Can We Mine JISCMail Lists? Can We Talk About MailMine?
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OR 2012: Working With Text Workshop
Can We Mine JISCMail Lists? Can We Talk About MailMine?
Brian KellyUKOLNUniversity of BathBATH, UK
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
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The Context
Mailing lists:• Value role to play in scholarly, research and
development work over several decades• Still used - actively in some areas – but not
‘fashionable’• Opportunity for mining mailing list archives in
order to understand: Our history Roles played in development work How mailing lists have been / are being used …
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Use case: Provide evidence of UKOLN’s involvement in development of Web standards since late 1990s.
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
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Markmail
Work in Other Areas: Markmail
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
www.ukoln.ac.uk
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
www.ukoln.ac.uk
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
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Active in early years. What happened next?
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What Happened Later?
Peer-reviewed papers published at W4A conference & elsewhere from 2004
Quality of papers known from citations, etc.
But what of discussions on UK mailing lists between 1998-2004 (and beyond)?
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Two most highly ranked papers at W4A conferences, according to Microsoft Academic Search.
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
www.ukoln.ac.uk
What of the UK HE Sector?
Mailbase service:• Funded from 1989-2001• Hosted at Newcastle University• Home-grown software• Archives no longer available online
JISCMail service:• Funded from 2001• Provided by RAL/CCRC/STFC/JISC Advance • Now managed by JISC Advance• Uses LSoft’s LISTSERV software• Dated software; not native Web application; no
APIs; …
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
www.ukoln.ac.uk
Risk of Losing Our Digital Record
Wish to:• Understand our digital communications hosted on key
mailing list provider• Identify ways of maintaining such understandings
Challenges:• Limitations of software• Concerns over AUP, privacy, legal issues, …• Available resources
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Can I demonstrate Mark’s MailMine software?Will Scottish law mean he shouldn’t set foot north of the border?
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
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JISCMail search
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Technical barriers to processing JISCMail content (not covered further)
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Legal & Ethical Issues
Disclosure: I was a member of the JISCMail Advisory Group in May 2001 when this AUP was agreed!
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See https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/acceptableuse.html
Legal barriers in processing JISCMail content
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A Way Forward?
Is there a way forward?
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Case Study (1)
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LIS-Elib-Managers:• Closed list, used by managers
of large-scale national digital library programme
Preparing for Change:• Discussions with list owners• Audit of contributors,
discussions & contact with significant contributors
• One post of personal nature deleted
Making Changes
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Case Study (2)
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List now open up after announcement of change of policy sent to list (most bounced!)Suggested approach for others:
• Audit archive in order to identify the numbers of people who have posted messages & numbers of messages that have been posted.
• Identify the reasons why the list was set up as a closed list.• Gain an understanding of possible risks in opening up access to list
archives.• Formulate a policy decision with key stakeholders.• Communicate the policy and gathering feedback.• Analyse the feedback and review changes to the proposed policy.• Implementing the policy.
See Case Study: Opening Access to a Closed and Unused Mailing List <http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/ >
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
www.ukoln.ac.uk
What Do We Want?
Some questions:• Do we want to be able to mine the text of scholarly
mailing lists?• If so, who wants to do this and what do they want? • Should we simply make use of US lists top avoid
UK technical & legal silos?
If there is a need and a community:• How do we address the legal and ethical issues?• What technical approaches should we take?
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Note comment on UK Web Focus blog from previous JISCMail director:“The difference between MarkMail & Google for us here at JISCMail, is that to be in the free version of Markmail we have to give them the content for them to index whereas Google, & other search engines, come & index us. This difference gives rise to issues around ownership & management of live lists which is why we are not in MarkMail”
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What Next for the Prototype?
MailMine prototype 16
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A centre of expertise in digital information management
www.ukoln.ac.uk
What Next for the Prototype?
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Questions
Any questions?
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