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    Jim KelsoAug 20 2005, 07:33

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    Some time ago I said I would do a sequence on the paperweight moth. Here it is. I prefer to have

    questions asked as I go along as it seems less awkward than having to go back, but if you come in late

    and have a question, that's fine too. I mainly want to get the info out, not to make it easier for me.

    Here's the whole paper weight and a close up. Wood is Vera.

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    And a closer shot of the moth. Metals are shakudo, copper and 22k gold.

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    Jim KelsoAug 20 2005, 08:00

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    The shakudo is from Phil Baldwin, Shining Wave Metals

    The long dimension is 2.75"(70mm). Thickness is .09"(2.3mm)

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    Jim KelsoAug 20 2005, 08:04

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    Here I'm carving the wing contours with a large carbide burr. I hold the piece with a jeweler's ring clamp

    while I'm carving.

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    QUOTE(Jim Kelso @ Aug 21 2005, 05:33 AM)

    Some time ago I said I would do a sequence on the paperweight moth. Here it is. I prefer to have

    i k d I l i l k d h h i b k b if i l

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    Monster burr and a surprise. I would think that it would chatter and be difficult to control. What speed and

    what grinder do you use it in? I am really happy to see the tutorial Jim, thanks.

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    Mike there are pins that are under the gold triangles on the wings. You'll see this clearly later. The pins go

    into cavities in the wood. The cavities are seriously undercut so that epoxy filling them forms a plug,

    holding the pins. The pins are also roughed up to give more adhesion. The base is sand blasted with no

    finish.

    Don, I guess that burr is a little big, but I think it makes it easier to not create divots and flat spots.

    Chatter control is a matter of trial and error to find the sweet spot of rpm. Those big burrs are a real time

    saver and then I can spend whatever time I need to smooth and contour with the other tools. For those

    burrs I use the biggest Foredom handpiece(#30? I think) and pretty low rpm, I would guess around 5K.

    Part of this method involves having a solid holding device that helps prevent grabbing and also having the

    direction of the burr pulling away from the holder and not into it. This helps prevent grabbing too. I'll try

    to get a photo of this. The holder also keeps your fingers at a distance and away from heat build-up.

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    Hi Jim,

    Great tutorial. You give us information as well as inspiration. Thank you. Have you ever tried a product

    called "Jet Sett"? I bought some about six months ago but haven't had a chance to try it out.

    Dick

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    Hi Dick. I haven't seen that. Maybe you could try it and give us a run-down under the thread "how do you

    hold your carving" in Tools and Technical.

    Moving along on the moth, the next step was to introduce the spots, which are rather like soldered bulls'

    eye sections of varying alloys. You can see in the photo how I left "handles" on the bits as I sawed and

    filed them until I was ready for the final fit. These handles made the sawing and filing a lot easier. Also

    shown here is the gold sheet that has been rough forged to shape for the head and antennae.

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    This shows one of the larger spots almost all sawn and fitted looking like a funny bird head with the

    "handles still attached. I wasn't ultra concerned about getting the tightest fit as I planned to forge the

    gaps shut after the soldering.

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    Here's the inlay in place pre-solder. The alloys are copper, gold, shakudo moving from out to in.

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    Showing the back post solder. I needed more than one heat to get the solder where I wanted it.

    I used an "easy" or "medium" plumb solder, not sure.

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    Beginning the carving of the flutes after finishing everything level. I used my usual burr, rubber abrasive,

    fiber wheel progression.

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    This shows the beginning of the engraving of the "hairy" wing parts. Not sure what these are correctly

    called. Any moth experts out there? As the engraving progresses, I use a fine abrasive(400 alum. oxide)

    sandblasting to cut the shine and give everything a flat finish. I find this a great aid to seeing th actual

    form of everything.

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    These inset gold triangles are functional as well as decorative. The pins go through the wings and hold the

    moth on the box along with the pin under the head.

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    Chasing the texture on the wings. I also used this tool to close up the last little gaps remaining between

    the spot alloys.

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    The final polish is achieved with a Japanese horse-hair brush(migaki-bake) and 800 grit silicon carbide powder in water. Traditionally

    this would be done with charcoal powder, but the s/c powder does a more than credible job. All hail Ford Hallam for introducing this

    adjusted technique to the western barbarians!

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    The last step is the alloy coloration. This is a subject calling for it's own full tutorial(Ford?)

    Basically the piece is boiled in a solution of rokusho(proprietary Japanese compound), copper sulphate and water. Shown below is a

    feather brooch during the bath.

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    Morning Jim,

    Thanks for the kudos, bit concerned about the amount of droop on your bristles though

    I might have a series of interesting tutorials to post at the end of September, and the photography will be much better than mine!

    We`ll keep you all in suspense until then.

    That pearl blasted finish really does make it easy to see the metal clearly, does`nt it? Thanks for the sequence of images showing your

    working method, I know it really helps to educate the non-metalbashers out there.

    cheers, Ford

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