in the late 1970s from
Washington Music in DC. He alsohas a set of Bb slides for this trumpet.
2980 D/Eb ML Silver BillBrian 10/1/06 Resno Y S
4 1/2"L
1 1/4"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Plain* N Brass N Top
SolidOriginally lacquered.
*3rd valve brace replaced?
Purchased used from RenoldSchilke's shop on Washington
St. in Chicago; it was a trade-in.
2983 D/Eb ML.460 Silver Frank
Kaderabek 2/4/07 Resno Y S S DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None Benge N Brass * Top
Solid
Reynolds trigger put on later.Silver plated in the early '50s.
Schilke made the C slides.
Also has an Eb tuning slide &a set of C slides; Schilke's
measurements are said to havecome from this horn; RS boughtit from Benge, FK bought it fromRS in Oct 1953. The only D thatFK played in any of 5 orchestras.
2985 D/Eb MLSilver(Gold Trim)
JamesPriest 4/15/08 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Originally lacqured; replated withgold trim. Valves refurbishedby Steve Winans (Dr. Valve).
Purchased from Andrew Chung;originally owned by Ted Betts.(Rochester Phil.) It has both a
D slide and an Eb slide.
2988 Bb ML.460 Silver Blair A.
Raffel 8/6/13 Resno Y L4 3/4"
L1 1/8"
SingleLine Vertical BENGE None Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid
One patch on bell, one on the leadpipe and one where the bell
connects with the 1st valve casing.Receiver replaced with a
Burbank, I believe.
2993 Bb ML Lacquer E.W.Keller 4/1/10 Relacquered @1990.
Original owner, purchased in 1950through his teacher, William "Bill"Snyder, then Principal Trumpet of
the Oklahoma City Symphony.
3002 Bb ML Silver GreggAdams 1/2/08 * Single
Line Vertical BENGE None Benge Brass Y TopSolid
Bell replaced with a Burbank bell;the horn was run over by a car
while owned by Don Fagerquist.
Originally owned by DonFagerquist. Purchased by GA from
Ronnie Ossa in 1970.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
3003 Bb PeterMoss 5/10/18
Originally owned by Ray Triscariand passed on to Joe Triscari before
being acquired by PM.
3006 Bb ML Lacquer RoyCaton 12/17/15 Resno Y Single
Line Vertical Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid Receiver replaced with a Burbank?
Submitted by his sons, Steve & BruceCaton. Roy played in the Third Herdand was an original member of the
Wrecking Crew.
3013 Bb ML Silver DickHamilton 3/23/06 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE None Benge N N TopSolid
A patch was put on theleadpipe by Robb Stewart.
Formerly owned byDick Cary.
3116 Bb FrankSzabo 12/7/07 Top
Solid
3021 DaveRogers 3/4/07 Purchased from Dillon Music.
3024 Bb ML Gold JeffBriddle 7/2/10 Resno Y S L
1"SingleLine Vertical BENGE None Benge N * N Top
Solid
Beautifully refurbished, it has asingle line receiver and the inner
slide tubes are a mix of brass& nickel.
Purchased by JB in June 2010 fromLarry Woods, who purchased it from
Chuck Kleeberg in October 2008.
3031 Bb ML Silver CarolynThibideau 4/29/06 Resno Y L L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Silver plated in 1975; new leadpipe in 2005 due to deterioration; she
has the original pipe.
Acquired while in high school atInterlochen. Her teacher, RobertGrocock, knew Benge and made
the arrangements.
3034 Bb ML Silver SteveWinans 10/19/12 * * * L * Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid
Bell replaced with a Burbank 5X;receiver replaced with a Burbank,too. The original owner said that
the work was done by Elden Benge in Burbank.
Totally restored in 2012 by SWwith a Precision Valve Alignment.
Steve is also known as Doctor Valve.
3035 Bb ML Nickel? MichaelLill 12/19/05 Resno Y S Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N N Top Possibly replatedwith nickel?
3037 Bb FredFoeh 9/18/06 Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
3041 Bb ML Lacquer SamuelRisovich 11/14/17 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Restored by Charlie Melk.I'm not sure if this is an alteration,
but the 3rd valve is vented.
Purchased from the original owner, William C. Walters, on 11/27/10.
Originally purchased from Manny'sMusic (New York) @1950.
3051 Cornet ML Lacquer KennethAnderson 4/24/08 Resno
Original owner; his parentspurchased it for him in the early
1950s. No shepherd's crook.
3054 Bb Carl JosephLeon 12/11/07
Stolen from the original owner,CJL's father, Carlos Leon,
in California in 1965.
3055 Bb Hector R.Leon 12/11/07 Original owner and brother
of Carlos Leon.
3066 D/Eb ML Silver DonaldHood 3/2/17 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
Owned by the late Donald Hood,principal trumpet of Oklahoma City
Symphony. He was the original owner.
3069 D/Eb StephanJeandheur 9/18/06 Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
3077 Bb Lacquer BobScurio 5/9/07
Original owner, purchasedfrom George Quinlan in 1951.The 200th Chicago on the list!
3086 Bb ML.460 Silver Derek
Sinex 2/27/07 Resno Y L4 3/4" L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid Originally lacquered
Originally purchased in 1951 byhis teacher, Donald Lee Tindall.DS purchased the horn after his
passing in August 2006.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
3088 Bb JohnLufburrow 5/17/00 Source: Pat Olguin's
Benge Guestbook
3091 Bb ML Lacquer RobbStewart 3/10/06 There are several patches
on this horn.
3096 Bb ML Silver FredCirksena 9/7/10 Resno Y S
4 5/8" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
SolidPurchased in September 2010 from
Music Go Round in Minnesota.
3099 Bb ML Silver ElliotTopper 7/30/09 N Originally lacquered, he had it
silver plated in 1961.Original owner; his parents bought
it for him in 1951.
3113 Bb ML Silver William M.Young 8/26/12 Resno Y S
4 5/8"L
1 1/8"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid
Patches in 1st & 3rd casings andon the bottom of the bell in front
of the 3rd casing. Also on the frontof the 3rd valve slide.
Bill is the 2nd owner; he purchased it@1964 from Jim Armstrong ofCleveland, OH. The horn was
purchased for Armstrong by his teacher, Louis Davidson(Cleveland Symphony).
3128 Bb ML Silver ChuckStine 3/14/06 Resno Y S S
5/8"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE None Benge N Y Top
Solid None Purchased from Bette Eilers.
3137 Bb ML Brass DaveNorman 9/7/13 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N N TopSolid Originally lacquered Purchased through Ebay in July 2013.
3141 Bb ML Silver DickBeauman 5/22/07 Reconditioned along
the way by a Mr. Slimak.
Purchased used in the late1950s while in the US MilitaryAcademy Band at West Point.
3147 Bb ML Silver MichaelGoldberg 11/6/17 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical Leadpipe Purchased through Ebayin November 2017.
3148 Bb ML Silver JohnOstman 2/21/15 Resno Y Vertical BENGE Purchased used when he was in high
school.
3149 Bb ML Silver EbayAuction 12/17/17 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
3156 Bb ML Lacquer ManuelSuarez 4/9/09 Purchased from a pawn shop in
Clearwater, FL @1992.
3165 Bb ML.460 Lacquer Max
Roberts 8/21/16 Resno Y S L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid None
Purchased from Joe Lill in August2016. JL purchased it from
North Park University @1990. On12/11/05 this became the first horn
entered into this database!
3166 Bb ML Lacquer GaryLeKander 5/19/16 Purchased used in April 2016.
3177 C CharlesMauger 9/18/06 Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
3178 Bb ML DickWilson 2/11/11 Leadpipe Purchased for him by his father
in the mid-1950s.
3184 D/Eb Silver DavidCox 7/10/07
It has both a D slide and an Eb slide.The 1st & 3rd valve slides haveengraved lines to show how far
to pull them for the D side.
3189 D/Eb ML Lacquer MarkLarsen 5/21/13 Bell replaced with a Burbank.
3191 C ML Lacquer EldonLehman 3/14/08 Resno Y S
4 5/8"L
1 1/8"DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid
Purchased used in 1956 for $135from George Anderson (Toronto
Symphony Orchestra).
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
3192 C CharleyKline 5/16/15 * Y
Bell replaced with an earlyBurbank bell, as it has the
staff logo.
Purchased used through his teacher @1962.
3196 Bb ML Silver RobSack 1/30/14
3206 Bb HerbAlpert 3/27/07 Original leadpipe was replaced. Source: repair records
of Bob Reeves
3208 Bb ML Silver RonModell 9/11/06 Resno Y Vertical BENGE Benge Y (!) Y Top
SolidOriginally lacquer. All patching
was done by Schilke.
Purchased from his uncle,Milt Davidson, in 1953 for $140Quote: "Best Benge Ever Made!"
3209 Bb ML SilverHoward(Hotsy)
Katz3/26/09
HK is the original owner; he was astudent of Frank Anglund and he
purchased #3209 in Chicago.
3210 Bb ML Lacquer RimKasputis 8/13/09 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical N Brass N TopSolid
Purchased through anEbay auction in 7/09.
3213 Bb ML Silver BobSwitzer 11/8/09 Originally lacquered; refurbished
by Kanstul in 2009.
3217 Bb ML Silver DaveKaiser 3/7/10 Resno Y Vertical Y Restored by Kanstul. 1st valve
saddle added by Wayne Tanabe. Purchased used on 11/21/01.
3221 ML LowellStevenson 9/18/06 Source: Jim Donaldson's
Benge Data Base
3225 Bb ML Lacquer MikeMattfield 4/26/08 Resno Y S
4 5/8"L
1 1/8"Single
Line (*) Vertical BENGE None Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Receiver replaced by Kanstul atthe Anaheim shop in 1975. It
was also relacquered at that time.
Purchased used from a San Antoniotrumpeter in 1971, who purchased it
new from Elden Benge @1951.
3232 Bb ML Silver TakaNumata 11/6/07 Resno Y L
4 3/4" L SingleLine (*) Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass * Top
Solid
Originally lacquered; 1st saddle ismissing, Receiver replaced?
Refurbished by Wayne Tanabe.
Purchased new by Chuck Stine in1952/53; sold to Juan Davila from
Puerto Rico.
3236 Bb ML Brass EbayAuction 8/4/13 Resno N* L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
*Bell replaced with anLA Benge 3 bell.
Formerly owned by Reunald Jonesof the Count Basie Orchestra.
3241 Bb ML Lacquer SteveDillard 3/27/14 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
3245 Bb ML Silver J. RobertHanson 4/22/07 Resno Y S
4 5/8" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
Solid
Originally lacquered; silverplated,2nd valve repaired & patch put onthe bell by Elden Benge in 1959.
Ordered new in late 1952. In1959 JRH went to the Burbank
shop with the intention of buyinga new horn; Elden liked the soundof 3245 more than the Burbanks.
3248 Bb ML Lacquer DavidPascua 1/13/11 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Restored in February 2010by Robb Stewart.
Purchased from Chuck Kleebergin April 2008.
3249 Bb TomDay 2/1/18
3250 Bb ML Gold DaveNorman 8/17/13 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N TopSolid
Originally lacquered.Refurbished by Crown Resources
Lab in NY.
Purchased through Ebay in August2013. Formerly owned by Paul
Lamos, who purchased it used in1961.
3251 Bb ML Silver RobbStewart 3/10/06 Sold to Sid Viles in 1996.
3254 Bb ML Silver SheldonMehr 11/29/06 Resno Y Originally lacquered; restored
and silverplated.
Purchased from Benge @1953 as areplacement for the stolen #2903.Picked from two horns by Robert
DuVall, teaching at UCLA.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
3255 Bb ML Lacquer DarrellDaude 7/8/10 Resno Y Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Y Top
SolidRescued in July 2010 from an antique
store in Fredrickberg, TX.
3264 Bb ML Gold AlejandroValcazar 3/19/18 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Y TopSolid
Originally silverplated; goldplatedin 1995 at Kanstul's. The originalowner asked the LA Benge peoplethe year of manufacture and they(mistakenly) said 1947, so he had
1947 stamped on the bell. The1947 was removed by Dr. Valvewhen the horn was overhauled,
with a fresh gold plating, in 2018.
Purchased in September 2017 fromMike Steffens, who purchased it in1986 from the original owner, whoowned a music store in Chicago in
the 1940-50's. The horn was wrappedin plastic and had never been sold,
so it was it pristine condition!
3266 Bb ML Lacquer StuBeltran 10/6/08 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Obtained the horn usedduring the mid-1960s.
3268 Bb ML Silver JoshLandress 3/18/14 Resno Y Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N N TopSolid Sold on Ebay in March 2014.
3287 Bb ML Lacquer KurtNelson 4/24/11 Resno Y S
4 5/8" 7/8" DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass N Top
Solid
KN's father, Robert Nelson, purchasedit in the early 1950s, while a student
at McPhale School of Music.
3289 Bb ML Silver PeterDeVincent 10/5/06 Resno Y Double
Lines
Originally lacquered; silver platedat Schilke c.1980. The bell andthe receiver each have a patch.
Purchased new in 1952 fromhis teacher, Frank Anglund.
(Benge's Chicago agent)
3311 Bb ML Lacquer IraSullivan 8/20/07 Refurbished by Bob Reeves.
Given to Ira Sullivan in 1956 byJack Six, who played bass for
Dave Brubeck.
3317 Bb ML Silver DaveMickley 5/26/11 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
Elden Benge soldered on a 1stvalve saddle and lacquered itwhen he picked up the horn.
The original owner, Eldon Engle,picked it up at the Morse Ave. house
6/14/53. EB said that it was oneof the last seven that he had. DMacquired it after Engle's passing.
3321 Bb ML Silver DickPrestage 5/29/06 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopIt's possible that the main tuningslide was a replacement or was
repaired; it has nickel inner slides.
Purchased from Steve Ward.Formerly owned by Ryan Zoghlin.
3327 Bb ML Lacquer JimTaylor 11/17/07 Resno Y Purchased new in the fall of 1953
through his teacher, Bill Adam.
3330 Bb Silver DonNovy 7/9/07 Resno Y
Stolen from DN; years later itshowed up at a repair place
where Tony Klatka acquired it.
3332 Bb ML Lacquer John M.Connelly 7/3/09 Resno Y Leadpipe None JC believes that his father was
the original owner.
3338 Bb ML Lacquer KimFinison 12/13/17 Resno Y S L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
Restored by John DudaNickel-silver patch on 2nd
slide; done by Benge?
Purchased in December 2017 fromPetter Utne Børrehaug, who obtainedit from John Duda, who first sold it toJohn Creed; who sold it back to John
Duda. Made for a CSO player?
3344 Bb ML Lacquer PaulNewton 9/17/14 Resno Y L Double
Lines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y TopSolid
Looks to have been relacqueredalong the way. Valve alignment
and rebuild by Charlie Melk.
Donated to a high school in Victoria,BC. Info originally supplied bySusan Dunlop of The Brass &
Woodwind Shop.
3345 Bb ML Lacquer DennisUmber 11/20/10 Resno Y S
4 5/8" L DoubleLines Vertical BENGE Leadpipe Benge N Brass Y Top
Solid None
Purchased new in 1953 by JerryGilbert through his teacher, Joe
Hruby. Sold on Ebay in Oct. 2007.Sold by DU in Fall 2010.
3346 Bb JosephMasin 3/10/10 Original owner; purchased while he
was at West Point.
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SerialNumber
Pitch
Bore:M,
ML,MLPor L
Finish SourceDate of
mostrecent info
Bell:(Resno
orHand)
Bell:StaffLogo
YorN
Bell:Size
S(4 5/8")
or L(4 3/4")
& Model
Bell:Flange
S(3/4")
orL
(1-1/8")
Receiver:SingleLine,
DoubleLines orDoubleRings
SerialNumber:Vertical
orHorizontal
Bengelogo on
bottom of2nd valve
casing
BoreMarkingLocation:leadpipe
side,bell sideor none
3rd SlideBrace:Benge logo,
2 bracesor
brass rod
Rings(Beads)
onTubes?(2nd,
for ex.)Y or N
Inside Slide
Tubes:Brass
orNickel
1st ValveSaddle/
Trigger?Y or N
3rd SlideRing:Top or
Bottom;Solid
orAdjustable
Alterations AnecdotalComments
3350 Bb ML Lacquer WallyGomulka 11/19/06 S Benge
The valve section was put onto aBesson bell; Gordon Stump has
the original Chicago bell.
Info supplied by Gordon Stump.The horn was bought from EB
at the Morse Ave. location.